This and That: 2022 Japan Open, Finlandia Trophy (Kaori Sakamoto, Shoma Uno, Loena Hendrickx)
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- This week, Kaori Sakamoto, Jason Brown, Shoma Uno, Loena Hendrickx, Mariah Bell and Daniel Grassl highlighted the field at the 2022 Japan Open. Junhwan Cha and Yelim Kim delivered stunning performances at the 2022 Finlandia Trophy. Plus, we go into the latest crazy developments on Ice Age and in ice dance politics on a must-see edition of 'This and That'.
This and That: 2022 Japan Open, Finlandia Trophy (Kaori Sakamoto, Shoma Uno, Loena Hendrickx)
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Timestamps:
0:57 Japan Open
- 1:17 Kaori Sakamoto
- 7:17 Loena Hendrix
- 12:34 Mariah Bell
- 15:33 Jason Brown
- 16:55 Mirai Nigasu
- 17:30 Bradie Tannell
- 18:40 Rika Kirira
- 18:53 Wakaba Huguchi taking the season off
- 19:40 back to Rika
- 22:21 Yuma Kagiyama withdrew. Kao Miura step in
- 23:54 Shoma Uno
- 27:59 IliaMalilin
- 29:25 Daniel Grassl
- 30:03 back to Ilia
- 34:22 Jason Brown
39:06 Finlandia Women
- 39:07 Lindsey Thorngren
- 49:39 Yelim Kim
- 52:06 Anastaslia Gubanova
(52:50 Side conversation on Alina Zagitova, Anna Shcherbakova
55:05 Ice Age/Evgenia Medvedeva)
- 1:02:14 back to Gubanova
- 1:03:47 potential of Japan vs Korea this season
(1:04:36 Marie France vs Marina Zoueva
1:05:31 4 Marina’s team skating to Denis Ten’s CS )
1:10:03 Finlandia Dance
- 1:10:09 Green/Parson
- 1:12:06 Hawayek/Baker
- 1:13:22 Fournier Beaudry/Soerensen
You are a national treasure- thanks so much!
Thank you!
Thanks for the time stamps. They are very helpful and I look for them. ❤️
Thank you very much!
omg thank you sooooo much
Kaori’s new hair makes her look mature but still young and I’m also obsessed with the whole new style
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I just love Shoma new program so beautiful ❤ after watching this program I cant find other programs with a level of sophistication and originality maybe Jun-ham Cha and Deniss Vasiljevs 😅.
Watching Johnathon describe Yelim's SP made my heart full, and I agree with him. Yelim's short program is everything, as well as Shoma's LP, and it made me appreciate figure skating again on another level.
Both programs made my heart full.
Just learned recently that Yelim has gone through so much over the years and she persevered! She's full of GRIT and grace, far from boring.
What has Yelim gone through? Now you have me curious.
@@zackwilson8701 Ever since she started fs in 2010 she had many ups and downs. She's always been a solid skater since her novice years but an injury prevented her from competing at junior worlds then she returned with a stronger program the next season but was never given high PCS and ended up not making the cut for worlds while You Young and Lim Eunsoo gained momentum. Long story short, she just kept coming back and showed better consistency and I think we're starting to see the results of the hard work she put in over the years.
She was the person ISU make an example for being late for a doping test despite full knowledge russia openly dopes.
Shomo has ALWAYS been sophisticated. His step sequences have always left everyone in the dust. He's properly trained and motivated and it's wonderful.
I love Kaori and her makeover. I will be attending SA in two weeks and fully expect her to win there. I last saw her live in 2017 at her first SA with her Amelie program. So nice to see her mature and progress in her career.
Same! We must both live on the east coast. ;)
Yay! Thank you Dave and Jonathan, looking forward to watching!
I can't help but feel that Bradie not getting a proper diagnosis AND rejecting exploratory surgery when it was a great time for her to get it done is going to keep her from ever returning to a competition.
Sad when clearly someone wants to compete but I blame the grown folks around her
@@rajs7876 Bradie is 24 years old. While I have no idea the dynamics of her relationships to others, she has made bold independent moves far from family for a few years now on her own. I don't have faith in her coaches but let's not infantilize a grown women either.
Can’t wait for Skate America! Will be my first time watching in person.
Amazing! Enjoy.
Lucky you, enjoy!
When Jonathan was gushing about Yelim's short (which I also love), it made me think about how I hope he sees this new film TAR coming out since music plays such a big part!
Carolina Kostner once skated to a counter tenor. It was fab. Maybe she only performed it once?
"when they pantomimed the marakas"... LMAO Jonathan. I literally spit out my drink laughing. Thanks TSL!
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Does anyone else ever notice that there's these twins in pink jackets in front row that seem to be at every competition?They're so lucky, I'm quite jealous!
I’ve been to the same competitions as them a couple times, this year at finlandia I sat close to them. I actually think they are just sisters not twins, but they are lucky indeed😆
Yes, I love seeing them!
On an Elvis program: Josefin Taljegard at the Findlandia had the best interpretation of the Elvis theme I have seen in a long time. Not a refined skate style but is was full of spirit, energy and fun you would want. That girl could move!
The crowd loved it. I was doing my best not to look up at her costume.
Thanks guys. Interesting conversation.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dave, I am with you for Midnight Blue colour costume for Shoma.
Dark shades of blue are my favorite color on Shoma. He looks great in red as well.
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I want to root for Yelim so much but the millions of Korean domestic competitions make it so difficult 😭
yes!!! we say it every year that the numerous domestic competitions wear out the korean skaters by the time they get to even nationals, let alone 4CC and Worlds!!! yelim and young always show so much promise during the gp but are so worn out by worlds. And KoreanFed never seems to learn!!!!
Yelim's short program music is an encore piece written for the violinist, Hilary Hahn, and it is glorious. Same composer as a lot of other programs (Max Richter).
After watching the Japanese men it was extra difficult to watch Ilia’s program…
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I'm just going by a little bit of Instagram information here, but it looks to me like Mariah moved to Texas and took a job as an assistant coach. I'm going to assume that if she's working, and not in the Irvine rink, then she's not going to compete. I don't have any definite information, but that's my take.
Jonathan is on the wrong side of my screen and it isn’t working for me……
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Happy Sunday. 🎉great content 😅its is going to be a really interesting 🧐 season
Thank you! You too!
The second you mentioned Adam's Balenciaga jacket, I said "new money" to myself before you got the words out Dave!
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It’s Sunday. That means cold Blue Moon craft brew, nachos, and TSL. Maybe a jet ski ride down the river after dinner.
You're the wrong way round! Totally freaking me out lol!!!
he logged in first!
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That and the psychedelic opening montage...
Me too! 🤣🤣🤣
I love the program of Shoma.
It’s so hard to watch Illa after Shoma’s program.
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Shoma Uno is the best out there. I'm proud of what Stephane Lambiel has done with him thus far.
I think there needs to be more discussion on what a misfire Ilia’s program truly is. He’s not skating with any emotional connection to the music. It’s clear he’s too young and inexperienced to be able to interpret the emotions of a teenage drug addict with crippling depression grieving her dead father, giving up on life, and asking God to die. Euphoria also has more party music about youth and having fun that he could have chosen that would have suited him better like Kevin Aymoz did. His skating is reminding me a lot of a younger Trusova right now. I really like Ilia, but someone really needs to fix his packaging.
Little late to this, enjoying as always! Can we please just have a blanket ban on cartwheels? The few and far between good ones are not worth suffering the terrible ones 😭. If you want to watch gymnastics, go watch it!
Yelim Kim's two programs are from David Wilson. without even check, I saw David Wilson spark in the choreo. so there you go. I think Yelim's arm and finger interpretation of music has improved that's why she is not as boring as before. The emotional reaction Johnathon has is a result of typical David Wilson choreo wizardry. Mastering quad lutz does not automatically equals bad artistry. Jason Brown have already got all the artistry score in the world, usually the highest PCS in a competition despite his all triple jump program, usually the highest GOE, still he stalks his 3A yet Ilia puts a bracket in front of his 4A. What more artistry score points can judges gift Jason Brown. Also ask Jason Brown himself, will he feel unfair if an all double jump artistic skater get higher artistry score than an all triple skaters. Jason Brown has already been gifted every opportunities there is competitively. he can further develop his artistry in ice shows. I would also argue is Jason Brown's artistry that special? Do other artistic skaters ever get the entitled artistry score as Jason Brown? TSL likes skaters with a good posture. I do too, however good posture is only a part of PCS. About Gubanova, yes her short program added car crash sound effect, however her interpretation is really appropriate (not like other similar sound effect program at all). her spins matched the car crash sound effect and her final facial acting matched the "sigh" sound effect perfectly. Great example how facial expression/acting matched the mood of music. Gubanova is an innovative artistic skater, yet not appreciated by ISU. I hope she will have many more competitions in the future.
Here is the thing about Lindsay:
She has elite dead eyes. When she was warming up, she was skating around and looking out and it hit me: she is Rebecca Bross in 2011.
Really, her movement and extension is excellent. She just needs to pick up the speed. All of her jumps were under rotated and the judges here picked them all apart. Yes, she is taller and needs time to adjust to this but I imagine Yelim had to figure this out as well?
She looked REALLY nervous when she was on the ice. USFSA needs to get behind this girl.
Also, her coach needs better foundation if she wants to fool all of us into thinking she has no bags under her eyes. Just embrace being from Russia already! I wonder if Julia and Maggie Haney hang out together. I’d like to be at that wine haul.
I don't know what it is about JL Baker, but when he's on the ice - you cannot not watch him.
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Dave, you skate to Schindler's List if you want to! You obviously have a passion for it and I think it suits your skating style. I wish more skaters would fight for the music they love. Coaches are often wrong and they admit it when they see the skater's commitment to the music. ☺️
Yep Dave. And you do the grey ombre thing so well. Play Schindlers for all its worth. Drama. Trauma. Angst. Pain. Suffering.
I appreciate that Dave has so much intel from behind the scenes with the politics. Respect 🫡
18:45 it was already supposed to be Rika!
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If you want to skate to something similar to Schindler's List, check out the second movement of Barber Violin Concerto.
Olga Glinka was only allowed to be there for Gubanova’s team.
It’ll be interesting to see who shows up at the Grand Prix events for coaches.
I agree with Dave about the Shoma versus Ilia thing, and Ilia being a big challenger. It doesn't matter that Shoma is so much better and sophisticated, and that Ilia's skating skills are what they are. Japan Open may be a not-real competition, but even so, based on the scoring alone, you can see that Ilia is being set up as the big competitor for Shoma. Shoma was asked 1 million questions about Ilia, and Ilia and Shoma basically got the same score in the free skate. This is going to be a narrative this season.
Maybe this is why Shoma was talking about iproving jumps , he also mentioned that id does not matter if you have the rest of components if the jumps are not the top ones, base on scores, he is not wrong , that is why he and Stephan are also focuss on the jumps and the components skills. But Illia is still young in terms of experience in the senior mistakes can be made so anything is in the game here.
I like a narrative
@@fotomagrol He should skate clean. Focus on that and maybe 5 quads but comfortable ones. Ilia makes me.sleepy
Shoma is on his own level. Unless he crashes and burns (as we know he can) there's no one out there better than him right now IMHO.
@@fotomagrol Yeah, obviously, anything can happen, for sure, especially with this being Ilia's first full senior season and his youth and inexperience, but it was interesting seeing the narrative that was very clearly being set up. Coverage of Japan Open presented the "competition" as a head to head between Shoma and Ilia, constantly creating anticipation about their head to head throughout the event and having them skate back to back as the final two skaters to skate to build that hype, even though there were four other competitors in the men's event. This was what 2022 Japan Open was about, and it was very interesting to see the event being used to set up the Shoma versus Ilia narrative.
Jonathan describing Yelim's SP is my moment of the week :D
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Ye-Lim's Ina Bauer in her SP was my moment of the week.
I rather watch Alina over others from her camp. People like to criticize her a lot, but, to be able to cope with so much stress at the age of 15 and to deliver with such high level of performance, seriously it is re-mar-ka-ble! The time after the Olympics were not at all easy for her and she still managed to become world champion in a competitive field while Evgenias competition at her prime were a lot of skaters at the end of their careers like Mao, Carolina, Grace, Ashley...
Some skaters still try to this day to copy Alina. Her spins where beautiful and no other skater to date is able to do her final illusion combination spin so nicely as she does.
Alina is not dumb, she is just not interested in cheap drama to get attention. People in Japan just love and respect her a lot and that's also not easy to accomplish as well.
Morisi the lethargic sloth.
And somehow he gets the score :-/
Israel this America that I think Azerbaijan deserves the most outside of Russia to be banned based on their current geopolitical actions, why haven’t the Russian apologists latched onto that argument instead of just bleating about the US
Kaitlyn and Jean-Luc were the most down to earth and relaxed couple in the arena. I think it’s because they somehow knew Laurence + Nikolaj were going to win?
I do not know why though. Yes, Laurance’s dress is STUNNING. I couldn’t stop looking at her and wondering why they couldn’t stop the competition and just give her the gold right then and there.
But, there was nothing interesting about the Danes turned Canadians program. The foot work was not that difficult. I also can’t with the faces from Nikolaj. Can we not with the masculine projecting?
I get it: all the teams in Montreal make friends and they go on runs to Whole Foods together and cook an organic chicken on Sunday nights while sharing a bottle of biodynamic Chenin Blanc, and snuggle each other.
Wouldn’t you?
I would just fire MF and Patrice and go to Marina. Even if I had to fly to Florida.
As if Hawayek/Baker did anything new or interesting either lol
@@user-gg9uu9kx9w I didn’t talk about their programs yet. I was talking about how they were just enjoying themselves in the arena.
Do not for minute think that JL and Kaitlyn’s costume will not be expressed! 😎
How are you guys accessing all the competitions?
Kaori Time Snaps ✨
1:13 - Kaori’s improvements on jumps, Marie- France LP
3:31 - Kaori’s Rohene program, becoming a performer, growth as a skater
1:04:12 - Kaori VS Yelim
1:13:45- Brief Mention of Kaori & Marie-France
1:26:40 - Kaori & Shoma, Dave’s moment of the week
Good comparison w Kao and Max. I thought Beauty and the Beast was a good choice for him, very much Mura from his 2017 SA exhibition to "Evermore..""Manly" program..no finesse..Not giving up on Kazuki..he did better in his Kinki FS..
I think bradie is in new custom skates- might be helping w the old injury time will tell
Yeah..Brian making the trip..🥸
Excited to see how the GP series play out… can we have the tsl fantasy league back for this season!?!? :)
“Azeri” is NOT a correct term as Jonathan rightly inquired, it is somewhat rude and diminishing.
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I count on you for the recap Dave and Jonathan. I have been unable to locate skating except in brief you tube clips. Is peacock not going to broadcast skating this year. They were awful but better than nothing.
I’ve been finding everything on CZcams. I think peacock will have better coverage for the Grand Prix
@@JohnnyOpera1 According to people who say they have contacted customer service at peacock, and according to what we've already experienced this season, peacock will not be keeping competitions on video on demand. You have to watch it while it's streaming, or you won't get to see it, unless you have a VPN and watch it on youtube.
Ice dance may not be the medium to tackle climate change -- that's what synchro is for :D
I LOVED Yelim's SP! So gracious and elegant. And her jumps seem so effortless (that combo!).
I also enjoyed Gubanova's FP, it just was a lot of fun but I am partial because I love Bollywood music. Her jumps feel more tight and difficult for her compared to Loena or Yelim.
Generally I am rooting for Loena, Kaori and Yelim. Sadly Wakaba will skip this season.
Is Peacock Premium enough to watch Skate America this wknd in the US? Or do I need "Premium Plus?" How confusing. Is Premium only streaming, and no on-demand (watch later) this year? I also watch through cable/the Olympic Channel, but they don't show all events and often have annoying commentary.
I don't think there's any difference between Premium or Premium Plus for figure skating. It's no on-demand either way. For Skate America, USA, NBC, and E! networks are showing pretty much the entire event on television. It's on USA Friday and Saturday night, NBC Saturday afternoon, and E! on Sunday afternoon. Unfortunately, it looks like the other GP events are going to get much less television coverage.
I think Gracie is looking seriously legit. Crazy!!!
Team Japan for JO was always Rika over Wakaba
Thank you
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who hates Illias Programs and skating skills
11:20 "fake Polish girl": Jekatierina Kurakowa is no fake! She has genuinely emigrated to Poland, speaks Polish very well and has a Polish life partner. Her training has been in Canada and Italy; she had to leave the Cricket Club for the same reason as Zhenya Medvedeva: Canada's draconian closure of borders to foreigners during the whole Covid pandemic.
Thank you for the info. Now I like her even more~
Russian media has been so unkind to you David for exposing the Kamila Valieva drug scandal. They are truly undermining the sport by protecting Eteri and contributing to its slow demise!
They allow an Eteri to come into existence
I find them hilarious. Their un-kindness has become a badge of honor for David. He lives rent free in their laptops!
@@pjeffries301 Exactly!
The way Yelim Kim moves her head and uses her hands...it's so exquisite! I haven't seen another skater with that special quality since Michelle Kwan.
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yelim's head and hands movement have improved but still has lots of room to improve. I still cannot find a Korean skater that has the expressiveness of Yuna's upper-body dance (Eunsoo had the potential, but she had lots of hardship in her career..). The little cat girl (korean junior skater) may have some potential in this regards.
Great episode. I love Kaori, but I'm not loving the LP yet. Also I feel like Jonathan doesn't fully appreciate Butyrskaya 😭
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Every time I hear that name, I can hear that warped record of Otonal which she used for 22 seasons
Imagine a skating program about child labour...
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@EE DR Bring it back? The harsh truth is that child labour is fundamental to figure skating. From sexual, physical, and mental abuse, FS runs on millions of disposable young kids with Olympic dreams. I would love to see the faces of the ISU/Feds if the skaters fought back and unionized. It is high time these children are compensated for their often unpaid/underpaid labour, not just financially but mentally/physically etc. Thank you for leaving that comment bc otherwise, I would not feel the need to explain my full position.
In the USA female figure skating the door is open to who ever comes with the best program and delivers it at the main event. Mariah Bell has an oportunity, we just need from her to take it and win it.
I am loving Kaori Sakamoto programs , I think she can have an amazing years with those programs.
Shoma is on a great start and road, he is improving and bouth programs are really great for him.
And about Shoma grey costume, it was supoused to be the Purple costume, but it did not work out with it, he mentioned he did not feel free enough to do all the movements in that costume, that is why he is using the grey for competitions and the purple maybe can be used at an exhibition. I hope Mathew can modify the purple or do another costume in blue please. The grey is gorgeous but I also prefer blue.
I have a feeling this season is going to be Kaori vs Yelim vs Mai Mihara. Loena and a couple others will be in the mix too, but I just think Kaori will continue to be a dominate force, and Yelim and Mai have great programs and have looked solid over the summer/early season competitions which should give them great momentum going into the grand prix season.
I think you need to give Loena more respect. She has scored twice early in the season over 130! But all these skaters really are not of the level of the Russians, Osmond, Mao Asada, Yuna Kim, Kaori might as the programs continue to grow and her tech improves.
@@skaterboy-cz9wj I did say Loena will be in the mix and I do believe that. I am a fan of her as well. I am not much of a fan of most of the Russian skaters (well not the currently competitive ones anyway). Mao and Yuna will always be two of the greatest of all-time for a reason and I do agree that there isn't really a Mao or Yuna right now, but there are several skaters who are certainly worth watching despite that.
Yeah, I have a feeling that Mai will be someone to reckon with this season. Also, Rino Matsuike, if she is healthy. Haein, if she can get everything together is another contender. Loena has a lot more serious competition than I think some people realize.
I always felt like Celine matched her inner self the best. That made it my favorite program of hers. Her with Adam felt like an intriguing idea, but I felt like I was silently willing her with gritted teeth to be "That Bitch" during Britney. I often realized I was almost unconsciously, in my chair, subtly jutting out my hip and flipping my imaginary high ponytail like I was trying to force Mariah to feel Britney's spirit.
It was like watching a power bottom try to act like a top in weekly live p0rn competitions.
Do you have any infos on Mariah's departure from California and Rafael? It seems strange to me that the national champion leaving her coach has not gotten more interest.
She is done competing. Why is it surprising?
I don’t understand why Greene & Parson’s went with the White’s when they weren’t even traveling with them - even if this is a Challenger. Greg Z looked like he was passing a kidney stone in the kiss and cry area for both teams. Not a good look.
If Patrice is traveling and pretending to be present, there needs to be Tanith there to counter the politics with that disaster of a free dance.
It felt like Tim Goebel and Alyssa Czisny were paired up to do their greatest hits with this program.
Greene/Parsons are way better than this. The most disappointing thing was not the content for me oddly. It was the lack of speed first and foremost.
Greg has been coaching the longest out of the three coaches.
@@TheSkatingLesson Let this be on the record the climate change Czech program beat this program. Not a good start to the season.
Who has more PCS and skating skills, Ilia or Nathan? That's the argument of the Fanyus. Nathan has the jumps, Yuzuru has the PCS and skating skills.
Nathan, and it isn’t even close, I can’t stand Nathan and his 10 bitter middle aged fans but Ilia makes him look like Patrick Chan
When Obama started talking in the arena during the Czech free dance, my partner said politely to me that he will not be attending the women’s free program after the ice dance.
He was literally one Al Gore quote from getting up right then and there. 😂
You know, I'm a bit disinterested in ice dance this season, but the Azeri team politics battle might get me invested!
Is Karen Chen retired? Sorry I don't follow the US team
She's going to school at the moment and isn't competing, but as far as I know, has not officially retired.
Maybe not in Russia…..
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As someone who always watched Kaori from head to toe, i have to say that the hair can be a bit distracting in some parts of the program. Am still not sold on her free skate but am glad that her jumps have greatly improved.
shoma is good when he's on. but out of whack when wild.
Can we talk about what a disaster the women’s free program was? Literally everyone fell except the top 3 podium.
There was an area of the ice that everyone fell on which was interesting to me.
Once again, I’m disturbed at the derogatory way you discuss minors and young people in figure skating. From Ilia Malinin to Isabeau Levito to Lindsay Thorngren and Alexandra Trusova, you seem to have hurtful and snarky comments for everyone rather than true constructive criticism. I had hoped you would raise the quality of your discussions, but it appears that is never going to happen. Your approach to reporting is not conducive to growing skating as an international sport. It’s disappointing to witness two grown men taking this approach.
Thanks for watching
I’ll just leave this here. Quoted from your video “Why is that boy doing a cartwheel?” “That is the ugliest - I am sorry - he is a wonderful athlete. That is the ugliest cartwheel. My nephew, if I plied him with vodka could do a prettier one, alright. He’s got a gay uncle. I don’t think Ilia has anyone gay in his life and it shows”.
As a parent, this disturbs me, and the ISU should be concerned by your approach too.
@@ShadowSparkNews Sir Shadowspark, it's a cartwheel. Sorry you didn't like the cartwheel criticism. :(
@RocketCandyColored My comment is about the overall inappropriate tone of the discussion in these videos. Their dislike of the cartwheel is absolutely fine, it’s how they speak about a 17 year old is the issue.
@@ShadowSparkNews about Ilia's cartwheel, I just wanna add that Ilia actually intentionally changed his chsq's elements from US classic, added the cartwheel and modified a couple of other elements to make it more exciting. it is his effort to improve his artistry, which many of Ilia's fans (who do watch his program) all detected that. Yes Ilia's cartwheel in this outing is not as stretched. However this chsq is after he landed 5 quads (which is a first for Ilia) and after another difficult choreo jump, All these are difficult to execute, (actually took much more effort than an eye-pleasing inna bauer or spiral which many artistic skaters do for chsq). However these moves fit Ilia's music choice, a 17 year old interprets euphoria. Many true figure skating fans all feel that Ilia's artistry is developing at very fast speed. Of course Dave lease will never detect all these effort and potential of Ilia's skating. Dave lease always give biased, superficial, snarky comments about skaters he does not care regardless the skaters' actually skating. Thus Dave lease's analysis about skaters' actually skating is not professional. But his gossip is sometimes well-informed due to his connection in figure skating community
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Who are you two? Are you former Skaters or what? 🤔🤔
The one on the right has a nephew whose uncle is gay. The another can sing opera and make intense facial expressions while talking. Ample reason to discuss figure skating these days.
@@user-pz5yx4pb3e You are cracking me up!! 😂🤣😂🤣 Do you like these two gentlemen? Do you watch their videos? Would love to hear back from you some more!! Take care and Thanks for your response. 😁🤗😊
@@janetjohnson7279 Just wanna give them some taste of their own medicine. Yes, i watch them regularly. David is quite knowledgeable guy, actually, but people like to see him a buffoon and sometimes he's unable to resist the temptation.
@@user-pz5yx4pb3e You are so funny! Please tell me more!!! 😁
Is that how they talk about other people??
nothing about Sakamoto and how many kg did she gain over the summer? because apart the skating this is really starring