I really like that that this RV manufacturer put carpet in the bedroom, I really n3ed the warmth of that carpet on. My feet👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Very nice design and Layout 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Great Work Josh 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Owning a 365, the wall light in the garage has to be my favorite addition to this series. Such a simple, yet needed thing. We ended up putting a battery light on the bottom of the bunk. Also the 3 season wall! The expanded solar package was another MUST that I'm glad they did with those giant 12V fridges. I like the outside cooker. I wish ours had that. Road mode... at storage, we cannot deploy the stable steps for the main door. Our solution for access in storage for cleaning etc is to enter via the garage and open the main slide with the one-control app. Problem solved. Regarding the auto-leveling, ours is prepped. Would it be useful? Yeah! But if the cost of adding the kit increased the cost of the camper by a similar amount, I'll gladly save the money. I was going to add it, but the cost was 1/2 again more than we were expecting. Even with DIY install. If only we could convince them on the 3rd air argument. And get them to double the grey tank size under the shower. We REALLY wanted the 345, but they took FOREVER to get from the website to the dealer lots. Ended up being offered a really solid deal on the 365 and went with that instead.
Love seeing what owners think of various units. It’s great to see how you see these updates Appreciate the feedback on the leveling system. Often wondered how owners actually thought about it
Love the price point and anytime there is a 3 season garage wall vs. the tent screen wall. Got to get rid of the carpet in the slide at least. Oh, and no stinkbugs. Love the exterior before and after shots. Thanks Nerd!
Love the breakfast bar with stools. That’s perfect alternative for the table in the garage. I wish the loft had a little window to make it feel less like a coffin.
Really impressed by the living space. I love the fireplaces. Wouldn't have one without it. It IS much nicer than most toy haulers. They're getting there .. slowly but surely.
We love the size of the kitchen and I like the key hooks when you come in the door. We had to add one to our TT. Love how Cherokee give you an ice maker.
Seeing it's a Toy Hauler I really understand not having the auto level by default. I think if you are always taking out your toys (if you are always bringing toys) you may can not really do auto-leveling until they are out, because you will need to adjust again after they are out. All that being said I would just add it knowing how I will the majority of the time use it.
We own a 2023 345pack14.5. These are the things we'd change. 1. Put a full stereo back in with bluetooth as an option. Bluetooth only is fine when you have signal and can stream. For boondocking out in the woods, sometimes we just want radio. 2. With the Everchill refrigerator, there needs to be an actual on/off switch. Even though you can turn the fridge off, if you disconnect the batteries and then re-connect, the fridge turns itself back on. 3. Add a flip-up cabinet extension for more counter space while cooking. 4. there needs to be wireless charging or plugins up by the bed. And one side doesn't even get a shelf to place stuff. All in all, we do like the camper though.
Not all W/D units actually dump into the grey tank. Many actually just directly dump to the outside rather than flowing into a holding tank. It's pretty common
Then again I never understand what the rv engineers are thinking ..my “Thor” quantum called mine ( cig lighter) in a class c, it was in a cabinet above my head in bed , it could hardly be seen or be used easily.. made no sense. Oh well…. Your idea makes more sense lol .. this time 🤣🤣🤣 jkjkjk ..
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would also like to see a video on this. Having owned many RVs, I’m not sure why the industry came out with these. The conventional ones recover in like 5 minutes. Less with AC and propane at the same time. Maybe some people put on those fancy schmancy shower heads and take long showers while parked and hooked to city water? Honestly not sure. We have been on hookups less than 10 nights over the last 15 years. 😂
Thanks for the lookee-see! I do like the dual exterior shots helps visualize the parked/set-up RV. Wolf-Pack putting the ladder and steps in for the stink-bug chamber and the patio respectively is a nice touch. Interesting you didn't mention the lack of roof access on this model. or is that because toy-haulers don't normally carry roof access? Thanks again!
Most toy haulers have ladders. This is setup for a telescopic I try not to sound like a broken record even more than I already do so sometimes I’ll look for something else to discuss
As of now I've been thinking about upgrading to a fifth wheel, I have always been the travel trailer guy but I find the 5th wheels more interesting and has the space a good deal with just the right the model well that's a goal!
I’m am trying to find the best made looking toy hauler it’s so hard to find one that offers: Azdel, plywood flooring and roofing, great warranty, wheels, thats under 14K pnds 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I definitely use all the entertainment i can get, I need my oak island, Bigfoot , UFO STUFF, being the nerd that I am . Got to have all the installed!!!
I really love this layout and have been thinking about making the switch to a toy hauler after buying a RZR. I really like the idea of auto level but it is also a pain on rough terrain and steep slopes. The systems don't seem to handle it well if the front gets too low etc from my experience. I am curious, when you say prepped for AL, is all the wiring there as well? Just need to add the module and jacks?
Yes, and no. When used as intended with something loaded in the back, the pin weight is dramatically reduced. We tow our similarly sized 365 with a 1-ton SRW and it does fine. Would we rather have a dually for peace of mind? Oh yeah. Have I ever felt unsafe with our SRW? No. I would say 1-ton required, dually recommended.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 Don't know you SRW payload but my 2021 Ram 3500 SRW only has a payload of 3750 lbs. because of OEM options I guess (50 gallon tank, 5th wheel hitch, dual alternators, Cummings etc.) So safely using at max load or not I could only put myself, the wife and a glass of water in the truck before I was going over payload. Just that length alone scares me. But everyone's comfort level is a different bird.😳
@@unclelala4216 Totally understand. Ours is 3500lbs. With the garage empty and just me in the truck, we are already over weight on the CAT scale. However, with our can-am loaded, cooler and grill in the bed, hitched up, with my wife and I our truck, ready for a trip, we are under GVWR on the CAT scale. Don't get me wrong, if we stop of a big dinner we will be over.
Why the tiny main bathroom? I'd much prefer to see a walk through bathroom so that someone has room to turn around at least. I hate how they're always jammed into the corner somewhere.
It's really not that small in person. I'm 6'6" 300lbs and it's perfectly fine for this price point. Even with the doors shut I'm not bumping into walls.
Hey Nerd, I am pleased to see manufacturers put more and more solar on their rigs. Which is great, but I also see the rush to change the fridges to 12V. Which seems to be encouraging people to be more "off Grid" But with the 12V fridge, solar is NOT going to be able to keep up with the demands. I don't know what is the rush to try to move from 2 way fridges to 12v. I'd love to know the percentage of campers that use "hook-ups" and how many "of US" that Dry camp. Just thinking out loud. I wouldn't want a NEWBIE, get out there thinking they're all ready to take on the world only to find out all their food went bad. Keep up the great work "NERD".
12v fridges cost less, hold more, and cool faster. Those are attractive benefits Without question they pull more juice. Presents a problem for off grid camping Some people swear the factory systems take care of their needs. Others find themselves battery dead quickly It’s all over the place and I don’t have all the info to fill in the blanks..
Hey Josh love watching your videos, I have a suggestion...could you do a quick video on what it takes to get your cooker to work on cooker hooker?I can't seem to get my portable bbq to work off of that thing...I'm sure I'm just missing something but some help would be greatly appreciated, again just a suggestion, I know your a very busy man, thanks!
The cooker hooker is for cooking on cookers specific for the cooker hooker. The gas at the propanus is regulated. More than likely, your grill has a regulator and you are using an adapter hose. Therefor, it’s double regulated and doesn’t have a enough flow to light or get hot.
I have two initial thoughts: * you have a portable bbq that requires a high pressure LP system not provided by those cooker hookers * you need to flip the little lever on the hookup itself to allow the gas to flow Third thought: are other lp appliances working properly? I wonder if there isn’t air in the lines that needs bled out You can do that bulky lighting the largest burner in the stove and burning it hard until it quits spitting
Nice RV "if" you have "toys" to haul, with decent living room space, porcelain toilets, MaxxAir vent fans and standard solar👍now please standardize 2 decent smart TVs and a ladder🙄
Owning a similarly sized 365, we wish it had a 3rd axle as well. However, it really gets along fine with 2 axles. It would be great for braking action. While the factory brakes have enough braking "Power", it would be nice to have two more tires worth of braking "traction". In other words, more tire contact means more deceleration ability before wheel lock-up. Stability wise, it really is quite stable. Even when overloaded, and towed with a SRW. 😉 It's important to remember that the wolfpack series is more of a budget option. Real dealer lot sale pricing is 20K+ less than competition that has nicer finishes, triple axle, 3rd air, bigger tanks, auto-leveling, etc. When we were shopping there were alot of "WTF" moments when comparing this series, until we started factoring price into the overall picture.
Missing roof access ladder? It is a shame that they have cut out the ladder to access the roof, especially since keeping up with your warranty requires you to inspect your roof every 6 months. Also to check your slide outs before leaving a tree covered parking spot which debris will get on top of the slides and must be removed before closing the slides. And yes I know at a cost you can have slide Toppers installed but still need a ladder to access the roof. Maybe a problem with China not being able to get roof ladders in! Yes you can purchase a telescoping ladder to attach to the mounting bracket they give you but seems a little flimsy and definitely not safe.
We had a custom mattress made. The factory one measures about 67x74. We were able to fit a 70x77x7. We could have gone with a 70x80 if we extended the wood under the mattress, but that would have ate into the walking space too much for our taste. You can’t go bigger than factory on a conventional mattress or bigger than 70w on a foam because of the wardrobe slide. However, the extra few inches of space and the deletion of the factory death wafer was well worth the $750 or so it cost.
The auto-leveling seems like a cash-grab. 3K plus tax and shipping for 4 electric jacks and a sensor? Plus install if you can’t do it yourself? Hard pass. I mean, if the kit was $1500, or it was hydraulic for $3k, then I would bite. Maybe someone with LCI can set me up with a discount code or something.
Wolf Pack has always been a more budget option and I think they're working to keep it that way but the past couple years have made it hard That being said.. I think almost everyone would just prefer to have the auto leveling on it. But it's a chunk of money for sure.
Great vid thx for the info
My pleasure!
I really like that that this RV manufacturer put carpet in the bedroom, I really n3ed the warmth of that carpet on. My feet👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Very nice design and Layout 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Great Work Josh 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
This is wonderful for toy hauling! Impressed by the big inverter system. Great for boondocks!
@@Erin-Thor I feel ya!
Owning a 365, the wall light in the garage has to be my favorite addition to this series. Such a simple, yet needed thing. We ended up putting a battery light on the bottom of the bunk. Also the 3 season wall! The expanded solar package was another MUST that I'm glad they did with those giant 12V fridges. I like the outside cooker. I wish ours had that.
Road mode... at storage, we cannot deploy the stable steps for the main door. Our solution for access in storage for cleaning etc is to enter via the garage and open the main slide with the one-control app. Problem solved.
Regarding the auto-leveling, ours is prepped. Would it be useful? Yeah! But if the cost of adding the kit increased the cost of the camper by a similar amount, I'll gladly save the money. I was going to add it, but the cost was 1/2 again more than we were expecting. Even with DIY install.
If only we could convince them on the 3rd air argument. And get them to double the grey tank size under the shower.
We REALLY wanted the 345, but they took FOREVER to get from the website to the dealer lots. Ended up being offered a really solid deal on the 365 and went with that instead.
Love seeing what owners think of various units. It’s great to see how you see these updates
Appreciate the feedback on the leveling system. Often wondered how owners actually thought about it
Love the price point and anytime there is a 3 season garage wall vs. the tent screen wall. Got to get rid of the carpet in the slide at least. Oh, and no stinkbugs. Love the exterior before and after shots. Thanks Nerd!
Wait.. NO stink bugs? 😂
Love the breakfast bar with stools. That’s perfect alternative for the table in the garage. I wish the loft had a little window to make it feel less like a coffin.
Loft windows are a good call. Ty!!
Really impressed by the living space. I love the fireplaces. Wouldn't have one without it. It IS much nicer than most toy haulers. They're getting there .. slowly but surely.
👍🏻
We love the size of the kitchen and I like the key hooks when you come in the door. We had to add one to our TT. Love how Cherokee give you an ice maker.
It’s the little things
The more I see these the more I like what they have to offer. Thanks Nerd.
My pleasure. Ty Chris!!
I have the 355. One of the things I wish was different was the steps up to the bedroom. Should be 4 steps not just three.
First time I've heard that. TY
Without a third AC in that garage this is a true toy hauler and not really a utility glamper.
The dual central A/C units do pump air into the garage btw
Love this unit also. Lots of room for storage and other stuff.
😊 I’m glad to hear it!
Auto leveling is great for old folks and single moms.
I'm liking it.
Ty David!!
Seeing it's a Toy Hauler I really understand not having the auto level by default. I think if you are always taking out your toys (if you are always bringing toys) you may can not really do auto-leveling until they are out, because you will need to adjust again after they are out. All that being said I would just add it knowing how I will the majority of the time use it.
Something that’s size and weight.. auto leveling does feel appropriate
We own a 2023 345pack14.5. These are the things we'd change. 1. Put a full stereo back in with bluetooth as an option. Bluetooth only is fine when you have signal and can stream. For boondocking out in the woods, sometimes we just want radio. 2. With the Everchill refrigerator, there needs to be an actual on/off switch. Even though you can turn the fridge off, if you disconnect the batteries and then re-connect, the fridge turns itself back on. 3. Add a flip-up cabinet extension for more counter space while cooking. 4. there needs to be wireless charging or plugins up by the bed. And one side doesn't even get a shelf to place stuff.
All in all, we do like the camper though.
Love I put from owners. Ty so much
Hi Josh! Happy New Year to you and yours!!
And the same to you!
Dearest Joshua,
We thank you for this video.
Love,
Vandersnick
So formal!
I appreciate you. And road mode. Kitchen is on the wrong side. Auto level is a must for this old guy.
Auto leveling is really starting to feel like something that SHOULD be there
Washer and dryer but with a 38 gal gray tank?
Not all W/D units actually dump into the grey tank. Many actually just directly dump to the outside rather than flowing into a holding tank.
It's pretty common
I heard that 12v cigarette light in the ceiling of bedroom is for a cpak machine for sleep, Aechmea..
Not up that high. You’d need them by the bed
Later figured out it’s for a monitor for the camera system
Then again I never understand what the rv engineers are thinking ..my “Thor” quantum called mine ( cig lighter) in a class c, it was in a cabinet above my head in bed , it could hardly be seen or be used easily.. made no sense. Oh well…. Your idea makes more sense lol .. this time 🤣🤣🤣 jkjkjk ..
Hey Josh,
How about a video about the pros and cons of a tankless water heater verses a traditional water heater?
Good idea. I need to beef up on them a little bit first
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would also like to see a video on this. Having owned many RVs, I’m not sure why the industry came out with these. The conventional ones recover in like 5 minutes. Less with AC and propane at the same time.
Maybe some people put on those fancy schmancy shower heads and take long showers while parked and hooked to city water? Honestly not sure. We have been on hookups less than 10 nights over the last 15 years. 😂
I went to your website. Inventory was very interesting great overall on presenting the models.
Ty for watching!!
Why is the generator area at the legs so low…? That’s kind of inconvenient for taking it off the beaten path.
It's a drop frame to fit both the gen there and still maintain a good sized front pass-thru
Good storage in bedroom. I'd have a tv in the garage for video gaming fun after the road toys fun. Wish it had a bigger shower.
The radius shower does feel a bit small in something this small
Thanks for the lookee-see! I do like the dual exterior shots helps visualize the parked/set-up RV. Wolf-Pack putting the ladder and steps in for the stink-bug chamber and the patio respectively is a nice touch. Interesting you didn't mention the lack of roof access on this model. or is that because toy-haulers don't normally carry roof access? Thanks again!
Most toy haulers have ladders. This is setup for a telescopic
I try not to sound like a broken record even more than I already do so sometimes I’ll look for something else to discuss
As of now I've been thinking about upgrading to a fifth wheel, I have always been the travel trailer guy but I find the 5th wheels more interesting and has the space a good deal with just the right the model well that's a goal!
They definitely tow better!!
I’m am trying to find the best made looking toy hauler it’s so hard to find one that offers: Azdel, plywood flooring and roofing, great warranty, wheels, thats under 14K pnds 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
🇺🇸 *Shocked by the BIG size of the kitchen* !! *LOVE the living room* !! #JoshTheRVNerdAtBishsRV 🇺🇸
I thought some of toy hauler had shower in the garage too? Or i take it wolf pack doesn't?
Though SOME do have a garage shower it's an extremely uncommon feature overall
Thats very big of you to eat that “Stinkbug upcharge” for us, Josh.
Thats shy you’re The Man. 👍🏻
Haha
I definitely use all the entertainment i can get, I need my oak island, Bigfoot , UFO STUFF, being the nerd that I am . Got to have all the installed!!!
And of course football and fishing, almost forgot.
LOVE oak island!!
I really love this layout and have been thinking about making the switch to a toy hauler after buying a RZR. I really like the idea of auto level but it is also a pain on rough terrain and steep slopes. The systems don't seem to handle it well if the front gets too low etc from my experience. I am curious, when you say prepped for AL, is all the wiring there as well? Just need to add the module and jacks?
That hitch weight and length that's definitely dually town 🥺
Yes, and no. When used as intended with something loaded in the back, the pin weight is dramatically reduced. We tow our similarly sized 365 with a 1-ton SRW and it does fine. Would we rather have a dually for peace of mind? Oh yeah. Have I ever felt unsafe with our SRW? No. I would say 1-ton required, dually recommended.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 Don't know you SRW payload but my 2021 Ram 3500 SRW only has a payload of 3750 lbs. because of OEM options I guess (50 gallon tank, 5th wheel hitch, dual alternators, Cummings etc.) So safely using at max load or not I could only put myself, the wife and a glass of water in the truck before I was going over payload. Just that length alone scares me. But everyone's comfort level is a different bird.😳
@@unclelala4216 Totally understand. Ours is 3500lbs. With the garage empty and just me in the truck, we are already over weight on the CAT scale. However, with our can-am loaded, cooler and grill in the bed, hitched up, with my wife and I our truck, ready for a trip, we are under GVWR on the CAT scale. Don't get me wrong, if we stop of a big dinner we will be over.
Love the toy haulers! Just wish there was a vehicle that could pull it and hold my family of 6, lol.
[old man voice]
Back on my day we just rode on the hood
And we were _thankful_
Why the tiny main bathroom? I'd much prefer to see a walk through bathroom so that someone has room to turn around at least. I hate how they're always jammed into the corner somewhere.
It's really not that small in person. I'm 6'6" 300lbs and it's perfectly fine for this price point. Even with the doors shut I'm not bumping into walls.
As the other comment or mentioned it’s a big bathroom I feel but the camera struggles to justify small spaces
Sad because there is never a video about phenomenal quality.
Know what’s also sad? If I did a video like that, then there would be ugly backlash in the comments section.
Hey Nerd, I am pleased to see manufacturers put more and more solar on their rigs. Which is great, but I also see the rush to change the fridges to 12V. Which seems to be encouraging people to be more "off Grid" But with the 12V fridge, solar is NOT going to be able to keep up with the demands. I don't know what is the rush to try to move from 2 way fridges to 12v. I'd love to know the percentage of campers that use "hook-ups" and how many "of US" that Dry camp. Just thinking out loud. I wouldn't want a NEWBIE, get out there thinking they're all ready to take on the world only to find out all their food went bad. Keep up the great work "NERD".
12v fridges cost less, hold more, and cool faster. Those are attractive benefits
Without question they pull more juice. Presents a problem for off grid camping
Some people swear the factory systems take care of their needs. Others find themselves battery dead quickly
It’s all over the place and I don’t have all the info to fill in the blanks..
Hey Josh love watching your videos, I have a suggestion...could you do a quick video on what it takes to get your cooker to work on cooker hooker?I can't seem to get my portable bbq to work off of that thing...I'm sure I'm just missing something but some help would be greatly appreciated, again just a suggestion, I know your a very busy man, thanks!
The cooker hooker is for cooking on cookers specific for the cooker hooker.
The gas at the propanus is regulated. More than likely, your grill has a regulator and you are using an adapter hose. Therefor, it’s double regulated and doesn’t have a enough flow to light or get hot.
I have two initial thoughts:
* you have a portable bbq that requires a high pressure LP system not provided by those cooker hookers
* you need to flip the little lever on the hookup itself to allow the gas to flow
Third thought: are other lp appliances working properly? I wonder if there isn’t air in the lines that needs bled out
You can do that bulky lighting the largest burner in the stove and burning it hard until it quits spitting
Do the 2023's still have the Zebra shades or blackout rollers? I didn't see a single shade pulled in the living quarters in this vid.
Zebra style
Nice RV "if" you have "toys" to haul, with decent living room space, porcelain toilets, MaxxAir vent fans and standard solar👍now please standardize 2 decent smart TVs and a ladder🙄
Carpet on the slide out? No
For a toy hauler this size, not having a third axle is a big mistake.
Owning a similarly sized 365, we wish it had a 3rd axle as well. However, it really gets along fine with 2 axles. It would be great for braking action. While the factory brakes have enough braking "Power", it would be nice to have two more tires worth of braking "traction". In other words, more tire contact means more deceleration ability before wheel lock-up. Stability wise, it really is quite stable. Even when overloaded, and towed with a SRW. 😉
It's important to remember that the wolfpack series is more of a budget option. Real dealer lot sale pricing is 20K+ less than competition that has nicer finishes, triple axle, 3rd air, bigger tanks, auto-leveling, etc. When we were shopping there were alot of "WTF" moments when comparing this series, until we started factoring price into the overall picture.
Missing roof access ladder? It is a shame that they have cut out the ladder to access the roof, especially since keeping up with your warranty requires you to inspect your roof every 6 months. Also to check your slide outs before leaving a tree covered parking spot which debris will get on top of the slides and must be removed before closing the slides. And yes I know at a cost you can have slide Toppers installed but still need a ladder to access the roof. Maybe a problem with China not being able to get roof ladders in! Yes you can purchase a telescoping ladder to attach to the mounting bracket they give you but seems a little flimsy and definitely not safe.
Yeah prepped only for a telescopic variety. Not my favorite idea on a big rig like this.
Head banger medicine chest in the toilet.
For the price, it’s hard to be interested in other manufacturers.
Nice but Auto Leveling should be standard
It feels that way given it’s size
To many options on tv's now. I will get my own if I so choose to put one in. Do love nose cap on this rv
Ty Ken. Handy feedback
Auto leveling is an absolute requirement for me. I wouldn't buy a giant 5th wheel without auto leveling
Ty
The weird not-a-king bed has to go. Not a fan of the carpet either. I can do a rug if needed.
We had a custom mattress made. The factory one measures about 67x74. We were able to fit a 70x77x7. We could have gone with a 70x80 if we extended the wood under the mattress, but that would have ate into the walking space too much for our taste.
You can’t go bigger than factory on a conventional mattress or bigger than 70w on a foam because of the wardrobe slide. However, the extra few inches of space and the deletion of the factory death wafer was well worth the $750 or so it cost.
Man that’s awesome insight. Ty so much. Nothing beats real owners sharing experience!!
The auto-leveling seems like a cash-grab. 3K plus tax and shipping for 4 electric jacks and a sensor? Plus install if you can’t do it yourself? Hard pass.
I mean, if the kit was $1500, or it was hydraulic for $3k, then I would bite.
Maybe someone with LCI can set me up with a discount code or something.
Wolf Pack has always been a more budget option and I think they're working to keep it that way but the past couple years have made it hard
That being said.. I think almost everyone would just prefer to have the auto leveling on it. But it's a chunk of money for sure.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree, and that was by far more of a knock at LCI than Wolfpack.
Argh. Carpet.