Jack the Ripper: Monster, Mystery, Legend
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Mexico, and most Central/South American nations allow conjugal visits, and some.....even prostitutes if the prisoner can afford them.
Sorry Simon, I love reporting these comments for "Unwanted commercial content or spam". I mean.. they have commercial content and .. I don't want it, lol. Love your content tho.
My laptop has decided it doesn't recognise a battery is present.
There was a victim up here in Birtley in County Durham that is also tied to jack the ripper and it indicates she was murdered on a train and thrown off the train, 100% not a joke even though it sounds unlikely
BLAME JUDAISM,
BLAME HOMOSEXUALS,
BLAME THE IRISH,
NOTHING CHANGES😡😡
I’ve been doing my own in-depth research on who was Jack the Ripper really was. What I’ve discovered is both Jack the Ripper and Winnie the Pooh share the same middle name? Coincidence??
Jesus christ! You're onto something. Jack the ripper none other than Ji Xinping!
It's your first name too... Another clue mayhaps?
I think 🧐 , NOT.
There's no record of Jack and Winnie being seen in the same room at the same time, soooo........
Please don’t give the conspiracy nuts any ideas, thank you!
I’m honored beyond words that I had the opportunity to do this, my heart is beating a mile a minute! I got to cover THE serial killer, I love it! Thank you so much Simon, it’s an honor and a privilege!
I hope everyone likes it! Love you all! All comments and criticisms are welcomed as always!
I don't even need to hear all of it to know you did a great job, Matt ♥️
Matt and Jack the Ripper: ABSOLUTE legends.
Edit: Jen too.
Congratulations and best wishes going forward. This is a beast of a topic.
Matt, As a current "sex worker" I've got no issues with being called a prostitute. There's a lot worse things you can call us.
I’m so lucky that my name is Kerry. If they had gone with there second choice I would have the same name as one of the victims. Spelt differently but still I feel lucky 🍀
"There were 700 prostitutes and I had to redo them all" - Simon Whistler 2022
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is exactly the kind of statement where context is SO important!!!!
#CancelSimonAgain
He's catching me up 👆
🤣
Simon is a giver
In a rather sad way, it's almost refreshing to have an episode in which all the victims were adults.
I know. I find it really hard to cope with stories involving child victims.
yeah who cares about those adult human females 🙄
apparently life becomes worthless on your 18th birthday? "Think of the children" is fucking sick when people say shit like you did.
Sadly, the victims were sex workers. Again. So it's not that much of a change.
“i’ve got number dyslexia” simon, that’s called dyscalculia
I have that too as well as dyslexia.
Came to comment exactly this lmaoo
Simon should start a channel where he’s given a topic, and then he goes on various tangents for an hour.
Don’t give him ideas.
Whistlers tangents do not need their own channel.
Doesn't he already has 4 or 5 of these? 🙂
I would watch that.
I need this channel
This needs to be a thing.
You should think about doing an episode about the murder of April Tinsley. It was unsolved for decades, involved mysterious messages left by the killer, and was solved by the same lady who used the DNA databases to find the Golden State killer
I know nothing about the case but that summary makes me want to hear about it. Go Simon’s writers.
I would watch that. 👍👍👍
A really interesting one! The distance that science has come over the years with DNA is insanely promising and has helped to close so many cold cases. It's amazing stuff.
Her name was Michelle McNamara!
@@gabbanator 💯 agree
I would personally love you guys to cover the "Thames Torso Murders". I feel the entire case was completely ignored because of the "Jack The Ripper" murders, in fact, in pop culture, the only reference I've ever even seen, was in the ITV show "Whitechapel" in which a copycat killer repeated the crimes. Massive thank you advance if you do decide to cover the case and huge thank you for all the amazingly well covered cases you've already done. Great stuff!
WE REALLY NEED TO VOTE THIS UP! 🏋️
Considering Simon is curious and I’m seeing so many people asking, trust me that it’s on the list!
@@MGscribe Looking forward to it!
Jack the ripper was real. It was made up but the government of the time to scare the public. Look up laws being passed around the same time the murders started. Jack was actually hired hands by the people in power. Should look into that and maybe have a video on that possibility.
There is a theory that Jack the Ripper was also the torso murderer.
fun fact:
i lived several years in an old apartment in whitechapel, and the door to said apartment was right in the alley jack the ripper killed Ann.
i never really got used to random tourist groups huddling in this tiny alley when i came home with groceries n had to squeeze passed them n everyone time someone would gasp in shock “you live here?!!”. yes, yes i did xD
Shouldave made a side hussle business from the tourists.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nqits in public.... Cant do shit unfortunately
Those final words of the script gave me chills. "The darkness is always watching." Bravo!
Thanks a million!
The most fascinating thing about this case is that the five women that are pretty much confirmed Ripper victims were not necessarily all sex workers (or at least not proven, but some assumptions based on the time) but they are all confirmed to be alcoholic. I always wondered if that contributed to the MO instead of the assumption that he was going after sex workers.
That is an interesting thread. Maybe the real Jack was a pub owner, or someone else with a steady supply and means of acquiring alcohol, who got women boozed up and did his evils while they were blacked out.
@@deadseven3474 Or picked women who were already thoroughly sloshed because they were easier to subdue.
I agree.
If you haven't come across it yet I highly recommend Hallie Rubenhold's book "The Five, The untold lives of the women killed by Jack the Ripper". The author did an incredible amount of legwork when it came to researching the women, from their childhoods, marriages, children and deaths, as well as the circumstances around London at the time. There's a really good audio version of it on audible.
That's a great point. 👍👍
Honestly I feel like this video actually goes into depth about the lives of the victims so much more than the majority of Jack the Ripper docs,, Thank u Matt for actually talking about the lives of the women and telling their stories
I did a Jack the Ripper tour when I was in London (not that I am a enthusiast or anything, I actually hate the story and everything about it deeply unsettles me, I am do glad Simon did not describe the last mutilation) and the guide focused a lot on the victimes. He would play the "respect" note, which was kinda nice, but it's also very smart, cause there is not much to say about the Ripper himself. There are many suspects, but that's about it.
There's a podcast called Bad Women and the first season goes into each of the women's lives with the historical perspective of what it was actually like to be a poor woman in Victorian London and how the women killed by Jack the Ripper were probably not all sex workers, just women trying to make their way through poverty and mental illness or trauma. It was good. It didn't really try to figure out who he was, but more tried to reframe the victimology.
Agreed 🙂🦘🇦🇺🐨💔.
On the subject of people whose job it is to deal with grim crime related stuff, a lady at an old job of mine once worked for the CPS, viewing video footage in crimes against children cases. She said that people in that role barely last a year before noping the eff out. They had regular checkups with an in-house mental health support person, but you can't unsee the horrendous stuff they saw. I read an article a while back about the folk who weed out dodgy stuff on Facebook & they're not given any support, plus the salary is trash, so it's even worse.
I don't understand these people. And those who have no problems with the work, well, THAT is a problem.
Then there's the totally lack of mental healthcare given to police officers who have to witness this stuff in person. Well, maybe not *total* lack, though sometimes none at all would be better.
@@Rampart.X yeah having the willpower of a healthy adult and not a child is such a problem... go back to tik tok zoomer.
Surprised the sailor theory got left out, as the possibility of a sailor being in town for a few months and then leaving again both explains the suddent start, and the abrupt stop immediately after a massive escalation. It also opens up a whole list of other suspects, including several other serial killers with similar MOs whose only reason for not being considered as Jack is that they weren't English, despite their whereabouts being either unknown, or confirmed to be in London, at the time of the ripper murders. I cannot remember the names, but at least one was a Prussian (I think) sailor who killed in various ports with a similar MO to Jack the Ripper.
Never heard of this theory. Sounds super interesting. I might have to do some research.
But it does not explain how the killer seemed to have such intricate knowledge of by-ways and escape routes.
Would explain the horrendous english despite knowledge of anatomy
@@colors1653 a naval surgeon? Someone who worked on live screaming victims on a rocking boat with no anesthesia? A dead body would have been cake!
"I'd think barristers are quite well paid"
The fact that UK barristers are going on strike for not being paid enough to survive the inflation without government handouts today shines a bit of light on that situation.
Barristers are self employed, who are they striking against? If it was a solicitor it would make sense. Less than 1/5th of all barristers work for the state and do so needlessly while also making at least 60k p/yr
Common theory now is most of these ladies were just sleeping rough, because if they had been awake they would have screamed and people would have heard a struggle. First victim was flat on her back and the blood evidence supports this as you said. No one had time or money to lay down for SW, standing up ally way sex was the most common thing.
The production stuff actually is interesting to me 😂 I love hearing about the behind the scenes stuff that keeps the production going. Keep it up Simon, you absolute LEGEND
that would be brain blaze
I love it when he just starts going on tangents. Could listen for hours
A good book that emphasizes the victims of Jack the Ripper is "The Five" by Hallie Rubenhold, which gives biographies of each victim.
I am hoping the writer read "The Five" by Hallie Rubenhold, which looks at the lives of the five canonical victims and goes into who they were when they were alive and not just as the victims of serial killer. At the time of their deaths I believe only one of them could be classed as a sex worker (another had been forced into it when she was younger, but wasn't turning tricks when she was murdered), as such only two things were a common thread for them: the first being they were all in the depths of poverty and deprivation that was East London of the 1880s; the second being they all struggled with alcoholism (again, a symptom of the horrendous poverty and conditions they were forced to live in).
My theory for who Jack was is that he was some religious nutter on some temperance kick, who targeted the women because they were drunks.
Matt Granda has actually commented on this very video (in my feed his post appears above yours) and he welcomes questions and criticisms. You may be able to ask him directly and get an anszer.
I would say that is a stretch. It is more logical to say drunks are easy victims then some Prohibition Punisher.
@@balazsvarga1823 Well there are so many theories about Jack being a Prostitute Punisher or having some sort of vendetta against Ladies of the Night, so why not have the same thing but about the Temperance Movement?
@@brydon5721 I think both angles are overcomplicated, he could have been just a sadist. It is not impossible but Occam's razor suggests he was just a psycho going for low value easy to get targets.
@@balazsvarga1823 Very true, most killers don't really need much in the way of a logical reason for why they do it.
My cousin’s friend is one of those “clean up crew” people. Day to day it’s usually picking up bodies from homes after they die of natural causes. But sometimes they have to deal with tragic accident. Like he had to deal with the Croydon tram crash a couple years back and he said it was horrifying. But the pay is pretty high like £30-50K.
that… doesn’t seem high enough
it’s good, sure, but damn
@@mikieswart Yeah. But plus side is although it’s a small plus given the type of work they do is that they don’t have to work everyday. Only when required. However given these past few years I bet he has been working as if it was a normal 9-5.
Uncle of mine was a police commander in a unit dealing work organized crime. Let's just say the crime scenes he went to required the disposal of all of his clothes afterwards such was the stench
John Douglas, one of the founders of the BAU, wrote an excellent book called "The Cases That Haunt Us" where he profiles unsolved famous murders. One of the ones he profiles is Jack the ripper. He goes into detail as to the "type" of person the murderer was. It's a fascinating read. Do recommend.
Thank you for the recommendation! It sounds fascinating. I'll definitely give it a go!
@@rosettastoned766 that's it, I've found the best username ever
A better book is by Philip Sugden, The Complete History of Jack the Ripper. He went through as much of the original inquest papers and police reports as he could find but gave less credence to newspapers since they had a tendency to exaggerate or even make things up. He clears up a lot of inaccuracies and even incorrect statements. Douglas repeats a few of the incorrect ones. Also, Douglas tends to be a bit full of himself although the book isn’t as bad as others I’ve read.
@@hollycockerham5851 a song by Tool.
@@sionanenrois1433 I own both books and think both are very good. However I agree that Sudgen's book is the better one. As the title suggest it's handling the whole account of the case as well as the other Whitechapel murders that occurred about that time and are sometimes connected with the Ripper. What I found a little disappointing about Douglas' book was, that he dismisses Martha Tabram as probable first victim of Jack the Ripper 'though there are more similarities than differences to his modus operandi. Sudgen however believes she was one of the Ripper's victims.
Years ago I worked in a small rich suburb at a photo lab, & studio. The local police had an account with us, & brought film of little crimes that happened. Nothing serious happened, until three murders happened in a couple of months. The brought in the crime scene, & autopsy photos. After the third murder, we told them to buy a digital camera, & printer, & not bring any film of bodies back to us. 🤢 I still can't get that out of my mind.
I'm not sure who tried to cancel Simon for using the word prostitute instead of sex worker, but that's a modern convention. Literally all the sources refer to people working in the sex trade as prostitutes, women of the night, Etc. Canceling someone for using the actual words that the sources use to refer to certain people is silly and should be ignored.
From the bald head and beard combo I think no one has tried to cancel him, he's just pandering
When quoting the source - possibly, but it is also established that certain parts of a quote can be altered (so long as it’s made clear what is altered and how). When discussing the source, definitely not, as otherwise that is just an excuse to use slurs and inappropriate language long after it is appropriate to do so 😅
Language changes, we don’t discuss things with the same wording decades later 🤷
Prostitution is actually the legal word for it. Like in every law document, you will see the word to describe “sexual favours for money” as prostitution.
Your writers never fail to impress. This is like a hockey game. We're here to watch you read the script but if we're honest with ourselves...it's the damn tangents that keep out butts in the seat!
very true
What's a tangent
@@m.e.5482 a smaller orange
With the current discourse on ethical true crime content, I thought "Casual Criminalist is the BEST I've come across." This episode, Simon: "JACK THE RIPPERRRRR"
Lmao to be fair, I didn’t think he would say it like that 😂
@@MGscribe I believe you 100% lol. Thankfully Jen fixed it for all of us 🤣
The tangent on having to go through terrible content/clean up bodies made me remember a kid I met on vacation once. His uncle was the local coroner and him and his friend would go around and pick up bodies, throw them in his pickup to take them to the morgue. They also cleaned up the scene if necessary. Kid was 16 at the time.
I'm glad you avoided the Royal conspiracy theories, woven out of entirely thin air but a go-to for some types; some people get unhealthily obsessed with the Ripper.
When I lived in the East End I used to work in Hanbury Street, the site of one of the murders. There would be regular "Ripper Tours", where a group of people would be led around by a guide who often had to shout to reach the back of the group: Some of them even got some facts right. I'd have hated to have lived on that street and had to endure these tours several times a week, day and night.
I have no understanding of why the term “prostitute” is offensive and “sex worker” isn’t. The latter sounds way worse to me.
Because they now have a union.
@@TJ20232 😂
I am filled with pride that my boy simon actually got Llewellyn on the first go! well done sir, tis a glorious victory
I've heard about the case and all but there is something about listening to Simon for an hour and a half that gives the cases life. Thanks for the channels, Simon.
Simon, you can get your kids a new iPad if you invest in a Lifeproof case. I have three kids, and got the first one before my oldest turned 2. The kids would on occasion literally fight over the iPad, but it remained in pristine condition the that case. I think they even dropped it down the stairs once. I did have to frequently wipe the case down with disinfecting wipes, because small kids, and it was fine. Maybe you can get one free for a sponsorship when you inevitably start your Baby Blaze channel.
I love how they released this just as the Christmas adverts have arrived on CZcams. Simon's colourful descriptions of eviscerated unfortunates juxtapose beautifully against the wholesome families and charitable carrots.
If you get a chance, please take a look at the disappearance of Audrey May Herron. She was a nurse in upstate NY that went missing without a trace in 2002, even her Jeep was never found. Her daughter continues to try and keep her mother’s case in people’s minds and had gone above and beyond.
Maybe getting some new light may help to identify new leads.
Probably fell into water and drowned with the car. If so, it will probably never be found out, unless the river dries up or something.
There was a case with two missing young girls from the 60s found at the bottom of a river, only known about because someone saw weird shadow on Google Maps or somesuch. God knows how many of those "disappeared without a trace" are lying on the bottom of rivers still inside their cars. While bodies float, cars don't.
As a security guard at a kids hospital not only did we have to move bodies, we had to hold parents back as their kids were attempted to be resuscitated. We got paid a little above minimum wage. Oddly most new guards lasted less than a week.
Respect to you ✨
I am a recovering heroin addict. Just got 8 months. I now bring meetings into the same detox and rehab I went to to detox in myself… I’m just saying this because the world does very much need people on the positive side of things , to provide a listening ear, maybe even hope, and at the least, a distraction from the usual from what thoughts they may be mired in negative thoughts….a reprieve . Temporary, or maybe it will come up some day months, years later, as things hav for me.
Much love from Philadelphia and hope you’re well
I know someone who used to work security. He could deal with almost anything. Except the children's palliative care ward. It was just too hard to see day in & day out. People who work in those places are very strong.
I Literally shouted "YES! JACK THE RIPPER!!!" When I saw this upload! LOL! 🤣 I'm so excited for this one!! Thank you, Simon & Crew!
Me to! I did a little dance too I'm so excited 😆
That was me too, bouncing about on my sofa. My bf told me to calm down 😂
But HOW??? How do you not already know every single detail and theory by heart already?
Me too! Hahhaha
Jack the Ripper. What a legend. Absolute unit.
A mad lad
I don’t think the ripper would have killed himself. He loves himself too much and is proud of his “work”.
I'm intrigued by Charles Cross/Lechmere. He was found with Polly/Mary Anne Nichols by Robert Paul and claimed to have just found her. He was local to both neighborhoods, living in one and growing up in the other, and he likely would have walked to work along the streets where 3 of the bodies were found around the time of their murders in the early morning, the other 2 (double) occurring in his mother's neighborhood on his only day off. He only came forward after Robert Paul mentioned him in the press, gave an alternate name, and told a false story during the inquest. I think he was also going through a difficult time with his family, which could have been a stressor. Everything that points to him is completely circumstantial, but it's interesting.
If it was Lechmere both the Nichols murder and the Stride murder are the same situation. He was interrupted during the murder. My question would be if it's the same exact situation, why would he choose a different path during the second if it worked during the first? Just give another alias and pretend you found her Like that.
I find that suspect interesting, too. In a documentary -- I think its title is "The Missing Evidence: Jack the Ripper," a researcher says that Cross lied to the first constable he encountered when he went with Robert Paul to find help and told him was that there was another constable already with the body. He told the constable this when Paul was out of earshot, and when this constable arrived at the scene, he found another cop who had just encountered the body. This covered Cross's lie. I think Cross is very much the sort of a person who could be the Ripper: a seemingly ordinary man who blended in and knew the area very well. My only question is that if Cross was the Ripper, why did he stop? Or did he stop? We would need to know about his life after the last killing to find an answer.
@@corey2justified1a lot more suspicious when it happens twice
@thomasmcadam5337' What I want to know is why people respond before putting thought into their responses? You probably were smiling as you were writing this comment, thinking that it was such a clever response, but sorry to disappoint. To answer your response, yes; it would be more suspicious if it happened twice if we were talking about the 1960s until now. We aren't thought, we are talking about the 1890s. The whole point of my original comment was that there is that they don't take pictures of witnesses in the 1890s, so unless the first responding officer is the exact same officer, he could have just gave another name and they would have been none the wiser. I feel like people often confuse police tactics back then with now, which are not at all the same.
As a modern day investigator who was asked to look into the particlars of this suspect said in an interview: if Charles L WASN'T the Ripper, then he was a pretty unlucky man to have been in such proximity to a homicidal individual during one of his brutal crimes...and on multiple occasions. It is know thst he would've been traveling through the areas of at least 3 of the victims locations at the times they were slain.
The more i read about the guy the more suspicious he seems. The only catch is that there's no nice tidy explanation for the sudden cease in killings with this suspect, as he neither died shortly thereafter nor was incarcerated. So if it was him, he must have either satiated his killing urges or he made a conscious decision to stop before he got nicked. Maybe he had a close call with the authorities after the last murder that was never reported and it scared him straight. Or he may have gotten very lucky following several of the murders and decided that his bloodlust couldn't rely on luck forever
The Ripper is probably one of the most well known killers, especially since he’s considered one of the first modern serial killers, who went up against one of the world’s first modern police forces.
A recommendation to any of Simon’s writers that may be perusing comments: Otzi the Iceman. Ancient ass ice mummy was undoubtedly murdered about 4000 years ago, iirc. Lots of fascinating stuff!
Dyslexia for numbers is Dyscalculia. It isn't often recognze or know about. I struggled all through school and wasn't diagnosed until college
Jen on point as always!
As an Aussie tourist the first night I spent in London i did a Jack the Ripper tour.
My favourite suspect is Lechmere. There was alot of shady behaviour as well as local knowledge and timing.
Aren't we like 99% sure it was Charles Cross (ie Lichtmere)? Wasn't a cabbie. He was a mobile driver for a butcher company. And he was WITH the second body and AT all the scenes. . .he lied a ton to cops and on the stand
Wasnt Lechmere, he probably nearly saw him.The ripper escaped pass the school turned south and turned down a passageway leading off Winthrop st exiting out onto Whitechapel rd
Yeeeaaah! Casual Criminalists time. A bright spot in my blah Monday afternoon
Preach!
I think the word 'legend' in this case refers much more to the fact that 'legends', also known as 'stories' or even 'myths' have been circulating about the guy basically ever since he showed up. Just the neutral term 'legend' that indicates a story told and perhaps believed by some.
Just what I was going to comment. For someone who reads a lot of scripts, Simon doesn’t seem to know many standard word definitions (or pronunciations).
Nice one Matt and of course great edits by Jen and last but not least Simon who always manages to sanitise the horrific bits.
A great episode as always. I think an episode on the London Torso Murders would be interesting since that’s one that I’ve never heard of but sounds interesting. I would also like to point out that when Simon said that an area with 80,000 people living in it was like a small village that this is pretty far off. Yes there are a lot of cities that the size of still blows my mind, 80,000 is still a city by most standards. That’s larger than several US state capital cities.
Thames Torso murders began after the Whitechapel murders ended. There is a growing number of folks working on the theory that it was JTR’s new MO.
Jen is 80% of the reason I'm subscribed to this channel. She's brilliant! You're pretty good too, Simon. :]
This is a very well written and researched piece. One of the best in-depth looks at the case I've ever seen online. Bravo guys. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Matt's work in the future.
The History Channel did a documentary on him. The investigator came up with the witness at the second murder, Charles Allen Lechmere, born Charles Allen Cross. He used both names in the police report and the inquest.
There were lots of little inconsistencies with Lechmere/Cross. Enough to make him a candidate for being the Ripper. ✌️😸
He wasn’t born Cross. He was born Lechmere. His dad left and the mother began marrying bigamously. Cross was one of those “husbands” and served as a kind of stepfather to her kids until he died.
Charles Allen Lechmere undoubtedly killed Polly Nichols. There is not a whole lot linking him to the rest but the evidence against him in Polly's case would be strong enough to bring before a modern jury.
NEVER underestimate the fact that he can be positively linked to her crime scene. Name me one person who has been traditionally seen as a suspect and place them at the scene of the crime, or in other words, a practical suspect. Some suspects have been proving to be out of the country during certain killings.
Nothing to do with ol' Jack, but I'll never understand why prostitute is a derogatory term now. That said, this was a solid script and I dig how proud Matt is of his work. I feel like Simon's greatest talent is recruiting exceptional talent
I don't understand why it's derogatory, either. Personally, I think "Sex-Worker," sounds worse.
It's because words accrue meaning and implication though us, and academics don't seem to have caught on the the fact that it is what the word is associated with which is conferring negative connotations rather than the word itself. We see another example of this with constantly shifting language around the mentally handicapped (handicapped itself is an example, many of the words which are now seen as insulting were first introduced exactly because they were value free and the last term used was no longer seen as such). There has also been somewhat of a history with what people call prisons, penitentiary for example was chosen to suggest that the prisoners were doing penance for their crimes (which is meant to sound like an acceptable alternative to being punished, harsh punishments being supported by the vast majority of the population of the time, for example support for the death penalty only went under 50% support in 2010 or so in Britain, the wishes of the population have exceedingly little to do with policy much of the time, this creates a climate where policy makers and advocates attempt to mould public sentiments through clever use of language and implicit meaning, creating a bit of a mess, and a good deal of examples for people like me) by social reformers (usually Quakers).
*use
The reason why prostitute sounds better is that it is associated with the idea of the fallen woman and other sympathetic portrayals (which weren't ever particularly worried about according with fact but still had an element of truth to them even is a distorted one) of the moral women forced between the debasement of herself or the starvation of her children (you can perhaps see why modern ideologues hate the word, it has many implicit ideas and moral assumptions which they wish to supersede), sexworker on the other hand brings up images of e-whores, people with few redeeming personal qualities who pray on desperate young losers for financial gain, not the implicit association the progressives were planning on but when you introduce value free language what will become imprinted on it is the character of the people who use it rather than whatever they straight up demand people think. Prostitute was effected by deliberate campaigns to effect perceptions by Victorians, they didn't just tell people not to think anything negative of it.
@Voryn Rosethorn Frankly, I think the term “sex worker” provokes more negative connotations than prostitute, and it’s utterly absurd that someone finds the the word “prostitute” upsetting. A spade is a spade; sex worker or prostitute, they do the same thing. Until social morals shift, both words are going to conjure up negative connotations.
@@jasmijnvenner2403 I would be rich if I had a buck for every person (usually older person but not always) say "I don't know why they want to be called "black" people. They're not even really black and to me it sounds worse than "colored"!" You can think whatever you want and say whatever you want, but if a word is insulting to a group and people who empathize with them, you might get judged for using it.
I am really enjoying the way you lay out the crimes, it is in a very respectful way.
My favorite theory is the one posed by Star Trek, that he was a noncorporeal alien that moved from planet to planet inhabiting a corporeal body to wreak havoc because it was sustained by fear and violence.
56:40 SPOT ON! Those people are like the modern day photographers from past wars. They see things the general public will NEVER see and hear. THEY are true hero’s for doing it and not letting another generation have to sit through the Gore, Horrible Stories and Killings that don’t make it onto CZcams because they say no first. They truly are LEGENDS. 🙌🏼 👏🏼
Five minutes into a video on a notorious serial killer and I'm laughing my ass off.
So much wrong with that.
Love you, Simon! Never change!
So, even though I am 100% convinced this won't tell me something new about the Ripper, I was so excited to see this come up on my feed. I want to here Simon's take on going through this! Lol
What a great, detailed explanation! You go so in-depth with these videos and I appreciate it a ton! Have a great day.
Correction on details of murder 1...Officer Neil came across Polly on his own. Cross left and found PC Miter who eventually went to join Neil eventually. Some believe Cross who really wasn't Cross but a man called Charles Lechmere, was caught in the act and played the innocent finder of the body.
Thanks for this. From the beginning getting important info wrong turned me off to this video.
Saving this one for tomorrow after my shift so I can watch it properly SO EXCITED!!
Honestly, after 134 years, it's got to the point where I'm half expecting Space Aliens to be thrown into the mix.
Lmao. That is great
IMO, Lechmere is by far the most compelling suspect for Jack. You might say it's as speculative as some others, but he was at the scene of the crime, and none of these other dudes were. Is anyone really gonna say that if they stumbled over a guy standing over a fresh corspe in the street, they wouldn't immediately be incredibly sus?
The issue is that Lechmere did not match a lot of things the ripper more than likely had. He had no history of violence or hatred toward woman, no skill in butchery or surgery, also he wasn't found hunched over the victim, the actually inquest states that Paul saw him standing in the middle of the road before Charles called out to him and that they were 40 yards apart, if they were that far apart why would Charles just run, it was dark out and no one saw his face, instead dhe chooses to linger and talk? With potential blood on his clothing and a hidden murder weapon? It's just too far of a stretch to me
@@carolusrex5213 I mean, keep in mind that when I say "suspect", I mean people we know of who could have done it. On the list of known suspects, he's the one we would have to make the least number of assumptions about to place him at the scene.
My friend worked one of those video review jobs. It is horrible. They literally had mandatory mental health breaks and counseling every day. Plus there was a counselor available 24/7 if needed. And it paid barely over minimum wage. He saw some stuff that haunts him
I was obsessed with this case when I was a teenager. To this day, I still absorb all I can on the case, and even have incorporated it into some of my own novel work. It's one of those unsolved cases that I think people will be talking about it forever until one day we have a full answer as to who Jack the Ripper truly was.
Have you read The Five?
Great video on Jack the Ripper Simon! If you want to keep the trend of historic British crimes I highly suggest looking into the case of Timothy Evans and John Christie. The case is absolutely heart breaking. It’s the reason why the death penalty was abolished in Britain.
As someone who writes for one of Simon's writers and is trying to get into the CZcams scene, I found your opening rant quite interesting
as a content moderator, hearing simon talk about the horrible stuff we have to witness first hand warms my heart. it's a job not for the faint hearted and yet we are not paid enough (or at least here where i am)
Catching up on episodes and the Jack the Ripper video game bit is seriously one of the best things on CZcams.
"Good luck to you in your holy cause, Captain Sheridan. May your choices have better results than mine. Remembered not as a messenger, remembered not as a reformer, not as a prophet, not as a hero, not even as Sebastian. Remembered only as Jack"
This is the Babylon 5 episode I showed my friend to try to get her into the show. I had to walk her to the bus stop and stay with her until the bus got there. We never spoke of it again.
In all seriousness, I honestly don't get what she found so frightening about it. I'm a total coward when it comes to scary shows and I love "Comes the Inquisitor".
I do think there's other victims, I think we have to seriously consider that, and the cross over with the torso killer. Killers can de-escalate after reaching an extreme point, especially if there was some intervention or they felt things had gotten to close. Arrest for a different crime, hospital for someone who's gone a bit mad, something that got him off the street for a while and he had to be a people again. I think of Bundy and how he could spike so viciously in his violence but then get caught and just Be A Person again. Obviously a fake creepy one but he wasn't a gibbering lunatic lunging at everyone.
I can see Ripper peaking then scaling back. And, again, there's cross over with the Torso killer. What are the chances, really, that two killers with similar MO's operated so close together at the same time? A torso was found in the newly laid foundations for the Met! Who acted MAD shady through the whole ripper case.
Well Matt has actually added to my knowledge of this case. He simply listed the lives of the victims before their murder.
The last victim feels much different than the others, beyond the extended mutilation. She is by far the youngest, the only killing that takes place inside, plus the fact that she ended the killings make her death the most suspicious of them all
The thing is, Whitechapel isn't a very big area, so those people were pretty much stacked in there.
A great presentation of Jack the Ripper and I have subscribed.
I am an east end Londoner and in the past I`ve had many cousins claim our great grandfather was Jack the Ripper, just word of mouth.
But so have hundreds of people claimed one of their ancestors was the ripper.
It seems a new Jack the Ripper suspect is conjured up every few months.
It`s been 135 years since the Ripper murders and giving a positive evaluation I would say it`s 99.99% that we`ll never know.
I don’t understand what it matters. Prostitute, sex worker, do you think THEY actually care which you use? I sincerely doubt it. Who decides this crap anyway???
bruh that part had me seriously laughing hard af. i love the way he is on this channel
Even if I know this story realy well it'a an absolute pleasure to listen to it with Simons commentary.
PS
Reffering to Watler dressing up as The Ripper... Actually costume parties were highly popular during Victorian era. People organized balls with a themes like "Napoleonic wars" or "Oriental". They would dress up as different characters from the era/region and even do a bit of roleplay. So you can say Victorians were kind of an early cosplayers xDD
Yes, costume parties were common but from what I understand, Walter Sickert was what you might call nowadays, a JTR “fanboy “😂
Brilliant job lads, only one thing I want to point out, poor, uneducated women of that era couldn’t just pop down to their local social security office, so their options were limited. 👀
I think this is very much over looker.
1:36:10 "Jack the Ripper may be long gone"
Me: "UNLESS HE WAS A VAMPIRE"
I can’t be the only one who thinks Simon needs a channel where he interviews people.
I'm not here for Jack the Ripper, I'm here because I love all your channels and I find topics like this interesting and I'm open to things I wouldn't normally lookup, and keep it up. You always get a thumbs up from me, Credit to your writers as well. :)
Glad to see more causal Criminalist.
"Jack the Ripper" was probably more than one person. So it's likely that he both was and wasn't caught. It's likely that at least one of the murderers whose crime was associated with him was probably caught.
Ha, Jen adding in footage from the Assassin's Creed DLC where you play as the Ripper is GOLDEN
ive been so obsessed with jack the ripper since i was a little bit too young (7-9 i think?) and i Love documentarys no matter who or what they say its all fascinating to me. but ur video is soo well put together and told i adore this
I think the Yorkshire Ripper (Peter Sutcliffe) would be a good follow up to this video in demonstrating how even a century later Jack the Ripper has influenced the general consciousness and culture. I don't think there's already an episode on him, but I could be wrong?
Oh he’s on the list, believe me lol
Love it when CasCrim goes old school!
The roommate may have also taken out his anger on the other women rather than his beloved. Until all hope of a relationship with her was lost then killed the original instead of a proxy.
Great Work. Ive been searching for any single documentation , tv show, information, rumors etc. about Jack The Ripper, so ive met your channel. Though i like True Crime also very much, you got me- go on,you doin a good job. Thrilling content with dry humor. I lke it, keep goin:)
I'm in the Cross/Lechmere camp, myself. If you go by what we know of modern serial killers, this unassuming little man makes the most sense. Not dramatic. Not insane. Not sensational. Just boring old evil.
I love how the misspellings drive Simon mad. They do it to me, too. I do collaborative writing with a number of people all over the world, and one of the things that drives me insane is when someone tries to write an accent. The intentional misspellings make me twitch. Anyway, when you read the letters out loud, the way that those painfully misspelled words would sound when spoken, it almost seems as though they were trying to write a particular accent. Now, this could be intentional, so that they seemed uneducated, or from some other area. Or they weren't particularly book smart, which means that they were sounding out words. I'm kind of leaning on the affectation of an accent, trying to throw the police off, because, well, the handwriting alone would suggest at least some schooling. And it just feels like that day's equivalent of "cringe" fan-fic writing.
9:47 From that description, Charles Cross should have seen who killed her. The wounds were that fresh.
Or because he 'found' her, he should be on the top of the list of who might be the killer.
And the fact that he lied to the police and that isn't his real name.
His real name was Charles Allen Lechmere.
I will continue listening, to hear if this comes up.
1:28:05 THANK YOU!!!! Finally
Hands down one of my main suspects, probably only rivaled by Barnett!
You should do an episode on Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate, they're the Bonnie and Clyde of Nebraska USA where I live.
We've also had Doctor Anthony Garcia, nasty piece of work also went down in Nebraska
I love the localization of criminality and how people will go digging in their own backyard for the skeletons in their closets. Would love to read more about these!
@@gmbrusselsprout the couple are from the 50s and I remember learning about them in school, the doctor was more recently and was all anyone in Omaha talked about for years, it was really brutal
The first witness:
A man comes upon another man standing above the body of a drunk or dead woman, and that man is vehemently against the idea of moving the woman to a more comfortable position, because he knows she's dead.
I think a video on Paul Michael Stephani AKA "The Weepy Voiced Killer" would be interesting
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Simon, you hit on a good topic for Into the darkness "Modern day slavery"
"Prostitute" isn't the wrong word to use imho.
Sex worker is a catch all term. In enough years, that term will have whatever connotations the word prostitute had. What's mad is just using "prostitute" when it is accurate and not judging people for being prostitutes is the actual answer. Because people that judge prostitutes will judge sex workers just the same.
That's off topic, though.
I agree - plus 'sex worker' makes it seem a lot more of a voluntary choice than many of these women had.
Matt and Simon! Great episode! Was very uncertain about whether I should listen to the content because of the dire disturbing nature of it. But, I feel that there is a very human and realistic presentation behind this. It feels like I'm sitting with friends at a get together and listening to a story. Just missing a glass of something with alcohol.
You must be easily disturbed
There is nothing more fabulous than Simon and his tangents!! LOLOL Jenn perfectly adds the most appropriate clips! Go Jenn! :)
What a way to be remembered for ever, but it worked, morbid history.