The Murderous Story of Burke and Hare: The Anatomy Killers
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The real question is where is Callum
Where do I buy the notebook??
Vessi, please sell in the UK so I can support you and one of my fav content creators!
Where are the notebooks Simon?
I just git my pair, they are genuinely very comfortable.
As a recipient of an organ donation I cannot begin to tell you how grateful I am to Simon for encouraging people to become a donor. I went from having no kidneys and depending on dialysis 3 days a week to receiving a kidney and living a relatively normal life. I will NEVER be able to describe how freeing it is to not be hooked up to a dialysis machine three days a week for 3-6 hrs at a time. PLEASE DONATE AND BE A LIFE GIVER. Thank you again Simon for being an absolute legend for all you do and for using your voice to advocate for donation.
you too are an absolute legend!! I'm happy that you've been healed by the grace of organ donors & I wish you a long life of superb health & prosperity 🖤🖤
I am a registered organ donor and recommend it to everyone I know. I mean what are you gonna need that stuff for in the ground? The three R's, people, recycle, reduce, reuse.
In new zealand you opt in or out when you first get your drivers license, little freshly 16 me was quite spooked but i opted in and im really glad i did :)
I love the idea of being an organ donor - a friend of mine was actually a match to one of her friends who needed a kidney, and she was really excited to talk about her experience as a living donor. I wish I could be a donor (living or...after) but my family has a history of cancer (going from great-grandparents to my parents) so I'm hesitant :(
I glad that you were able to receive the organ you needed and no longer have to deal with dialysis. My grandmother had to do it once a week and it just took all of her life and energy. She decided not to go anymore because it was so brutal. I hope you have many more years of good fortune.
"Peggy" is actually a common nickname for "Margaret," so it's not that strange that the victim has been called both and probably not a mistake. I'm not sure how that nickname came about, though. Source: my grandma's name is Margaret but she goes by Peg.
It started out as Maggie, which then changed to Meggy because of changing accents, and then that was changed to Peggy due to a trend of creating nicknames that rhyme.
This rhyming nickname trend is the same reason that Bill is short for William, and Dick is short for Richard.
@@VioletEnds was always curious about that thanks for the info.
Yes
@@VioletEnds that's awesome, always wondered
It's because all names are just made up sounds we use to communicate with each other.Their all made up,so literally any name,could be literally anything,at any time,whether you choose to respond to it or not.Names,they're just made up words :) Like all other words.
Simon, "Not even his acquaintances are safe." Eyes slowly shift towards the basement door where Danny can faintly be heard rattling his chains.
I feel bad for Danny, Simon is attempting to restrict him to 2,000 words per brain blaze. What else is he supposed to do down there? When will we hear more about Johnny Sausage, communism and the crowing fowl of Cornwall?
@@jessejoyce1295 you haven’t seen the new episode of Brain Blaze?
Danny ded
@@joeyoaks8950 and his skin has been stuffed into boxes of Magic Spoon.
Right next to the skeleton of Callum
no, i swear thats not Danny you hear, its "the neighbors doing construction" yea, yea thats it
The man who first used an early kind of incubator to treat premature infants, successfully, funded his facility by selling tickets for people to see the tiny babies. The development of his ideas has saved many lives, including that of my mum, born 3 months premature in 1957.
Edit: Also, I did part of a university anatomy course, and we had access to human cadavers. It is vital to help students learn anatomy.
The cadavers were cremated once they had served their purpose, and once a year we held a memorial for the people who had donated their bodies so that we could learn from them. Some amount of morbid humour is present. It's how some people deal with a rather confronting situation. But we always treated the cadavers with the utmost respect.
The Coney Island babies right? Loved learning about that.
I feel like more respect needs to be given to those that donate their bodies to that purpose.
I know it makes some people gulp in discomfort to imagine being used in an autopsy for medical students to practice on, but think about it: doctors have to learn somewhere, right?
Fun fact: Donated bodies can also be left outside to rot so criminology students can study states of decomposition.
There’s a CZcams channel, the Institute of Human Anatomy, that uses human cadavers to show how the body works and how some diseases develop and affect the body.
They’re very respectful and it makes it clear why students need to learn from human cadavers.
I’ve used their channel to learn more about my own chronic illnesses and you learn so much more about what the body actually looks like and how it works from the cadavers than you ever could from diagrams in textbooks or websites.
For me it also helps to see the body as a whole rather than just a defective nervous system or just an immune system that’s acting abnormally or ovaries that don’t behave as they should.
Instead everything is linked and it can explain symptoms that didn’t make much sense previously.
It's what I'm doing
I won't care how it's used
I'll be dead
It'll be a good one for study
Multiple TBIs
Alot of broken bones /spinal injuries
Diseased organs along with cancer
It's been a damn good life
Might as well show off the vessel when I'm done with it.
At this point Simon has been saying that those notebooks are coming "soon" for so long, that I fully expect them to have lovely human leather covers.
Simon's listeners would probably pay extra for that, lol
@@amezification Shhh.... you'll spook the writers.
Don't worry the chloroform is just to help you sleep because of the neighbor's drilling.
They’re still not on sale anywhere !!!!
Danny was looking rather skinless last sighting soooo...
That's why he had to look overseas for a source, can't get away with that sort of thing where his viewers live
Soon after the trial, this fun little ditty was being sung by children in the playground:
Up the close and down the stair,
In the house with Burke and Hare,
Burke's the butcher,
Hare's the thief,
Knox the man who buys the beef.
Burke and Hare they were a pair,
Killed a wife and didnae care.
Then they put her in a box,
And sent her off to Doctor Knox.
Burke's the Butcher,
Hare's the thief,
Knox’s the yin that buys the beef!
Love this
Old children’s rhymes were so dark. Between this one, the Spanish flu rhyme, and the Borden rhyme, lots of horrifying death
I was going to mention this but you beat me to it!
wow. Children. They take whatever you give them.
Dark. 😳
Hey Simon, I am a paramedic and stethoscopes are an invaluable tool. A good dual lumen stethoscope allows you to hear both high pitched breath sounds and low pitch heart tones. The way these work is when you apply light pressure holding the stethoscope to the patient you hear the high pitched lung sounds which help with diagnosing and distinguishing the difference between respiratory illnesses which have different treatments. By using a heavy pressure you hear heart tones which also help to diagnose murmurs or congestive heart failure. This is why we still use them everday in healthcare.
Legend
💯 as a retired nurse
the stethoscope was invented by a new doctor. he could not bring himself to put his ear to a young lady's chest. he was shy.
As another paramedic, gotta love a solid littman stethy
@@mta4562 the story I heard was that it was invented by a germaphobe.
Edit: I should know better to google first before commenting.
I think the germaphobe was one of the people that made improvements.
Simon's surprise at the fact that we still use the stethoscope is so cute! Wait until he finds out about the wheel!
While not in common use there’s some cool electronic ones now. Mainly for people who are hearing impaired.
But he wasnt suprised by that. You have it the opposite, he was interested in the fact of how long ago it was invented and still in common use. What show are you watching?
@@wingerding I'm not rewatching a video from over a year ago to figure out what I was thinking at the time. I don't know and I don't care.
@@corirobinson886you dont have to do anything other than know you were wrong and falsely belittled someone because of your inability to pay attention.
@@wingerding le sigh. There are several components to communication and text is only 10%. I was matching Simon's energy. I highly doubt he took any offense, if he even saw what I said.
As the brother of two siblings that had heart transplants, I cannot begin to tell you how important organ donations is. It is new life that you can give to others once you are done using the organs. Take fact boi's advice, sign up for being an organ donor if you haven't.
Congratulations to both of your siblings for receiving their transplants! I wish the best for you and your family.
My brother-in-law needed a new heart when he was in his 20s. He's since gone on to father my adorable nephew. I'm grateful for the donor that saved him.
So true. Right now, my wife is on the transplant list for a kidney and pancreas, because her diabetes caused her kidney to fail at the age of 36. We've been waiting so far for about a year and a half, because they are so hard to come by. Not that I want anyone to lose their life to save my wife's, but God forbid the worst happens to you, the best gift you can give to another is an organ.
And before anyone suggests that I give up one of my kidneys for her, I would in a heart beat, but we're not a match, and also I've been smoking for about 25 years, so my organs are pretty much shot right now, but I am an organ donor, so if I have any good organs left when my times comes, I pray I can save someone else.
@@tonyramos6265 I completely understand. It's so hard to pray and wish for a much needed organ to come when it could hurt someone else. The moral conundrum I faced when I hoped for a new heart for them was boiled down to me hoping that two people would die... I stressed this to the doctor because of how bad I felt and his words were "you are not hoping they die, but that they keep on living with (your siblings)" it really helped put my mind at ease.
I hope that your wife gets the kidney she deserves.
@@Shizznad Thank you. And I'm so happy that you have the heart you needed, and that you're still with us. I'm sure that the family of the donor can find comfort that the lost of their family member was able to save another and can keep living within you.
Simon, your casual criminalist 'notebook '. When?
Don't write down your crimes!!
Was wondering the same.
For real!
I second this
We all need to know this
The "legal to dig up bodies" was probably more like there were no exact laws against it.
There were, but they're crazy! Stealing the body of a dead person was not illegal because a dead body could not belong to anyone. However, stealing anything from the body (jewellery, clothes, money etc.) or the coffin itself was (it was a felony). So burkers would strip the body of any possessions so the most they could face was a misdemeanour. Scottish law is ridiculous!
@Erin Baillie politics moves slow and the politicians thought thief would only steal what they were buried with.
@@erinbaillie1067 it appears the same holds- at least in most of the US. The only area I found where stealing a corpse is illegal was Washington, DC where they establish the victim as the corpse’s next of kin. Otherwise what’s illegal is stealing items from a grave/corpse.
As someone with many years of experience with horses, you're 100% right about how perceptive they are. All the stories of horses being able to tell if you're a good person or not are absolutely true. Often, the easiest way to get them to get past their fear of something is to simply not be afraid of that thing, and often horses will use your fear or apprehension towards something as an excuse to not listen to you as they're insistent on not doing things they don't want to do. My horse has sensitive skin and really likes his personal space respected because of it, but he lets me do things that he doesn't enjoy others doing to him like grooming him with little problems because he knows that I do my best not to do things he doesn't like for longer than I have to and that I have nothing but good intentions towards him. It's very likely that the horse refusing to move likely could tell that they were horrible people with horrible intentions and didn't want to work for them because of it.
Hell yes to organ donation!!! I am 7 weeks post a kidney and pancreas transplant. I'm only 36 years old with a 5 year old. Without the gift given to me, I don't know how long I would be around for my family! Donate donate donate!!! It's a worthy cause! Also, I enjoy all of your videos. I got upset when I binge watched them all when I found your channel and had to wait for weekly updates!!
Was the kidney/pancreas transplant because of diabetes? If you do not want to share I totally understand. I have a 23 year old son who was born with diabetes.
Thanks for commenting. Your story lifted my spirits
@@stacythurman5225 yes, it was die to type 1 diabetes. I was diagnosed at 8 years old, ended up in a coma for 2 weeks. I am legally blind due to retinopathy as well. After my son was born my kidney function never came back. It was unfortunate but everything happens for a reason. My husband was going to donate, but while going through the testing process we found out he had kidney cancer. He had it removed and is doing great now. So, due to having to wait for the kidney for long I was able to get the kidney and Pancreas. After 28 years, I am diabetes free. Diabetes, especially type 1, isn't something most people pay attention to. Good luck with l life has to offer! Now is a heat time to be a diabetic!!
@@krystinanicholas9870 like central serous retinopathy? I have this, it sucks!
@@wingerding yes. I'm completely blind in my left eye and legally blind in the right. I didn't work for years becaue3 I can't drive anymore. I finally found something I can do and makes me happy. Hopefully you're doesn't get any worse. It's the worst! I'd rather have lost a foot than my vision. I feel like I lost my freedom!!
Simon, a good British lad like you should know that "Peggy" is a nickname for women named Margaret.
Doctor Knox in fact kept buying bodies from other (unsavoury) people until the Anatomy Act in 1832 which made unclaimed bodies readily available for lectures in the university. He eventually got banned from teaching medicine and expelled from the Royal Society of Edinburgh. After this, he moved to London where he found himself unable to teach but made a career of his own writing for specialised magazines, books and giving talks among other tasks. So you see, he had it hard but overall got away with murder.
So there's a hope for us all then!
I am beyond thankful for people that donate their bodies to medical schools. I got a masters degree in anatomy, and I’m waiting to get into medical school. I did so much dissection that I would feel 100% comfortable in an operating room learning. There are so many things you can’t learn from a book. Because of these generous people, we have better doctors, and better surgeons. Sometimes Learning something complicated like the anatomy of the hand and forearm takes about 48 total hours dissecting every little structure, constantly paranoid and cautious as to not cut something important. I never took those people for granted, and I will remember each one of them forever.
9:50 - Chapter 1 - The 1st cadaver
18:40 - Chapter 2 - Background of burke & hare
22:25 - Chapter 3 - 1st murder
30:00 - Chapter 4 - Further murders
49:50 - Chapter 5 - The final murders
1:07:15 - Chapter 6 - Investigation
1:16:05 - Chapter 7 - Trial
1:22:40 - Chapter 8 - Execution & aftermath
1:29:40 - Wrap up
1:32:25 - Dismembered appendices
legend
Thank you! You’re a legend!
When an hour and a half long episode feels like 10 minutes, you know you did a fantastic job! I like how George is throwing in words that confuse Simon.
Also, I'm registered as a organ donor and a bone marrow donor.
Wait, are being a bone marrow and an organ donor different? I assumed it’d be covered under organ donation tbh
@@trashcan2748 Bone marrow is a living donation so not covered by organ donation.
@@trashcan2748 Nope. I had to register separately. Like Susan said, it's a living donation, so it is entirely a different process.
@@susanwaldron6831 Ohhh I’m an idiot! I was thinking of donating bone marrow while donating other organs once you die, not of donating bone marrow while alive and well lol. Thanks for the elaboration :)
I believe it’s the same for liver donation… I’m not entirely sure but the liver will regenerate after being cut in half so it can be done while the donor is living.
I agree with Simons' assertion that George is a fantastic writer. All the writers under the "Fact Boy" Umbrella are fantastic.
They gotta be careful. Too long of an intro and they’ll end up in the basement with Danny.
@@sarahwatson3192 That's true. What they don't know; Danny has blackjack and hookers in the basement. And maybe a Middle Ages Catholoc priest hiding under the stairs too.
I am an organ donor recipient. I lost my vision due to Keratoconus in my late 20’s. I can see now due to someone very special donating their corneas. I am forever grateful for the generous donor, their family and their loved ones. A truely life altering gift. I am now nearly 50.
Burke and Hare didn't want to deal with supply chain issues.
Nice and dark... 🤔🤣
@@josvercaemer264 just like the rooms that the lodging guests thought they were going to be sleeping peacefully in 😢😪
And alas only one of them got to experience the benefits of vertical integration.
I actually ended up ordering a pair of Vessi with the code because I'm on my feet all day and I go through shoes like others go through underwear. Easily the best shoes I have EVER worn! They are so flipping comfy and any foot pain I had is gone. I'm a fan now of them for life. Thanks Simon!
Your code worked? I've got a screen shot of my vessi cart right now,and it's just telling me to use a valid code.They aren't getting my money until they uphold that offer.Not sure what the issue is,but I was actually going to buy 3 pairs,but not now.
Found the Vessi employee
Would u sell me a used pair??
My brother passed away while on the transplant list. I can’t stress enough the importance of organ donation because even though he couldn’t be saved someone else can be.
My brother in law has two dogs named Burke and Hare, and yes, they're named after these two. Because (the dogs) are always bringing strange old bones back from the woods.
😜
That’s the difference, the bones they have are old and presumably found by them, not new and fresh on account of them! That and the fact that dogs are innocent even if they do bring home an animal. I mean I heard that someone’s cat tried to give someone a live snake after breaking their headphones!
Did he wait until they were fully grown to name them or......? Sounds like BS to me tbh.
Been an organ donor since I was old enough to make that decision. My loss can be someone else’s gain, give someone else another shot. I 100% agree that everyone should donate organs after death
I wish we'd change to presumed donor status, if someone really doesn't want to they can opt out but default should be donor IMHO
Absolutely agree donating organs to save life's is a good thing. check out Johnny Harris' video on the dark side of organ donating too. really interesting underbelly tale
@@KS-PNW Yeah, like, when I'm already dead, go ahead, take 'em all, but don't bother me with the hassle of having to register somewhere, when I'm still alive.
@@KS-PNW one of the great things about living in Austria, everyone dying here is an organ donor unless they opt out. Comes as a shock to tourists sometimes though
Maybe not "everyone," my family has a history of the big C and that's not exactly something you want to pass on once you've been diagnosed, but yeah. I wish it was a lot more common than it was.
Simon should be given one of these cases, to try and solve himself. It would be a great shakeup to the formula. Plus, Simon could flex his big brain like he does on BB.
That’s literally EVERY episode lol, simon tries to solve every case halfway through
If you arent careful this idea might become its own channel
Simon works hard, but he’s far too lazy to investigate a crime case lol
@@Ajin718 Well, I mean...
That's why he's the CASUAL Criminalist.
I just renewed my drivers license today, and I signed up to be an organ donor. Thanks Simon
I signed up to be an organ donor after my nephew had a liver transplant at 1 year old. It was such a generous gift from the donor and their family that I don't have the words to say how grateful I am.
Drinking game for this episode of CC:
Take a sip of Scotch whenever:
-Burke & Hare kill someone
-Simon has no idea what a word means (shot gun the whole thing for that old-timey paragraph of writing)
-Simon reads the word "nought"
Don't forget "Simon goes on a tangent."
@@iruletheworld411 Are you trying to kill us?? 🍻
Gurgle gurgle gurgle...
Also a shot for every "absolute unit" or "legend"
I definitely recommend that anyone who finds this interesting watch the film Burke and Hare (2010) starring Simon Pegg, Andy Serkis, Tim Curry....it's a comedy but excellent which you can tell by just looking at a few of the cast members. Check it out!
A 'Spaced' reunion! Loved it!
I was just about to say that! Beat me to it!
I always avoided watching it because every time i read about it the source made it seem like a serious biopic. Might give it a watch knowing it's actually a comedy
I came down to the comments to make sure someone mentioned this movie.
@@Onora619 great minds think alike!😉
So excited for this! I've been recommending this case for ages! As for the organ donations - we lost my Dad in 1999 - his organs went on and saved 5 lives. We are now organ donors in memory of him
All your writers are brilliant, but George, my dude...this was melodically, rhythmically genius!
My daughter is 8 and just learned what it means to be an organ donor and that I am one. She immediately said that she wants to be one too and that everyone should.
That’s a proud parent moment
40:17 Hey Simon ya big brain, Peggy is an abbreviated version of the name Margaret. She was probably called Peggy by friends/loved ones and Margaret by whatever paperwork she left behind. 🤪
I’ve listened to this three times so far, and it’s been out about four days. George’s Casual Criminalist debut was excellent, and ever since, when an episode begins with Simon telling us George wrote the script, I get extra excited: I know the writing will be illustrious and totally on-point.
Keep at it, CC team: you’re definitely doing it right!
Jen, your superb editing skills do not go unnoticed. The dramatic music that plays in the background while Simon reads the script, then stops as he goes off on one his tangents , (we love you for them Simon) only to start playing again when he remembers he has a job to do... makes me giggle all the time. Awesome job Jen. 👏 👏👏👏👏
Burke's wife was born and raised in the village I came from. No-one knows where she disappeared to after the trial. I've always wondered if maybe she floated back to the village after a few years or if she still had family living there. Her descendent's probably still live in the village, hell, I might even be related to them 😆
Please describe...What is " folate" ?
“Run away, shave your head, maybe grow a beard.”
- Simon 2022
Lives in Prague, is bald, has a beard.... well, I suppose there's that kidnap of Danny business lol
I've been meaning to register for organ donation for years and this video prompted me to finally do it. Thank you for sharing this important reminder.
I find it amusing to see Factboy struggling through the dilemmas of whether or not to take revenge on perpetrators. It's a perfect case for what Robert Szapolsky describes in "The better angels of our nature". We as a species do love violence, as long as we percieve it to be the right kind of violence.
I don't see the dilemma. They fed the machine quite happily, why shouldn't they be the feed.
The mystique of George is a great story in itself.
Hey Simon I hope you are doing great. Always a better day when I see Casual Criminalist pop up.
Being a donor is extremely important as Simon mentioned but looking into being a living donor is also a good thing to do. I am in a donor registry for bone marrow, I figure if there is a chance I can help someone I would like to do so alive or dead.
When I was 10 my doctor (who was `70 and retiring) gave me a skull that his great great great grandfather had received as a gift after a dissection. He had an entire listing of the person the skull had belonged to including birth and death and what he died from. He was dug up the same day he was buried and taken to sell to the university. My friend (I've had him all these years) resides proudly on a shelf above my bed.
If you have the identity and religion of the man (via birth/death/burial records) and you know he and his family did not consent to the dissection (he was "dug up") have you thought of approaching clergy of his religion to assist you to right the egregious wrong our society has done to him by laying him to rest? Or at very least, remove him from display? Granted there are numerous museums around the world I'd ask the same questions of, so you are not alone in feeling (perhaps) untroubled by the situation you, and the remains of this man find yourselves in.
@@jenA9026 He's been with me now for over 60 years. I can't see giving up my old friend. Maybe I'll direct my son to find his ancestors, if any, after I've gone on to the next phase of existence.
@@jenA9026 probably because it holds sentimental value to him and In my opinion having him displayed with pride and in honour of the guys life is at least in my mind better than it just being in some grave that most likely nobody will be visiting any time soon and just decaying into nothingness whereas at least this guys paying some form of respect to the person on a daily basis considering it's above his bed
Imma put it this way if my corpse gets dug up and sent to some uni for dissection and the doctor who keeps my skull passes it onto someone like this guy who displays it with pride and honour of the life I'd lived then I would be happy with that outcome
Why do I watch stuff I’ve heard you talk about at depth already so many times? It’s just impeccable at each rendition
Maybe because we pick up new details we missed on the previous views? Maybe Simon and co put some kind of enchantments on the videos so we can't escape? Who knows?
Well, Simon, when it comes to poverty here in America, the average citizen lives paycheck to paycheck, and at times if one bad thing were to happen, like you missed a day of work, your only car broke down, anything of the sort, it would takes weeks to months to come back from that. Just to get back to paycheck to paycheck. That's pretty much the middle class here. The pay here hasn't kept as fast or at all comparable to inflation, so the cost of living keeps increasing, whereas the pay has stayed there same since the 1980's. It's fucked up and the people we elected refuse to do anything about it.
And, had minimum wage kept up with inflation it would currently be 22$/hour.
More people need to be made aware of this growing problem in America. The homelessness issue, the food insecure, how many people are a few missed checks away from eviction or having to do without the lights, or the heat, or water.
One accident away from not being able to afford food
The Osage Murders is an really interesting case study that would be interesting to hear Simon's take on the motivations and the investigations of those involved
The writer's take?
George I love that you sneak an alliterative sentence into the scripts. 😄 That's some word nerd magic, right there!
according to a cop show I saw, Burke avoided the obvious signs of suffocation by holding the victims mouth shut while pinching their nose. A method so gruesomely that the show used the burke as a verb describing it.
But bloodshot eyes and blue lips,,
My stance on organ donation has always been: wtf am I gonna do with my organs after I'm dead/incapable of recovering (brain injury, etc.)? So yeah, become an organ donor! Save someone's life
Also consider joining the stem cell registry. YOU can save someone's life directly with just a donation if you're ever called. I'm already a member, all it took was an ID check and a spit/tissue test
Yes, unless you are one of the small minority that believes in keeping the body whole for religious reasons, you should donate.
If you are okay with being embalmed you should be okay with organ donation.
I can understand the hesitation to full body donation for some, although that is my wish.
I didn't know about stem cell registration.
Thank you for all of your hard work George. This was a brilliantly written script. This story was new for me, and it was a nice ride.
I first opted in as an organ donor nearly 20 years ago. I plan to stay that way.
Also, can we give the proper shout put to Jen? Her work is absolutely spot on.
This episode was like a penny dreadful novel.
Very gothic!
I've opted in as an organ donor. They won't take my blood (too many meds & other chemical imbalances) but if my kidney, liver, heart, or whatever can help someone else I hope it will!
I had a friend that really liked A Clockwork Orange, and we used to talk in the slang in there. Simon's tangent reminded me of that. I love the tangents cuz I end up remembering odd things I've forgotten.
The slang was mis-pronounced Russian words.. there was a translation dictionary in the back of the book I had.
@@scooterhocfecit3685 Yes, there was a dictionary in the back of mine, too. I didn't know it was mispronounced Russian, but that makes sense.
That ending about the “Dr” made me crack up. Brilliant episode.
Simon, you’ll be ecstatic to learn that I’ve been an organ donor for 30yrs since being licensed at 16yrs
WI, United States. Unfortunately, it’s still opt in rather than out. Always love the episodes, including Decoding the Unknown& others you do!
same. even same state 😆
Here is to hoping we all go in a way that allows that mark on our IDs that allow for that donation to occur! Also been listed since 16 different state though.
@@WyrdTina 😆
The U.S won't give up its guns,but you're willing to say everyone should give up their organs? What a backwards country you live in.
It's got to at least be a fundamental human right,that you have the CHOICE whether or not your organs are harvested after death.Afterall,that's pretty fucked up.Not willing to fight for free health care,but willing to say everyone should be giving away their organs? Your entire country is so messed up...
Simon, I have been an organ donor for 3 decades. Thanks for putting out such a great message.
I sure hope you've been taking very good care of your body then! Most people who claim to be donors,actually don't bother taking care of their bodies,and keep them in a condition that would even be transferable.The majority of "donors" actually don't have any organs that are donatable at the time of their death,because they neglected to never smoke,or drink,or exercise ever,or do anything else that may actually make their organs worth giving away to anyone else.
Ohhhh yessss another Vessi Discount!! Time for pair #4 !!! Love my Vessi's so glad you partnered with them. They are a Canadian company and do tons of positive outreach, including donating their shoes to Nurses. Props to Vessi and Props to Simon for continuing to partner with this company. I recommend them, I have a few styles and LOVE them all
Dude, that segway for the notebook plug. I almost died.
ITS currently 2:00, I literally have 1 hour and 30 minutes left on my shift. Thanks, Simon, Jen, and George!
Always nice when a C.C. lines up with your work schedule, makes day go faster!
@@KS-PNW right???
No sure if it's truly why, but I think Simon might be connecting "cobbler" aka "shoe-maker" or "shoe-repair shop" with key-makers because that combination is so friggin common in Germany, maybe it is in Prague, too.
It's the same here in the UK. Some offer dry cleaning services too
@@timmyboyuk2002 and in Oz, or used to be. Shoes have been getting cheaper so now there is less incentive to repair damaged ones.
THIS is an example of why I will never get drunk anywhere that’s NOT my house around anyone that’s NOT my closest friends/family
I'm not to sure about getting druck at the relatives' houses either. I'll stick to drinking at home.
I've never been proper drunk though.
@@ladykoiwolfe I was, once, but I didn’t mean to. Thank goodness my sister was an experienced drinker at that point
@@HavianEla I have tried. I've been a heavy drinker. Very heavy. I just don't get drunk, not even a hangover.
Just the same I follow some basic common sense rules like not using anything dangerous, I don't drive anyway, and I don't make any decisions that might affect me later. I have a plan before I drink, that's the plan I stick to. And I don't cook while drinking either.
I have made some really bad decisions in my life, but at least I was sober at the time.
“Got a cold? Might as well get shitfaced!”
I am currently sick and listening to this with a cup of wine in hand so this line killed me.
It's mental health month. Can someone please write Simon "Animals that are Better than Pedro Lopez" and just let him read a long list of animals that managed to save children? Maybe make one up about a horse named Blaze that ran into a burning building to save orphans, for extra serotonin. He needs to heal.
Burke and Hare! YES!! Muwahahahaha!!!!....
*ahem!* I mean, uh, OH! This is a fascinating story, and I am pleased that Simon is finally covering it on Casual Criminalist! Yeah...LOL
So I discovered the fact boy like 4 months ago and I now listen to at least one Simon video from one of his channels every day. I feel like I’m learning so much.
A Cinder gatherer was someone who picked up the remnants left in fireplaces and then sold it for gardening and composting purposes…
The bit that always bothered me about this story was that doctor, and how he got away with it!
If it had been a single body purchased by this guy, then I would believe his claims of being completely ignorant about the origins of said body. However that was not the case here, he was the one who planted the original idea and turned a blind eye to the evidence of misdeeds as they piled up! All for personal profit, as a surgeon with bodies to perform on was a spectacle that could charge a lot of money at the time....
I propose that the Doctor was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
Perhaps it wasn't a suggestion, he outright told them he cared not how they got the body... even murder.
It was one of the doctors employees that planted the idea.
I’ve been an organ donor since I got my license 10 years ago. I’ve told my family, I want them to take everything they possibly can use, even if it’s skin or my eyes, since it’s not like I’m going to use it anymore and it could be the matter of changing or saving someone else’s life
Best birthday gift ever. Thanks CC for a wonderful episode!
A militia is basically just an armed security force organized by the people of a town. The way I think of it is that the army is the sword of a nation, the national guard is the shield, and the militia is the dagger in the boot.
That is a great simile.
37:54 "how can you kill someone and then be upset if they are adulterous" As a person with that part of my brain malfunctioning that psychopaths have and also as someone with a "limited" emotional range, let me lay it down for you. When you have to separate your emotions from your life for whatever reason, whether its in the military to prenvt yourself from breaking down at a horrendous sight, or a serial killer who is separated from empathy and remorse, you have lost that secondary mental system that acts like a compass in addition to your logic to get through life. Subconciously, in my opinion, (not to be confused with 'unconsciousness") you seek that secondary system. or at least someway of double checking your social path. Most of the time, the 'group' (in this case the two guys and the wife) settles on a code of some sort. Unfortunatly, this is done individually a lot of times, without much discussion amongst members. This leads to different members living by slightly different codes of conduct. It might be really really easy to justify killing someone you've already decided was going to die anyway. then once you've killed a few times, the justification is " well.. I've already killed several people. if imever found out I'm dead anyway, no reason to differentiate between whos already dying and whos not. a kind of 'your circumstances and level selfishness v selflessness contribute to an ever evolving code, or like in this case, I can think of several possible, and likely justifications for the wife assisting her husband in the murders based on the time frame and the culture of the time,. But all of those involve the wife eventually deciding to submit to her husbands wishes and indeed actively deciding to support her other half the way she felt was correct. it would have been a decision to stay WITH the group instead of leave it. But she was rewarded by her husbands opposing code. knowing guys, he was probably just a little too drunk and she was probably quite attractive and one thing led to another and he got caught. but even assuming he had taken the time to think through a logic chain that ended, in his mind, as its okay to muder AND cheat on your wife, she would have felt betrayed, as simon said, because the only reason she was still in the situation in the first place was because she chose him over what was right, and his response was to forget her for another. yeah.... regardless of your justification for murder, betrayal is a whole other beast.
Very insightful, plenty of people also accept injury to the 'other' while considering themselves and their people beyond the evils that are meant for the enemy/other. Consider gang crimes or old school war tactics... Rape and steal in far away places, go home and still be considered a good person. Doesn't mean they are, but when it's normalized plenty of people fall into the habit
@@amezification agreed
Cognitive dissonance
Regarding Margaret/Peggy: my gran was Margaret but everyone knew her as Peg, so that's a thing even if I don't know how it came about.
Also, Falkirk is pronounced fall-kirk.
Same with one of my great-aunts - Margaret is her name, Peg has always been her real name...
Peggy is a common nickname for Margret.
My grandma too. I wasn't sure what confused him so much about that.
The most detailed look into this case by far. It doesn't matter how dark the material, this channel is always so entertaining
Watched a VERY interesting segment on the modern day trade in bodies on Ask A Mortician (not linking it, but it's on youtube and it was fairly recent). A lot of bodies that are donated wind up being sold to the military to test weapons on, and commercial companies to test various health devices (eg. hearing aids) on.
Lol when you accidentally donate your body to help create a super weapon.
Love that channel. That lady is cool
Peggy is a nonsensical abbreviation of Margaret, like Bill for William, or Dick for Richard.
Apparently nicknames like this happened like this more or less:
Margaret becomes Maggie, Maggie becomes Meggy, and then Meggy becomes Peggy. I guess since there was less name variety they wanted as many different nicknames to derive from the original as possible? No idea
Bill for William makes at least a little sense, but Dick / Richard is certainly just as much nonsense.
@@loke6664 Or how JFK was 'Jack' to family & friends.
@@hbailie9115 Apparently Jack is the diminutive of John and the evolution to that started back with The Normans. There's a bunch of steps to get there. Nicknames are weird. The name Megan is actually a diminutive of Margaret. So, really weird.
@@momok232 And as if those weren't enough, Margaret also becomes Daisy. Because the French call daisies "marguerite."
A few years ago Canada made organ donation an opt-out situation and I think that is the best idea. You won't be using your organs anyways 😅
I wish we'd do that here in the States, my understanding is it really helps.
Canada is cool.
Is that only for the newborns or everybody?
This is one I've been hoping to hear for a long time
I’m registered as an organ donor - even the eyes, which initially freaked me out until I rationalised that my dead ass ain’t gonna care - and my sister is registered to donate her body to science - which most likely means practice bodies for medical students. Both solid choices!
I am a huge supporter of organ donation. My Eagle Scout project was organizing a setup to get more people to sign up as donors.
Thank you!! 👏🏽
Great project
Brilliantly & beautifully written, George!
Awww, Simon has a nice laugh. It's good to see him happy, even if it is about desecrating graves.
I really want that notebook, I've been excitedly waiting for it since you first mentioned it!
Organ donor here. I can’t use them when I’m dead so I want other people to benefit. My mom and dad both donated their bodies to medical schools. Since they had cancer their organs couldn’t be used.
My grandpa planned to donate his body to Mayo Clinic. He had a rare muscle wasting disease. However, he died during the height of Covid19, so they didn't take it. Kinda weird that they couldn't keep him in a freezer.
That's fantastic.
I find it somewhat calming that none of us will be remembered shortly after our death. It doesn't matter if you're fairly well known, very few will ever learn of you.
like your great grandparents are virtually unknown to most
@@ZOOMPZ00mp This has changed a little bit over the last handful of decades though. More interest in learning about people's ancestors. Probably in large part because as the years tick on, we can go "further back down" the family three and still be in the age of information. 100-150 years ago people's lives were certainly not documented anything like the last 30-40, but on average there was still, relatively speaking, a wealth of information compared to 200-250 years back.
Imagine some day, 200 years from now, some young adult curious about his ancestors, go off on a digital historical forensics jurney to explore his great great great great great grandmothers Tinder profile.
Unless you happen to be murdered
I love that Simon is low key giving advice for getting away with crimes in every episode now 😂😂😂
I love Jen the editors cut ins. They are hilarious and diverse
I love the details on Dr. Knox's burial place 😂 I mean, god, wouldn't that be just awful if someone made a mockery of the good doctor's eternal slumber by making his bones into a belt buckle or candle holder? George is a very talented writer, he never forgets the victims' humanity, and his writing is prose.
The doc with the stethoscope is listening for a few things, but they can all more or less be summed up in two categories:
1. Noises that shouldn't be there. This would be like, a heart murmur, or crackling/wheezing in the lungs.
2. Noises that should be there but aren't. This one is admittedly rare in a non-emergency setting, but it deserves a mention as it can happen with something like a collapsed lung.
There's obviously a ton more intricacies than just that (especially since each particular noise has its own set of potential diagnoses, from the relatively benign murmur to the potentially life threatening arrythmia, but nevertheless, those are the two major categories)
It would be kind of tough to take blood pressures without them; I don't think my bosses (or patients for that matter) would be too pleased if I suctioned my ear to their arm. Well maybe the three year olds, but probably not their parents.
@@MickeyMallone. it's pretty rare to use them for blood pressure in any clinical or hospital setting these days though. The only time I see it is when the machine isn't working.
Mike Bryant I forgot that most places use the machines.
I love this podcast. A lot of interesting detail and always a bit of a laugh in places. Some may think it weird that we enjoying hearing about such things. But for me it’s just fascinating. Keep them coming Fact Boy
I love the new/between chapter sound. Is it just me or is it sorta soothing? LoL I mostly watch his videos at night, right before bed. It kinda helps me wind down.
A friend of mine is a medical student. When they’re studying anatomy they have one body to use throughout the term. She named her cadaver Fred. At the start of term Fred was a full body by the end of the term he was just a head 😳
Hello George. Thank you Jen as well for all you do
Brilliant writing and reading of such a horrible series of murders. Loved the pun in the end too had me giggeling hard! Your channels have got me addicted.
Talking about the name of the shoe in the sponsored ad, in parts of the Midwest they get called "kicks". Which channel should Simon use to enumerate shoe names?
Previous Simon didn't know how he felt about the death sentence...
Present Simon sure does. "Get them on the gallows, it's ****ing time"
I love any time Simon starts admitting to not knowing things or guessing but 'I don't know what a tenant farmer is, I don't know what a Presbyterian is, I have no idea what the Donagall Milita is, I have no idea what an adjutant is" is probably the best spiral down in the series.
The FBI is going to see Simon's search history and be like what is this guy up to. 🤣