Sociopath Businessman Tells The Truth About Capitalism | Asmongold Reacts
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- čas přidán 20. 09. 2023
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Overwork me, underpay me, be unreasonable with your expectations, and treat me like I'm worthless, and you'll make me not want to work for you. Simple as that. Society treating people who say no to being abused by employers like they're lazy worthless losers just showcases how normalized this kind of thing is.
Problem is once humans become desperate enough, they'll usually bend the knee and throw away any sense of shame and will usually do anything in order to survive. The wealthy elite know that which is why they want to recreate those circumstances.
Humans are reduced to a monetary value. Even social programs designed to help people live are justified whether or not it puts more money into the economy. I think human existence is more precious than that.
Well said.
Exactly dude that's why i started working for myself. Asmon over here basically agreeing with this clown, has he never had a job? lmao
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Where I work people come in asking for a job and get turned away "Sorry we're not hiring". By end of every week managers desperately messaging people begging to cover shifts because there's not enough staff. Those of us who are there are doing 2-3x the workload of one person. The real problem is companies that make billions refusing to reinvest it back into the business. They too busy paying out shareholders. It's straight up theft.
Oh I'm Australian too BTW.
Paying out shareholders for what? A shareholder has the right to take profit on its own bought shares.
They’re not paying out shareholders, they’re inflating stock price to use as collateral for low interest loans. It’s also cheaper to get existing workers to work more even with overtime because the costs of things like increased payroll tax and providing benefits outweighs the cost of making you work more
It's will be illegal for them to put workers before shareholders.
if paying out shareholders is more important than providing a quality service for customers and a safe working environment for workers then the entire shareholder framework should be utterly abolished. Maybe this worked years ago when there was market competition holding companies accountable but now that we have monopolies that will always have a consumer base due to lack of competition they just think they can get away with anything, and they're correct. Workers can literally die on the job due to negligence and the company will shrug it off because it doesn't matter. Zero accountability.
@@evanpage2540 probably, but currently laws set "shareholder primacy" as the rule. You can check Ford vs Dodge Co. about it's history.
The real sociopaths are the companies that call their workers a family for years then lays off half of them.
Even if your workers are your literal family, you would still rather lay off half of them if it meant you didnt go out of business and EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE FAMILY loses their job instead.
@@Neon_Whiteits a false alternative most of the time since you can cut other expenses, like shareholders psyments, or direct profit instead. If you really a worthy leader, you should start whith yourself being responsible for the risks, not laying it upon your workers. Thats what we keep hearing about buisnessmen answering why they always get more: ".. But I Take ThE rIsKs". But I hardly ever see it on practice.
@@LightCrasher you've never even considered that you could own your own business, have you? None of what you just said is true, or even makes any sense from the business owner's perspective. You're asking for sacrifices from someone else that you wouldnt make yourself if you were in their shoes. And they're supposed to be "the real sociopath"... smh, you should at least know that literally 82% of businesses dont have shareholders.
@@Neon_White Ok, first, its a big buisness we are discussing here, and the guy in the video in particular. Secondly, if you prove that you are not whith your workers, but only saving your ass and run at the first sign of trouble, throwing them under the economic bus, what do you expect? I gladly sacrifice my time in the interests of my employer if they treat me well and can do me a favor in the future, as they usualy do. If not, then to hell whith them.
The overwhelming majority of businesses are beholden to their investors and shareholders...who don't give two shits about family. Only money.
The job market was like an abusive unloving spouse that you couldn't afford to divorce.
Then suddenly ... everyone had their marriage annulled WITH alimony payments!
Now those spouses want you to come back .. to stop paying alimony, but everyone's realized they were in a toxic relationship.
There's no way these people are going back into something like that, all the red flags are still there, and they see them now with new eyes.
unfortunately there's a massive flaw to this logic, it's the same one that they've pushed on everyone, I don't work for my employer, I work for my paycheck, and if you wanna pay bare minimum, I'm gonna do bare minimum.
Exactly I work for a living, I don't live for work. Couldn't care less about their business just. Pay me
@@budoshi1981 HELL FUCKING YEAH! I want a paycheck so I can buy more LEGO and PC shit. I'll have zero emotional investment in my next job.
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And the bare minimum raises the more people are willing to work for the bare minimum.
@@fall1n1gr Because that job was the one I got after being trapped in a call center. I was so happy to escape.
The problem is people were so used to overworking prior to the pandemic that when they were forced to stop working they realized this. The balance between work and pleasure had been twisted. Now people see this and are refusing to go back to this unhealthy lifestyle. The average person just wants to be able to enjoy life a little more is that so wrong? Of course you will always have people abusing it but that's just how things are.
"it's just the way it is" 11 asmongold out of 10
Where is the money? How are they going to finance their lifestyle if they aren't working 3 jobs after the money has been inflated away? They'll work 3 jobs and be unhappy or they'll be homeless on the street, and there isn't really any other option.
Thus is why our government dont stop illegal entery into the United States, if the people wont work like slaves or vote like slaves, then they will replace the people, create a population boom to create crisis in housing and medical to create a greater augment to have more government assistance to make the people reliant on government and punish those who dont fall in line
@@brofist1959If enough people refuse shitty, low paying jobs, wages WILL go up. A lot of these employers are either facing collapsing businesses or slightly lower profits, and not all of them are willing to tank their business to "make a stand" against the peasants.
@@Alargator You are making the fundamentally flawed assumption that there is any money to pay higher wages. Companies don't have infinite money, and in this scenario, a wage increase across the board means a shrinking of the work force, which means more people doing the same job for longer.
You cannot get around this, there is no magical mass wage increase wand that you can wave to force every job to pay more, these are the cards you are dealt and you must play them as you have them. If you want to know why, it's because the government promises things like Medicare and Social Security, along with a few trillion in other welfare and pork barrel schemes. If you want to stop inflation from making your money worthless, then we're going to have to stop spending that money, because all of that is expensive and we don't have the money for it, so the money printers have to make up the difference. I don't make the rules, I just tell them.
rich people pulling out the avocado argument will never not make me laugh
The dumbest take of all time is that people don't want to work. OF COURSE THEY DON'T.
People want money and fulfillment, if you can't provide that, DON'T EXPECT WORK.
Fr. The idea that work is "expected" is a scam
As somebody that works with homeless and unemployed people I can guarantee you that not all people WANT to work. There definitely is a portion of the population that want to get payed for doing nothing. Why do you think people support basic income grants? Literally every functioning country in the world currently has BIG's, wasting millions, if not billions, on people that start drinking at 9 in the morning and do nothing with their lives.
Again, I work with these kinds of people daily, I know what I'm talking about.
And did you even take into consideration the existence of criminals? You say people WANT to work but the system is against them....while criminals exist whose entire MO is "don't want to work an honest and fulfilling job".
I get that the majority of people DO want to work, but pretending that everybody WANTS to work and the only problem is companies and the system is disingenuous.
@@MichaelLewis-fx8eq What? I literally said "of course people don't want to work" who tf are you arguing against.
People don't want money and fulfillment in terms of jobs. People want convenience and perceived security. If they didn't, they'd be out starting their own business to get real money and real fulfillment. And real risk, because now their ideals would actually be put to the test without an employer's safety blanket to catch them.
Yes many employers are dumbfucks. But don't pretend for a second that actual money and fulfillment is ever a part of the transaction at the baseline. It may be what people desire, but it's not what people act on when they sign up to be employees.
Only weak cowards "don't want to work"
Love the the threat, "we will automate your job". Then do it! Automate all the jobs and see how many people can buy your product. You've automated yourself out of the game...
Always believed that automation is gonna destroy sales
@@nizarbellamqaddam2644 No human to stop them from straight up stealing. Shit, as we see now, humans don't even stop that lmfao.
Finally someone here who sees this problem. If consumers do not have money, they can't consume. You can't grow a market by making it go away.
Back in the Roman days many of the emperors and would be emperors were rich enough to pay out of their own pocket for an army to take the seat of the emperor. Even with all that relative wealth they couldn't solve their problems in life.
What revolutionized the world was that living standards of all started to rise which freed a lot more time of people to develop skills to raise the living standard of all even more.
It is hard to be productive when you're just trying to survive.
If that is the case why do you think they would want to sell things? They own all means of production and can get along without those pesky workers. And the needed the extraction of value to build a world. If robots can do it for free, why bother? They won't be "out of the game". They will "define the game" completely.
Exactly. If people are not making money, who in the shit will be the consumer? Lol the snobs? Yea, to a degree, but they are more interested in the expensive high life. Nit everything is a 5 star restaurant and making yachts and villas lol plus you don't buy that every day
The problem is when the boss is breaking 7 different labour laws a day and you can't do anything about it because you are pay cheque to pay cheque. "Just get another job" where the boss is doing the exact same thing there. "Move somewhere else." Ah yes i will get right on saving up to move while im already choosing between food and electricity
To be fair, I saved half of my money after my first years after college in that situation. I knew I would have a bad time if I had to be living alone on my own house, so I was living with two friends for a good time, splinting house bills allowed me to save, learn some specializations, jump from different companies and search for different opportunities in a different city later. I don't work for anyone anymore, I do my own business, it took some time to learn and have confidence to make it. The thing is that it's hard to start, but if you really hate the position you are, you have to think and work about it every day, if you don't think/do something about it, you may get too comfortable and used to it to the point you just think it's your normal, you will get trapped by yourself.
Just suffer and report it anyway.
- This comment was typed from my smartphone
@@janitorizamped Okay boomer
@@erc4375 crying into your smartphone about how bad life is is actually a meme. You're a living meme.
i like how really rich people always assume that their "normality" is also everyone else normality.
I've had 15 jobs and am only 25, but it's because I didn't want to settle with working somewhere I genuinely hate. It struck me as really stupid to spend 8 hours of most of my days hating life instead of just leaving jobs that sucked until I found one that didn't. Obviously I get it that sometimes you need to float a shitty job for a while because you need to, and sometimes I did, but when I realized a place sucked my biggest hobby would always be applying to other jobs at work or as soon as I was done. I enjoy my work now and my bosses are reasonable. I'm not anxious on Sundays about going to work on Monday because I actually like doing what I do for the money I get. It really isn't even about the work, it's about who you are working for, and when your boss is a perpetual cunt you should just leave because regardless of your actual skill or self-worth or income if you are not happy it is not worth it.
Imagine someone offered you $10,000.00 more dollars to spend an entire year unhappy instead of doing something you enjoyed. Would you take that deal? Maybe once or twice or a few times depending on the money, but pretty quickly you will turn it down because you gotta make the most out of the years you have, or you are going to be rich at 65 and finally retire and realize you just wasted all the good years of your life.
It is easy to get gaslit into staying at shit jobs when you are younger, but once you are jaded from enough shitty jobs, confident in your competence and performance, and realize what a good job/workplace looks like you will realize it was good you spent as little time as possible working for/with losers. I don't take pride in having a lot of jobs because I agree it doesn't really look good to not work at places for long, but I am thankful for the experience and perspective it has given me. I definitely won't hesitate to leave a job that sucks ever. The business guy in this video seems like he'd be terrible to work for since he's obviously a bean-counting rat.
Bro, yes. Same here. Another tip is to live below your means. Prioritize a small list of things that are worth money or time and leave the rest. When you aren't struggling with huge bills because you wanted it all, you're free to quit a bad job or stick with one you love but financially isn't top tier.
@@kristenfriend7514 that is exactly what big bosses dont want people to do, therefore this propaganda of "work most of your time, spend small rest on a pricey entertainment". Thats what make green numbers in economic statistic, good revenue for the richest ones, and unhappy+unhealthy population. What is in people's interest is to do opposite - spend as much time as possible on cheap/free healthy hobbies as reading, walking, communicating with friends and family, and work as much (and as hard) as needed to keep this lifestyle, this is actual ecological stance about consumption, not vegan diet and attacking people who wear natural fur.
Yeah, generally the more terrible a job is the more you get paid, and you should be grateful that not everyone is like you or the terrible jobs that need to be done would not get done. Obviously if people still work for him then he's compensating them fairly, and he might be terrible, but that's life; if you dont like it no one is forcing you to live or to do anything you dont want to do.
I'm 25 and have only worked once in my life
@@Neon_White Yes that is why I do what I want to do. If people are happy doing terrible jobs good for them, but if you aren't then the only reason you are doing it is because it's your only option, you're an idiot, or you we're gaslit/too concerned about the social consequences. The last reason is the real one for why a lot of people stay, and why I say what I do.
It's such a cope that terrible jobs pay more. That is occasionally true but I'm making the most I ever did doing the best job I've ever had. I'm not grateful that people do terrible jobs because if they didn't those positions would have to pay more to find staff and then what you say would actually be true.
This is techno-feudalism.
Basically Cyberpunk 2077, where we are all plebs and CEO's and Lobbyist are our overlords.
quite literally
Fascism
Never in my life would I have thought that someone would the word techno feudalism is the right manner
I couldn't agree more! When i played cyberpunk for the first time my friend was telling me this was what the future would be like, I said no bro this is what we are now!
@@Okabe_Rintaro fascism and capitalism are inherently intertwined. laugh all you like, it only displays your ignorance.
As a guy who worked in fast food restaurent before , the reason why there were no people at taco bell is the minimum wage for way too much work, overtime , absurd demands. I rather go clean toilets in a mall wich is paid more and with less bullcrap.
More crap in Taco Bell than in toilets
I'm calling Cap. I've seen multiple stalls and walls where people shit on the floor or had blowouts on the wall.
I would hope bulls aren’t crapping in toilets
Not dealing with the general public is worth a lot
Malls are dead. Good luck.
They seem to forget that without workers they have nothing
Worked in a callcenter for minimal wages having around 10-20 calls an hour (with angry customers). Got promoted to teamlead and basically linked pictures on Pinterest all day for almost double the income. Ever since, I do not respect the "hard work" of our leaders anymore.
Sitting in your own personal office, evading your family at home, making one tough decision now and then to satisfy your shareholders...that is not "hard work". Wiping the ass of old people in hospital all day is hard work. Slowly destroying your bones in construction is hard work. Raising kids and working full-time is hard work.
Automation is a long way off from replaving skilled tradies. This guy is just mad that hes having to pay more for skilled labourers and wants to treat them like peasants while hes the king. Hes really lucky he didnt make these kinds of comments in France when they still had guillotines
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Absolutely. Some trades will always require human intervention. Someone will have to upkeep and maintain the automated machinery, and then operate it or at least make sure it's not gonna destroy parts throughout the day.
Most employers forget they get their wealth from their workers.If he doesnt want to pay them more money he's abslutuly free to build his own houses, but he thinks he is too good for that
We can bring them back.
@@Lantern_Light we could improve ♥
Not only did I work my hands to the bone grinding through concrete and shouldering materials, my gf could not even get temp disability after the doctors put drains in her abdomen. I remember the judge saying she needed to prove it was disabling to be driving around with a drain port in. I remember her calling me crying while I was at work. I'm sorry I'm sick she said. You need to have a life. I told it's ok. You are doing a great job. You tell the manager you have to go home with a medical emergency if you have to. The manager actually gave her trouble over it. He said something like I have the flu but I still go to work. She had a drain port like I said. She actually almost sued the guy after restaurant apologized to her. She used to tell people I was one of the hardest working people she ever met. That made me feel better than a fat paycheck. She passed away god bless her soul. I know if she was still around she would tell her story. Maybe we should try youtube she says to me one day...
Stay strong man
I am sorry that you've had to go through all that. That sounds super hard.
Brother, I don't know you but my god do I feel for you. I am sorry for your loss, may you both reunite in the afterlife.
May she rest in peace, stay strong dude
My God man, hope you're staying strong
My wife is a high school algebra teacher. Been doing it for 10+ years. Absolutely hates it now.
Parent’s are being catered to, to the point where they consistently complain to the school at the notion that their children have to be held accountable for their children’s own actions.
She just dealt with a student who got herself thrown in jail. Her parents actually believe their daughter shouldn’t have to be held accountable for any of the school work she missed.
And these types of issues are beyond rampant now. Responsibility is a pastime that nobody will remember except in the annals of history.
What does the parent expect?? That she auto passes the kid because she went to jail?? What foolishness.
Everyone is talking about low productivity but what did one full time job award you with a few decades ago? A house, a car, a holiday, a family. The compensation from working a full time job no longer gives the bare minimum.
and the momment these companies start going under they ask and get assistance from the goverment... capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich
That’s called fascism, the rich get that treatment because they are essentially part of the government. It’s the same as funding a government department that loses money/fails despite its productivity
This is the truest thing I've read.
No, it's just corporate "capitalism" all around. It's protecting itself from collapsing, purely self interest, maintain the status quo and keep the lower classes fighting each other. Pretty much the exact opposite of what socialism would aim to do.
Other way around in most cases.
@@lorecow88 socialism is when bad lmao
"The last few years haven't been easy on anyone."
Now, now. Rich people have had it great. And as far as they are concerned, that's all that matters.
I blame governments for corporate welfare. I don’t blame the actions that it takes to become financially wealthy. The accumulation of capital at an individual level is still not the same as the siphoning of generated resources into the political class for politicians and their governmentalities in sectors of industry. Capital accumulation is one of the only real forms of leverage non-political people have to establish their own independence from these established institutions: and if voting truly worked as a form of collective bargaining for the individual that somehow wouldn’t devolve into collective complacency thereby setting the individual back, then it would have by now.
Yep, it's in their agenda to squeeze out the middle class and slowly turn us all into worker slaves or UBI dependents while they rake in record profits. Jeffrey Bezos is pretty happy right now.
Exactly
Absolutely love that people who aren't rich are pretending like they know the inner workings of a rich man's mind😂
Don't get me wrong, I despise greedy assholes that have enough money to help the world but don't -but pretending like you know for an absolute FACT how this man feels and thinks and what he believes is....a whole other level of ignorance and pretentiousness.
Productivity increasing by 200% and pay only increasing by like 10% over the years isn't an issue but when productivity goes down by 20% its all of a sudden a huge issue. Sorry that I couldn't help you get a two story yacht and you only had to buy a one story little boat for 800.000 while Im struggling to survive on an above average wage.
Watching videos like this with asmon is always a gamble. He usually has good takes but sometimes he gets so close to realizing something and then he just misses the mark. Like taking government assistance away very well might bring more people in to work, but that is 100% missing the point. People dont want to work anymore because these companies treat you like garbage and pay you nothing. How about companies pay more than dirt and we get some more workers rights, because I guarantee that will bring more people back to work and they will be HAPPY to do it because they can actually do something with their life and they know they have protections if things go south. Forcing people to get jobs under threat of death, just to have those jobs completely destroy you while paying you next to nothing, will only make the situation worse in the long run. In the 60s and 70s it was not unheard of for literal grocery baggers to support an entire family comfortably by themselves and the go on to retire as MILLIONAIRES because of employee stock options. Now you cant even get a studio apartment by yourself if youre a bagger because you make too little to qualify for the right to live somewhere.
Did you miss the part where he said gov should provide MORE social support? That people working shitty jobs should be empowered so that they can either quit those jobs, or demand better pay and treatment?
You really think ‘company’ set how much you get pay? It is all market value. If a job is easily replaceable, why would you get paid more? I actually think asmon has more logical vision and clear view on values than most people who hold advance degrees. By the way, based on your words, you had never deal with low skill workers.
Yea he just misses the mark sometimes. Like when he talks about jan 6 and trump 😂
alright shaggy
Low skilled jobs get low hourly rates. Go learn a skill or trade. Working as a cashier or flipping burgers isnt a career.
Asmongold is such a gamer that him reacting to an economic discussion is #29 trending for gaming
Well depending on your viewpoint, the economy pretty much is a game. It’s like monopoly in real life. We’re all competing to see who does best, and there will be people mad at that statement, but those are the people with no ambition that have either given up or are just content with where they’re at. Not everyone likes competitive games, some just like triple A cookie cutter games where you lay there like a potato and don’t need to think. 😂
Dunkey called it perfectly when he said that Asmon doesn't even play games
@@Aubatronlife’s just a video game 😢🗿😞
Been on CZcams since I was a kid and I’ve never once looked at the trending tab. Who goes there besides boomers and Gen A
@nehemiahjuan950 which video? I vaguely remember this
This is how every CEO speaks when at dinner with best friends
No stop the slander. Just 85%
Property managers complaining about people not working is actually the saddest most ironic capitalist reality. lmfao
what US people call "quite quitting" ... in europe we call that "work"
Even this guys hairline is taking a step back from this statement
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...well done sir i salute u
Can't wait for AI to automate the high level decision making jobs. I'm sure the C suite will lose their minds when their particular skill set is outsourced to a computer.
@nightshadesalad you seem kinda ignorant
Lmao great comment
Classic
Australian, what a surprise. People in this country have become so robotic and all about the numbers they've forgotten what it is to be human. Many times I've seen how people get treated in the workplace here. It's a country going into the gutter because of mindsets like this.
There was always this kind of people
Tale as old as time
You say that because that place has become more and more a comunist country? Do you remember the "pandemic" how they trated their citizens? Almost like China...
Yall did the craziest lock downs. Abducting ppl and shit
Australia is owned by China
People just want to be appreciated. They want to feel like what they're doing matters. They probably don't even care if it directly contributes to society (though some certainly do), they just want to know that someone cares. When they're overworked, underpaid, and meant to feel replaceable, it's no wonder they break down. People aren't machines.
And techno-feudals of course want to yell louder at breaking workers, and threaten them even more by higher unemployment. Smort.
When people tell me that things can't last forever or at least multiple decades, I just think of a nice lightbulb in a fire station...
Except not everything in this world is like that lightbulb, but feel free to keep thinking about that nice little lightbulb. Because there's going to be a day where you'll see just how misguided you really are.
insane a real human being thinks like this.
@@SeverianofNessus The opinions of people like them don't matter. Saddest thing is they think they do.
"It's on the government to fix the problems" but they are bought by the companies. We need to get money out of politics.
There's only one solution and it involves violence. Kindly asking the people in power to stop oppressing us hasn't seemed to work, huh funny isn't it?
The government created everything that is wrong with the economy. Increasing wages does NOTHING AT ALL> Government spending increases Inflation, that increases prices, which mean wage increases are needed, rinse repeat. GOVERNEMTN SPENDING LEAD TO THIS.
Wtf are you talking about? Money literally can't be taken out of politics. How is the government supposed to operate without the money to pay it's enforcers with?
U know that will never happen. Reality is often disappointing.
They’re not bought by the companies, they’re in bed with the companies. Both the state and corpos work together to make themselves richer and the “plebs” poorer. Which is ironically what socialism advocates for… handouts from daddy gov/corpos
billionaires need to be reminded that respawn is restricted on this server.
Do it, I bet you won't.
Good luck with that, they are perfectly aware that there are many people who think the same way. That's why these gentlemen don't live in the same neighborhoods with their employees and have an extensive security round the clock.
@@egorkoshevoy6694 I just love the solution being to double down on being a dipshit instead of like. Not being the bastards that everyone hates them for being.
I suspect more money is spent punishing and mitigating the influence of the poor than it is actually helping them.
@@brofist1959 don't tempt us
Call the Chinese government and ask then to seize all the assets they probbably have in China.
Speaking of janitors and garbage men, I am a janitor. I have to be at work tomorrow morning at 6am. I hate my job. It's not that I don't want to work. It's that I don't want to do any of the jobs I am qualified to do. I would love to instead write novels, make video games and write music instead. But I have no talent in any of these things and suck at them all. I am too old to go to college and I can't afford it anyway. So I am stuck doing a job I hate. I would quit in a heartbeat if I could. I would gladly do nothing if I could.
and yet they would happily say "to learn a skill!11" to you, like all people permanently 18 y.o. and talent dont play any role in competition.
Oh, and teachers, scientists and other long-term-goal workers "dont fit in the market"
idk since when people become so willing to justify atrocities.
Half the people claiming to be "abused at work" think being asked to do their job and be on time is "abuse"
This fool needs to remember who makes his business run. I doubt this guy could do a fraction of what is needed to run his own business.
That's the thing: he doesn't consider his employees people. In his eyes, they are peons whose existence has one sole point: working for the actual people, the upper class. If they don't do that, they shouldn't even exist, because what's their use? Them cutting into his profits for better living standards is just ridiculous. They have enough money to survive, and peons aspiring for anything more than that is just nonsense. This mentality is the exact reason why we need democratically elected governments be higher up in the foodchain than corporations. To provide a, even if flawed, system of checks and balances. Because is they corpo heads could, they would bring back slave labor worldwide in a heartbeat.
@@otakugamer616 What actual work does he do, though?
@@blasianking4827 Apparently he does property renovations. He managed to afford his first one by following 2 easy steps: 1 - not spending $40 a day on Avocado toast like those damned millenials and 2 - being given a small loan of $200k from his grandfather & boss to pay for the entire thing
He makes more than you do 🤣
@@ThisWorldIsASoulTrap Who is going to make your plough to farm with?
Just to remind everyone, these guys who are at the top are experts in sweating out the deal table. These are guys who will say things like, “I’m making loads of money and I’m swamped with back orders, so why should I sell to you?” And in the meantime, they’re losing money hand over fist, and they have teams of people looking for orders. This is the unemployment situation; I promise you. They will sit you down and say the position is not critical and you will only be a burden on the company, meanwhile they know they can’t afford for you to walk. But because they are so good at negotiating, they will laugh you out the door when you demand higher wages. They are banking on you being desperate. Don’t fall for it.
Man, that takes me back to my last job, where we had an absolutely atrocious boss everyone hated. One guy I was friends with got fed up and decided to resign and try his luck elsewhere… and this boss, I kid you not, tried to sit him down in a meeting and convince him he was so terrible that he was more or less a charity case and nobody else would even look at him.
Obviously, my friend was as unimpressed and left anyway, and we all just had to shake our heads and laugh at how crazy a tactic it was.
@@Tinandel That’s a good story. I didn’t plop onto this planet to do laundry for a paycheck.
@@Tinandel I had a really shitty boss try a similar tactic with me. I hired on through a staffing company, and once the trial period was over, he completely changed into an absolute sociopath (constantly belligerent, making nonstop racist remarks, always threatening to cut my pay). After a few months I had enough and decided to quit, and he tried telling me I was one of the worst workers he had ever hired, that he would be sure to let the staffing company know, and that I was making the worst decision of my life. Well turns out he had already been telling the staffing company nothing but good things about me during the trial period, so they were confused when he came at them with that nonsense afterwards. They had no problem helping me find another job. About a week after I quit, he had several different guys who were still working there call me to try and convince me to come back to work for them (while on speaker phone with him listening in). Obviously, I refused.
These guys will do any and everything to try and persuade you into doing what they want.
Power is one of the reasons employers are forcing people to physically come back to the office even though they can do all their work from home.
A big reason restaurants and fast food places where continuously close in the pandemic was someone on a shift got covid everyone on that shift was off schedule till they gave negative tests. So Dave in the morning has a cough and John in the evening is sneezing that's 2 full shifts out for at least 3 days. The coffee chain my girlfriend worked at had mandatory in person meetings for shift leads and above. Guess what happens when you put an entire stores management in one place at one time during the height of a pandemic?
Alright im gonna say my opinion for those who did not get their opportunity to see these paterns yet: We simply need to listen and tolerate and not have "leaders" with all the money and power be so shortsighted using only spreadsheets in their never ending quest for more money this quarter than last quarter... They are so out of the loop and rich none of these issues reach them and they close their eyes, don't care, invest in things they are clueless about and some might even be getting it and pulling us toward there cuz that did not happen overnight... (id say it got bad after WW2 and the new consumer market (planned obsolescence etc.) and not much social developement compared to technological advancement since liberty charts and women equality imo) And all the mental health issues getting worse, the gaslight meta and the weaponization of the woke sentiment for disinformation that benefits the few while the rest scream pretty much the same thing not realising they saying the same thing. I now hate the woke term even though i never was racist or anything like that... But now it seems to be a term for "bad show with that political view being the center piece of your totally not rugpulled entertainement." You don't like ? just stop being racist. Easy money. Just tick some boxes.
HealthyGamerGG is a nice mental health ressource here on youtube, dr.k changed my life !
Upper Echelon is trying to spread awareness about lots of things very good stuff.
I have a nice piece of quote i found on spotify (Otep, Heavy metal): "It makes little sense that a band that believes in love, equality, strength, respect and unity should be regarded as Radicals. But right now, in this backwards world, voices as passionate and truthful as Otep Shamaya's are few and far between."
We CAN make a difference and it seems it will happen soon... We need to come together and make a wave of information ! GLHF
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Symbiosis (hunter/traveller/farmer) (HealthyGamerGG
careful optimism value (utopia not today but can make tomorrow better even just a bit)
Reevaluate the way we compensate work (some snowflakes make bigger impact, some want more, passionate etc.)
We all fit here and there is enough for everyone, we all brothers and sister after all born without a choice or a clue with tools and environement you have...
Instead of the current system where a couple ppl thrive and lead the world without using all our ressources, a lot of us are clueless in pain and misery. (ofc shades of grey and majority somewhere less extreme)
Awareness is the easy way, we just need to get this started (it's scales like those other schemes...) as soon as the more ready to hear this get more information, i believe the passionate will hear the call and stop sleeping until it is done. Be careful bros ! get some sleep pills if ya need it ;)
-- trust and make research for biological computers that trained themselves willingly already .... The comparison will be weird in spreadsheets but there is so much more that cannot be seen in such system. (value of sentient being with emotions having access to this information...)
If we actally learn to work together, we can all thrive instead of .... This.
I have my piece of the puzzle, feels much needed (no wonder i can't sleep till it's done, im willing and thriving here) BUT we need the symbiosis to start working b4 it's too late.
We might not have spreadsheets on it yet, but we very much see the impacts today (and much b4 that) of the "exclusive society money trip" on the long term, with ppl like me born here and becoming like this... Treat us like zombie and most of us will become undead, but murphy's law and the "unforeseen by charts that only see the past and can't help with this till it's done" longterm impacts on society... One human is complicated enough, 2 in a relationship well who can't say it's get complicated ! Now the scale at which we have grown and mondialization/tech/internet... No wonder it get complex ! Really is time we start using our human side and learn to all thrive for real !
AS a smite gamer for 10 years with 6k+ hours in it and my own semi-toxic relationship with this game: The devs are wise and they are already tapping into the human side and biological computer AND communicate with the mess that is internet rn ! They do it with a "new tech hybrid model" fs but larian seems to have been sitting on a goldmine for a while as well even though I only have these to praise rn, there IS a place to share your subjective view no matter what it is and maybe get helped (FR NO BS) or change the world (or any shades of grey in between)
When you look deeper on anything you start to find that variables can all fit together with a lot of other RELATED things... Rocket scientist surely have some insigts about the logic side of this, but we can start to look about the emotions and all the things unseen with charts and computers... The biological computer is the key imo.
Lots of insights from a logic-empathy approach imo.
It's like a smith that choose only one tool and try to bend all the others into shape wondering why they are dysfunctional...
Like saying this is my favorite tool it's the most efficient when i use it and then i make emotionless spreadsheets about how it works... Forcing everyone to agree and not listening... The first thing that we need is to talk, listen, unite... "Victory together" is very wise indeed. Damn im canadian btw \!
I'm in the tech industry, and the layoffs are actually scary. It's insane how many people were let go just in my company. We are extremely short staffed for the amount of work we have now.
Never overwork. It's not worth it. If you are in tech, like me, you should have enough money saved, good portfolio/job history and skillset/experience to not worry about being unemployed.
@@anonimowelwiatko4455 Yeah, what this guy is saying, it's just not worth it. I burned myself out only to get laid off and despised tech and was unable to work for quite a while from all of that. Thankfully the savings I had have kept me afloat as I'm transitioning back to working, but it's not worth destroying your health over it ever.
@@Joe-no7gsthose are not everywhere in the tech industry.
This RIGHT HERE is why no company gets my loyalty. If the company is gonna treat me as just a number in a spreadsheet somewhere, I'm going to treat them exactly the same and not feel one iota of guilt about it.
@@USS_Sentinel thats how it supposed to be, company is just your customer. You sell your service, they pay for it. You are not supposed care for them and they are not supposed to care for you. It's a mutual trade, not a family relationship lol.
Rent, gas, and groceries are all costing me more than they ever have. And yet, my job sits here paying the same shit amount. And my bosses wonder why we have so much turnover
Companies need to know that the job market should also be competitive
What you said about building shit to break is so true. Old water heaters and house heaters were built to last. I still work on ones from the 50s, 60s.... the new ones are shit. But they design them that way, so you have to go back and buy a new one every so many years.
I think it’s also due to companies using cheaper material. It wasn’t an issue til we started moving manufacturing overseas.
@@TacticalDimples its a number of things.
there is a financial incentive to cut material costs as much as is viable.
We have gotten good enough at making things that it's easier to design them cheaply and avoid over engineering in order to get something that will last "just long enough" very, very reliably.
The one time I'd support planned obsolecense is if the company is consistently upgrading their products, making them more efficient and cost-effective for the consumer, and is incentivizing existing consumers to upgrade via discounts and whatnot. Almost all the time, however, this isn't the case.
Maybe we shouldn't build factories that only do one thing. Dumbest thing ever.
I've got a university degree but work as a cleaner in the Netherlands. Eventhough cleaning is pretty boring and dumb work, I really enjoy doing it. I get to talk to all kinds of people, I am pretty fit because I'm exercising all day, and have loads of free time. I'm not sure if things are different in the States, but I could, if I wanted to, just recieve benefits and sit home all day, but I just too much enjoy working. Asmon has some pretty good points, but I think his view on human nature is a little bit cynical. Sure, there are lazy people, however, most of them are not.
I think if you work in a field where such work is outright required and not manufactured to fill soemone's pockets, people tend to be more in the direct contact with the maintenance of the matertial reality which underlies our world, not distant from it as many medium-level cognitive jobs imply. Freedom is free-time, and health. One could be waste managing for 4 hours a day in a sensitive world, and be working on a literary masterpiece at home. Assuming all jobs are essential and all shifts are smartly distributed.
His view is very American, which says something about American culture
so weird to be labeled as obsessed with money and wealth when my only real daily obsessions are getting to my job from the roof over my head, not going hungry day by day, and not dying from my chronic medial condition. Maybe it says more that those ARE my daily obsessions though@@LalaDepala00
No, people are inherently lazy. You enjoy work good for you,but most people aren’t, and given chance they will not work at all.
@@LalaDepala00 > Because doing nothing all day and having no disposable income (wellfare isn't a goldmine) is not the life most people want.
While I agree with this statement broadly speaking, this does not prove that people want to work. It simply proves that people want to have something to do and have access to resources. "Something to do" is not the same as "work".
> Boredom of not doing anything is something that the majority of people can't handle.
While this is true, we have things like Netflix, the internet and games. I know enough NEETs to confirm that even when they're depressed to hell and back, there are quite a few people who are perfectly willing to sabotage themselves out of sheer laziness or unwillingness to get along with society. Just because there are people who want to work and can't, and are depressed, doesn't mean that there aren't people who don't want to work and are depressed.
And before any "society rejected them, bla bla bla", no, the NEETs I know are pretty complacent and content to be NEETs because they're in a position of life to enjoy luxuries they care about and not give a shit.
> Is there a small minority of people who will always try to clown the system out of ill intent? Ofcourse. That is why wellfare needs restrictions and checks and balances.
Sure, but we don't know the numbers and we certainly don't know how else to get people to actually participate and not be NEETs.
> If you think noone wants to work, because that is inherintly how humans are, you have a weird understanding of human nature.
I think they've got a more cynical view of human nature, but they're not wrong. You could even argue that you've got too idealistic a view of human nature, and that wouldn't be wrong either.
People are pretty darn lazy. There are people who are really hardworking, people who think they're hardworking, and people like me who open up work once or thrice a week for an hour or two and then do other stuff, and then finally people lazier than I. I wouldn't use the terms "majority" as boldly because we don't really know if it's a majority of people. You can do a productivity chart, sure, and you could try to apply the law of averages, but "lazy" and "willing to work" are two very, very different metrics.
Personal view: People are lazy, but generally speaking willing to work. It's hard to determine the value of a lot of "work" because let's be real here, it's easier to figure out the value of a cabbage to people than the value of anime tits.
What people forget, when they talk about 600.000 dollar homes, is that you don't have to live in the centre of a metropolis. You can just as well live in suburbs and travel by train/car/bike (and if Murica does not offer these options it is about time to change that, because if you do work simple jobs, guess what, you don't have a right to a fancy luxury appartment. It is true that people are underpaid in many places at the moment, but there is also a bunch of people who overvalue themselves, their worth and what they deserve in life
People arnt talking about owning super fancy homes. it something for a single person, and even that is becoming exceedingly expensive to the point where as a single person you gotta roommate up
@@ac04project but only if you insist on living in big cities
I worry for small businesses in this climate. Super anecdotal but I’ve work for two small businesses in the past few years and inflation is stunting growth so badly. The cost of all supplies and goods is up as well as hard to procure on top of workers needing more money to make a living wage. Nevermind the fact that as inflation rises, consumers aren’t spending as expected.
This all boils down to Walmart being just fine and anyone trying to pull off the American dream totally screwed.
Worst part of it all is when you see it, you gotta react. Guess it’s back to corporate life for the foreseeable future
Then buy from small buisnesses and boicot this big companies (only as much and if you can). It may not be suficient but it's something.
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@@Rodolfo17987 das stimmt.
its because of government, they literally work with corporations and use tax payer money to help them out while completely ignoring small businesses. At the same time they are causing inflation and creating debt. That gives certain large corporations unfair advantages in the market.. it's basically fascism. Remember back in 1900 when we had capitalism there used to be 100 different brands of stores in a small city? Now there's only Walmart, Target, Casco and few other big brands, all the small local stores are dead.
working class --> middle class --> upper class
renter --> Homeowner --> Asset Hoarder
stick (homelessness) --> Carrot (ownership
They started treating homes as assets and hoarded them all. They ate all the carrots and only have the stick left.
Don't worry all we need is more Taxes! It helped before! Look at property taxes now the rich can't just own all the lan...oh...nvm...just the poors can't own land now.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151you can forcibly take the rich peoples wealth abd redistribute it and remove all of the tax cuts for the past 40 years. Problem solved
There are 16 million vacant homes in america, they just arent affordable
with more and more jobs being automated and a lot of them becoming useless, humanity has to go from "everyone has to work" to "working is prestige", meaning paying some amount of money to every person they can survive for, but having to work to live a better life and afford luxuries. Otherwise, there will be a catastrophe
We are at this point because of decades of deliberately engineered catastrophes already. Today's economy is also a deliberate stage of the plan.
What you say you want here has been propagandized into your head.
Everyone can't be a millionaire nor can there be 0 percent unemployment.
Funny how these days you can end up being a "grim reminder" even by getting a degree that takes 4 years of your life and a huge debt but still leave you with nothing employers would want to pay you for.
University courses and a lot of teachers are completely out of touch with society. Also, we have too many classical universities and there's as much jobs for all students. Either way they need to create courses that are more generalists or more technical courses, because not every job needs someone from a university. Some people could expend 2 years learning something that is directly useful and maybe even get paid/earning more than someone studying 5.
I want to iterate that I am coming from a European perspective and not so much an American one.
I work with IT, Automation and technological research regarding assembly and production lines.
I'm not afraid of getting fired, and I absolutely adore my job. I have flexible work hours, so I can choose to work more hours one day, to leave early another, assuming projects are following and respecting the planned time schedule.
I _am_ afraid of losing my job, because I enjoy what I do, I am good at it, and it pays well, my colleagues are champs and my boss is fair.
I would much rather work under this structure, being happy to go to work every day, than I would go to work fearing for my economic stability.
The insanity he is presenting is what leads to stagnation in a society, as people fear developing themselves, as doing so risks losing what they have, and what they have they feel bound to, to survive.
I'm from Europe as well and all that 'work life balance' a lot of times means do almost nothing with zero skills and huge expectations. I work as engineer in maintenence and people that come to work here are just extremely lazy and lack any skill or will to learn. Even young people that start their path. And I'm fucking 28, I'm not some boomer crying that it was better 99 years ago. The worst part are people that prefer to work lower paid jobs to avoid any responsibility, learning. And then they cry that their labor jobs are shit. It's literally 1 in 10 people that do their actual job, and I'm not even talking about their skills in mechanics/robotics/electronics cause not everyone is good at everything.
We recruited around 15 people in less than 3 years and 2 of them are actual plus to the company. Maybe like 3 were doing their job when you told them what to do and literally watch over everyone. And rest is : 1.Idiots that think are smarter than everyone, big talkers but small actual knowledge and skills 2. Actual people that know nothing and can't fit the work. 3. Pussy, zero ambition, scared adult kids, that thinks that they should be treated like king of the world and paid like CEO because he finished uni like 70% of their age. I hate this once the most cause young people weren't so disconnected few years back.
he is just pointing out common sense, if it was harder to find jobs you would be more desperate to keep a job and agree to lower wages. But to do that we have to bankrupt a lot of companies, because capitalists prevent this from happening by creating too much demand for workers, I think if the government regulated companies more and caused bankruptcies, raised taxes and minimum wage they could achieve this high unemployment rate
then start your own company , yeah i know it is hard but with all that knowledge you might be able do it.
@@marcusmeins1839 And what would they gain from it? Other than lots of stress. Being your own boss is quite often pointless. As a boss you have more responsibilities and simply can't do certain things, and if he likes what he does now then that's bad. They likely won't be able to get their colleagues to go with them so on top of being uncertain if they'll have enough money to actually start of the business and eat meals at the same time, they'll have to deal with a bunch of people that may not be fit for the job or just be unpleasant. So can we just please stop telling me to start their own stuff? Guy didn't even ask for tips or whatever.
@@hakayonder3396 well there isn't much the OP can't do and ther rest of us are in the same situation too .either you pray for not being fired by the company you are working for because they can fire you at any moment , or you become a freelancer (which makes you a the owner of a small business/company somehow) . nobody can't escape from this.
More of those assembly line job were sent overseas than were automated, this started back in the 70s and really ramped up in the late 90s/early 2000s when globalism became a goal for the US politicians.
The business is lucky to have employees now. Businesses used to offer benefits, good pay, and flexible hours. I know people who would brag about their job, and people who would be envious of others for where they work. Now every job basically offers a paycheck and nothing else. We cam get that anywhere.
Why would you believe anything a sociopath has to say? You can safely assume his intentions are nefarious.
Just because you labeled someone sociopath, doesn’t mean they are.
@@haihengh I didn't label anyone a sociopath.
If you're talking about truth and reality, then no. No, you can't assume nefarious intent. Sociopathy is a lack of engagement of emotion and guilt centers in the brain, more or less. It does not inherently mean that their goals must be harmful to others. Sherlock Holmes, at least the BBC version, explicitly described himself as a high-functioning sociopath. This was after someone called him a psychopath in response to observing him look for evidence and clues rather than be extremely bothered by the recent body of the week.
@@Thalanox Well I am talking about truth and reality. Here is another example. You begin by implying that I must be detached from reality if I believe my own opinions. A bit of gaslighting with an insult. You then give a rosy characterization of what a sociopath is. This, of course, is to minimize the severity of the condition while simultaneously trying to humanize the behavior, or lack of emotions, of the sociopath. The Sherlock Holmes anecdote is not compelling to me in any way. It is fiction. Need I say more? I do not have the desire to risk myself harm by giving sociopaths the benefit of the doubt. They rely on that to manipulate others. Anyone who is in the dark triad should be avoided. They should be made to wear a letter on their clothing to alert the public of what they truly are. Your name even sounds like an evil villain.
If you knew someone was a sociopath and said something true, like, you should eat vegetables and take vitamin supplements, then you will dismiss any all words?
This take is wrong imo. Employee engagment and stock value are correlated. Not just in tech. The toyotta way as applied to lean manufacturing has been very successful. Yes automation will continue but the ones figuring it out are the employees who are engaged and care. They are also the ones driving it when they like their job and want to contribute as much as they can. Not the short term quarterly profit obsessed owners or investors.
Those people literally work to make themselves easily replaceable.
There has also been a breakdown between employers and employees, there used to be a bond there and technology has broken that, it used to be you go and talk to either the manager or a hiring person assigned by the manager and now it is you fill out a form online that if you don’t say the correct keywords you get auto trashed, which is part of the reason why all the people who are looking for jobs can’t get them
The market will sort out the value of an employee, if the government would stop interfering and causing the problems. When wage gets to low it makes more sense to work for yourself, it is government welfare, both individual and corporate bailouts and tax gymnastics that allows people to be paid other then market value.
Sometimes I'm just like " I should learn how to survive in a forest with the bear minimum just in case "
More work? No thank you I'm already swamped with things to do, work literally prevents me from living my life.
I am so interested and yet so upset in subjects like this. Kind of a grim reminder of the reality we live in.
Me too, man. All of what I've been consuming in the last week is vital, and incredibly valuable to know as much as all of it turns my stomach.
I keep saying this. The endgame isnt lower class getting higher global basic income. Its gonna be highclass figuring out a way to get rid of everyone that isnt making them money by working or spending.
Iv watched more robots leave my assembly line than be added in 10 years. I think it’s because if someone gets hurt you can throw another body on the job but when a robot breaks it takes hours to fix. With a 20k+ profit loss per minute my employer seems to prefer the former over the latter.
Plus, they need someone that is qualified enough to repair them which is usually a very high paying job that they could cut to pay like 2-3 line workers.
I love it when these people pretend to be self-made with a hand out from a rich family member 🤣 talk about arrogance
The aristocracy never went away, it just rebranded and intensified its grip on society.
And smaller ones who got starter capital by dirty means, but they always talks about how good is system and how they love it... so much that you have to cheated it to jump into upper class. Classic. When honest people without rich family, can work super professionally for all life and didnt make even faction of that money.
@@CorporateG0th and come up with better gaslighting strategy than "God told that is how society must be organized"
Assuming that as the default (not this guy) is absolutely ridiculous though. The absolute majority of rich people are self-made. Handouts from rich family are not that common. Actually there is so called "third-generation curse" as less than 10% of family wealth survives the transition to the third generation.
Hence you will never see say academics, researchers, or engineers who made field contributions etc. among them. It will always be some fast talking, flippant personality with a Jim Cramer vibe who always gives affirmative responses and starts giving sketch answers 30 seconds into asking for specifics, or having them field basic questions about their area. This is why in those investment circles you'll rarely see subject matter experts, and mostly just investors with no domain knowledge - the sales scammers are very conscious of smearing and excluding them so that they don't give away the game. But granted they're socially hyperactive and they'll do anything to weasel their way into people's wallets, do some mental gymnastics to rationalize their investment fraud as legitimate, and then move on to the next mark.
My grandfather lost his job in a factory making metal chains (partially by hand and with the aid of a metal press) some 40 or 50 years ago. Presumably to an automated factory somewhere else in the world.
People say they want fulfillment and money from a job, but they don't. Sure they desire these things, but what they actually act on, is convenience and perceived financial security.
If people truly believed in seeking fulfillment and money, there'd be a lot more people trying the entrepreneur route and starting their own business, putting their true ability to provide value in a monetizable manner to the test. Because that's where true fulfillment and real money is at, but people only desire this in their mind, when the baseline convenience and security is covered. What people act on is far more telling than what people think and idealize. People suck up to employers because they want security of food on the table and paid bills every month. And they want the convenience of being able to do this, without having to truly think for themselves and work out value propositions and doing business deals on their own. Being an employee is the convenience on having to just act as told, rather than think and take risk.
This is why I also agree with Asmon on the idea that at the baseline, it would be better if there wasn't an incentive for people to work shitty jobs in the first place, because it harms both the people and the employers because the value exchange is based on convenience and perceived security, rather than actual value and fulfillment and dedication to whatever craft/skill they're being paid to provide.
I think instead of minimum base income, the first step imo should be to introduce government-backed minimum quantity of core goods like food and health items, that every citizen is entitled to no matter their life situation.
People will always desire more. They will desire fulfillment and money to unlock options that are wants, rather than needs. This is human nature. So jobs would never cease to exist, the economy wouldn't collapse because people would still be motivated to seek more wealth than what a basic necessities coverage would provide. People would want a nicer apartment, a bigger tv, a longer vacation, more tools in their garage, the list goes on. All that this baseline needs coverage would do, is push the value incentive above bare minimum -which is good because it's the act of being below bare minimum that introduces the biggest issues in society such as depression, anxiety, crime, and lack of motivation. Real motivation, to be a human being that exists to live, rather than living to just exist.
I mean, desperate people make better slaves yes, I definitely agree with this absolutely evil logic of his. But at the same time there is a fundamental reason why society has consistently progressed against people like him, folks don't like slavery, feudalism and overall unfairness we never did.
It's so weird seeing Asmon talk about this in any other way than "yeah, of course starving slaves will work harder, but you're a fucking sociopath".
@@Shinius And the only reason we don't have feudalism and slavery is because they aren't financialy viable, not because they are unethical. That 'sociopath' bit is just your opinion and opinions of peasants are worthless since they aren't backed up by force. Speaking about opinions is pointless and amounts to nothing, that is why Asmon doesn't. It astonishes me every time people speak like slavery/etc was ended because "it was bad, mkay kids" and not because profit paradigm had shifted which caused powers that be to construct a propaganda campaign of "it was bad, mkay" to support the economical change through social field as auxilary. This naivetie is baffling.
The argument regarding that employees would just not care too much about their work if they couldn't get fired is absolutely sound. An example would be USA cops with qualified immunity, since they can't be held liable most of the time and at worst they get a paid vacation, they don't necessarily care to do their jobs properly. Most governmental agencies across the world, from what I noticed, have a somewhat similar system and productivity and service is correspondingly bad.
If you can be fired for any reason you are not going to value employment. I didn't want to work there anyway attitude. The threat of unemployment is weak. Employees don't care to work when they are not appreciated.
@@g9ames I kind of feel the same way about my job but at the same time I need the money. The threat of unemployment isn't quite so easy to ignore.
@@g9ames People who need money value employment even if they can get fired for any reason.
@@g9amesWhat are you talking about? When you're actually making money and you have a mortgage and a car payment, of course the threat of unemployment is strong! You have to keep making money to pay off debts, you can't simply lower your standards because you'll be left with nothing. This effect is compounded if you're married with children, because they also have to be cared for, which means you need a job.
Come back to reality.
And those of us who dont live above our means have 0 reason to stay in a bad place. In my country we have labor force shortage, wages rise over 10% per year and the result is companies have lost their competetive advantage because they have to keep on rising salaries.
It's not the government's responsibility to solve people's problems. It's the person's responsibility to solve their own problem.
It's the government's job to not create more problems for their population like inflation from overspending.
The only problems the government should be solving are related to safety and security.
It's not just about people's economic contributions to society vs their cultural worth. I've been managing a career change from construction to IT and I'm now 6 years into what could have been a 4 year course because I've had to sacrifice study time to maintain an livable income.
If the structure didn't constrain me in such a way, I could have moved on into something I want to be doing vs something I have to do to survive and potentially open up the opportunity for someone else to do work they actually want to do.
They really couldn't find anyone less trustworthy looking than that guy
TLDR: Workers and bosses can have a parasitic or symbiotic relationship with one another.
Some workers wants to hold all the cards, some bosses want all the cards.
The best shit is only going to get done when both sides trust each other and believe they're being treated fairly.
No, it will only get done when the fucking Government goes away and so we can have a capitalist society again.
That is simply not possible in a capitalist system of the economy. In a system wherein the only motivation to work in for profit and wealth, the relationship between the two is simple and unchangable. The employer wishes to pay the least for the most amount of work, the employee wishes to get payed the most for the least amount of work. Would you rather work the same job for 15 dollars an hour, or 20 dollars an hour? Similarly, would your boss rather pay you 15 dollars an hour, or 20? Unless you abolish the profit motive, their is no instance wherein the relationship between bosses and workers can be ‘symbiotic.’
@@aalmarashi628of course workers want to get paid more , the cost of living raises every years.. but the salary doesn't follow as it should , that most crucial factor in play, no one wants to do under paid jobs.. but somehow they are all as important in society. So what we do.. pay more ? That would be a first.
@@aalmarashi628 Your way of thinking is flawed. If you remove the profit gains from both parts or some similar negotiation between them, you either have a dictatorial regime where people have to work to not be killed or be stripped from welfare (owner gets cut, governments takes over), or they don't work at all with each other, either they leave the country or mind their own lives and not do anything for others.
The focus should be on making some middle ground where both can have benefits, not chasing extremes where society either colapses or turns into a dictator regime.
@@budoshi1981 Because we don't have money anymore. What you think is money is actually just fiat currency, it's not the same that existed 100 years ago. With no limitation of how much the state can print, the result is finite things(like real state) will skyrocket in value and wages paid with fiat currencies will increase numerically but will not get more value, because if there's no limit on how much the state can print, the total of fiat is increasing faster than your wages. And that creates a double incentive as well, because people are not dumb, they see money losing value, and they see properties retaining and gaining value, and they will react to it.
The worst point is that people can not see that. The huge government debts, the very low rates that incentive people to take even more debt, the fiat not based on anything scarce, it all creates that huge disparity/distortion and it keeps increasing... Modern politicians treat our currency/their budget like it was nothing (like if our wages and their budget were not linked), and the worse is that the public can not see that politicians that care and tries to keep the debt lower as a good thing, it's the opposite, people like politicians that expend like crazy, that make huge debts, that increase our money supply to the point people can not even afford a house anymore, politicians that expend now and don't care about the future are rewarded more than politicians that don't expend more than we should.
It's funny how I learned this from A Bugs Life in '98, when I was still in grade school.
Hopper does this with the ants on Ant Island the whole movie, til they rebelled.
His speech even said as such.
"You let one ant stand up, they all might stand up.
Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1, and if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.
It's not about food, it's about keeping those ants in line."
"Capitalism bad because people in power do immoral things to maintain power, but that won't happen when we're in charge." "Source?" "Trust me bro."
I agree with a lot of what asmon says here but the reality is we are no where close to automating a vast majority of jobs. Like garbage man, teacher, even fast food worker.
We are generations away from that. Not saying it won’t happen. But there’s a lot we need to figure out between now and then.
In the 70’s people thought we’d have flying cars by the year 2000. This is a similar situation.
Asmon saying "get the govt to fix it" is also asinine. It takes 2 seconds to realize our governments have be co-opted by big business, and they've used their influence and money to push pro-corporate candidates into office. You'd think he'd have more class consciousness since his entire audience are working class folks
"Level 3 autonomy is where the vehicle can perform dynamic driving without human intervention." "Mercedes-Benz has just announced that its SAE Level 3 autonomous driver assist system, DRIVE PILOT, has been certified to operate in the entire state of California, beginning with a couple of familiar models." We are at a point where cars drive themselves TODAY. Do you think automating a garbage truck is going to take "generations," the fact you think it will take multiple, a generation is "generally considered to be about 20-30 years."
Teachers can EASILY be automated with ChatGPT and software that actually understands the learner's attention span, aware whether it has lost it or not. I'd argue on the individual level, it's in the benefit of children, rather than being one of 30 students x 6 classes per day, how much 1 on 1 do you really get if your teacher has 180 students. A teacher doesn't even care. Here's your F, see you next year.
Fast food... seriously? Imagine telling McDonald's it's going to take them 40-60 years to replace their employees with automation. Oh wait. "McDonald’s New Big Mac ATM Requires Zero Human Interaction" They already did.
they have been saying self driving cars are imminent for like 20 years@@peek5548
nuts. full automation is just 1 generation away
@@aSmolGoth bruh? You think the driver isn’t controlling the lift? So the driver just sits there and eats Cheetos while it does it automatically? That isn’t how garbage trucks work in 2023.
This ain’t a video game where every asset is exactly where it should be, and accounted for.
If the container isn’t in the correct location, or is overfilled, or there’s a homeless person digging through it, or some other random issue the automation will need to compensate.
I promise you that shit ain’t easy.
Yes, employees work for the employer.. BUT employers used to make 30-40 times as much as the employees. NOW, they're making 400+ times as much. It's the wage gap. Asmon. That's what's missing from your analysis.🙏
just be a employer them... done.
Those profit numbers are wildly inaccurate
You just made up numbers
While your numbers aren’t accurate, the reason CEOs can make so much more than their employees now than before is because of the federal reserve. Why do companies buyback stocks? Because it increases their stock value, which is important because stock can be used as collateral/equity for loans. By inflating their stock price, they can get larger loans and since they get those loans from the FED, those loans are either at or near 0% interest. CEOs are also payed in stock as well, so buying back stock serves them personally as well as the company, which in turn continues to serve them personally
@@reinsmano To quote the late and great 'George Carlin': "It's a big club, and you ain't in it."
11:00 yea, that make a lot of sense. I pretty much can not get fired at my job. I show up 5-15 mins everyday while my boss scold me every once in a while....
Company’s are paying the taxes they are supposed to. The taxcode (that allows company’s to pay „so little“ compared to an individual) was written by people voted for by the public.
It'll be really interesting when sometime decides to try and automate head positions of a company just to see what happens.
Head of companies can and will automate middle management and hr as they are service positions AI can easily take over.
@@AimbotFreakHe's talking about replacing ceos or basically assholes like the one in the video for ai, they'll would be fine replacing everybody else for ai, but the moment THEIR position is threatened they'll start to complain ai is bad.
The thing that annoys me is where do they think this is going? You can't keep earning forever, and you can't automate and fire everyone. Why? Because at some point, you as a company will sit there with all the money. But you can't spend it because there is nobody selling or producing anything you want. You also can't sell anything anymore because when you fired everyone, you made them poor and homeless. They don't have money to spend on your product.
There will always be more shiny rocks to dig out of the dirt.
"That will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired." -Office Space
I'm a manager at a large chain company, and this is all absolutely right. It's such a balancing act between being a good leader people can respect and the disciplinary figure. Especially these days, young adults coming into their first serious job with benefits are so sensitive and the first sign of conflict they'll walk out. I don't want to be their babysitter but the vast majority of people I've managed have proven that even with a decent wage, and benefits, they will be as lazy as humanly possible even if it hinders them and makes the job harder for everyone in the long run.
Err, can't this be solved by clearly specifying all the work responsibilities (and requirements for their fulfillment) of the employee immediately after hiring? Many times I have heard workers called lazy and irresponsible for not following orders that go far beyond the agreed responsibilities for which people are paid, often completely without warning and not even close to their specialty. People don't get hired to be errand boys, at least not if it's not in the contract. People don't have to feel feudal loyalty to their company and try to take care of everything as if it were their family.
"im a cog in a machine why won't these other cogs gladly accept being a cog? they must be lazy"
It's very simple. THE LEVEL OF EFFORT WORKED IS NOT EQUAL TO THE SUSTAINED OR GAINED RETURNS IN ONES LIFE.
His brain is so big its pushing all his hair out
Or its so small its sucking the hair inwards
Asmon gonna be eating his words when everyone starts watching ai streamers.
He said we need UBI to support people who lose their jobs to automation, the fuck are you talking about
Yea funny ppl think there job is safe an just minimum wage jobs be f over with. Hell I might be out of a job in 10 yrs . They made a robot nurse called Grace .
The system is rigged these people are clowns
How about mutual respect. I'm not kissing your ass for "allowing" me to work. You want my productivity and I want your money. I'm not gonna treat you like royalty. That shit goes both ways.
If you’re ever wondering if companies are really using planned obsolescence, look no further than lightbulbs
"People didnt want to work through COVID" - yes, you are correct in that people didnt want to work through a pandemic because their own lives are more important than filling this dudes pockets (and people like him).
Nah, it was an excuse to stop working. I’m not mad at it, but it’s true
@@DadsCigaretteRun how many people died from covid? Im sure that if this doesnt happened, a lot more would died. That is the truth.
Some people got to play "the floor is lava", others could not do so even if the floor had actually been lava.
Don't work through COVID, but you shouldn't get paid more than someone actually working during the pandemic, that was just dumb to give people sitting at home money for living safely in their house.
@@Otakucardplayer
So what should happen when lockdowns force your workplace to close while rent and bills still exist?
I got fired by a company during the extended 2020 fiasco. I kept trying to value quality over quantity that never met quota while other veterans of the business around me were just putting up numbers to keep quota. I was let go for it and even before being let go, I was "promoted" to greeter for a good 65% of the time.
I appreciate that you‘re putting up with comments targeting you personally and being fair if they can explain somehow a way out of the personal aspect and not banning them immediatly…
Can You explain to me why I worked 200h night shift at Shell got fired over dispute about 250dollars bonus while Shell CEO cashed in 10 million bonus?
The answer is in the question
@@nizarbellamqaddam2644 How you, a CEO gonna make that profit without having workers? Your greatest asset, yet you can't take care of them for taking care of your business like they used to with the older generations?
@@Darakudemon how many do you think can fill your position and many can fill the CEO taking in consideration the network the favors the alliances in high position of influence you understand this life become clear
Man.. maybe its true that there is actually no gold behind our currency
I give usd you give me gold i sell gold for other assets and the gold keep circulating until it go back to you and you sell it again to me while i keep the price of gold as is while pumping the value of usd.
You think that you sell gold for a certain price but you just keep buying it and buying usd you don t sell anything you just don t know it yet
Because it IS true. Gold standard was abandoned in the 30's 40's
@@lucadesanctis563 Officially in the 70's actually.
@@ConanOG Bretton Woods. In the 70's Nixon said that the dollar wasnt the global currency wnymore which is different
@@lucadesanctis563 the biggest issue is that it was there we lost the limitation on money printing. The gold convertibility itself for common people isn't that world changing, but the government admitting they would print as much notes as they wanted was, it would be fine if they just printed based in some amount of gold they had stored and only transferred between countries.
If I could stay at home and earn an ubi check I would. I could spend time doing what I want to do like focusing on my drawing, bass playing, and working out. Instead of spending most of my time working for some multi billion dollar company.
agree with your opinion on this.
Actually liked that the second guy you put up made you clarify your opinion on this issue since i felt like a lot of people could have missunderstood you to that point :)
Lots of love from switzerland
*pups*
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People are far to used to being mistreated and when someone want a to change that they get mad and say you need to get mistreated too
There was 50 years of productivity and earnings drifting apart faster and faster each year and the second people want to lessen the gap just a little millionaire CEOs have a meltdown.
Also - Asmon is wrong about automatisation, clearly never worked physically a day in his life.
It's already automatised to the extent it's worth it. There's very little chance it will go much further because machines and robots are way more expensive than people to maintain.
Office jobs on the other hand are on their way out and few years from now we will have none of them.
Middle class will collapse, no more accountants, call centers, assistants, void cubicle jobs and so on.
Ps it's mainly women job that's getting remove. It's not the middle class but the middle class single women that will lose her job.
since the industrial revolution the economy has been reliant on mid-level cognitive jobs that have been manufactured to stabilize the workforce in first-world countries wereas production went overseas. It'll be interesting to see what happens when these middle class jobs dissolve.
@McMillanTAC I disagree that A.I. will take over things like call centers. Customers specifically do not wish to speak with a robot, and can tell when they are. I've worked in customer service and can say 100% without a doubt they will take their business elsewhere the second they find out. A business will never be able to operate without people being customer-facing, that's paradoxical.
@@alexanderjakubowski5673 Ok and customer love shitty items that they have to rebuy.
PS It's not because they say somehting that they're not gonna go against their own self interest by their own actions.
@@BinaryDood Wonder what the next age will look like.
I really like these type of videos that you do. They’re interesting.
this reminds me so much of the scene in office space when he sits down with the bobs for the first time and explains “so where’s the motivation?”
All I hear is the rich are worried there aren't enough wage slaves.
Not to be "that guy" but Apple technically wasn't sued for "planned obsolescence", they were sued for slowing down phones with degraded or consumed batteries. To most people that sounds like the same thing, but one implies the intent to sell new products and the truth is that it was a response to the natural aging of a battery and how it relates to device performance over time. I've worked with these batteries for years and their solution to the problem was actually good, but the problem was that they didn't clearly disclose the slowdown to the consumer or give them the choice to opt out (they wouldn't have)
If true, it's a shame that people won't listen to this.