Bambu X1C - PEI Plate is offically RIDICULOUS with ABS filament
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- čas přidán 2. 02. 2024
- After struggling for over a year with a FlashForge Adventurer 4, scraping prints off the build plate, sometimes having prints FUSED to the plate...the Bambu PEI plate, which I have just tried for the first time, is almost a bizarre experience. It almost seems too good to be true, when printing with ABS.
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ABS releasing when cool is not the problem. The problem is getting it to stick, stay stuck, and not warp or crack.
Welcome sir, we've been waiting for you.
I'm new to 3D printing, so all I've ever known is PEI plates. And auto-bed leveling. And not shuttling SD cards back and forth. And printing in more than one color. I feel fortunate to have skipped over the growing pains of 3D Printing.
Same here. I did try the cool plates when I got my Carbon printer. But soon learned fast that the PEI was the plate to use.
I switched to PEI over a year ago on my older machines (FLSUN, Artillery Genius - when their glass bonded plates failed to hold, and Ender 5 Pro). I've never looked back.
I have the X1C PEI plate and am new to 3d printing. Is all the "glue stick" and "cool plate" and "plate stickers" now all in the past? Just get a textured PEI plate and make sure you keep it clean. (I've been using windex, and no problems).? Or am I missing a use case?
I love the textured PEI for this reason, I like the finish on the smooth better, but my new fave is Lightyear’s G10 Garolite plate for the X1C, semi gloss finish, no glue stick, falls off similarly after cooling down. There’s some new ones I haven’t tried yet too like these “dipped” plates that have PEI plus some kind of epoxy, the only thing I think is weird though about them is that you can’t use IPA gotta use water. With the G10 though you use IPA
It's equally remarkable for PLA and PETG. I have a third party textured PEI plate, but it seems to work just as well. It's a far cry from the old days of trying to level your printer by hand and get your print to stick to glass (or borosilicate)-- sometimes it would stick so well you'd think the plate would break, and sometimes it would slide off somewhere around the 10th layer. The PEI plate even seems to auto-calibrate the extrusion for me successfully, in spite of Bambu's warning that it might not.
Now that you touched it, go was it with dish soap and a scrubby and keep your oily fingers off it!!! For real ;)
yeah, I was like: NOOOOO don't do that! hahahah
I touch my pei plate all the time and don't clean it with ipa all the time. I have never had a problem with parts not sticking. I do clean it occasionally though.
Hi! I'm just curious, what temp are you setting the plate to? Cause I can only get proper adhesion if i heat soak the printer and set it over 100°C (with Bambulab ASA, which as a default setting of 90°C). I'm also meticulous about not touching the plate with bare hands and already cleaned it a couple of times with dish soap, so I'm fairly confident it's not a "oil contamination problem". Cheers
Unfortunately I don't have any experience with ASA.
Hello Papatone, could you tell us your Print settings for the pei plate?
I just use the settings that are in Bambu slicer, making sure I set PEI plate as the print surface. After I switched away from the engineering plate, I don't think I've changed much else. Every once in awhile, I'll adjust the X axis for supports by a few tenths of a millimeter, and I often use brims now. But that's case-by-case.
I've only been using PLA for my first month with the printer, but I tried ABS with the engineering plate (the other side of the same plate I use for PLA) and it was a disaster. Well, it just seemed completely off, but I'm using the settings that automatically read in when I load ABS into the AMS. The first layer seemed fine, but then it got less and less accurate, so I stopped after 6 or 7 layers. Any suggestions?
What kind of filament were you using? I used Bambu ABS with the engineering plate, with Bambu glue stick on the plate. Lots of folks say that it’s not necessary to stay inside the Bambu system, but I have, and I have had I think maybe three or four misprints in the year or so I’ve had the printer. I have noticed that sometimes people who are using filaments that come from other vendors, and by rights those filaments *should* work with the Bambu system, have had more problems.
@@horacechincer argh. Unfortunately, I also was using Bambulabs ABS and I did put a little bit of glue on (prevailent t-80) and I used the plate that says engineering plate on it. The other side of that plate is the one with the sticker on it that I use for PLA, but I did clean it well. Maybe I'll try another spool and I won't use any glue
@@shukanimator did you figure it out?
@@cheizaguirre5494 I started using the textured plate that I got back when I bought the x1c (it's a gold color) and it started working pretty well. It still fails some of the time, but I think only when I'm trying to use a bunch of different filaments on one print. But I haven't quite nailed what causes it to fail yet. Oh, and I don't use any adhesive on the textured plate
The Textured PEI plate makes things so much easier but be sure to clean it with a drop of dish soap, water, and a sponge to clean it from time-to-time. The oils from your hand will eventually mess with first layer adhesion. I have one on my X1C, my Neptune 4 Plus, and all my old Ender 3 units. I wish I had one back in 2017 when I started printing, life would have been a breeze.
I thought the max temperature allowable for the magnetic sticker is not more than 60C?
same for the glass plates with the dots on it - you can literally blow on your print to get it off the plate after cooldown
You are entirely right, and your results are correct, but with the tower example you would have had to bend the plate to get it out those definitely could have broke loose super easy by taking it out. I have the p1s and it’s great the pie is great but flawed example
if you buy now x1c you have pei?
All of the printers I have bought come with a PEI plate. You can also get a PEO plate that's even better and leave your prints smooth like glass and even with a hologram embedded into it.
Yeah textured PEI + ABS is like a miracle, it works great for other filaments too, but for abs its another level
Interesting. I'm seeing the opposite. I just printed ABS for the first time on the PEI plate that came with my X1P, and removing the prints is very, very difficult.
Are you letting the parts cool all the way to room temperature? When the plate is hot, the parts don't release.
Yup, they can take those cool plates and dump them in the trash. I have two PEI plates and they just work.