Piers Morgan clashes with socialist commentator in heated debate on Israel-Hamas war
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2023
- Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan engaged in a heated debate with socialist commentator Owen Jones over the cause of the Israel-Hamas war and how it could end.
The pair clashed on whether Israel has committed genocide with its incursion into Gaza as it seeks to destroy Hamas.
“The difference between Israel and Hamas is Hamas does not have the capacity to wipe out Israel,”
Mr Morgan took aim at Mr Jones for his argument that Israel could wipe Hamas off the map if they wanted to, pointing out that “they are not doing it”.
“What they are doing, and this is indisputable, they are issuing a number of warnings repeatedly to people to go south and stay out of northern Gaza and then they are pulverising it with air strikes and now they have gone in on the ground and they are waging battle with Hamas fighters, terrorists,” he said.
Piers: you can’t say that
Owen: is this uncensored or not??
Be nice if he would answer even one question instead of just yelling "wOt aBoUt iSrAeL"
Pierce is so opinionated he cannot hear a thing.
I'm confused. When did Netanyahu appoint Piers Morgan as a lawyer?
well said!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Na'ah, NothingYehu told Piers Morgan, Deuteronomy 14:8. He told him to just drink the soup of it. I don't hate Piers Morgan, I think he's just afraid of loosing he's CZcams prevlidges since the goyim days are over. He's just a poor Irishman, I weep for him to get signs of guidance from the Most High, he's very intelligent I admire him for that one need to consider the damage it caused to loose his career with big news media outlets.😊 Don't interrupt the man's new oil treasures (CZcams).
Maybe you're confused at the idea of someone expressing a differing opinion to yours?
Long live Israel.
Piers: It's not a genocide.
Owen: It is, they're decimating civilians.
Piers: It doesn't count because Israel could kill all of them right now if they wanted to.
Owen: So could Russia to Ukraine and you call Putin genocidal.
Piers: Well thats different because Russia wants to take over Ukraine.
Owen: Well Israel wants to take over Gaza
Piers: I agree and thats bad but its still not a genocide.
Edit: I did not expect this comment to get so many replies. Unfortunately, a lot of the critics towards it keep making the same arguments, so I'm adding this to make it so new commenters don't waste both of our time.
1. Hamas doing war crimes doesn't mean we should be okay with our ally, Israel, doing war crimes.
2. All countries have a right to self defense, it does not excuse war crimes.
If you're going to make comment that Hamas is bad and Israel has right to self defense, don't bother. I agree that Hamas is bad and Israel has the right to self defense. I might add more, to this original comment, but that covers the majority of what people have been telling me.
Nah it’s about intent lmao, Putin called Ukraine an illegitimate country that doesn’t have the right to exist
Russia amassed troops on the border for months before they invaded, Israel invaded in response to 10/7
You people have no concept of “indiscriminate bombing”
@@Thegrimforest I still don't see how there's a difference in intent based off of what I posted. You're right. There is a difference in who attacked first. But that doesn't change that Israel is genociding civilians on purpose by bombing sites that mostly have civilians but might have a handful of terrorists.
@@coryneff7048 because you’re blind, in each instance Russia was the aggressor and Hamas was the aggressor; what’s not clicking lmao?
@@Thegrimforest what's clicking is I don't care who started it
@@coryneff7048 then stop whining when people rightfully get their ass kicked in 😂
I'd like to see Owen Jones and Douglas Murray in a debate about this.
Murray would wipe the floor with Owen....
@@Cookie69697
Murray would bring the argument to an repulsive level, full of lies, deceit, ad hominem and smugness. The uninformed would cheer him on not knowing he lost on the factual side because they don't read books.
@@obakshah7540 now that's what I know of Owen to push his narrative forgetting the truth. Some of the rubbish he comes out with......Gays for Palestine so he supports free flying lessons......totally delusional
@@bluedragon13063 can you leave your pantomime days and give a reason...Douglas's has more intelligence in his little finger. Some of the rubbish Owen comes out with to push his narrative not the truth......
@obakshah7540 Actually Owen would bring a bunch of lefty figures hand wrapped in Hamas facts to keep supporting Hamas propaganda.
Murray would bring receipts with real historical evidence with names, actions, dates, options that were considered and outcomes and finally effects of those decisions.
Owen would then say "well that can't be because official UN figures say (inserts UNRWA figures here)" and the lazy assed lefties feel satisfied that Owen decimated Murray with facts and Murray is now a right wing extremist fascist with a Neo-nazi agenda.
Yeah, that's how fucking vile the left have become...
I've been a Labour supporter my whole life, this war, this trans lunacy, these open borders have shown me that the left have gone from being a compassionate party by, for and from the people, to be completely devoid of logic that has become a danger to our society...
Terrorism supporters openly March the streets. Men in dresseses teach our children. The murdered become the villains.
This is insane.
Israel doesn't have to supply water or electricity to anyone. This guy needs a holiday to Gaza...
Then they're committing war crimes. Over 65 percent of the citizens of Gaza are under the age of 25. You're just cutting off supplies to the children who need it most. But we all know Israeli's end goal here.
Maybe he could claim refugee status 😊
@@infidel202 All of those could use a holiday there as well.
@@TrevorSachko true that mate
Israel have said that only provide 9% of the water and Gaza has plenty of stored fuel so wheres the issue?
Buy him a one way ticket to check personally.
No matter what this little ponce says Israel 🇮🇱 will go on.
That’s not a statement to be proud of
@@patriciagroleau3398I disagree with you. It is a funny and accurate pithy riposte
Just when we think Piers actually might get it , he does a 180 .
“If the Russian leadership would rather not be accused of committing war crimes it should stop bombing hospitals.” Hillary Clinton. Russia also said Ukraine was sheltering and setting up base in hospitals which they were.
Ukraine were setting up base in hospitals were they? Can you provide any credible evidence to back up your claim?
Did you really just quote Hillary Clinton to try and make a point? She is just as much of a snake as all of them.
@@richriver5336 She sure is.
AS Ukrainian, I would say that statement that you just used that we were setting up bases in hospitals sound like i just watched Russian TV. DO you even believe this shit????????
Russia was invading a peaceful country under the false pretext they are denazificating it. Israel is chasing internationally recognized terrorists. Ukranians are not nazis. Hamas are indeed terrorists. Ukranians in Ukraine do not endanger Russia. Hamas terrorists in Gaza proved to endanger Israelis. Not that difficult...
Piers is an interviewer that loves his own questions and answers and doesn't really listen to his guests if they disagree with his paycheck
🤬misguided and ignorant influencers that are perpetrating these LIES of muslums being expelled from their lands. THERE is NO COUNTRY EVER NAMED PALENSTINE!!!! jews bought back their own land of JUDAH from the arab/persians OCCUPIERS!!! this is in all history books going back 4500 years of abuse to the indigenous land owners of JUDEA.........history folks don't forget or have extremists alter reality!! we are NOT sheep so listen to history not EXTREMIST TERORISTS WHOM HAVE INFELTRATED SOCIETIES AROUND THE GLOBE!!!
It looks like he's not even listening, just waiting for a chance to break in with his pro-Israel/pro-genocide talking points
Id say neither of them made an attempt to listen to eachother. The guest almost shouted "gotcha!" every time piers said something that the guest had a rebuttal for. How can there ever be any real discussion when each side of these debates is always just waiting for that "aha! Actually..." moments?
Because Jones is talking shite.
“You just skipped an awful lot of history, pierce”- Owen
And you dont know a lot of history, Owen
Owen doesn't know any history of Israel, or he'd know that land rightfully belongs to the Jews.
Uh huh, and the history he added was that there was something unfair in the land swap clause during the peace negotiations.
So, according to Owen, this is a good enough reason for all the lives lost on both sides for the last 23 year. Yes, of cours, don't live in peace and prosperity, stay in constant contconflict, for a bogus reason.
@@paulinegallagher7821 >> And you dont know a lot of history, Owen
Demonstrate.
@@naomiharbour7841 >> So, according to Owen, this is a good enough reason for all the lives lost on both sides for the last 23 year.
Is there a difference bewteen a "good enough reason" and just a reason?
Is there anyone on the Left that DARES to step outside the box on this issue? Their orthodoxy is like a cult.
They r a total cult
Owen Jones is a little weasel, still in the bath water.
I think you misspelled that….
Well put.
the left have always behaved like a cult, regardless the issue.
I can’t stand listening to Owen Jones, please don’t have him on again…
I think we sadly need to hear them as they are all ridiculous.
Listen to Fox
Truth hurts doesn't it?
@@asmazak truth never hurts if your mind is open, Jones is a deluded (cannot write it) so full of his own sanctimonious certainties without a shred of evidence of actual experience, typical armchair social justice warrior, typical brainwashed spoiled brat…
@@asmazak I'm sure facts like m000 slims are as indigenous to Israel Judea Samaria and Gaza as they are to SPAIN and PORTUGAL hurts you
Israeli spokesperson....Piers is very good at his job.
He’s an Israeli spokesperson agreed. But disagree that he is any good. In fact none of them are as they trip all over the place over their hypocrisy
Pro Hamas bot you are really shit at yours
How did paragliders and unsophisticated rockets breach the Iron Dome security system and why did it take 6 hours for the IDF to respond to the attack ???
Because they were not expecting it. Peace has reigned for years before this. Israel was not expecting this. End of story.
@@theresaburdett1054 OK, 6 hours for not expecting it? That is such a naive thing to say. Ask a cook in any army and they will tell you what that means....
@@samraj9253000 terrorist to clear in multiple towns and areas mixed in with civilians. You clearly live in call of duty if you think it could’ve been cleared faster.
@@boofclouds199 making assumptions much? Never played the game, but I did the clearing real life. evidently if you talk about it you only played it? Yes ignore history or reality and talk about a game. Very logical buddy.
@@samraj925 sure buddy 😂
There's only one thing worse than an terrorist sympathiser is a terrorist sympathiser who thinks he's intelligent 😂😂😂😂
Exactly. And he's obviously mentally ill, look at the expressions on his face when he is talking.
I agree piers is out of line
Agreed. Piers is insufferable
Yeah couldn't agree more Piers shouldn't sympathise with terrorists
@@Trickyksa instead of trying to be sarcastic maybe brush up on your grammar 🤣
It was always about loyalty to the left. Never about logic.
The problem with the leftist stance on these issues is it means if a country is attacked they can never retaliate because civilians on the aggressor side will inevitably be killed.
The far right projecting what they always do to the left.
I'll give you examples unlike you just saying meaningless words. Sounds good but no substance.
Loyalty to israel and really loyalty to anyone who is anti Islam. Let's be real.
No logic. Can't even condem israel for the collective punishment. Genocide killing of more than 5,000 children.
Hamas killing of children was wrong and call out against it but what about israels war crimes. Can the right denounce israels war crimes.
That's where you have no logic but blind loyalty.
Insane take
@@dirtylittleowlA lot of truth in it actually.
@@marzipanmonkeyThe right says a lot of nonsense.
How can Owen Jones, whoever he is, only talk to one side of the story? Never believe a radical, someone so far down the road of one side that they neglect to argue from a point of understanding both sides of the debate.
Standing up for the clearly oppressed side as they're exposed to horrific war crimes and atrocities is not being a "radical." There's nothing more contemptuous than a spineless bothsidesist Centrist® thinking that neutrality is always the answer.
You should go on tv and tell the world how it is
@@stealthslayer4406 Why thank you, give me a platform, and I'll gladly do that.
You know who clowns like *you* should talk to? Actual historians on Israel/Palestine. They will tell you how it's not a both sides issue. But you don't care about learning anything, only about stroking your ego by appearing smart online, like all Israel supporters 😂
Why do people never talk about both sides of Nazi germany? Or the russian invasion? Orsouth africa apartheid? Hmmmm 🤔
@@corysherI would gladly watch you make a fool of yourself 😂
People cannot distinguish between a war and terrorism... that's the basic problem
Please enlighten us?
Right, Israel is a terrorist state for decades.
That little man child thinks a lot of himself.
They are all of the same ilk: angry, sanctimonious, intolerant, no room for listening to anyone elses's point of view and arrogant.
It says you joined youtube 11 months ago and have 100+ comments on this channel. That sounds like a really interesting life you have
I have read the comments on here but I still think the same way about Owen. They all seem to have the same character traits and points of view. Ie angry, arrogant, sanctimonious and intolerant. They are the type of people who get others cancelled because they think differently from them.
@@remotefaith This comment is strange and a bit disturbing.
@@francescarose1453 >> They are all of the same ilk:
If you can't tell the difference between "genocide is bad" and "genocide is bad BUT...", then this says more about you than it does about anyone else.,
He's wrong and evil
Owen the only man who knows the truth his own sick truth
Owen quoting learned scholars: “If you brutalize a population, you turn them into terrorists.” Pierce: hm
So kidnapping innocents and killing civilian families through horrible methods is excusable?
Rationalizing that barbarity is the reason why barbarity exists in the first place.
I'm from a country colonized by 3 western nations, a skirmish from 1 more, colonized and raped by Imperial Japan and now dealing with China. More than 1 million of my people died in WWII from the Japanese conquest. Some through barbaric cases like tossing babies and catching them with bayonets.
When my people gained the upper hand against the colonizers. We didn't answer with barbaric methods.
What a disgusting excuse. I've been hearing that obnoxious excuse justifying terrorism and rationalizing it saying that terrorism is only seen as such by the oppressor. The same idea was even used to justify black slave's revolt against the white Americans as if Hamas is the same as black slaves.
Also, the question of whether Hamas is a terrorist organization or not is the just so simple to answer. Hamas themselves included in their Covenant that they intend to kill all jews. In short, they preach and shout their genocidal organizational mission out loud. Yet there are people like you and Owen resorting to mental gymnastics just to divert accountability from Hamas.
@@hijodelsoldeoriente so killing civilians before the terror attack by hamas is ok?
@@hijodelsoldeoriente >> So kidnapping innocents and killing civilian families through horrible methods is excusable?
No, it's wrong no matter who does it, whether it be Hamas or the IDF.
Clearly not what happened with African Americans. Don’t rationalize terrorism. That’s what morons do
@@hijodelsoldeorienteIsrael started it, Humas are way more honorable than the IDF. By miles, it’s not even close…
Well done Owen. Exposed Piers Morgan's duplicity and hypocrisy with regards Ukraine and Gaza.
You woke tw,t
What a articulate and intelligent man Owen he is. He is on point with his arguments
A Muslim praising a Gay person. Inshallah Brother.
Very well done Owen
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another lefty is about to massively sway myself, another lefty, further off towards the right
You mean further towards sensibility I hope so people like him are digging the west's grave
Spot on. We seriously all need to wake up.
It's probably due to Owen Jones obnoxious smarmy attitude. He even has one of those faces you just want to punch.
Maybe Owen should go to Israel and Gaza and see for himself what’s going on
You first.
Piers new nickname is, do you condemn Hamas?😂😂😂
2014 UN Amnesty report Hamas use Shifa hospital as their base.
Just shows you how much the world has changed since then and everyone is pandering to the allegedly oppressed
@@domsnow6418alleged oppression? You’re a sick minded psychopath
Before jihadists took over Amnesty.
That is a pure lie!!!
Look at Press's hypocrisy
I know Owen is a 🤡
Piers hypocrisy about Russias and Israel genocide 😂
Piers saying the true! he get it! most of the people think they 'get it' and think they know how to solve the Middle East problem but they wrong!
who owns the press? who owns piers?
@ride.the.tiger. you have to let people express their opinions that are not aligned with yours. Speciality when they are right and you too blind by the hype to actually see it
On this issue I agree with Owen Jones this WAR has been going on for over 75 years, Israel was born through Terror, the bombing of the King David Hotel, the hanging of Sergeants Clifford Martin and Mervin Paice, followed by the massacre of Palestinian Villages. Which is why so many fled in terror in 1948. Since 1948 there have been many aurtrosities on both sides, which started with Irgun and The Stern Gang. Ben Gurion's Book has been read by every terrorist group since 1948 in the early editions he speaks with pride about the terror they committed.
You left out the massacres of Jews by the Arab states around that time period.
@@goodyeoman4534 Not in Palestine, the Arab state over reacted to what was happening in Palestine. Just as there were anti-Jewish protest in the UK at the Time both in London and Liverpool. I also didn't mention the Holocaust, because the Nazi massacred Jews it seems they did much the same in Palestine. Many Jews are siding with the Palestinians saying they oppose Zionism.
@@roberttreborable How do you reconcile the fact that the Jews lived in what is now Palestine for thousands of years before the invention of Islam?
@@goodyeoman4534 Where have I claimed otherwise, they lived alongside the Palestinians peacefully under the Ottoman Empire then under the British Mandate, they started a terror campaign demanding a new country. The British after WWII were keen to give up running an Empire, particularly Palestine nothing there to keep us, no Oil and over 100.000 troops to keep the peace, while the Zionist gangs where killing the same men who freed them from the concentration camps. P.S I notice you use a profile with no contexts.
No, the terror started with arab countrys attacking israel in the first week it was born. Israel never attacks first, its always the arab countrys who start the war and then they play the victim when israel counters them to defend itself.
They would throw Owen off the roof without a doubt. Owen is a turkey celebrating thanksgiving
The israhellis would throw him off a roof? They’d get mossad to knock him off if he continues telling the truth like this.
Correct the guy is Gay the Terrorist HAMAS ISIS etc would have him disappear
keep on telling yourself these lies, when you know damn well you're committing worse things on a daily and act like nothing is wrong with it
You have to ask why are Muslim countries so violent to each other.
I'd ask Russia and Ukraine the same? 😅
Muslims not only hate non Muslims they hate other Muslims
@@HumbleTurtle15Pointless deflection, like every pro-palestine argument. The islamic state is a morally bankrupt entity almost literally down to the last political entity, the only defense left is obfuscation.
Because Muslim countries hate each other
Because of his sexuality, Owen would be thrown off a roof within 10 minutes of entering Gaza, yet has dedicated himself to becoming the archetypal useful idiot for the Hamas cause. What an absolute genius.
Because he’s not blind and brainwashed like most of u idiots.. and a lot of countries have laws against sexual orientations, that doesn’t make them bad people..
No he wouldn’t, you’re just stereotyping according to the racist picture you media has been painting. And you guys keep repeating this to deflect the actual talking points it’s so stupid..
Are you a child?
No one will throw him off a roof in Gaza. This is not how treatment of LGBT in islam work. But you and the muslims work so hard to make things appear the way they are not.
@@phecalelafia7850 Then tell that to all the european countries that give asylum to hundreds of thousands of LGBT-people who themselves say this is EXACTLY how they are treated by muslims in their home contries. You live in cucko land. And what is your source that this is not true when you say that even muslims themselves agree with me? Wishful thinking?
Piers got owned. He lost his arguement.
Nope
yes, indeed.
No he didnt. You are delusional.
watch the interrogation by the israelis of the hamas fighters captured on oct 7th....give you insight into hamas
Just another butthurt Muslim
Owen believes the UN tells the truth ?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And u blv Netanyahu tells the truth😂😂😂😂😂
He sounds like a mom trying to excuse her son who just got caught murdering 1400 people.
"Well he's poor, and police brutality, and he lost his home 80 years ago in a war."
No maam, he's a genocidal maniac and will not get any 'warning' this time.
your position is either explained by underlying racism and disregard to arab lives, OR you're a zionist jew supremacist, there is no third reason
Don’t Zionists supporters say that civilians are responsible for their governments actions?
In that case Hamas didn’t really attack innocent civilians
At least by Zionist logic
THIS
That doesnt excuse the genocide of 5,000 children
@@bhevanlewis tell it to the Hamas
Its very easy to dislike Owen Jones
Who is this guy? do u have some background for us non-UK people?
@@juanzulu1318 just go research, he's normally making a 🤡 of himself though.
@@juanzulu1318Owen Jones this name should pindar up on Google in a glowing report also youtube
Don't let your hatred, stop you listening to facts that refute your argument.
@@juanzulu1318He is part of the loony left and appears on the biased mainstream media in Britain. They are always angry, sanctimonious, intolerant and arrogant.
Piers losing this one
Piers is talking in circles on this one. EVERY argument he poses for what Putin is doing to the Ukrainians can be used to describe what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians.
Raping and killing civilians and decapitating babies is not the same as civilians dying in air raids against terrorists you indoctrinated fuckwit!
No, because the Hamas started the fucking genocide on Israeli people and Russia Attacked the ukrainian people
I didn't realise owen jones was blind, deaf and completely dumb, but now I know😒
Those conditions are all by-products of having your head jammed so deep up your own arse.
agreed.
Cuz he didn’t agree with your brainwashed narrative, he’s blind and dumb lol.. im pretty sure he’s way smarter than u..
He has a redeeming feature though. He calls out Israël constant land theft,which is the root cause of this conflict
@JohnCavendish-ql4jc Didn't Israel leave Gaza in 2005?
That is how the terrorist group hamASS got a foot hold and took over in the first place?🤔
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Alllaaaahhhhhh akbar it's a trap
Piers Morgan braindead bots in …
Whenever people critize israel's crimes, pro-israelis call them hamas supporters. It's so dumb to say that
Says a zionist puppet who loves occupying land illegally and does genocide.
@@arhamakhyar3088No, it's because they spam the exact same drive-bys and cheap insults and fake figures and regurgitated deflections. Either they're bots, or they think on the same level.
Piers is just doing what hes paid to do not speaking the truth.
What did he say that wasn't true?
You mean Owen and not piers
Piers checking off his list that his bosses gave him at the end of the interview so that he can get that pay cheque.
Stupidest thing I have read all day!
He really needs to educate himself before opening his mouth.
Where was he wrong?
@@wuper2270don't start
Look at this white boy who thinks he knows everything,what a joke!
What, and break the habit of a lifetime?
On the plus side Owen Jones is the most reliable political analyst in Britain today, you can guarantee whichever side he picks is going to lose.
Brexit, Jeremy corbyn, he's infallible.
So things arent looking good for Hamas
@@murphoithegameguy3924 👍👍
The hospital was used as a base, they showed all of the military equipment stored there.
if you don't understand how the zionist freemasons are controlling all the west with money, israel bombing palestine will make no sense to you
No they didn't 😂🤣
They showed a bunch of military equipment in a room, literally nothing proving it was in the hospital, or that it was used by Hamas. Why havent they released their info on why they bombed it in the first place? 🤦
How you people fall for this propaganda so easily is amazing.
You do realize they were taught by the CIA right?
rotschilds created the modern economic system, and many more jewish zionist lobbying the US with tons of money, and the zionist freemasons are the real rulers of the US, and the west in general, it's ridiculous
you are too stupid , or hate make you blind
They showed a few bags of rusting AKs and a laptop. Where's this command bunker we've been hearing all about?
Alledgedly there were guns hidden behind an MRI machine which is a frankly bonkers claim to make on a good day.
Owen Jones is clearly intelligent, but he's so captured and arrogant, he's literally incapable of seriously considering anything that contradicts his opinion.
He's just your typical obnoxious woke leftie then.
Somehow Piers Morgan says " I'm interviewing you, but won't let you say what I don't like", hahaha
This guy is UNHINGED and Very Disturbing .
Yeah. What's wrong with him ? He's against occupation,Land theft and Israeli War Crime....
How is he? He's essentially saying both sides are in the wrong and the killing should stop, what's unhinged and disturbing about that?
@@JohnCavendish-ql4jc😂😂
He only normally goes on shows with his little pals, else he storms off. A bedroom journalist who never goes anywhere. Oh sorry he likes a good hate march.
The speaker Owen Jones is talking nonsense. Saying that Hamas should not be in power in Gaza, and at the same time that Israel should not fight a war against them - well I am sorry but you can only choose 1 option.
Yeah basically what he is saying is hamas shouldn't be in charge, but israel cannot wage war on them to take them out and since the palestinians haven't taken hamas out because they aren't able to do it or they don't want to then for him hamas should remain in charge until they decide to go start a new career as farmers I guess.
Lol thanks for clarifying the complicated logic of his statement. @@johnwinchesterp2963
I don't want the husband who's beating his wife to stay, but I don't want the cops involved. Same silly logic.
Hamas came to power because of illegal occupation of gaza by israel
>> Saying that Hamas should not be in power in Gaza, and at the same time that Israel should not fight a war against them - well I am sorry but you can only choose 1 option.
You can choose both if Netanyahu steps down... assuming of course that the next Israeli PM isn't going to _also_ fund Hamas.
piers said he is impartial lmao.
The numbers increase on Israels side... it's not 1500...more like 1200...and of that how many were killed by Israel themselves.
You can tell Jones is not listening to a word Morgan is saying. He is shaking his head and squirming in his seat thinking about what HE is going to say next.
Spot on. These gobby lefties are so brainwashed by the educational institutions, they all graduate thinking they are world & life experts on a micky mouse degree! 🙈
Why would you listen to somebody justifiyng Israeli occupation. You can't be neutral on that issue. Israël should be unequivocally condemned
That’s because Morgan’s argument is nonsensical and parroted constantly by him and others. There are issues with the argument for a ceasefire but Morgan’s argument is so selective that it beggars belief.
His words hit the hypocrites. He is one step ahead.
Morgan will change his mind on any subject depending on who he's talking to.
Piers “Israel is waging a war against hamas” meanwhile. 15.000+ Palestinians killed and 60 of them were hamas fighters.
Yup. Shows how Hamas lies through their teeth.
Maybe these young kids can save us from ourselves. The grown ups are lost in their own stories.
Excellent
Well done Owen, the double standards and hypocrisy of Pierce Morgan was well and truly exposed..
Worrying you think he come off the better
We must have been watching different interview.
@@jamiejosh96 Why is that worrying?
Where does the 15 thousand come from? Seems he believes a terrorist group on this one
Israeli official had their estimates at 20,000, and that was when the estimates were around 10,000. Nice try though
@@NightWalker911 Please provide that evidence. Even a hospital can be a legit target if it is militarized but would still have to be accessed as to proportionality so those being attacked also have a responsibility to their own people
@@barryford1482 You can either check the facts, or say GOD is on OUR SIDE everything we do is OK and everything they say is wrong, It seems we know what you have chosen to do.
@@barryford1482 I've provided it on 2 occasions, however it seems as though CZcams keeps removing my comment. You'll find it on Google. Regardless of the link, a genocide is a genocide.
OJ should never be given a platform to spout his terrorism supporting rubbish.
He's a usefu idiot
Nah let him. We need to know who these people are.
@@HibeeMcbeeVery good point.
We have certainly had our eyes opened in the last few weeks.
I take heart from the fact that hundreds of thousands may have been involved in protests, however millions have not.
That tells us something important.
He should as he reminds you who d real terrorist are..Since 1948 to 1987, 60,000 Palestinian were killed by IDF n 1 million displaced from their own lands
Hamas came to existence in 1987 but Israel killed Palestinians before too..zionist are criminal who came as refugees to inhabitants Palestine n took away their lands n everything that belonged to them by force of west
Real terrorist are Zionist
He literally condemned Hamas
Owen Jones should go live in Gaza.
The IDF won't let any journalists in numbnuts - they prefer to control the narrative
No matter what wrongs the Palestinians do, for Owen there is always an excuse, a reason, and he tries to suggest/imply it is Israel’s fault. It is verging on anti-semitism in my view.
Exactly! It just clearly shows his bisanes and that he is full with AGENDA! They dont want any peace! They just want to push their agenda!
Israel are the problem
If Hamas had done the same on U.S. soil, what do you think the outcome would be?
BEFORE 09/11? then they would fight with everything they've got. In this climate? god knows. People are afraid; you speak out against these people, and you get killed for it.
Apa yang akan dilakukan Amerika Serikat jika Hamas bersembunyi Di Washington DC ? Ya Mereka Akan Membuat Hancur Wahington DC seperti debu dengan Bom-Bom yang mereka jatuhkan Setiap Hari 😅😂 bahkan Israel, UK dan Australia akan mengirimkan Jet Tempur berkendali Nuklir untuk Menyerang Hamas disana 😊.
Hamas Bertempur dengan Kaos dan Celana Adidas sebagai bentuk dukungan Olahraga, bukan pertempuran. Siuu Ronaldo
Thats stupid because Hamas doesnt wage global jihad
@@ernestkhalimov1007 >> Thats stupid because Hamas doesnt wage global jihad
So you're saying Hamas would never wage global jihad? Good, I'm glad you agree that they're somewhat less reprehensible than the IDF.
@@mbg4681 they've had decades to do so and never did.
Case closed 🙏
You can mark my words, if Ukraine falls we will bear witness to a genocide and cleansing that will put the holocaust in the shade.
This person has no idea of the figures in Ukraine. There has probably been 300,000 civilian deaths in Ukraine since last February.
The arrogance and demanding nature of this guy is what makes his argument stupid. To demand that someone sees the same point of view is poor to say the least.
The main gigantic difference is
Ukraine didn’t initiate it
And ukraine is a SOVEREIGN globally recognized nation.
@@theartidote94 well, I guess you don’t empathise with many countries then. I think you’ve just outed yourself as a supporter of terrorism.
You can shout your viewpoint all you want it doesn't change the reality of the situation we find ourselves in unfortunately. Russia is attacking Ukraine and Israel is fighting Hamas in territory densely packed with civilians that are being used as shields which I'm sure is one of the hardest battlefields to fight in. That's the situation, that's what's going on. Spouting for peace to all does not change people's intentions or the reality of the world.
Bro if Ukraine is even backing Israel that should tell you what is right. If you support democracy, civil freedoms and basic liberties at least.
Owen is an ignorant man with no idea. A left leaning idealistic person who ignores facts. Hamas Charter is as follows; This is Genocide, just like Putin has voiced towards Ukraine. The Covenant proclaims that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it, and jihad against Jews is required until Judgement Day. Compromise over the land is forbidden. The documents promote holy war as divinely ordained, reject political solutions, and call for instilling these views in children.
Sorry but we don’t care about corrupt Ukraine 😅
He would get thrown off the nearest building by them, i don't think they like gay people not just hamas but the people there aswell
This guy is gay? Well, then we clearly see the Stockholm syndrome in action here
He's only doing it for popularity surely
@@ThePastaManCan probably he is a little attention seeker 😆
Pierce is so delusional. Honestly
The fact is this would not be happening if Hamas did not attack on October 7th. It's as simple as that.
Oh no the fact is Israel was stealing and killing aswell before the 7th
Something must be wrong with you. Israel has been killing peoples in Gaza for decades. Please stop being so stupid. For Pete’s sake. Have some knowledge before commenting.
For a journalist that plies his trade by interview, Piers Morgan doesn't do much interviewing. He keeps saying, "I have said,...I am right...!!"
The gassing of Kurds during the waning months of the Iran-Iraq war may have been perpetrated by Iran, not Iraq.
Iraq got all it's chemical weapons from America but they were expired and had actually given them all back.
I certainly think it wasnt perpetrated by Iran. It doesnt suit their ideology.
It was Iraqi warplanes and German gas.
Piers " invaded by a vast number of terrorists". Invaded means to occupy.......but this was a "raid" right? vast number? no one has reported how many it was....some said 3000 took part in the massacre.......but that means more than half of them didn't kill anyone........these facts are quite important as we try to understand this huge mess......
The interruption man..
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He wouldn’t believe what the IDF was saying but he’d believe what the UN was saying! 😂 Yeah because the UN has shown itself to be such a well balanced impartial organisation. 😂😂😂 he says the hospital authorities who should be listened to, that will be the same hospital authorities that apparently had no idea that hamas had guns, ammunition and explosives stored throughout the hospital! Stop trying to defend the non-defendable.
Yes cuz IDF always lying what IDF themselves confirm that !!!
By the way the hospital authority asks for any party to come to the hospital and establish an investigation but IDF refused that ...
IDF wants to bomb the hospital as they did before and blamed Hammas for that
And Iran chair the human rights committee at UN. They are irrelevant and irresponsible. How comes there has never been a vote of no confidence against Hamas the rulers of Gaza.
Pointless
You are so right how can someone believe UN
I mean did you see the UN provided equipment deep in the hamasISIS tunnels
when has UN ever blatantly lied?
When someone doesn't support them they are biased
When someone supports israel they are impartial. What about the bunker in 1983 Israel made. Read your history that is well documented. There were no soldiers and no fighting besides what the IDF was doing. And they magically found weapons. Use your brain
@@CruelSabraca motion was put forward to the UN asking for nothing more than for an official proclamation of condemnation of the recent attacks by Hamas by the United Nations . It was voted down to cheers from its members. The United Nations is a detestable group of self serving pigs who care for no one but themselves .
Owen is such a disillusioned lefty that he is becoming the new Jeremy Corbyn
"It is not the eyes that are blind, but the heart" Surah Al-Hajj (22:46)
Send him to Gaza so can see what's going on, he probably wouldn't believe if Israel showed him the tunnels first hand. How can someone be so dumb.
We've seen the genocide on video
I see Owen Jones - I reach for ear plugs
How ignorance breeds...
@@rosa61217 it's to spare the spread of ignorance ironically. I have his book "Chavs". Worst thing I ever read. Vowed I wouldn't listen to him again. Sorry that offends you so.
@@joetrigger5962why are you watching a CZcams video with him in then? Surely you have better things to do than whinge about him, but not actually challenge what he said
@@joetrigger5962you keep listening to GB news then as there much better 😬
@@willbrunton5333 Will. That is an entirely fair point. I do have better things to do. its like I enjoy be irritated
This guy actually tries to make a living out of human suffering and despair. He doesn't really care about Palestinians, its so obvious.
I agree, Piers is a leech on society.
Your entire western pimp media is making a living out of every war.
Piers doing this for the ratings. The facts laid infront of him about the crime of the z ionists by so many guests goes over his head. Could it be he is a Zionist in disguise.
Yes true piers has made a fantastic living out of it
@@ralph3428more than likely it’ll be you, but we all know you wouldn’t be as bold in person. Rat activities..
Piers is doing his best to revise history with misinformation.
Stop occupation,stop apartheid,stop genocide!
This little kid still lives in his mothers basement.
He looks like the embodiment of weakness.
And yet he's not excusing genocide.
Yet he stands up against evil and calls it out.
This brain washed robot.
During Stalin time he would getting 10 years vacation in Siberia Gulag.
Owen is trying to sound smart but displays high level of ignorance.
You sound both stupid and silly!
What was he Ignorant on?
Jones may be odious, but thankfully his opinions are irrelevant.
What a muppet...doing my head in. Pierce, you are right...if Israel wanted to, it could completely clear Gaza but chose not to...what muppet doesnt understand is that
This antisemitic Muppet
so cookie monster
So does Putin, so why would u call him monster but not IDF ??
They have the means to, but they certainly aren’t able too without causing an unattainable international outrage, let’s not pretend they are doing it for the love of the innocent human beings in Palestine and have the moral high ground, hamas are a terrorist organization acting like such but Israel are acting even worse and should be held accountable.
Owen the Muppet
The hospital was a hamas base. The word palestine is a philistine name. To judea by roman emperor hadrian
>> The hospital was a hamas base.
The IDF's case for this weaksauce excuse for _literal genocide_ is laughably amateurish.
@@mbg4681 actually it is conclusive...
Pierce is the most abusive interviewer ever no matter what is the subject
His show, they don't like it don't come on.
You get to act how you want in your house.
Rachel Corey
Gone but never forgotten ❤
Palestinians, as a civil society, are responsible for what happens within their society. If they had the moral fortitude to police and prevent terrorism, then there would not be a conflict. Their society is entirely culpable.
To a point yes.
However you cant really argue against suicidal fanatics either
And Israelis are responsible for their governments actions
So by ur logic Hamas didn’t actually attack any innocent civilians
@@Ayfe431 That's an excellent point. That makes Israel themselves responsible for 7th October. Without the oppression of the Palestinians, there would be no Hamas.
By your logic, all Americans are responsible for the deaths of Iraqis and the Israeli government responsible for the death of their people not Hamas
You and those you support don’t even allow them to live a normal life, Palestine has nothing of a state it is all controlled by Israel, who is responsible? Those ppl who believe in might , those who keep away with Russia in Ukraine because it is a match for them, and send their nuclear submarines, and their most advanced warships to support an oppressor. What kind of message are you sending out to the oppressed? Only might is right.
The guest is a couple seconds away from shouting allah Akbar
Owen Jones is absolutely deranged in a weird grauniad parallel universe….and Morgan is seemingly falling for the fiction
Y’all are literally crying abt 1500 ppl and ignoring 15000 ppl. Huh?! How?! 😂 Insane. Not even worth the discussion, all hope is lost for you if you think that’s logic.
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There is no logic when you are trying to survive and defend yourself.
Do you actually know what this war is about - at all. Do you think it would have been OK in WW2 to look at those German casualties and allow the Nazis to remain in administration. Do you really have any idea what Hamas are at all? In Germany the indigenous population talk about being liberated from the Nazis. Do you not realise that Israelis - against all the odds are liberating the Gazans from their 21st century equivalent - Hamas?
Hamas leaders are billionnaires in exile - whilst their people are suffering. Gaza has received so much aid and investment the population ought to be enjoying prosperity on the scale of Singapore. Yet they live in abject poverty due to their hideous genocidal regime. Hamas remains in power by a combination of fear/propaganda - just as the Nazis did. Yet these are the people our left ally themselves to.
Listening to react, not responding with thoughtful logic. Why do these people even have a platform to spew their nonsense from.
Hello Zion. We see you. Please go away 🤯
Totally agree!
misguided and ignorant influencers that are perpetrating these LIES of muslums being expelled from their lands. THERE is NO COUNTRY EVER NAMED PALENSTINE!!!! jews bought back their own land of JUDAH from the arab/persians OCCUPIERS!!! this is in all history books going back 4500 years of abuse to the indigenous land owners of JUDEA.........history folks don't forget or have extremists alter reality!! we are NOT sheep so listen to history not EXTREMIST TERORISTS WHOM HAVE INFELTRATED SOCIETIES AROUND THE GLOBE!!!
100% agree
No you go away. You sre evil.@@kirstymiller9332
Jesus christ, how come all videos that are THE RIGHT ONES, aka pro Owen removed?
Very bad CZcams👎🏽
OWEN, stop interrupting all the time
This debate was intense
I am definitely not on the Left but had to agree with Owen that something can't only be genocide when you disagree with the political ideology behind it
@@Timothy1976The problem with Piers is that he is inconsistent in his stance depending on what his bosses tell him to say. When Russia commits genocide he condemns them (even though we all know Ukraine is being used as a pawn by the US to trigger that reaction). But when Israel does it he calls it “self defense”
what debate? Piers barely let Owens get through or explore any point he tried to make
Support Israel, but I can understand the upset for Palestinians. However, just criticising the methods of Israel without a pragmatic solution will not solve anything. If pro-palestinians calling for a ceasefire have a proper solution to address Hamas regime and minimizing innocent casualties, please bring it forward because conflicts in other parts of the world not involving Israel (i.e., Armenia) would help too......
>> However, just criticising the methods of Israel without a pragmatic solution will not solve anything.
100% agreed. You would enjoy Jocko Willink's statements on the matter.
So you are saying Israel bombing innocent children is pragmatic??
How about the IDF take off the diapers and move in on foot? Handle the situation the same way you would as if Hamas was hiding in Israel?? It's common sense.... Figure it out 😂
Imagine suggesting they conduct a war within the rules of war. Madness. So impractical.
Why i can smell your unclean smell you filth animal
Piers got absolutely owened
Lol, joke
He loves it lol
Like Owen does every night by his daddy
@@goodyeoman4534 trying to be funny?
@@zrdessien Choosing to stoop to the level of Owen fanboys, for personal entertainment. It's working.
Why doesn’t he go to Israel and see for himself. Why doesn’t the bbc go with him and make a doco, lets see the truth. What is it with these people.
The land was never Palestinian land, they came from Yemen not Israel. The Jews were displaced and they moved in.
When exactly? Given that there were 15.000 Jews, 600.000 Muslims ans 100.000 Christians in Palestine in 1880?
@@MrTVintro the Jews had two temples and several centuries before Islam even existed. Before the modern state of Israel the British Empire defeated the Ottoman Empire, the Ottomans never recognised Palestine as a separate nation or state, it was just the Ottoman Empire. There never was a Palestinian state, and the people there now have no connection to the Philistines. The Philistines were Greek, the Arab Palestinians come from Yemen, not from Israel. They lost the war they lost the land, that's how it goes.
@davidagiel8130 Jews originated in Iraq
Jews and Palestinians share the same genetic DNA.
@@Discovery2024-rn8kn And? context matters, the Jews emerged from Canannites three thousand years ago, the Palestinian Arabs today come from Yemen and didn't mix their dna with the Canaanites until after Rome and the crusades. The Palestinian name refers to the territory of Philistine, not the Arabs living there now. Palestinians today are not from the Philistines, because they were Greek not Arab.
He is a turkey voting for Christmas
Is it uncensored or not? Love it
Piers always runs out of time when he is losing the argument. And even after claiming there is no time continues to talk for another 10 minutes.
He didnt lose his argument, because his is the only argument worth having. That man didnt know shit about whats going on, and he kept deflecting and talking about other wars.
@@paulinegallagher7821 >> He didnt lose his argument
So he's convinced you that genocide is OK? That's... unfortunate. Except for people who look and think exactly like you, of course.
I actually think that they are unhinged.
I know they are
>> they are unhinged.
Piers is actually cisgendered.