Floch Forster: The Volunteer Devil of Attack on Titan
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Hey all - in case anyone is curious, I have read the ending of the manga, but this video does not spoil anything past where the anime currently covers and is friendly for anime-only watchers.
Also, please excuse the occasional repeated use of clips for this one. I talked about Floch for nearly 20 minutes here but he actually hasn’t had a ton of screen time, especially proportionate to his importance. So there wasn’t much variety to choose from. Aside from that, hope you have a good one and I hope you enjoy the video!
No problem dude
Great analysis btw ❤️
Doing a Review of Floch .... You have earned our respect...
Great Content as always...
@@vijaydhankar3781 He didn't have your respect before this then?
@@seemonuzumaki723 Well , respect got multiplied
Could u please tell us what you think of the ending?
If Floch had the Founding Titan he would've made the wall titans fucking sprint.
😭😭😭😭
Sonic level sprint.
Now that we realized how many things were holding Eren back from actually wiping out the entirety of the world outside the walls (like the plot moving in such a way that Marley-Eldians survive, etc etc) Floch might have been a better shifter and just do the work of wiping out everyone lol
@@-gj3nu Floch would have wasted no time, death to all his enemies, if he was a shifter lol.
😂fax mans would’ve had the population gone within a afternoon
Floch is one of those characters you could find in history books
Very true
He reminds me of the revolutionaries and political idealists that plunged Germany into chaos during the 1920s. The kind of young volunteers willing to through away their souls for the change they thought their nation needed. Of course we know where some of that lead...
@@thejadedeagle6729 People like him usually end up in a revolution, sometimes even on the right side.
@@music79075 they end up on the side that won. Which will determine the rightness of their choices and path.
@@jurgenforster8314 Agreed, rightness is determined by victory, not through virtue of victory, but through the knowledge that no one else could have stood a chance.
No one expected Floch to be as impactful in the story as he was and i loved it.
Faaaacts probably my Fav Character after that shit show called 139
@@Gas-maske mine too, love u king Floch
I actually really enjoyed Floch's character and I didn't hate him until the point where he wanted to kill Levi and Hange. Levi is my favourite character in the whole show and trying to kill him is a big no no for me. That's when I switched and started routing against him. And everytime he hindered the alliance, my dislike for grew more and more. His death was mildly satisfying although I wanted him to die way sooner and more violently. But I can't deny how great of an antagonist he is.
He went from bitch baby i dont wanna fucken die to my top 5 favorite
@@chubbyalonso3687 the alliance is absolute cringe ( a least the paradise half of it)
His character is so well written, even without a backstory. No one expected Floch to have such a big role in s4, it's amazing that the mentality and motivations of his character are being used after RTS.
He does have a backstory though, we just.. see it happen if that makes sense lol
@@jimmyichigo7410 Then I don't this that counts as a backstory?
He really went from random background character to main character in 1 season
@@jimmyichigo7410 that was not a backstory lol it was just a part of the current story.
@@Shush7717 No shit lol
Reminds me of a quote I heard somewhere that applies to Floch:
'Some people are so intent on leaving a mark on the world that they don't care if the mark is a scar.'
It's beautiful but those are more like fancy words
A mark for your people is scar for your enemies
A scar for you is a mark for your enemies
If you consider your side to be the right one it's a mark (especially since floch only fought for his country unlike armin and hange for example)
If you consider your enemies to have even 1 small bit of righteousness then you will be the scar
@@mohamedelhediissa289 A mark on the world doesn't necessarily have to mean a make "for your people" and "against" others.
@@mohamedelhediissa289 sometimes without meaning to, in the fervor of the fear of death and pointlessness, we lose all purpose, and harm those we mean to help, and vice versa. that is what it means to leave a scar instead of a mark, we do something not for the good of doing it, nor even for the good of a people, but just because we can, because leaving the mark is all that matters. Never get caught up in thinking you're righteous, because that's exactly how you lose the goal you were trying to achieve in the first place.
@@HiddenOcelot The last sentence is truly some wise words!
No they don't realize that it's a scar. They convince themselves that it's a great beautiful mark. And they don't give a shit about open-mindedness.
The thought of dying a meaningless death is a terrifying notion. It makes perfect sense that Floch would turn himself into a devil and go all in for something he believes in. He had to redeem himself from showing cowardice when faced with death.
Wow. Your summary of his character is the best I’ve seen.
I personally think that a lot of people would end like Floch, being in a similar situation. I myself belong to the category of people that would rather prefer not being remembered after death but I know in my environment people, who are the contrary.
Often this people join political,religious or social movement groups.... sometimes the problem is that by trying to stand out of the crowd (either as an individual or a group) your ego becomes more important than really trying to help others....
They get so obsessed by their goal that it becomes irrelevant how they get it... because they're after the ''right'' goal everything they do to reach it can't be evil and it's justified ... but if someone/a group they don't like use they same tactics, then they become angry >_>
@@amuroray9115 I mean it's the same thing as the video, just condensed and summarized. Is it not?
He's basically if Daz had a character arc
he wanted to be like erwin so this makes sense.
King Floch, the side-character that became a main character because everyone else was too busy being dead to fulfil the role
honestly, what a chad
Fuck Eren he is new Chad now
@@Gas-maske I wish Eren and Floch would have switched roles.
@@Slendermən Same he would atleast finish his Mission
Even Armin knew Floch was right
Let’s not forget Floch’s maturity: Zeke ripped his commander and hundreds of his closest friends to shreds, and thre Floch into a total hell. A typical shonen character would dedicate themselves to revenge against Zeke (Levi) yet Floch completely abandons his own (likely) hatred towards Zeke, instead acting like his ally. I’m sure that took quite a lot of maturity and integrity
Facts. This is a big factor that gets easily forgotten when it comes to floch.
thats why he becomes such a great endgame antagonist. you understand. yet holy disagree with his actions, even when in the long run they do make sense. this is because the sacrifices that would be needed to be made can only have been done by broken men forced into a state of wordily maturity like him and eren.
normal people do not fight to creat genocied for the greater good, they fight to stop it for the greater good. hes not a normal person anymore, he and all his fallowers became a willing monster fallowing the demon to the ends of the literal world. this is defently not a standard shonon we watched monsters be made infront of our eyes yet did not see until what was happening was to horrific to even imagine.
You're so right, Levi couldn't give up the idea of killing Zeke, it's essentially what drove him in season 4. I never thought about this but Floch had to put all that away and move forward
agreed but Levi wanted to fulfil the promise he made to Erwin tho there is a revenge factor there.
@@mesumali2807 plus zeke was unforgivable and a major factor in the dooms day machine. even if at the point of his death he stopped it himself. what he was and what he became was to evil to be left alive.
hell zekes end was like anakin/vadars death in star wars. at the end he fell back into the light but by that point in time the countless atrocities and deaths he had caused made everything good about him and his return to the light pointless just sentimental. it was to late to take back the pain he caused.
flock on the otherhand lived and died for his ideals. something in the end that did not come to light in the way he imagined it but close enough to what he saught for. in the end he kinda won thou he did help speed on a genocide. unlike zeke flock never lived long enough to see the errors in his ways nor do i think he would have been so disatified with its outcome that he would have turned back to the light.
they both died as monsters but only one of them won in the end. and thats why their deaths and the motos aperendi of it is so different
There's something both Floch and Jean demonstrates that don't get talked about enough. Their honesty about their standing in life. One of the things that get under my skin in real life is someone who goes out of their way to be seen as cool but actually isn't. But for Floch and Jean, they KNOW who they are how cowardly they are. So they run with it and work to change themselves.
I did wonder a bit if Floch was meant to be a bit like 'what if season 1 jean was dropped in at season 4' in a similar way to Gabi referencing Eren, the girl Sasha saved referencing Sasha, Falco with Armin, the girl Mikasa saved referencing her, as well as others I forget at the moment. But I definitely felt like a lot of the younger characters were being paralleled with main characters as part of the next generation/cycle of hatred theme.
@@lewisroach8723 Dude you're totally right. :)
Jean is one of my favorite characters
I would argue that Jean is the direct opposite of a coward. Yes he is afraid and he is open about that fear but he still fights and still risks his life for his comrades. I would say a big difference between Jean and Floch is that Jean is willing to be nuanced and not see everyone who is not an Eldian as the enemy. While Floch enjoys killing Jean does what needs to get done but gets no joy in taking lives.
@@lewisroach8723 The suicide charge definitely fucked Floch up.
Floch is unironically one of my favorite characters in the story, because like you pointed out here, his reactions are all very human. Even his hatred and sadism is understandable from the perspective that he' wishes to pay Marley back for all the shit they've done. The series is about the cycle of hatred after all, and Floch is one of the best examples of how hate can change a person. Plus, his criticism of Eren and Levy at the end of S3 was totally on point.
I think Floch is easily one of most disliked and kinda disturbing characters for me, just because of how realistic he feels. He truly feels like someone who experienced a massive amount of trauma very quickly and is now operating mostly out of spite at the world. Isayama might be saying that people like Floch are also the most likely to adopt and get lost in a nationalistic ideology
Yeah I agree
What about when he beat Keith Shadis? Lol.
@@amuroray9115 you're saying it like shadis was a saint. After getting a beating he literally proceeded to slaughter his "dear" students.he was getting in their way. They needed to attain dominance in short amount of time while enemy might attacks anytime. Sorry that a coup d'etat has no talk no jutsu in it.
@@perfectanime8819 what the hell are you on about? Nowhere did I say Shadis is a saint. “Talk no Jutsu”? Lmfao. Buddy. Beating Keith Shadis had nothing to do with “obtaining dominance” Floch had him beaten simply because Shadis was a relic of the past and the Yaegerists are all about revolution and radical change. That’s all. I don’t know what the hell you were talking about. Probably a different episode. Nowhere was their a slaughtering of students. You must be talking about a different event or you’re confused
During the Raid on Liberio arc, my favorite line was when Floch said, "There's nothing here but enemies and the places they live". The simplicity of Floch's mindset is refreshing in a story with so much complexity. He just wants to validate his tragic experiences by punishing the people he deems responsible for them. I don't agree, but I appreciate the sentiment.
I would do the same tbh. Imagine finding the killer of your loved ones. You won't hold their hands and sing kumbaya with them
"story with so much complexity" yeah lol
@@__-dq9ev he was killing civilians.
@Nir Vonis you really can’t make sweeping generalizations like that. moreover, considering they were in an internment zone, many of the civilians he was killing were Eldian.
Also, even if we take for granted that they were racist civilians, I really don’t see how them being racist at all justifies murdering them beyond what was necessary as floch did. He literally went out of his way to kill more civilians.
@Nir Vonis No, war is not when the government decides to do genocide, and even in war there can be meaningful moral decisions. Literally in the same scene, Jean said they were trying to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. That’s an example of having a level of ethics during wartime. Floch literally goes out of his way to murder civilians. Even by wartime standards his actions are abhorrent, and they’re driven out of irrational hatred.
I kinda understand Floch..man literally cheated death and felt like this is his redeeming moment, thats why he's making sure that he'll be part of the change Erwin didnt get to see
Everyone before the enlightenment would be pro eren and flock. It’s only how pussified we are today that we even question that these people aren’t in the right.
@@GhGh-gq8oo But-Umm... Have you read the Manga?
@@GhGh-gq8oo the enlightenment?
@Daniel Lythrone tolerance and acceptance is gay tbh. Ideals like that are exactly why civilizations collapse
Tolerance is just passive aggression. It’s better to separate yourself from those who don’t understand you or those who have no desire to.
Erwin standing on top of a mountain of corpses because he's sacrificed them all to get what he wants. and Floch carried the wounded Erwin, Floch is crushed underneath a mountain of corpses as he struggles under the weight of being the only one trying to give his comrade's deaths meaning.
An excellent analogy.
Beautiful
This is the most beautiful comment ever.
They already had meaning, but I get your point
@@Ismael-kc3ry Not to Floch though. Levi failed to kill Zeke, he had one chance to save someone who will in turn save humanity and that was taken from him because of both Eren and Levi's emotions.
Think about it. You wake up from a hellhole suicide charge, found your commander to still be alive and with your exhausted body both physically and mentally carry his body to be saved, with even the 2nd in command agreeing, the famous captain being close to the commander with only two people emotionally asking for the other guy to be saved.
And then you see your effort being in vain with said captain giving a somber explanation that he cant let him continue to be this. If any of us were Floch, we would beat Levi until he would be unrecognizable. Because in Floch's eyes, not only did he fail to do the one thing everyone sacrificed their lives for on a suicide charge, he also gave in to emotions and worked against humanity.
Surviving an Homeric battle against a giant ape and walking amongst the corpses of your fallen comrades as you end up the sole escapee of a skirmish that's been part of a plan that you have no ability to understand due to the sheer scope of its players then realizing that your life ultimately means nothing as you are just cannon fodder serving to further the agendas of the main characters of your universe whose very whims dictate your fate sure seems to change a man
"Bu...but.. hes racist and fazist tho"-Alliancetards,2021
@@jacktaylor0465 The man carried Erwin on his back and over the wall to persuade his leaders to revive their "devil." Now that is dedication.
He do be racist and fascist
-Me, a Flochtard
@@dhmc45 I am surprised how people missed that. He tried his best. What a tragic character.
Baki and now AOT. You really are cultured.
He's the type where even if you don't dislike him, you can see why others do. And even if you dislike him, you can see why others don't
Top notch writing mate
i suppose, though while i can see why some people like him i can’t say i see how those people have as much of a hard on for him as they do
Underrated
And that makes him a beautiful character.
@@No_Relation_666 It's because he's the most based character in AoT especially after Eren drama lol
I'm just so surprised a side character that didn't have much dialogue was SO iconic. You hate him or love him, Floch went from the background to the front and that's so impressive
and not just the front, he became the last major endgame antagonist before the final battle.
This might be reading a little deep into it but think about Flock’s name as well. A group of birds is called a flock, and Flock is a member of the survey corps represented by the wings of freedom. His name literally symbolizes how he’s just one person from the crowd, one of the forgettable fodder that dies in every mission that the survey corps undertakes. That, along with the fact that he has no special powers, no special skill, not graduating in the top ten and used to be a member of the garrison filled with average soldiers, really sells his background as just an average guy who became this way due to what he experienced.
Floch
Floch
Yeah written Floch but is pronounced the same way as flock,,,,,, like Nicolo whose first part of his name in Japanese means meat, so with Sasha's death we think she means meat but turns out she and him had some sort of romance
It isn't an impactful thing , maybe reading too much into it yea but it's lovely and goes along with the events very well
you are right. you are seeing things that aren't there.
I had thought about it too, although the name is not the same, the resemblance is far from coincidental.
I loved Flochs' character development, I also loved his motivation. I loved how he changed from a Scared kid, to a smart thinker thats cold.
Agree
true. He underwent real development.
Paradis is known as the island of devils and instead of proving that he's not, he embraced it.
This psychological effects is very common in our modern society. Be careful of the insults you throw to other people because they might end up something that others thought them to be
That’s what I didn’t like about him. While the other Eldians try to show they’re nothing like what the world views them. He wants to get rid of any idea of peace. Eren wanted to show the world there were good Eldians by making himself destroy the world but only to be killed by his own kind. Floch did nothing but create bloodshed. And even hurting his own people that he would protect. That’s why I hate him.
@@TheToaprimezilla lol
@@TheToaprimezilla Well here is a thing. While Floch was an complete asshole he was also 100%right. Showing the world, that we are not would not have worked, because the rest of the world decided (before eren attacked marley and took the warhammer titan) it would be better to kill them all.
Floch knew he only had really two choices. Roll over and accept his death or become the devil the world sees in him.
Only reason why paradisewas not destroyed right after Eren died, was beacuse eren killed 80% of the world and gave Paradise a chance and because armin (an eldian from paradise) killed the devilwho wanted to destroy the world (what gave paradise 100 years top).
@@MrDeflador but his methods were going too far. Eren wanted freedom but didn’t want to Revel in the power while Floch did. I just can’t stand Floch. Eren hated what he was doing but he had no choice while Floch enjoyed it. I’m curious why Eren didn’t fill him in on the actual plan.
@@MrDeflador no one will convince me that all nations have united with Marley, it's such a dumb concept. Marley uses titans in war and has slaves. why would the rest of the world take their side? makes no sense unless someone wants to support genocide.
First off this title is hilarious to me. second I had no idea ppl hated his character in s4, he was so entertaining to me
I think people hated Flock as a person not as a character, as a story character he is great but as a person id punch him like eren did to armin
@@sdbzfan1 I know that I was talking about as a character
@@sdbzfan1 Armin didn’t deserve that. I hate what they did to Eren in the show.
FYI: I haven’t read the manga.
@@nightlydata2181 i know what you said but ive rarely seen people hate asshole characters unless they clarified that the character is writen belivably but if they met them in real life they would hate them
He was annoying in S3. In S4p1 he was...a nuissance. Once he did that stupid "Shh" meme though, he became full scumbag though.
Floch is one of the better written characters in AOT in my opinion.
In fact, there are instances where Hange, and Armin admit to him being right bout Eldia's and Marley''s conflict.
True. You gotta mix some truth and logic into characters like these, otherwise the audience will just not listen to them.
When they kill him Hange say he was right but genocide is unacceptable amd they need to stop Eren
Erwin too
Floch was not wrong once throughout the entire series. Man's words rang true to the end.
@@myrongaines6022 sometimes I wonder if Floch has the AT too. He predicted everything. Floch is definitely in my top 3
Yelena and Floch are my two favorite characters. I might have a problem.
They're both amazing
I don't really blame you when the rest of the cast became watered down versions of themselves
they stand out because they are more normal than others somehow
I love malice characters
@@artorios2320
Armin "Genocide is good if it's only 80% Arlett
Reiner "Sniffer" Braun
Eren "I dont know why I did genocide" Yeager
And
Ymir "Genocide will cure my Stockholm syndrome" Fritz
I love the use of the word "Volunteer" to describe Floch's villainy because it both fits the character and it's the title of Season 4 Episode 9
>Floch
>villain
The true villains are the Alliance.
@@kompf9099 the alliance is just the worst of all worlds. They stopped the rumbling but didn't guarantee Paradis' survival. They just lived their lives and then doomed their descendants. What a bunch of selfish people
@@neyte7313 yeah in the end they would still be wiped out and their children, but hey at least they can be peaceful till they die, right? Just like the king of the walls Uri Reiss
@@johnalexis1232 paradise being wiped out had nothing to do with what eren did, the world sent the alliance to establish peace with the island did u forget? whatever happened to the island was because of a conflict we don't know of
@@lilmupp875 was it even indicated in the manga? it’s kinda obvious that the remaining people of the rumbling would retaliate on the island when they have the chance
Imagine if Floch got his way and Erwin got the colossal titan. Imagine the colossal titan Erwin screaming into battle in the same manner Erwin screams to hype up the scouts.
He has character development more than Mikasa 🤣🤣🤣
Fax
More than most SNK characters
When I saw Floch is scared me cause he has a lot of the traits and mindset I and most people have. Many people would’ve followed Eren after what he saw
@beuh beuh Prob cuz he had some points
@@baseddepartment1645 Yep. Dont mean Hitler is a hero, same about Eren. He its not a hero never was.
@beuh beuh except hitler wanted to conquer whole world , but eren wanted to save his nation from the whole world
@@Madara_Uchiha69420 Hltler didn't want to conquer the whole world wtf are you talking about
@@marthvader14 not conquer whole world sorry , to defeat whole British Empire which
Floch's totally the kind of person that I despise in real life but I like as a character. He has come so far ever since Season 3 Part 2.
A lot like askellad
Agree.
@@__-dq9ev true
He's exactly the sort of person I would like in real life as well. Realism and truth are rare nowadays, which floch represented.
If you are one of the Paradis people, you would support Floch and despise Hange, Armin, etc for not prioritizing on your safety.
I dunno friends. If I saw like a hundred people die in front of me from rocks thrown by a giant beast... i'd probably go a little crazy too.
and other people still want you and your family to get destriyed so you will go more crazy
Probably the most human character in the story? I'd say him, Kenny and Erwin are all right up there.
Kenny is hella underrated tbh
@@m7.alsharaf747 Kenny's addiction speech was incredible.
"KENNNEEEIIIIGGHHHHH"
-Levi Ackerman
Erwin was defined as a devil for how he threw away humanity
Yea very human
@@th3_ph4ntomreborn31
It IS very human
After reading the extra manga pages, I now realize that Floch was right all along
Gross and floch were never monged.
I haven't read it, I'm too scared to read it especially with how disaster the ending was.
Always was.
Even Hange said that
WHERE CAN U READ IT ??
Floch is the GOAT. The only one with an actual plan
When he was right about armin being the wrong choice, never seen a character not live up to expectations like that
yep
WELL HE WASNT, ERWIN WOULD HAVE TAKEN EREN'S SIDE TOO
@@user-pd6ze4lf4s and that's a bad thing?
@@viorp5267 I'm just saying that yall need to shut up about Erwin should have been saved instead of Armin.....like let my man Erwin rest
@@user-pd6ze4lf4s yeah erwin has seen so much shit though I'm sad about him dying, he has to rest
To me, Floch is that necessary perspective to AoT because his perspective adds more depth to the narrative in a world like theirs. It's hard to deny their existence in a war-torn world like theirs; whether it be motivated by nihilism or some twisted version of someone's philosophy/sentiment, his voice is necessary. His character arc encompasses what no one would dare to address. Hypocritical, sadistic and in many ways cut-throat heartless, he ironically becomes the representative of those who have been denied truth and have been left in the dark by those in power. Honestly, I think having Isayama adding him into the story is one the best thematic decisions to AoT.
Agreed. I've always that the small brush strokes added through the likes of Floch and Yelena and Kenny are just as important as the broad ones.
Homeboy was introduced as fodder and became Eren's right hand man. The audience can say what they like but he was an impactful character beyond expectations.
Every time Floch gets screen-time I shout: “RETURN OF THE KING!”
Every time? That's a little weird
@@justmyopinion79 totally worth it my dude
@@justmyopinion79 how is it weird to praise our king🤨🤨🤨
@@ascendedsavage7040 I didn't say it's weird to praise your king. I said it's weird to shout at a computer or TV screen every time a character comes on screen.
@@solidsnake9898 Hahaha I'll take your word for it
Floch is a chad
Floch is not a bad guy and hes my favorite character
Floch’s unbending principle makes him better than the other characters. I remember a panel in manga which Eren remembers the important people around him and Floch is there. Dope af.
And so is Sandra. Do you remember who that is? You think she's important? Didn't think so
@@secondeye1574 LMFAO
@@secondeye1574 sandra wasnt there clown
@@EliteGeneralMaster01 I dont think you know who sandra is
@@secondeye1574 do you know who sandra is? Because I think your confusing her with hitch, clown
KING FLOCH 👑
That epic moment when the epilogue of the manga reveals that Paradis was destroyed and Floch was right all along
wait what paradis was destroyed
@@av278 recent leaks for final volume with extra pages
@@av278 you know spoiler:
Remember Eren, rumble 80% of population?
Those 20% will most likely destroyed paradise island.
That epic moment where people automatically assume that leaks will 100% be canon before the actual material comes out.
@@megashark1013 I'll admit I still could be wrong, but I fully believed that the 139 leaks were fake right up until the Korean scans were released. At this point I'm pretty sure the leaks are real.
The moment he called put Mikasa and eren on their crap i loved this guy.
He was right hange was living a dream and self sacrificed herself when she was to lead shows this. Eveb Jean called them out on this they had no answer for how to save paradise.
I just saw the leaks.
.... wow Floch really is one of the best characters now isn't he
Yeah
100% right
I used to joke that he was top 10 but now he is actually top 10
@@bobbyzamora6389 there is no 10 everyone in rumbling arc other than him are clowns.
@@perfectanime8819 zeke, levi , yelena are A or B mostly everyone else that i can remember are shit tier with eren being the absolute shit .
@@bobbyzamora6389 am curious actually who are you're top 10 specificly
That thumbnail is gold xD
That expression is gold
Floch is definitely one of the most complex characters of the show. This is how you write a background character.
A video about Floch is the best way to start the day.
It's so hard for one of the initial victims to draw that line when they're so consumed by grief and rage.
I think you could make the argument that both Armin and Floch represent two sides of Erwins legacy. Armins being hope and Flochs being pragmatism
that's brilliant
@@mirvk0 yeah it's like Erwin died for Armin to survive and inherit the colossal titan but Floch also survived Edwin's suicide charge so it symbolically puts him in the same position as Armin.
Legit floch is a true hero in my eyes. He gave all of himself for his people and nation.
I can say the same even for historical characters, such as Gaddafi and the Austrian Painter.
@@dennys4121 based
@@dennys4121 if Gaddafi and Saddam were still alive the Middle East would be a better place
Our based king Floch
@@dennys4121 quite literally stomped and killed for the new world order those great men where heros
The absolutely based CHAD finally got his own video
Eren? Cucked.
Historia? Farmed
Mikasa? Horsed
Floch? Unmonged.
@@r.k845 fuck the alliance. A bunch of idiots with stupid morals.
"What is a Yeargerist?"
"Someone that Floches to Eren's side"- Based Floche Enthusiast
Eren was an idealist whose ideals were threatened so he acted like a realist.
Floch was an actual realist.
what a legend
Somebody actually talking about Floch, *rejoice*
Ahhh.. back then Isayama was pumping out A+ characters like nobody's business.
What happened XD
@@bandiriatraveler8343 the last 3 chapters of aot manga are not the same quality as the rest of the story
Mediocre
@@dekarmeryalmar8774 No I know, I was jokingly "asking" wth happened in those last chapters! Absolute trainwreck.
@@dekarmeryalmar8774 worse than mediocre
that's just u guys opinions. I and many other people think the last 3 chapters were great.
Floch never got ruined I'm so happy
What are you talking about? His neck got popped by 3D Gear. 💀
@@christhefiend he meant Floch charecter didn't get butchered
Floch would've gone 100%, and while i'm not a fan of the guy, i really respect his will and his loyalty to Paradis
_unlike a certain silly bird_
@A.A Adib _tatacaw_
Birbs character got butchered
To be fair, they did show up at Liberio right as the rest of the world declared that they were going to invade their home and burn it to the ground. I don't think Floch can be blamed for turning into a complete zealot for his home after that. Sure we can say it's still messed up especially since he is assaulting people from his own home. Yet it's him and his or everyone else.
Floch is the GOAT
If you reversed the story. It would seem like those “this is reality and these new guys are dumb” troupe in movies. Floch wants victory for his people, is the last survivor of his team, tries to save his leader who’ve won them many victories, and some hotshot prodigy and his sister wants to save their childhood bestie instead. Then afterwards want to make peace with the enemies who’s cause them and their people suffering and meaningless deaths since season 1. He’s the guy that knows peace isn’t an option while the others want to hold hands and sing kumbaya. I don’t even like him that much. He isn’t even on my top 10 favorite characters on AOT but it’s so easy to see why his motives and actions are more realistic than any of the characters. People just like to hate him cause he’s not cool with their favorite character chans
Yep you're exactly right
Amen. Seriously! Floch wasn't (completely) wrong. The rest of the world doesn't just want to kill the Eldians, they want to brutalize them. They want them to suffer. They go out of the way to make them suffer.
People want to talk about how unexcusable Floch's and Eren's actions are but tend to forget that Marley threw the first punch. At the end of the day, Marley and the World wanted a war. And they lost.
That's the thing I really like about Floch. I KNOW he is in the right in so many things but I can't agree with the things he does. But just because I am an all-knowing watcher who sees everything.
Would I have been dropped in the world of AoT I wouldn't know where my loyalty would be...
People hate him because they know they'd never have integrity or inner-strength like him. They have no tribe. Just dust particles in the wind that cannot even attempt to change their destiny.
@@smirglepapier531 - To a certain extent I agree with Floch actions. And I’m a jovial and kind hearted person that saying that 🤷♂️😅.
I think the part that I found the scariest about Floch is how so many of us can become like him. During the attack on Liberio, while it's certainly tragic having to see innocent people and children die, especially since they had nothing to do with what happened on Paradis, I honestly felt a sense of catharsis in seeing the Marleyans experiencing the same pain and loss that they inflicted upon the island Eldians, and ended up agreeing with Floch. Much in the same way how someone who was abused as a kid by their parents would like to inflict the same kind of suffering upon them.
Yes, that’s why so much of this fan base sucks.
@@uselesscamel5360 All they care about is their ships
I honestly only wanted the twisted Marleyans that put the eldians through so much suffering die in pain. But seeing all those innocents die..nope I wouldn't go that far
@@heywhat6676 it doesnt help that they werent killing marleyeans, at least not floch, he thought the people running away were marlyeans when in reality they were in the center of the internment zone killing eldians, hate blinded them so much they were killing their own in enemy territory, it was eren targeting marleyeans and Jean saying they were supposed to target soilders since they dont know who is what at least a soilder is an enemy
@@sdbzfan1 They didn't really have a choice, but I agree that just made it all the more worse
thank you for this video, after the ending I started to appreciate him even more now. he is one of the characters who stayed consistent throughout the story plus he's so fun to watch
My pleasure!
Floch was right and unmonged.
Floch Forster the true son of eldia
Floch is a patriot and his developement is very understandable
The last chapter forever cemented Floch as one of the GOAT
Imagine if Floch is the Colossal Titan, nuclear bomb go brrrr.
The sympathetic and "open minded" characters were stuck in inaction that would have let to the death of eldia. Floch absolutely had the right mindset even if he went to far at times.
Our main characters were passiv and useless post time skip until they were forced into action.
Goat floch
After the ending ill say this: FLOCH DID NOTHING WRONG
Damn, he's entering the CZcams thumbnail game now
Floch's only "crime" for many viewers is that he spoke against the MC's wishes, and for that he's the A*Hole. While he did become radicalized, he made some very good points along the way and you can understand how a guy like him could see things the way that he does.
@@clurosencrans3871If you are from Paradis and Marley and the rest of the world is going to kill you and your parents, wife, sons, and your daughters, you wouldn't say that. Instead you will support Floch and hate the MC. The reason why most of the fanbase hate floch is because he disagree with the MC like Armin and Mikasa.
Holy crap. I've read this story, but I think I finally realized what Marlo's purpose truly was.
We got to know Marlo just a little more than Floch as a character to start. Marlo was the one new recruit who was actually forming bonds with the core squad. His backstory as a former MP turned scout who wanted to do more for people? And his dorkiness and tsun-tsun relationship with Hitch? Makes him likable and makes us hopeful for his future. Given the choice at the time of Erwin's suicide charge: If there was to be a survivor? If it wasn't Erwin, most in the audience would have preferred Marlo to be the one to survive rather than Floch, who at that time, upon realizing firsthand that war is hell, was already suffering panic attacks when he realized he was being ordered to charge into his death.
Marlo died. He was fodder. For mostly nothing. It didn't need to be Marlo. It could have been anyone riding that horse that day. In the grand scheme of things? His death was truly pointless. His story ended for virtually nothing. The most generous thing you could apply to his death was that he heroically took the rocks that could have hit someone else. Hell, did it even make a difference if they were one guy short? Or even two? The whole job was just to serve as a distraction. The plan didn't specifically need him at all.
His entire point as a character is to serve Floch's development. He existed to viscerally illustrate Floch's point: He didn't want to die so pointlessly. And we know what that looks like because of Marlo. Because Marlo surviving would have been the more likely scenario in another story. It would have "meaning" storywise. Marlo was the guy who plot armor normally would have saved in that charge. We were introduced to him, he bonded with the main cast, he had goals and he seemed to have an arc of sorts in the cards. And then? His story ended. Cut in the middle. Because that's what happens in a desperate war. The unsatisfying and abrupt end of Marlo's arc is what begins Floch's. Marlo reinforces Floch's character and drives home exactly what he's afraid of and the fate he wants to avoid. He gets he's expendible. He gets he's fodder. He just doesn't want to end up like Marlo. Someone with his whole life ahead of him and yet died a death that didn't need to be his.
I like Floch. He's more human than most of the characters. And he was right about Eren and Mikasa. Eren and Mikasa would always prioritize each other over the Scout Regiment. Mikasa cared even less about it than Eren, as long as she got to be with him she'd let all of them die, lol. He went way too far later on, but at that point the nature of the show has changed completely, so meh.
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Floch is the best character development to me
Beliefs can be a very terrifying thing and Floch is a perfect example of someone who was shook to the core and re-evaluate his all life purpose. Him and Yelena really impressed me. Many thanks for this video Alex 🙏🏾🙏🏾
If floch had the titan power he woulda completed the mission by the afternoon & woulda been sleep in bed by night
Based Flochbro
Floch would’ve actually finished the mission, he had true resolve.
King floch
Let's not forget that Floch was 100% right about absolutely everything. All of his fears for Paradis came true. His criticisms of Eren, Armin, and Mikasa's characters were all completely correct.
I mean, that's making a lot of assumptions based on one panel we get like a century later with no other context. For all we know, it could be a civil war between Eldians.
@@CABRALFAN27 Civil wars don't have major metropolitan cities getting carpet bombed by fleets of bombers so hard that they're completely deserted and reclaimed by nature.
Agreed after reading chapter 139.5 it’s clear floch was 100% right about everything
I don't think Eldians are the ones piloting B22 stealth bomber jets destroying Modern Day Shiganshina.
🗣️ talk that fact
Floch’s character development is my favourite after Eren.
Was literally talking to my friends about Floch today and why I really like his character (the way he's written) and sure enough, like clockwork, you made a video on him. Loved this
Glad you enjoyed it!
Everyone engaged in a philosophical debate on the comments, meanwhile in just glad they fixed his hair in the timeskip lol
I, Floch Forster, Have a Dream..
Floch is one of my favourite characters of AoT :D
Floch is by far my favorite character. Right up there with Erwin and eren
Floch is such a interesting, cool character, I just love him. Especially since his thought process is very understandable
Love your Snk videos. It's great to see some reflection on unliked characters like Floch. I think Isayama saw Floch as a question to the reader, "Do you really think this wouldn't, couldn't be you ?"
Floch lives somewhere inside all of us, and that is deeply scary to think about. So props to you for making a 20 minutes video about it.
Cheers, glad you liked it!
Kensho Ono did an amazing job, he really brought the character to life pre- and post-timeskip.
I must be one of the few people that actually like floch, yeagerists for life.
Floch was right all along and was the second best King character after Erwin.
I just love how the meaning behind "Shinzou Sasageyou" changes throughout the series
Floch’s adoption was executed so well
King Floch 👑
Floch would be a great attack titan. Seeing the future won't be traumatic at all cause floch would secure the fuck outta that shit.
"what do you see floch?"
"hmm? nothing much, just drinking a beer with Daz and Samuel."
Lmao love this
Most based man on Paradis
Yes
after that ending, floh is the only one that stays on my favorite character list
Floch-sama I kneel.
I love Floch he’s such an interesting character he gets more and more interesting with each watch through
Floch Forster : true hero & great patriot.