Falcon BMS ATC | Comm Ladder Radio Beginners Tutorial

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  • čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
  • Coming from DCS and finally giving Falcon BMS a try but confused about the comm ladder. Well this video is for you.
    Full document in the BMS-Comms-Nav-Book in your docs folder.
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    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:30 2D Setup Freq Flight Briefing
    02:48 Vital Click Dance DO NOT FORGET
    03:14 In the Pit set up your radios
    04:05 Taking to ATC for request taxi
    05:07 Q AWACS Commands
    06:17 W Wingman
    07:50 E Element
    08:07 R Entire Flight
    08:19 T Tower/ ATC
    08:35 Y Tanker/JTAC
    08:51 Tune to Tower Freq and line up on the runway
    10:03 Air Born tune to Departure Freq
    10:36 Tune to UHF 6 for the tactical frequency
    10:52 Ask AWACS where the tanker is
    11:38 At the Tanker tune to UHF 13
    13:14 Tanking procedures
    14:09 When you are done tanking
    14:18 Other Tanker options
    15:13 Heading home to approach
    16:00 Different Landing options
    16:58 Start the visual approach
    17:35 Every one gets instructions to land so follow them
    18:25 Contact Tower
    18:55 On Final
    19:54 Switching to ground
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Komentáře • 64

  • @AviationPlus
    @AviationPlus  Před rokem +9

    Thanks for watching. If you learned something let me know below!

    • @Cheiff117
      @Cheiff117 Před rokem

      Finally thank you!! game is so hard for me , coming from dcs with5k hours, i can fly but the basics of the game itself, and setting up VR and controls was quite a pain

    • @musicmystro
      @musicmystro Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks mate, this is exactly what was needed. Props for refueling on the turn like that too, most impressive!

  • @gromm93
    @gromm93 Před rokem +5

    This is super helpful for the complexities of ATC and other radio communications. Few other sims even touch on this, so it can be kind of a lot to learn for noobs.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem

      There is defiantly something to learn when it comes to the ATC but some of us are already familiar with ATC IRL so it is an easy transition but for others it might not be. Thanks for watching.

  • @aaronwhite1786
    @aaronwhite1786 Před rokem +8

    Definitely one of the toughest things to get used to when I added BMS to the rotation on top of DCS.
    With DCS, you don't really need to mess with comms outside of getting the tanker to let you refuel, but with the moving parts in BMS, you really needed to get that sorted out for all parts of the flight.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem +5

      It is something that you need to get used to. However, some of us are real pilots and it just make sense to us but for the majority it is not as intuitive. ATC in BMS isn't needed but it is when the airspace is very crowded or there is bad weather and you can't see the runway you will need some help to find it. Thanks for watching!

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 Před rokem +3

      @@AviationPlus Ha, yeah. Always jealous of the real pilots, especially online.
      You never forget your first time trying to use comms on a multiplayer server when you're not a pilot. "Uhh...Falcon 1-1...2 ship...uhhh...leaving...shit, where am I?"

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem +4

      Yup this is true even in real life. The mic button turns off your brain.

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 Před rokem +1

      @@AviationPlus Ha, that might be the best way to describe it. Just a brain reset key.

    • @hanzandfranz5337
      @hanzandfranz5337 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@aaronwhite1786 haha yep. I treat radio calls exactly like I handle talking to a cashier in a shop. I just repeat it a couple of times out loud if I have time, than go for it over the radio.

  • @mro9466
    @mro9466 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Glad you're still making these tutorials after all these years !

  • @bjorn.thorvaldson
    @bjorn.thorvaldson Před 8 měsíci +1

    Super helpful! Thanks for sharing the knowledge. :)

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 8 měsíci +2

      No problem. Sometimes it is difficult to understand how ATC works especially if you do not have an aviation background.

  • @khalidmurad5879
    @khalidmurad5879 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Really helpful. More content please.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching. I have a few tutorials lined up.

  • @Petidani0330
    @Petidani0330 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I don't know if you learned about this since making this video, but you don't need to type in the preset every single time you wish to switch frequencies. You just need to select the UHF data field on the DED CNI page with dobber switch up/down, then use the increment switch next to the dobber switch to change preset frequencies easily. It comes in really handy when you're switching ATC frequencies for take-off and landing, and you no longer have to prepare the next preset frequency like you did at 9:34.
    You can also change steerpoints with the same method, but of course you need to select the steerpoint data field on the DED CNI page before doing so. When I'm on BARCAP and I need to stay in the AO, I always just turn on A/P, then change the steerpoint back and forth with the increment switch. It's also incredibly useful when you have target steerpoints, you can rapidly switch between each target without having to manually type in those steerpoints. If you have GPS guided bombs, you can basically do the entire bomb-run in about 10 seconds this way, with multiple ground targets destroyed.

  • @daveslow84
    @daveslow84 Před měsícem

    Thanks for this, just wanting to get into BMS :) also... DCS REALLY needs to get a grip on their rubbish ATC :D

  • @PatrickJamesBeckett
    @PatrickJamesBeckett Před 11 měsíci

    how to see tower view flyby ?

  • @riccisj
    @riccisj Před rokem +1

    Thank you, great video. Your altitude indicator looks digital - are you using a cockpit mod? By the way came across this content listening to The Tactical Frequency podcast!

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem +1

      It is not a mod it is just a different F-16 for the Hellenic Air Force (Greek) Blk 52. Awesome good to hear you heard about me from the Tactical Frequency. It is a great show and always looking forward to the next one.

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 Před měsícem

    …oh, and are you using a trackIR?

  • @esunmanta3988
    @esunmanta3988 Před rokem +1

    since you usually ask for feedback I will tell you something. This video is very good and is up to date but it is a subject already covered that is in the training missions manual and in some videos on CZcams. After a few weeks watching tutorials, reading the manuals (the importance of reading the threat manual or having the charts on hand for the ils in bad weather is not usually emphasized), I think what is needed is someone who played a campaign and analyzed the micromanagement of it in 2d. From the beginning to the end. And IF possible several campaigns because each one advances in a different way. There are videos but only un the first day and the needs change as the campaign progresses. This is the point that gives us more playability and fun (I also fly online but many newbies don't take the plunge). The thing is that if you play ace to get the medals you have to avoid suicide squads, change priorities and change mission types as the campaign progresses. This micromanagement is frustrating because you don't know what to do and yes, I know a very detailed video came out recently explaining the logic of the campaign and priorities from day one but not throughout its evolution. This is not a trivial issue, in fact, update 3 comes with improvements in this regard. Anyway, it's an idea, I think it could help many players. I guess the priorities change depending on the direction the campaign is moving. Another subject rarely covered in the tutorials is weapons. I mean, we know how to fire the main armaments but we don't know the differences between all the cbu, gbu, etc. Which one is better to destroy some supply trucks, which one is more effective for tanks, which one is better for ships. This would not be a difficult video to make, just open the game dropdown and see bomb by bomb explaining what it is effective for. Well, they are ideas, things that I can't find and I miss as a newbie. Thanks for your videos.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem

      Most do not like to read the manual and others don't want to watch a video that is more than 5 minutes, but want to get really good at flying. I am not sure about the following and teaching what to do as a campaign goes on, that just might be personal preference and learning what mission to perform and predicting if it is possible and not mission impossible.
      I am liking the weapons video that you explained that would be a pretty good video. I am familiar with the weapons and know what to use when but creating a video will force me to have a better understanding. Thank you for your comment and feedback.

    • @esunmanta3988
      @esunmanta3988 Před rokem

      @@AviationPlus I'm glad you like the idea. Thanks for the videos.

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 Před měsícem

    It looks like a few times you changed your comm without using the mouse and clicking the keys on the screen. What are the keyboard keys or were you using buttons on your Hotas?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před měsícem +1

      I map the ICP to the Number pad and the Dobber to the arrow keys.

  • @VLSG
    @VLSG Před rokem

    Can you go through AI flight commands? What are, and how exactly do the AI execute combat directives? I often notice a lot of strange behavior and variation in their actions.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem

      In the Comm Nav manual pg 36 it covers every command you can give to the AI. Thanks for watching

  • @hexperience5842
    @hexperience5842 Před 5 měsíci +1

    would like to know how to dial in freq. manually

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 5 měsíci

      Comm 1 or 2 then start typing a number and obviously press enter.

  • @Notbigbird
    @Notbigbird Před rokem +2

    Do you know what it means when they say a missed approach? The other day it happened where every time I was on final they told me missed approach and to go around. I don’t know if I did something wrong or something else happened.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem +1

      If you are told that it means that there is traffic close to you and they are telling you to perform a missed approach in other words go around and try again.

    • @Notbigbird
      @Notbigbird Před rokem

      @@AviationPlus ohhhhh thank you so much! Also great video!

  • @callsignnictmere465
    @callsignnictmere465 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the coms lesson it is VERY helpful. What map is that? 👍38

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem +1

      Glad you liked it. It is not 4.38 it is 4.37.2 EMF (Eastern Mediterranean Front). I hoped someone would notice I used a little something different than Korea.

    • @VLSG
      @VLSG Před rokem +1

      Woah two of my favorites here lol

    • @callsignnictmere465
      @callsignnictmere465 Před rokem +1

      @@VLSG Always good to hear from VLSG

  • @Jptoutant
    @Jptoutant Před měsícem

    whenever i try to contact the tower nothing happens

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před měsícem

      Did you perform a click dance?
      Are you on UHF 2?
      Are your radios on?

  • @Ultimatevr123
    @Ultimatevr123 Před měsícem

    I know everyone blabs about how much better this is than dcs because they have a dynamic campaign, but why on earth can’t they work on the cockpit textures and terrain? That’s all part of the experience

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před měsícem +1

      Games can have the best graphics but if the game play and experiences are trash people won't play long. However, if the gameplay and experiences are top notch people will keep coming back to play more.
      Most feel that DCS doesn't have any actual replayability and BMS has the experience that keeps you busy not allowing for time to sight see.
      I always try to place DCS but it feels empty and creating missions takes forever.

    • @gmailcgs
      @gmailcgs Před 19 dny

      Go play Microsoft flight simulator if you Like pretty graphics

  • @rakamora2266
    @rakamora2266 Před rokem +1

    What theater is this?

  • @elielmopimentel601
    @elielmopimentel601 Před rokem +1

    What's the news about the 4.38?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem

      Must have missed the video I created. czcams.com/video/cCrPJKYAdA4/video.html

  • @mrwealthyhobo
    @mrwealthyhobo Před rokem +2

    I found a sticker for your channel ;)

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před rokem

      You found a sticker for my channel or from my channel? Where was it?

    • @mrwealthyhobo
      @mrwealthyhobo Před rokem

      An F22@@AviationPlus

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 11 měsíci

      @@mrwealthyhobo The F22 out side the AMU at Nellis?

    • @mrwealthyhobo
      @mrwealthyhobo Před 11 měsíci

      @@AviationPlus ED

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@mrwealthyhobo Oh ya most of those are tagged.

  • @Crus4der.
    @Crus4der. Před 18 dny

    Hello! What's the mssion please?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 18 dny

      There is no mission.

    • @Crus4der.
      @Crus4der. Před 17 dny

      @@AviationPlusbut when you talked about Q AWACS Commands you were in a hanger, is that a map? mission?

  • @ebubekircagrsen7824
    @ebubekircagrsen7824 Před 8 měsíci

    Can we join your team?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 8 měsíci

      Join Falcon Lounge or UOAF Discord. These a re just two of the handful of Falcon BMS Discord servers.

  • @marcquintin7855
    @marcquintin7855 Před 10 měsíci

    Too fast bro

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  Před 9 měsíci +1

      You can rewind it is not live. Either way what questions do you have.

    • @marcquintin7855
      @marcquintin7855 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AviationPlus No worries all is good, thanks for the video

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 Před měsícem

    …oh, and are you using a trackIR?