The $3,199 Guitar Review | 2023 Gibson USA Kirk Hammett Greeny Les Paul Standard Faded Review

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    The $3,199 Guitar Review | 2023 Gibson USA Kirk Hammett Greeny Les Paul Standard Faded Review
    Today, we check out the Gibson USA Version of "Greeny"
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  • @Trog
    @Trog  Před rokem +24

    What do you think - Sound the same or different? I thought it sounded good in the recording but wasn't as in love with it in the Room. Great guitar, but "different" from CS
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    • @JetFixxxer
      @JetFixxxer Před rokem +1

      The top and color looks like my '13 Traditional.

    • @kevinjwells123
      @kevinjwells123 Před rokem +4

      The Adam Jones Gibson USA seems like the better deal at $200 cheaper…you can always get a Seymour Duncan Green Magic if you want the flipped magnet thing in the neck…

    • @ed4008
      @ed4008 Před rokem +4

      I should hope wasn’t the same as cs in your hand since there’s a 17,000$ difference in price , but sometimes I wonder if the cost is what makes people blind to the fact there isn’t much difference I’ll never know though cuz I would never pay 20k for a guitar

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 Před rokem

      The featured guitar looks good and sounds good. Not having just watched the two previous versions of this model I cant say whether it sounded that different. I know Metallica covered Whiskey in The Jar but wasn't Gary Moore with Thin Lizzy when they did it?

    • @JokersWild70
      @JokersWild70 Před rokem +2

      Is Gibson going to start selling the pickups separately? You have connections, so I bet you can find out 😁

  • @nsp477
    @nsp477 Před rokem +149

    When 3.2k is considered "affordable", you know there's something wrong with Gibson.
    On a more serious note, faded finishes are not a feature: they are a cost cutting measure.
    So a 700 dollar premium for the pickups and the greeny name sounds too much. Maybe if it had a proper finish.

    • @kris_riffs
      @kris_riffs Před rokem +3

      100%, thats why I opted for the faded honeyburst

    • @Mephilis78
      @Mephilis78 Před rokem +3

      even if it was a 100 dollar premium everyone would complain. Everyone loves to hate Gibson. Similar to Bethesda Game Studios in the gaming world.

    • @nsp477
      @nsp477 Před rokem +10

      @@Mephilis78 Bethesda releases games that are broken and leaves it to modders to fix them.
      Gibson charges prices as if it were "the pinnacle of craftmanship" (words used on its certificates of authenticity), but then delivers so-so quality control.
      It's not about love or hate; we are not in high school anymore. It is about whether these companies can be trusted to deliver a product according to the price they are charging or not, which they cannot.

    • @Mephilis78
      @Mephilis78 Před rokem

      @@nsp477 So does everyone else in the industry.

    • @nsp477
      @nsp477 Před rokem +3

      @@Mephilis78 Even if that were true, it does not excuse Bethesda and Gibson's behavior, nor it means consumers need to put up with it.

  • @noire1991
    @noire1991 Před rokem +103

    you have to love how freaking Gibson figured out a way to sell you a faded standard for a $700 premium.

    • @craigusselman546
      @craigusselman546 Před rokem +6

      What did Gibson run out of cherry stain what's with the brown back .

    • @rocketpigrecords3719
      @rocketpigrecords3719 Před 8 měsíci +6

      >AAA top
      >Custom Shop Pickups you can't afaik buy separately yet
      >celebrity edition instrument x3
      >eventually going to be a collector's item/limited production
      Get it yet?

    • @noire1991
      @noire1991 Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@rocketpigrecords3719 this guitar is never going to be a collector’s item man. Then custom shop pickups?! The Gibson custom shop uses the 490 set sometimes depending on the model. All of the guitars use Gibsons pickups. And being a model that you can only buy with this guitar does not make any sense because you can buy the pickups the actual guitarist has in the real guitar from other companies.

    • @Chance-ry1hq
      @Chance-ry1hq Před 8 měsíci +5

      Gibson hasn’t sold me jack. Gibson is one of the many poorly run greedy companies I’d never do business with. I bought my Les Paul used, years ago for hardly anything, and when the headstock cracked sitting in it’s case, I repaired it myself. We live in the Golden Age of guitars why buy Gibson junk when you can buy so many other guitars that sound as good, are better made, play better, and are far cheaper.

    • @VN9001
      @VN9001 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@rocketpigrecords3719 I hear 'ya, but.............
      >AAA top is partially obscured by the satin finish. Trogly's guitar here in a standard gloss finish would be absolutely stunning, subdued in satin finish though.
      >Custom Shop Pickups you can't afaik buy separately yet - Gibson now sells the "Greeny" pick-up set for $299 (on their website)
      >celebrity edition instrument x3 - There is nothing on or included with this guitar indicating any history, endorsement, or "celebrity edition". No COA, no special case (a' la' Bonamassa for example), no back of the headstock stamp/decal, not even a truss rod cover name. Nuthin'
      >eventually going to be a collector's item/limited production - all information indicates that this model will be in the Gibson regular rotation, no limited edition.
      Just sayin' 🙂

  • @stringlocker
    @stringlocker Před rokem +9

    Only trogly would suggest light sand paper for a brand new $3,000 Gibson.

  • @vmann-jd5yw
    @vmann-jd5yw Před rokem +11

    Gibson's New Ad Campaign: Gibson: If you aren't spending $6K, Don't expect much.

  • @sqrly2u
    @sqrly2u Před rokem +24

    On the tuners. The screw that holds the buttons onto the shaft can be loosened to free up the tuners. There are teflon spacers and concave washers between the buttons and the actual tuner gearbox. Loosening the screw a little allows more backlash between the worm gears in the tuner housing and makes the tuners easier to turn. If you loosen it too much, the tuning can slip. If it is too tight, the worm hears can be stripped out. There is a happy medium. The tuners were designed for this purpose. Good luck and have fun! Good day!

  • @g.koch.
    @g.koch. Před rokem +9

    That "Nitpicky" comment on a 3k guitar..yeah maybe for Gibson standards 🤨.
    If I bust 3k I expect something flawless for that much of my money..

    • @KennedyIvy
      @KennedyIvy Před 2 měsíci +1

      For 3k it better have pure gold hardware and diamond inlays

  • @NicholasANappiNick
    @NicholasANappiNick Před rokem +176

    No excuse for that binding on a 3 thousand dollar guitar or a 3 hundred dollar guitar

    • @OldeDog_NewTricks
      @OldeDog_NewTricks Před rokem +15

      Sadly my epiphone Les Pauls are better put together than my Gibsons. With the exception of the fretboard, but that is to be expected since they Plek the Gibson’s.

    • @jonathanhudak2059
      @jonathanhudak2059 Před rokem +1

      Agreed, spend a little more time on them to avoid this sorta thing/s

    • @peterhenderson2193
      @peterhenderson2193 Před rokem +2

      Agreed. I returned a Les Paul Custom for the same issue.

    • @DS-nw4eq
      @DS-nw4eq Před rokem +5

      You’re all crazy

    • @hybrid704
      @hybrid704 Před rokem +19

      Don't think they are crazy, sent back multiple Gibson's due to q/c issues - switched to PRS problem went away. Gibson q/c still lacking

  • @Chris-wy7je
    @Chris-wy7je Před rokem +8

    $3100 and all you have to do is buy and fit the right tuners, strap locks, caps, re-wire it, buff it and sand the binding. At least it has a killer top…

  • @richfiryn
    @richfiryn Před rokem +13

    Gibson slinging out another sucker catcher. My 2020 50's Les Paul Standard would put this to shame.

    • @jonathanhudak2059
      @jonathanhudak2059 Před rokem +3

      But for someone who wants a "greenie" but can't afford 20 grand then this could be a viable option.
      After all you don't have to buy it...

    • @jasonl1942
      @jasonl1942 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Nobody cares

  • @BrentAdams
    @BrentAdams Před rokem +30

    I much prefer the non-relic'd iteration of this one (I personally would also prefer all matching knobs....sorry, just me. I don't like the mismatching & would be looking for the same guitar design, but in a "New Guitar" Version)..... $3199.00 is too much for this. And... people need to stop accepting these manufacturing flaws in any guitar over $1000.00, let alone 3 times that.

    • @Relayer6a
      @Relayer6a Před rokem +11

      So basically you aren't looking for a "Greenie". 😉

    • @wadeguidry6675
      @wadeguidry6675 Před rokem +2

      Me too.

    • @BrentAdams
      @BrentAdams Před rokem +4

      @@Relayer6a True! Even though I appreciate the tone of that guitar.... I won't pay "extra" for someone to try to scar it up to look as worn. I want my "new guitar" to look new..... and I do try to keep them looking that way.

    • @BrentAdams
      @BrentAdams Před rokem +1

      @@wadeguidry6675 👍

    • @Relayer6a
      @Relayer6a Před rokem +3

      @@BrentAdams So do I. I think relicing started as a way to be able to sell guitars that had poor finishes. LOL

  • @skidudek2
    @skidudek2 Před rokem +8

    You should flip the poker chip over and see if it has writing on it.

  • @EHCreative
    @EHCreative Před rokem +3

    I had a faded standard a while back and the over scraped binding is the reason i got rid of it. I didn't like feeling the sharp edge where the wood neck met the binding when i played.

  • @williamtm1965
    @williamtm1965 Před rokem +8

    It does not look like a Greenie - it sort of resembles it, but top is way too striped and back/sides are more cherry. It's a great looking guitar on it's own, but too different from Greenie.

  • @Furtheronmusic
    @Furtheronmusic Před rokem +11

    For most of the time the original was in Gary Moore's hands it had Schaller m6 tuners in so for me (Peter and Gary fan) they look spot on.

  • @user-xl3ld4fb2j
    @user-xl3ld4fb2j Před rokem +7

    Wow, Mine showed up on Wednesday, Big difference. Serieal number is November 1 2022, weighs 9lbs 15oz. A Tank. Neck and binding much cleaner. I've been really happy so far through my Orange 20 amp and really fun with the fender mustang micro and bose head phones. Oh yeah, GC knocked $300 bucks off online and shipped to the door in 4 Days.

    • @NytronX
      @NytronX Před 7 měsíci

      I just ordered a 10lb 5oz behemoth with a top that looks like SSJ3 flames. It's literally the best top I've ever seen on a Les Paul anywhere online or in person. Better than any top on an R8, R9, or R0.

  • @kennethh2430
    @kennethh2430 Před rokem +18

    IDK $3199, visually it reminds me of a Gibson LP Tribute or a nice Epi LP with satin finishes. Kudos on the pickups. To spend over $3k and then have to mod it to make it more "authentic" seems terrible. I'll stick with Gibson LP Custom Shops, nicer Standards, and nice Traditional T's. Thanks for the review Trogly, great as usual!

    • @lfader
      @lfader Před rokem

      I've owned many Les pauls and custom shop Les Paul Customs from A to Z are turned out and I just keep coming back to those I own two right now getting a third for whatever reasons we have multiple guitars always needing one more The top on this guitar looks cool and I'm glad they didn't let some 8-year-old with a pair of scissors Xzacto knife blowtorch and sandpaper do their version of distressing horrible
      LP tributes are horrible cheap and I won't even go to epiphone's and whatever's going on there.
      These pickups are pivotal on this guitar for the money for all the hype of what it is it'll be a 5K+ guitar in about 10 minutes so with the spike in Les Paul's the past few years all guitars actually It's just what you can afford and whatever reasons you have to have THAT instrument.

  • @jL-fp7cu
    @jL-fp7cu Před rokem +2

    bought a second hand lp tribute 2019 for a few days with dot inlays.. and what can i say; the lp is s dream, buttersmooth play, lightweight, slimtaper neck, no scatch issues, nice low string action and a tabacco burst top. 750$ with gibson-case btw :D. feels and sounds great. dont know if that greeny would me give more feelings :p .. but as usual, great video!

  • @rajawatts1141
    @rajawatts1141 Před 2 měsíci

    Great review, as alaways. I've seen all your Greeny reviews, and now I await a 300USD Greeny, Comes home in a few days. I don't expect a diamond for so little money, just something to mod and play. I have a LP Standard, faded, I am happy with, plus other Gibsons, just can't follow the prices into the stratosphere. Thank you for your efforts, you are GOLD!

  • @SteveOuimette
    @SteveOuimette Před rokem +23

    It's pretty incredible to see that much of a difference in price between the models, but I get it to a degree. Then again, the $3,200 model should pretty much sound identical to the $50K one. Collector or player...hmm.

    • @MarsHalekGuitar
      @MarsHalekGuitar Před 6 měsíci +2

      You would think a player cares more about the sound than a collector. Well, the collector just wants to imagine the incredible sound a guitar would get if someone actually played it. lol

    • @SteveOuimette
      @SteveOuimette Před 6 měsíci +2

      Truth!@@MarsHalekGuitar

  • @jonathonwearn1098
    @jonathonwearn1098 Před rokem +5

    I really like the satin finish. I just bought my first satin finish guitar, (Ibanez RGT1220PB) and it's flawless looking. It's way better than the glossy poly/acrylic finish on my old PRS Custom 24. That one seems to get a new scratch every month. Lol.

  • @elantric
    @elantric Před rokem +6

    Chrome seems wrong , id prefer Nickel.

  • @RolandSpecialSauce
    @RolandSpecialSauce Před rokem +13

    So basically it's just a satin les paul standard with mixed knobs and different pickups?

    • @ziggystardust1798
      @ziggystardust1798 Před rokem +3

      Bingo!

    • @sixslinger9951
      @sixslinger9951 Před rokem +2

      yep, you could buy a New faded series Les Paul and switch the pickups to greenie and save $400 or more.

    • @NytronX
      @NytronX Před 7 měsíci +3

      and a AAA top. And $300 pickups. And a bound neck. And fret nibs. And a triple artist series guitar from three of the GOAT guitarists. And it's now sold out on Gibson's website and they're linking to the Epiphone version only on the main Greeny page for all four Greeny series.

  • @ludlow555
    @ludlow555 Před rokem +2

    Can you comp the sound samples of each Greeny for a side by side comparison? I’m obsessed with this guitar!

  • @tomrosa4248
    @tomrosa4248 Před rokem +11

    For this price, I would get the Adam Jones LP Standatd.

  • @joesharpe7685
    @joesharpe7685 Před rokem +4

    Does no one else think the back being painted the wrong colour is kinda wild on what is a signature guitar? Like that’s the point 😂

  • @mikec3454
    @mikec3454 Před 8 měsíci +2

    According to the shop I visited today and tried the Greeny, you can buy the Greeny Buckers separately now.
    I liked how it played and sounded. I love the vintage aesthetic. That said, I found the satin finish TOO MUCH. I think it needs a bit of gloss on it for feel. It just feels unfinished, but not in a good way. I don’t know.. it’s still on my list.

  • @Gordanovich02
    @Gordanovich02 Před rokem +20

    I guess my only gripe is that if you're principally looking for the out-of-phase sound, why not get the relevant pickup set from Bare Knuckle, Monty's Guitars, Seymour Duncan, or whoever else, and simply install it in the Les Paul of your choice? Add on another few bucks for replacement knobs and you're there. Plus you could sell the stock pickups to make a little money back.
    Doubtless being an official Greeny model will carry weight for some people though.

    • @mvenuti1980
      @mvenuti1980 Před rokem +5

      Exactly

    • @craiglizt8074
      @craiglizt8074 Před rokem +2

      True. I did that with a set of Bareknuckle PG Blues and it did the trick

    • @mylogify
      @mylogify Před rokem

      @@craiglizt8074 How did they wire the pickups to get that sound? Did you install them to a Les Paul? or Les Paul type of guitar?

    • @craiglizt8074
      @craiglizt8074 Před rokem +1

      @@mylogify I don't recall. I just put them in an LP Standard with 50s wiring and it was good from there.
      I don't own that guitar anymore since I didn't get on with it in other ways.

    • @mylogify
      @mylogify Před rokem

      @@craiglizt8074 Oo ok… Sorry that you don’t have it anymore…

  • @kurdtjohn
    @kurdtjohn Před rokem +7

    You should’ve had it shipped via UPS so you could have something closer to the Custom Shop version. 😂

    • @NytronX
      @NytronX Před 7 měsíci +1

      LOL, aka bring it straight to a luthier for headstock repair.

  • @Smart-Alex
    @Smart-Alex Před rokem +5

    I definitely love my Slash Appetite Burst for the flame-y top but the red back too. That combination to me is vibrant over the brown Greeny back

    • @fendushi
      @fendushi Před rokem +1

      I too bought a Slash Appetite Burst for these same reasons over this guitar.

    • @Smart-Alex
      @Smart-Alex Před rokem +1

      @@fendushi yes 100%!

  • @DDE_ADDICT
    @DDE_ADDICT Před rokem +6

    That is really nice, I love the natural backs

  • @EdHeinzelman
    @EdHeinzelman Před rokem +1

    really like the middle position in all tone tests.

  • @jstrat121
    @jstrat121 Před rokem +4

    I will wait for the Epiphone.

    • @KevinTheMetalhead
      @KevinTheMetalhead Před rokem

      Seeing how much the Dave Mustaine Epis are going for, I wouldn't be surprised if an Epi model of this was $1.5k or more.

  • @damienhick1647
    @damienhick1647 Před rokem

    Was waiting for your review...thanks for that. Have watched other reviews on this guitar as well. In Australia they will be around 6K, so quite expensive. Am tossing up between this and a Fender Custom shop Ltd Ed 51 HS Tele, Aged - about 6.7K here. The US20K version I have seen here for 46k so unreachable really as an option. I have a 2015 LP Standard with real pearl and wider neck/GForce which is actually an excellent guitar, despite the controversy (with 'out of phase' pull knobs on the tone pot). Watching your review I'd probably gut the wiring and redo it, which then I have to ask the question, at 6K, do I bother or just get the Custom Shop Fender. I maybe wrong but after seeing this I am not sure its worth it - or maybe wait and see if they bring out an Epi. I am a massive Moore fan but I don't feel this is 'close enough' at 6K, recognising that I don't expect a US20K result either - just a little closer than what this offers. I’d likely pay say around 8-8.5k Australian for perhaps a version that was custom shop closer to the 20k version. They could have put out a base custom shop model to fill that gap. I’d likely pay that. I would argue this is just a LP with Greeny pickups. I'd be better off with a 50's Standard I think. Much to think about but have to say I am leaning towards the Fender.

  • @Msteve-nt5bx
    @Msteve-nt5bx Před rokem +3

    I like satin finishes... but for $3200....idk

  • @rampman8940
    @rampman8940 Před rokem +5

    Fot that money i'd rather buy a high end tokai love rock from the 80's.

    • @hippiebiker3399
      @hippiebiker3399 Před rokem +2

      I agree! If Tokai had made this it would cost half as much with ZERO QC issues….

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 Před rokem +1

      Or..for 3k...how bout....
      a Collings SC.....

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před rokem

      @@markbaum9615
      Can you get a Collings for $3,000? I’m not sure, but I bet you can get a Heritage for $3,000.

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 Před rokem

      @@charlesbolton8471 ..well close
      Not a custom order....but a nice new old stock sitting around at a dealer can be had around 3k...

  • @JB19504
    @JB19504 Před rokem +5

    I just bought a Slash November Burst which I love, last year. Now I kinda want this. Not too happy about the QC issues, but that's par for the course from Gibson. Oh well. BTW, I love that polish job you did on that satin LP.

    • @yoshshmenge294
      @yoshshmenge294 Před rokem +3

      My first Slash Standard in Nov burst had a gouge out of the binding you could catch your finger nail between the side of the neck and fretboard. They filled it with crazy glue somewhat and shipped it. The replacement had no quality issues other than the nut needed tweaking. I just picked an Adam Jones Standard with no quality issues. Hit and miss with Gibson but when you find the right one…..

  • @beatler90
    @beatler90 Před rokem +12

    Kinda regretted buying a Slash LP and turning the pickups into "Greeny" when I heard there's actually going to be a true Greeny Standard. Having seen your Review I don't regret a thing. This guitar is nice, but not 3.2k nice.

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths Před dnem

      and prefer the pickups on the Slash LP over this guitar. Adam Jones LP has best pickups of all three in terms of great clean, crunch and high gain tone.

  • @metalmig
    @metalmig Před rokem +3

    15:00 wow that Dr willy's Castle theme from Megaman 2 was super cool

  • @vanshankguitars
    @vanshankguitars Před rokem +17

    If the caps are the same values, you won't see any difference in tone, unless the tolerances are way off. No matter the style of construction of the capacitor.

    • @orbitaljellyfish808
      @orbitaljellyfish808 Před rokem +2

      With all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree. We can spare each other the arguments we’ve already heard.
      If we’re both basing from empirical, how cool would it be to experience the other’s evidence? It would be worth being wrong to have my mind changed by that, and maybe a tie-breaker third or fifth party lol

    • @TheGuitarGuy69
      @TheGuitarGuy69 Před rokem +9

      Agreed. I'm a tech and have A/B'd orange drop and bumble bee caps. .022 is .022 from what I heard - zero difference from each other regarding tone that I can hear.

    • @orbitaljellyfish808
      @orbitaljellyfish808 Před rokem +4

      Interesting.
      Well, personally I had like 3 or 4 sets of orange drops, with a variety of voltage ratings but same capacitance, and heard a difference between them. Supposedly this is impossible. Was using alligator clips direct on the pots, in the control cavity; not some breakout board, long leads, or decade box or whatever.
      Then I did the same with a large variety of caps I’d gathered for this purpose; mostly PIO, foil, and some different capacitance ratings among them. It’s a ziploc bag full of em. The best way I can describe what I heard is something like the difference between a sine wave and a human voice; the NOS bumblebees had the most prominently-complex (like a human) voicing, even when the tone knob is effectively off (which still stumps me), and in particular, when single notes ring-out. It wasn’t even close/debatable. I was also focused on all related attributes; action string type/thickness, pick shape/material… I may write a book lol
      I wasted a lot of time, energy, and money not getting the right sound because I first listened to the logical naysayers.
      So, I respect the opinion, but also strongly disagree.
      Pat Furlan has some decent vids testing capacitors in specific ways that reveal differences.

    • @nicholasguitars5527
      @nicholasguitars5527 Před rokem +3

      any difference in sound would be due to rated value and tolerance, construction makes no difference in such a low voltage circuit.

  • @danielc418
    @danielc418 Před měsícem +1

    4:10 re:pick guard, that’s me lol!

  • @rockchunk9417
    @rockchunk9417 Před rokem +9

    Your top is better than mine was, mine looked like it was two different cuts of maple they were two different colours not what I expect for a premium AAA top, mine suffered from the same tooling marks as yours and was 9.7 lbs , I returned it Gibson you need to do better for £3000 !

    • @mylogify
      @mylogify Před rokem +1

      9.7 lbs is heavy, they could make weight relief to get that ''light mahogany'' lightness.

  • @cedricmh8022
    @cedricmh8022 Před rokem +5

    i bought one like this and i am resaling it.
    I prefer by far the finish and sound of my 2022 Standard 60's...
    Thanks for reviewing Austin.

    • @Solidsaw
      @Solidsaw Před 11 měsíci +1

      Why do you prefer the 60s? Can you give a little detail please? Thanks…

  • @28mmRPG
    @28mmRPG Před rokem +10

    I love the faded or satin ones.

    • @MrTPF1
      @MrTPF1 Před rokem

      I'd agree if they were cheaper.

  • @gharleschuan
    @gharleschuan Před rokem +4

    This video has made me think about the whole 50s wiring vs modern. Has anyone noticed much of a difference playing with volume at 10?

  • @5150show
    @5150show Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just ordered one

  • @Desperado665
    @Desperado665 Před rokem +5

    So I don’t have to pay $19k or $50k+ for a heavily damaged guitar? And the more I spend the more damaged it is? Love it.

    • @brandonwoundpickups
      @brandonwoundpickups Před rokem +1

      An old useful common tool gets used and beat up. That's how some guitar players treat their guitars. Like old tools the love and prefer. But some consumers look at a Gibson Guitar as an investment or a trophy. Perfectly fine either way.

  • @smokeybacon7292
    @smokeybacon7292 Před rokem

    Nice Ewan Dobson riffs in the end! 14:45 😊

  • @rajawatts1141
    @rajawatts1141 Před 3 měsíci

    No long tenon under the neck pup! My 2009 LP Standard Faded has nicer fretboard rosewood, looking more like Brazilion, with red black color, mine has even more flame, easily AAAA top. Money just seems to roll away every year as prices just accelerate upwards. Good reviews as I have followed each iteration of Greeny...thanks.

  • @markstewart8171
    @markstewart8171 Před 12 dny

    Megaman 2 woodman level, loved that Trogly. Good job. @14:44

  • @joshs974
    @joshs974 Před rokem +7

    Had to return mine. Neck binding was underlapping the neck on both sides throughout the whole neck. I did love the top.

  • @bassplayer2011ify
    @bassplayer2011ify Před 7 měsíci

    Well we got the Epiphone version. And yes it has the Greeny pickups. Along with Switchcraft jack and selector and CTS pots for 1500. Though something else you might want to look at are 59 Epiphones. American electronics and a satin finish for 1000 though they are limited.

  • @andrewjupina464
    @andrewjupina464 Před rokem

    Did you ever do a review/comparison of the Collector's Choice Melvyn Franks version? I'm interested in the quality of that compared to the 50k version even though it's quite different.

  • @panagiotisexplorer213
    @panagiotisexplorer213 Před rokem +1

    Can you do a review for the Gibson Les Paul Standard 50s Heritage Cherry Sunburst?

  • @damienhick1647
    @damienhick1647 Před rokem

    Now that you have played both the Greenies and Slash Gibsons, what do you prefer? There is no comparison video online I can find that compares in the same video.

  • @brettwolf
    @brettwolf Před rokem

    Hi All. I purchased Austin’s USA Greeny I received it yesterday (thanks for the Fast shipping Austin) and here is my take. 1. Not a fan of mat Finish lots of rough spots around the body. (I’m going to take it to a shop and see if they can buff it to a gloss. A/B against my 2005 Les Paul Classic(I did the Peter Green magnet flip to that one).
    1. Through a Vox AC-15 and Ethos Overdrive they sound quite similar, with Greeny sounding slightly better(the Greeny neck pickup sounds Much clearer than the 496R. The Greeny neck feels much better(Classic has a flatter neck) I ordered a 50’s wiring Bumble bee cap harness from ebay. I’m interested to see if there is a dramatic sounds difference. I think I will keep the Greeny, and sell the Classic, but i definitely dont see a double the price difference (Classic was $1500). Honestly if they had Greeny Standard silkscreened on the headstock I would have liked it more. I am very happy I got the Official Trogly’s Greeny, as if I ever need to sell it for food/rent or high maintenance partner, that pedigree alone will maintain its value👍. Thanks again Austin.

  • @angelalvarez7950
    @angelalvarez7950 Před rokem +6

    Imma wait for the epiphone 😂

    • @sixslinger9951
      @sixslinger9951 Před rokem

      yeah, but it's an epi. MOST of them suck and still have ugly headstocks.

  • @TheGuitarGuy69
    @TheGuitarGuy69 Před rokem +33

    Killer axe! I've purchased 9 Gibson guitars since 2021. 100% of them had QC issues - 2 were returned because they were pretty bad. It's a a shame $3200 gets you substandard results.

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 Před rokem +15

      I'd stop buying Gibson after the 2nd one with QC issues...
      thinking you may not want to buy a 10th flawed overpriced unit.....

    • @rustedsunday7489
      @rustedsunday7489 Před rokem

      @@markbaum9615 no one else is making the exact same guitars

    • @braedonmorrissey7548
      @braedonmorrissey7548 Před rokem

      @@markbaum9615 my example may be rare but I paid like 1400 (canadian mind you) for an sg tribute 2022 model it has no flaws from factory that I nor my brother noticed it is a satin finish though def changes things glad I hit the jackpot with it lmao with all the problems I hear others having I got lucky

    • @modergav
      @modergav Před rokem +2

      Guys, lets be honest here: Gibson had QC issues in the 50's, 60's 70's 90's (the guitars were actually great but the nitro on the early 90's not that much), 00 and so forth. It kinda became part of their branding by now. the good old underpaid and undertrained American labour. I have a good friend who works at Nashville. He say that they are mostly great people working there. Hardworking people. I see the QC issue at Gibson as a GIBSON problem. Wich is a shame because i do love their stuff and I had quite a few of them. A love and Hate relationship here ahahaha

    • @modergav
      @modergav Před rokem

      ​@@rustedsunday7489 For better or worse I guess.

  • @hellodrjeckyl
    @hellodrjeckyl Před rokem +3

    Sweet guitar. I was gassing for this bad boy bad. Luckily I wasn't able to get one before they sold out. My local GC just got an Adam Jones Standard in stock last week and I bought it this weekend instead. When I got there it was still in the back and unplayed by grubby hands. I love it!
    I think I'll just get some Seymour Duncan Green Magic's with my gear rewards and put them in my 60's unburst instead.

    • @benallmark9671
      @benallmark9671 Před rokem

      Love the unburst , it’s the best of the bursts IMO.

    • @nigelsmith721
      @nigelsmith721 Před rokem +1

      I bought an Unburst about a year ago. It's a keeper.

    • @VN9001
      @VN9001 Před 8 měsíci

      That Adam Jones Standard plays and sounds killer - especially with the Ebony fretboard. I bought one too! 😁

  • @michaelheller8841
    @michaelheller8841 Před rokem +1

    For it to sound different not just in the wood and electronics, the PUPS can be completely different even
    though they are all Greeny Buckers. Hand wound instead of not, and also wax potted instead of unpotted.
    There would be much more attention to detail in a Custom Shop vs. the USA. Even a Custom Shop that is $10000
    less lol. When you pick it up you notice a difference right away. Still at $3200 having a signature name is
    not too bad. It is a Kirk, not a Greeny lol. I'm curious to check out the USA one, who knows, I would have
    to play it to love it or not. Excellent video, thanks for showing one in and out.

  • @huangss00
    @huangss00 Před 7 měsíci

    14:44 I recognize that theme, LOL. Mega Man 2, Dry Wiley stage 1 except played in a different key, LOL

  • @mordokch
    @mordokch Před rokem +4

    Can anyone tell me what this guitar has to do with the greeny moore ? I suppose it's a nice enough guitar, but it's literally nothing at all like a greeny, not in any respect at all. Did I miss something ?

    • @hippiebiker3399
      @hippiebiker3399 Před rokem +1

      Absolutely nothing. Gibson and Hammett making a $ off of the name. I’m sure it’s a nice guitar, but it doesn’t give me “Greeny/Moore” vibes at all and definitely not worth $3000 to me.

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths Před dnem

    I really love these semi affordable quality signature artist Les Paul guitars. Played Slash LP and loved it but need to try this one and the Adam Jones LP to decide which to get.

  • @cosmikrelic4815
    @cosmikrelic4815 Před rokem +9

    i don't know man, trogly is always making excuses for the poor workmanship on gibsons, you shouldn't have to sand the edges of the binding or put up with qc issues on a $3000 guitar. guitars that cost half that are pretty near perfect.

    • @hippiebiker3399
      @hippiebiker3399 Před rokem +3

      I agree. You would never find those issues on a $3000 + guitar of any other brand.

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 Před rokem +2

      My Harley Benton SC Special
      Had no flaws for 1/10 the $

  • @ChrisH575
    @ChrisH575 Před rokem

    Does anyone know where you can buy a set of the custom shop gold knobs? Not the regulars but custom shop. Thanks

  • @windward2818
    @windward2818 Před 23 dny

    The tailpiece ground is a tin plated solid copper buss wire (16 AWG?). I think the better choice is a single conductor 18 AWG silver plated copper high stranded Teflon coated wire. The strands spay out (unwind the strands and splay them out before installation) more effectively around the tailpiece cylindrical wood threaded insert without offsetting the insert or making it difficult to install. The solid copper buss wire would probably have to flatted out somewhat in order to work without a great deal of pounding. The Teflon insulation will not melt when soldering the wire to the back of a pot. Given the length of the bus wire of the guitar in the video, why not solder the tailpiece ground to the ground lug connection on the two terminal lug solder strip?

  • @ajwadrahik2586
    @ajwadrahik2586 Před rokem

    i would have loved it more if they would have placed the les paul logo and would have put the Kh signature logo on the truss rod cover . Apart from that this its an absolutely gorgeous looking guitar

  • @Andrew_Knox
    @Andrew_Knox Před 6 měsíci

    Loved the Mega Man, Dr Wily cover! 😎

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover Před rokem +8

    My prediction for an Epiphone version is a Burstbucker in the bridge and a flipped Burstbucker in the neck. No way will they do a Greeny set for the Epi and I'm guessing the same satin finish as their version of the R9.
    Not sure what tuners they'd use, but I'm sure they'll at least do the tone and volume dials

    • @mortonwilson795
      @mortonwilson795 Před rokem +2

      I'd be very happy with an Epi - esp if they do the satin finish - then flip in some Monty's Bethnal Greens.

    • @craigusselman546
      @craigusselman546 Před rokem +2

      From what I hear Kirk likes the Epi the best of all the Greeny copies lol

    • @MuscleCarLover
      @MuscleCarLover Před rokem

      @@craigusselman546 Yeah, didn't he say it was his couch guitar? I heard that even that has a Greeny specific Burstbucker

  • @truthtobehonest
    @truthtobehonest Před rokem +1

    Are those bumblebee caps from the other 2 available? Did you get the ratings of those caps?

  • @Masterfighterx
    @Masterfighterx Před rokem +5

    Uneven finish, tooling marks, stuff that shouldn't be on a $3000+ guitar, touching a $3000+ guitar with sand paper shouldn't have to be done either.
    Good thing other brands aren't copying Gibson on that, otherwise they'd probably come after them. 😂

  • @ericolson326
    @ericolson326 Před rokem +1

    My first LP came with a gloss top but a satin back and neck. Wasn't an intentional choice on my part, but it's pretty much spoiled me for all other Gibsons 😆

  • @SagaMediaNet
    @SagaMediaNet Před rokem +1

    I'm thankful I invested in the 2015 era gibsons I've got some nice models and the standard honey burst I spec'd to Greeny isn't far off. (before people say yes the robot tuners and circuit boards are swapped out 😅)

    • @damienhick1647
      @damienhick1647 Před rokem +2

      I have a 2015 LP standard. Still stock. Love the wider neck, tuners and pickups. Also in Honeyburst. We are blessed to have real pearl I think and out of phase push pulls. Outstanding guitars.

  • @StreetPreacherr
    @StreetPreacherr Před rokem +1

    How do they decide whether to use a LIGHTWEIGHT v.s. FULL WEIGHT tailpiece?
    Is taipiece weight a specification from a certain era? Or is tailpiece weight it just a 'random' choice? OR does it depend on the weight of the GUITAR? I can't imagine it would make much difference, but do they, for instance, use lightweight tails on examples with heavier wood?
    I mean with SIGNATURE models I assume it would be the artist's choice? I'm sure there are people who find that maybe a HEAVY tailpiece results in better 'sustain' or something?

  • @PopeyeFPV
    @PopeyeFPV Před rokem +3

    I kinda like it. Just gotta flip that neck pickup around and fix the nobs to the desired choice and you got something. I like the satin finish as well.

  • @jcrbama
    @jcrbama Před 8 měsíci

    @15:00 Well, I never thought I'd hear music from Mega Man 2 in a guitar review. I really had to ask myself if that it really was the music from Dr. Wiley's castle that I was hearing.

  • @nakleh
    @nakleh Před rokem +2

    I looooove that satin finish. Makes me wanna touch it

  • @AS__77
    @AS__77 Před rokem +17

    Nice review! They definitely need to sell those pickups on their own.
    If you like this guitar and Greeny Les Pauls but want something a little cheaper and glossed, maybe try the Les Paul Standard in Unburst finish. Some of those are pretty close to Greeny looking.

    • @sixslinger9951
      @sixslinger9951 Před rokem +2

      Seymour Duncan makes Greenie style pups for $360

    • @stratman9449
      @stratman9449 Před 6 měsíci

      i just bought a SG61 faded Gibson for 1750.-Euros......thats fine and expensive enough for what it is.....instead of a Les Paul i have now ordered a prs mccarty sc SE....for about 900.- and that's the much better guitar...looks, sounds and playability.

  • @stevesuv
    @stevesuv Před 3 měsíci

    Peter played mostly on the bridge. His best out of phase tone was on his Strat.

  • @vincesantacruz4262
    @vincesantacruz4262 Před 2 měsíci

    Actually, if you work the volume and tone knobs while in the middle position you can get some amazing sounds/tones. Love this guitar

  • @samvermeulen9740
    @samvermeulen9740 Před 10 měsíci

    I have a standard faded with a cherry back (or at least darker)

  • @rhameirchavez1721
    @rhameirchavez1721 Před měsícem

    How’s the neck compared to slash model? I was able to grab the neck on a slash model and it wasn’t chunky for me. I prefer a small neck for my standard size hands.

  • @zeppelinboys
    @zeppelinboys Před 19 dny

    i like my SG faded, but i paid $600 for it. if they are trying to save money i seriously don't mind them 'skipping' a finish. i like seeing the wood grain, and the thin satin-nitro lacquer feels AMAZING and wears wonderfully.

  • @jimilee459
    @jimilee459 Před rokem +2

    I feel like it wasn’t as bright, but I think I’d like to hear a side by side comparison.

  • @jesusarriaga8761
    @jesusarriaga8761 Před rokem +6

    A stunning guitar!!! It looks like my Epi Lazarus….

  • @PonziZombieKiller
    @PonziZombieKiller Před rokem +2

    I'm a Green God fan. But I like this clean model better than the others. Although I'll never be able to afford one.

  • @GonzoFlores
    @GonzoFlores Před rokem

    Thank you for the Mega Man Wiley’s theme snuck in there. Cheers

  • @Drforrester31
    @Drforrester31 Před rokem +5

    Dude, Dr. Wily Stage 1 from Mega Man 2?? Excellent choice. Makes me want to go listen to the Advantage now

  • @r33th
    @r33th Před rokem +3

    "my dealer definitely hooked me up on this one" -Trogly 2023

  • @paultrombetta
    @paultrombetta Před rokem +3

    Holy crap the QC

  • @stevengood6434
    @stevengood6434 Před rokem +2

    If it's not 50s wiring in that one it will make a difference in the sound. Nice top on that one

  • @dave64k
    @dave64k Před rokem +1

    You should add the Vintage V100MRPG Lemon Drop for the full range of 'Greenies' starting from 500 bucks

  • @unclefungus7395
    @unclefungus7395 Před rokem

    i love the satin finish with a polish, look almost like a vos finish

  • @catmandoodoo7903
    @catmandoodoo7903 Před rokem +2

    Or just buy an early ‘00s trans amber Std with your preferred neck shape, spend £200 on a set of Greenie clone pickups and £70 on some terrible looking Schallers.

  • @michaelsakells169
    @michaelsakells169 Před rokem

    OK that middle position sounds pretty good imo, still I'm happy with my standard 50s model from 2020.

  • @donarmando916
    @donarmando916 Před 10 měsíci

    Lemon burst is very nice but the flamed maple is far off. However ist sounds pretty good.

  • @intoit1074
    @intoit1074 Před rokem

    Trogly, what did you do to buff out the satin finish? I have a 335 satin that I’d like to convert to gloss

    • @damienhick1647
      @damienhick1647 Před rokem +1

      All Gibson basically start out as satin finish. They are cheaper to make. It’s the polishing that takes time. It will be a very fine cut polish.

  • @modergav
    @modergav Před rokem +3

    It is me or this guitar sounds bit less defined on Mids and highs compared to the CS example? The sound was a bit mushy to my taste

  • @misternobody4786
    @misternobody4786 Před rokem

    I got a pickguard with a mod shop 335 that was not drilled for one - only the insane would install

  • @An2oine
    @An2oine Před rokem +2

    That satin finish is SWEEEEET!