$900 P Bass Vs $2400 P Bass - Precision Bass Shootout
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
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So I’ve just got a brand new bass… whoop... I LOVE new bass days.
I thought it’d be fun to film a video where I put it up against my Fender Nate Mendal P bass…
In a nutshell - a P bass shootout! ;)
One bass is worth $900… the other is worth $2400… but, can you guess which one wins?!
And, once you’ve watched it - let me know which bass you prefer the tone of in the comments under the video, and why!
As always, see you in the shed…
Scott :)
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Oqsy God bless you
Oh hell, somebody call the police! We have to arrest Scott for that!
Congratulations on the new studio, Scott! There are few things more exciting in life that creating a new space custom to the needs of your creative expressions. I'm buzzing on your excitement and looking forward to following your adventures here!
Nigga balls
Thanks Scott for that. It is nice to really hear the diffrences between those two one.
Don't you love that moment when you get that long box with the nice new bass inside?
The Moollon is beautiful. Love that 'dolphin' gray with the brown pickguard.
Does anybody know where the Nate Mendel P Bass is manufactured? Made in USA or somewhere else? I'm trying to gauge the relative quality of the build.
that s great!
You should do this a lot!
Since most the followers are amateur musicians and do not have high budget, this kind of videos helps us a lot!
Thanks again Scott!
Ahhhh thanks - great to know you enjoyed it, I enjoyed making it too!
But in all honesty Scott, thanks for your lessons. ive become that much more of a bassist thanks to a lot of the information you share with us fellow bassists. so, thanks, a lot
My pleasure Andrew! Keep groovin man :)
Awesome! I love Nate Mendel's sound, but your final argument was the same as mine: NM with some compressor can sound pretty similar to Moollon, but you'll never get the Moollon sound with NM. But both are awesome and beautiful!
Interesting point about the body resonance, my father bought a fretless bass a while back and claims that there's a span of 2-3 frets on one of the strings that feels 'dead.' Makes you appreciate the craftsmanship of instruments just that little bit more to know what goes into making them sound full with any frequency! Congrats for the killer new bass and thanks for the video!
Great video Scott. Especially cuz I'm looking for a new P-bass myself. Also got here by your instagram vlogs. Keep on going! Cheers.
Loving the new vlog style Scott!
When I saw the 900 vs 2400 title, I thought of a few basses Scott might be comparing, but I immediately thought, "When is he going to check out a Moollon?" Lo and behold!
Nice new bass, enjoyed the video for sure!
Today Im gonna compare a bass you can't afford and another bass you really really can't afford.
Fun video! thanks Scott!
Hi
The problem I have with sound comparisons is that the strings on each guitar tends to be different, also one set tends to be older strings than the other. I wish that people who do comparisons would use fresh new strings of the same brand on both guitars, then a true sound comparison can be made.
Anyway, beautiful guitars, beautiful playing, you're a top bloke! Thanks for the video. Bless.
A very big difference in the sound and I agree with your choice since you can always adjust the tone to match the Nate.
Damn that's a beauty Scott! I don't have a good bass since I moved to Japan, so I can't wait till I can buy a proper one :)
Scott, hey congrats on Moollon, I knew you gonna get it eventually sounds great and I love the finish!!!! best g
Goran, how's it going brother! Yeah the finish rocks... I might get some cream pickup covers too - I reckon it'd look pretty sweet ;)
Scott's Bass Lessons Oh yes, I always forget possibilities on pimping the pickups, man your little girl is growing fast. C ya
Thanks Scott. I think both basses have their place, but I agree with your comment about darkening a twangy tone. I love to do that myself. I'm curios though, how the basses would sound, if they both had a new set of the same strings. The red bass sounds like it has an old set on it, to my ears.
Does the fender have older strings? Usually that makes your bass sound darker.
The strings on both basses are brand new Nolan - although they are different brands (I almost got it right, lol!)
hi Scott. thanks for the vid and all your lessons. on a neck to neck comp, shouldn't there be two same brand/type strings?
Nolan G I'd wondered the same thing. Definitely preferred the sound of the Moolon though, it's got some bite to it. I bought a 1980 aria pbass 18 mths ago. $700 AUD. It's got some serious growl.
Nolan G I have flatwound strings or whatever u call it
Nolan G I've had experience with that one muted string compared to the rest and I've found it wasa problem the string Everytime
Did the same in my local music store last tuesday. I tried out a squier pj and fender 50s preci
I think this is a perfect review of the difference between a cheaper bass and a more expensive bass. I have two Warwicks (a p/j combo pro series and a custom neck thru $$) and an active j-style Rockbass by Warwick. The difference in sound is in the variety of sound. The expensive ones have active/passive switches and better tone controls. The biggest reason to have a more expensive instrument is for the musician, not the audience. The finishes are just nicer and it makes the instrument a little more playable. Like smoother fret ends, a faster neck, more comfortable body, or glow in the dark side dots. You can definitely gig a cheaper instrument, you will just enjoy the ride more with a more finished instrument.
YES finally got a current vid...love u bro...since I've found ur vids I've really started fixing my foundation. ..too bad I can't afford the school
Keep groovin' J, thanks for the support! :)
nice guitars! If you want to brighten up your SD-equiped guitar, put a 0.047uF cap in series with the pickup hot lead. You can also measure the volume pot kohms with a meter and find one in the same target but measures higher kohms (pots have a 20% range), or go up to the next common size 250k->500k->1Meg. I find you can always use the tone knob on a 'bright' guitar but it won't fix muddy. Great studio space.
I'm a regular 6-stringer, only really "messed around" with the bass... but recently I've really started taking it seriously and really enjoying it (mostly because I bought a brand new Epiphone Tobias IV, absolute beauty).
And you've become my go-to guy for anything bass, from beginner stuff to the stuff I'm hearing you say now (about the resonance in the wood, and I agree). It's an honour and a privilege to have a bass pro as my tutor, available 24/7 (it's 1:44am right now. lol). Thank you for what you do. I'm certain I'm not the only one who appreciates your videos. Please keep it up.
And P.S.
I recently watched the movie Split with James McAvoy, and you guys are like twins. lol
Oh, and the Moollon sounds seriously tasty. It sounds more "alive".
The Fender sounds a bit (dare I say) generic.
I prefer the Fender I love that punchy/burpy sound
The Moollon kills it. I wasn't a P-bass fan until I heard it.
Same
I like the "darker" vibe on red one. :D
It's more "wooden", I guess...
Congrats on the new bass. Gorgeous! As was said below, the differences in the strings will be pretty huge, eh? Not to say the Moolon doesn't have a better sound (I'm picking it does), though perhaps not so drastic. Would be easy to compare them both with new strings, both with flats, both with two week old strings, etc. Though might get tedious...! Thanks for ... well, everything you do.
Scott, I like the sound of the new bass b/c of the pre CBS wound pickups. Both sound really good and I suppose I would use them for different gigs. On another note any future plans to do lessons on fretless bass? I play a fretless Tony Franklin.
I always loved the Nate, but you can really hear the difference in quality with the Moollon. Stunning bass.
Hey Scott... you should give the Yamaha BB line a shot if you get the chance... the tone's somewhat similar to a P-bass with a bridge pickup but with a bunch of extra resonance.
That Moolon was made to wear a set of Labella medium gauge flats!
Player makes the instrument and not the other way around... I used to be a real snob when it came to guitars now I just follow my gut. I'm learning to appreciate imperfections in instruments these days; they force you to play differently in order to adapt to a instruments short comings and it can really add to your individual style. Anyway... enjoy your new bass scott, sounds awesome!
Thanks men, bless, and send a big hug.
Nice review Scott :) I personally have an Nate Mendel and Swap pickups for a more vintage sound with Seymour Duncan SB1. Still hard to compare instruments with different hardware, strings brand age etc...But in the end is the feel and the vibes that counts...
Absolutely - feel and vibe is EVERYTHING! :)
the nate mendell sounds so big and deep, love the red as well. The moollon sounds super punchy and and all around solid though, they are both great in my op.
Wow Prof X Men playing superb Bass Lines.
The Moulan is it for me too. No question.
Haha! I need one of those shed signs!
The bridge makes a great part in the tone. Great Bass btw
nice bass Scott congratulations
Nice BMW! I got the 2-door version in red. :D
Sweet new bass Scott
Cheers dude
I think the Moollon has a Macassar ebony fingerboard, but tailored to sound like a pre-CBS Fender
When you cant afford either of these...
thats okay because the 900$ bass isnt actually 900$ its 2400-2700$
FatGreySquirrel oh good. i guess i better stick to my air guitar. thanks for the offer tho...
squier p vintage modified and MAYBE new p.u....
@@EricNeuls the nate mendel is 924 dollars on sweet water right now..not sure where you're getting 2400 dollars. The moolon is that price.
"when you cant afford either of these " tonnes of music shops offer layaway and or financing .. also getting a better job never hurt anyones pocket book either
Cool color too. I was checking out their site and don't even see that color in the samples. Maybe it is your lighting. Sounds "Fantastic" (said in a Scott voice.) :)
I agree that thing sounds amazing. Sadly I'm more of a $200 MIM pawn shop bass.
I love them both.
Love the English semi-detached houses! And the brick and wood in the studio! Oh my God. Anyway, having to choose between one bass and another that is more than 2x the price...
a proper comparison would be to make sure they both had the exact same set of new strings on them...
Hey, Scott, how about compare you new Moollon with your new RocknRoll Relics? Same price range and so beautiful basses should be competitive! Anyway thanks for so great review!
i have a 62 precision and that bass sounds pretty darn similar totally different but i like both of them
Keep in mind that the Moollon has a Macassar Ebony fretboard, not rosewood, like the Fender.
and that none of their basses cost 900$....
different but both sound great, SBL!
am I the only one that feels like Scott is my friend since a long long time ago ?
that grey bass sounds fantastic
Curious about your thoughts on how the rosewood fingerboard (vs maple, for instance) effects your tone? Something you specifically seek out in your basses? Love the videos! Thanks!
Both are excellent basses, that Mulan is wild! First time ever hearing about it. Love thicker necks on P Basses.
yeah I'm still trying to get used to the thicker necks - I'm convinced the thicker neck adds to the tone of the bass too - more wood and resonance etc.
moollon!
Fun review, Thanks!!!! I've always been a pj guy, but recently got hold of a wilkinson vintage icon v4 p bass, which is an interesting change for me. I think it may be closer to the new 'moolong' one you reviewed here. My particular one is very lightweight and sounds very vintagey.... i wonder if you've played it?
I love your studio; you must be in the UK? I also play both electric guitars and basses unplugged; you can tell very much by how it resonates, as you said. As you said, wood grows in the ground. I find a HUGE variation in the same model of bass or guitar, just by the particular piece of wood used. And so i mostly buy from shops where i can actually play the instrument....Great review!! ....do you find yourself collecting an embarrasing number of basses? I sure do!
Awesome new studio. We should all make a bet about how many times your going to crack your head on those beams!! haha! I would have loved to hear your Fender Custom Relic thrown into the mix. How do you find that bass compares to the other two?
Great idea... I've actually just been getting it set up and I'm picking it up in the next few days - I'll make a vid on it when I get it back :)
The Nate Mendel has a distinct mid-focus to its sound. I'd wonder how it would do in a band context. It may be a situation where bright rounds on the Mendel and flats on the Moolon would get them closer to each other or even just sound good, irrespective of comparisons.
That BMW estate is the best bass player/family man car I have ever seen. #loveit
Boom! ;)
New bass day. Always good. Great video, thanks.
Anyways, I'm gassing after a Nate P-bass. Currently playing in a Foos / Qotsa tribute thing and I'm only a few miles away.
Sell me it? 😆
*grabs squire bass.... resonates perfectly ;)*
Can you do a Jazz Bass comparisson as well? I own an SX J-Bass myself and I deffinitely LOVE it. I'd like to know more about different brands, sounds and tips about this kind of bass.
Greetings from Argentina!!
Oh man, I love a phat and thick P bass neck. I feel like I have more space to move and maneuver and mute and it just feels so nice to hold. Just came off of a Squire aPJ into a Roger Waters Fender P with an OG P neck and SD Quarter Pounders - sooo nice. A bit hot for my liking, but I’m gonna butter it out with flats
Moollon!!!!! What a thing!!!!
I have owned and built many basses and never found body wood to affect badly the sound, it always seemed to reside in the neck wood, yet in most cases issues were in the hardware or bolt-on area. Basses have different vibes like a woman, which is why I ain't married! LOL! But my fav over-all go-to bass is a F Jazz I pieced together for about $300 with parts from eBay - go figure.
Hey Scott, love the P bass madness! What are your thoughts on Stingray style basses? I notice you don't have one in your collection.
There are few things better than opening the box to a new bass!!
I have the same hot bath sign on my door too haha
I have been arguing about tone wood with many amateur lately. Obviously on a bass it has a whole lot of influence, on guitar too but high pitch notes vibrations seems to sound anyways. Low tones however relies on the neck to propagate the vibration to the body. Poplar has that nice warm fat tone, very responsive. I would like to make a cherry wood bass in a near future. It's said to have a nice ton, like an acoustic bass. I will carve a bass and a guitar in a near future.
Hey from Dublin. Cool Video man and a super cool axe. Have you ever tried a "Bravewood" Bass, Handmade in Cornwall. He's making me a Heavy Relic Fender 57 P Bass with Tele head (ala Sting)
Hey Scott, I loved this video. I also loved how the channel has become a lot like a vlog thing, and for that I think you should change its name back to Scott Devine, while keeping promoting your platform at the end of the videos. What do you think?
i love your blog style
I bought a Moollon bass because I had played one from my teacher here in LA and I liked the feel and vibe. My complaint is that for that price point it was lacking a bit. After a while I took it to my "guy" Mo here in LA who works with high end basses because the humidity finally did a number which was to be expected. The problem that the tech pointed out was for that price the frets needed to "be dressed" (smoothed and rounded), which he expected to be done during production so that it was smooth and easy to play. He also pointed out a number of flaws in the finish and said that it had not been treated long enough and it resulted in flaws. So of course it made me think that paying that much you would expect not to have those kinds of issue. It sounds great and has some great qualities but I wanted to put in my two cents worth. In fact, I'm selling it for a great price.
New bass starts 2:31
would love to hear the Moollon against a new Am. Pro series P bass at some point.
from the cam mic ,I hear brighter, maybe newer strings though.WOnder what maple fret board would sound like
Hi Scott, was wondering what kind of camera do you use to record this video. they looked great and sounds are good too!
How about any of the Bill Nash relic basses? I've heard great stuff about em
I've got a Nash 63 P Bass and I love it. I ordered a Moollon bass but ran across the Nash bass and bought it before the Moollon arrived. Now I play the Nash all the time and the Moolon is almost untouched ( I like the Moollon, don't get me wrong). The Nash immediately feels worn in and comfortable AND you don't have to worry about banging up or dinging the finish. I got two nicks on the Moollon because the Nitro finish is so sensitive. The Nash is definitely worth checking out and comes in under the Moollon price.
www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=47291
nuff said.
The Moollon sounds brighter to me. I supossed that the strings of the 900$ P bass are older too. Both basses are fine
The Mike Dirnt P-Bass is actually really great sounding and versatile.
I'd say the Fender sounds better even with the older set of strings on it.
Ive noticed on my Fender Mexican Jazz bass the 5th fret on the G string goes dead very quickly and when distortion is on pretty full on its turns into a harmonic.
I have 4 basses. a used US P-bass that cost me 800 euros. A Yamaha RBX 300 that cost me $300 (I've had it for 20 years), an 5 string Infinity (60 euros + 1 euro for used Ibanez pickups, the stock ones were terrible) and a 5 euros fretless something _and_ other (literally! An Aria Pro II neck stuck onto a nondescript body I had to carve for fit) They all play great.
Moolon! you dog!! those basses are incredible. Tim Lefebvre uses those! congrats, man!
Scott, I saw that Moolon has different options for colors, is your precision bass Inca Silver, plus Red Sparkle pickguard? I love the combination you chose!
I owned a '68 P bass I bought when I was 20, back in the early '80's. Unfortunately it was stolen out of a club when we were on break, and yet NO ONE saw who stole it.
Hi Scott, love the video, have you got a link to Moulin....?
I like the sound in both, but I kind of prefer the red one. I don't play bass myself but I'm bass curious 😛. Wold love to try and learn. I play a little guitar and piano but always loved the sound of the bass.Any recommendations for a good bass to start out on for learning?
What you like more, youtuber?? Jazz Bass or Precission Bass?? The Fender sound or the Moollon sound?? Personal opinion right down her!!
I prefer the Jazz Bass because i'm more of a metalhead, i really don't like precision basses but in this video i prefer the Moollon over the Fender
It's funny that you say that because my understanding is that a P-Bass is the preferred Bass for metal (if you were choosing from Jazz or P). I think most metal players nowadays use active basses. Play what makes you happy though, no reason you can't rock out on a J-Bass.
Oh, i didn't know that. I just looked up my favourite metal bassists and none of them were using P-Basses :DD
HazyMan , I like metal but also classical baroque music, and I tought the sound of precision basses were more metal sounding because they were more standard, more square, don't you think? what's your idea plz
Idk, i just thought the Jazz one was more suitable for metal than Precision just because none of my favourite bassists are using Precision but you're right, the P-Bass sound sounds a bit heavier indeed, i still prefer the Jazz though, it just sounds better in general in my opinion
I have a 1980 Electra and it has the best sound of all my basses. The electronics help give it a wide variety of sounds for any genera.
I love Steve Lawson's payoff at the end. Just... wonderful.
*** A good tip for Opening a package box:
Press the box to you chest with the tape going forward in front of you. Put both hands around the box with hands on either side of where the tape ends.
Then take you hands and press the box in and you'll see the tape separate from the box. Just pull the tape off and the box should still be in good condition.
NOW I should mention this is better with lighter, a little more hollower boxes like amazing packages and boxes of food/snacks. I haven't tried it on large packages like guitars & cases. But still, you should try it.
It's so funny how your face totally changes when you start playing Funk. It's a mix between bliss and pain.
hey Scott how's it going I hope all is well. whichever base you decide that you don't want let me know I'll be more than happy to come by and pick it up from you...lol my favorite sounding bass is my 1982 mij Fender precision all original it just has that sound you know what I mean.... thank you so much for all that you do