Rise and Fall of Valyria - Game of Thrones Lore DOCUMENTARY
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Wizards and Warriors animated fantasy documentary lore video series on GRR Martin's world of Ice and Fire continues. Previously, we have covered the story of the rise and fall of the Targaryens ( • Rise and Fall of the T... ) and the story of the Game of Thrones before the Winds of Winter ( • Game of Thrones - Full... ). Our new series will deal with the earliest history of Essos and Valyria and in the first episode we will talk about the clash between the Dragon and the Harpy - the so-called Ghiscari Wars, as the Old Empire of Ghis and the rising new power of the Valyrian Freehold clash in brutal conflict. The expansion of Valyria continued against the Rhoynar and Andals, and eventually led to the defeat of the Rhoynar and coming of Nymeria and her ten thousand ships to Westeros. In this video, we will also describe the doom of Valyria, telling the story of its fall.
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Valyrians defeat the ghiscaris.
The slaves: yeah we're free.
Valyrians:"Oh I wouldn't say free. More like under new management.
😂 Under a new even worse administration
As it should be.
The worst managers in history
@@Dell-ol6hb yep, not only slaves but also fuel for blood magics yeeeeyyyy
agreed
It's crazy how we have all these billionaires running around an practically none of them ever go, "Hey, I love this book series so much that I'm gonna contract this production company to adapt it into an animated show (because live action is too expensive & takes years to produce)". The Japanese have no idea how great they have it.
For real. Our billionaires are more wrapped up in making more billions while spending the least amount of money possible. Like bro you’re rich, your dad was rich, your grandpa was rich, I promise you can fund some fun stuff without losing the family jet
"a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long"
5000 years are half as long?
@@user-vf3pe9ce5x i was more refering to the fact it took a long time to build the empire only for it to be wiped out in instant.
the Ghiscari empire was said to be thousands of years old already when Valyria was just starting out.(The cities of slavers bay consider themselves the successors/remains of old Ghis so it could be argued it's still in existence)
House stark(and other major houses) and Winterfell(and other cities/castles) are said to have originated 10k years ago
@@user-vf3pe9ce5xbelieve it or not, yes.
Dude, you know what the fuck the original commenter meant. Gtfo
Who else wants an HBO series about the Rise and Fall of Valyria?
I no longer want any adaptation of grrm’s books. My love for his work only makes me mad when I see it butchered 😢
@@edwinpreciado5701 I don't understand this sentiment considering we'll always have the original sources.
I’d prefer it done animated so there’d be no budget constraints.
I do..
@BleedForTheWorld that is beyond me, the destroyed Alicent Hightower on HOTD and the entire 2nd season is pure trash.
26:10 the Valeryians at their height had more around 800-1000 Dragons, those 300 were probably the bigger and stronger ones rather then all the dragons, and most of those were equal in size, or bigger than Dragons like Balerion the black dread, and Vhagar, and the smallest ones would probably be as big as Vermithor or Sheepstealer
I will love a series about them
That leaves very little room for size differences. I don’t think dragons are immortal, so there would be plenty of young small ones too.
@@LouisKing995 Balerion died fairly young, since he was heavily injured some years before I'd argue it cut out some years from his life due to his adventure with Aerea, so I'd say most dragons live over 200 years old, younger then 300, and alot of them lay a clutch of multiple eggs so they repopulated decently well.
@@LouisKing995 not immortal but they age slower then humans I’ll tell u that
@@jojocasimir1118 Sure but Black dread and Vaghar are feeling their age at like 150 so over the 5000+ year history of the Freehold plenty of dragons would have grown old and died and many new ones would need to be hatched.
This is exactly what the fandom needs...
Sadly we are giving a bad season final
Seeing what they have done to GOT and what they are doing to HOTD, I rather not .
@@mahimainduwara643keep it animated
@@alexneffit was a great season finale. yall just want dragon fights lol barbaric.
I’d like to see Valyria. The houses. The dragonlords. The infrastructure of their cities.
I would dearly love a book on the history of the Freehold families. A history of the prominent families and Aenar’s predecessor Targaryrian Lords who lived in Valyria. Their names and stories.
This video is superb! Not only the storytelling but the graphics, the 3D map as it was a game, all really well done (and no AI generated images)
Man if Sega could make a dedicated Westeros Total War...The current fan mods are fantastic.
the TW devs, Creative Assembly, have lost all grasp on making a good game. Those fan mods you mention are probably just better
Obvious AI
Love the animation of this!
One who's observant enough can see the resemblance between the Valyrian Freehold and our Roman Empire, with the Ghiscari Wars as the Punic Wars against Carthage, the conflicts in Sothoryos as the conquest of Britain, the Rhoynar as the Greeks, and much more. I still find it astonishing to believe that an empire built on fantastical beasts and sorcery could fall so easily.
Romans didn’t conquer Britain, though. They built a wall so they could keep the Scot’s out 😂 Hadrians wall, the inspiration for the Wall in GOT. Keep those ‘northmen out’.
Very good, but they wouldn't have built Hadrian's Wall in the first place if the Romans didn't have a military presence there, so yes they did conquer Britain, which they called Britannia back then. Matter of fact, London and many other cities in Britain were founded by Romans under the emperor Claudius. They eventually left Britain after the empire's fall, with the Saxons taking their place. The Saxons being the inspiration for the Andals.
It’s a shame Martin will never finish the series
Except his taxes tho...
Maybe, Brandon Sanderson could land a hand to him; just like he s contribution to Robert Jordan.
@@kadirbozkus-ss3sm i wish though they seem to be different types of writers. sanderson being a meticulous planner and martin being the "gardener" type
100% agree, however I also think, that exact contrast might create the unique, and of course the deserving ending GOT needs.
Total shame bro having a good time riding around doing everything but writing forgetting about the book readers who’ve been there with him for like 30 years
I was so happily surprised hearing that familiar Kings and Generals narrator. This quality is unparalleled here on CZcams. Thank you for your hard work. This could very well be the first time I'm genuinely inclined to become a Patreon.
Thanks!
@@WizardsandWarriors is that Maximus's armor in 15:17
At least valerian dragons are lucky they dont have a shouting guy that know dragon words
A shouting guy who realize that the damage from stealth archery surpasses both dragon fire and elemental magic.
Funnily enough, watching all those clips of HotD from youtube subliminally made me open Skyrim again.
So the Valyrians are basically Human Chaos Dwarfs with dragons? Nice.
I would say they're more like if the Roman's had dragons.
@@zalekvoris1517your Italian huh?
@JV-NY987 Nope, it's just that I see more similarities to the Romans. Such as the ghyskari wars have more than a few similarities to the punic wars or the fact that Valyria was a free hold of aristocratic families. That and essos just kinda look's like the mediterranean without Iberia or africa.
Quite obvious that Valyria represents the rise of Rome, and Old Ghis represents Carthage.
Ghis would be Macedonia
Rhoynar the Germanic people.
Rome's northern border was the Rhine river.
Maybe basing your empire near a chain of volcanoes ain’t the brightest idea.
The volcanoes were the source of there power and magic. It was also probably better for Dragons overall.
Japan, majapahit and rome be like:
@@barraganimperator4420I was gona say you don’t have much choice when it’s the source of your power. GRRM has made it clear that blood magic can be wielded but can’t really be controlled and eventually, it’s going to blow up in your face.
Future people might say the same about our low-lying coastal cities.
Yeah. Civilization hasn't cared much about that. 😅
We need a series based on this. It's a diamond mine, the Game of Thrones book , and this is a brilliant storyline like fighting an unstoppable force that was the Valyrians as Dameon says from Game of Thrones Dragons are like Nukes that makes cities kingdoms surrender with one attack so imagine where Empire with thousands of Dragons if Aegon the Conqueor did an entire Continent with 3 Dragons only
It would be ridiculously expensive
I know that is petty but Aegon did NOT conquer a whole continent with three dragons. He failed on the last of the kingdoms and it cost him a sister and a dragon...
@@marcbartuschka6372sister wife
GRRM recently said HBO is developing 7 more TV shows based on ASOIAF
@@shinobi-no-bueno Given the record so far, I do not think I sound overly pessimistic if I say that we could call us lucky if two or three of theme ever got a full first season or even more... I mean there were some projects in the past who almost all get axed.
My brother, what a masterpiece!! Thank you so much for making this. Loved it
H.B.O. should really make a T.V. Series about The Valyrian Freehold
They'll just butcher it
they dont have the money for that
2:04 this is a minor error, as the Long Night occurred about 8000 years before the start of the story, or 7700 BC.
“They held each other close and turned their backs upon the end.
The hills that split asunder and the black that ate the skies;
The flames that shot so high and hot that even dragons burned;
Would never be the final sights that fell upon their eyes.
A fly upon a wall, the waves the sea wind whipped and churned -
The city of a thousand years, and all that men had learned;
The Doom consumed it all alike, and neither of them turned”
We will have a series about Golden empire of Dawn,Ghiscari empire,empire of Yi Ti,Valyrian empire,First men arrival,andal invasion,Stark conquest of north,the long night and battle for dawn,Aegon's conquest waay before GRRM finishes his books.
0:15 Wizards and Warriors: "You think you just fell out of a coconut tree 🌴🥥!? You exist in the context in all of which you live and what came before you."
Are you unburdened by what has been?
@@Glep909 unburdened and coconut pilled
You think you just fell out of a Weirwood Tree?
You exist in the context of the dragon dreams in which you see and who reigned before you.
Game of Thrones is an amazing show
Fantastic work. Your Game Of Thrones-Story So Far is your best one. Please do something similar for Witcher 3 story as a whole.
high quality excellent lore documentary. the 3d animation and narration is superb.
So many parallels with real history
The return of the Old World
What I'm thinking is that it was a slave rebellion that unyielded the magic that held the volcanoes calm. The problem with the whole scheme is knowledge is easily lost or forgotten
Ideas : Elric, Memory Sorrow and Thorn, Narnia, Fafhrd and the gray mouser, Tigana, and Earth sea, Inheritance cycle
I would play a mobile game that looked like this all day
Really fantastic art. A few scenes look like scenes set in The Elder Scrolls games. Great art and analysis!
Thank you for such a concise history
I ALWAYS look forward to your videos and those animations.
So Valyria is just Rome
Loved the illustrations in this video. Seems like the artist based it heavily on the World of Ice and Fire
I really belive that Valyria was, at first, a ,,good" empire, that fell over time to tyranical practices.
Almost no empire is "good", but sometimes the country which founds an empire can be good. Once it reaches the point of "empire" it has already started colonizing and conquering.
@@SamBrickellconquering and colonizing is based.
Think how primitive and mud hut places like India and Africa would still be if European empires never went there.
@@johndiggle9129rage baiter spotted
Thank you for sharing your work with us
Can you do a series on the Dornish Wars? Including on the Vulture Kings?
It’s pretty interesting to read about.
Love it when you do asoiaf stuff
There are so many paralells in ASOIAF to real history. I would compare Ghis to Carthage and Valyria to Rome.
Old Valyria is the fantasy equivalent of the Roman Empire
I have only now found this page, this is same guy from Kings and generals, right? Great stuff, keep it going💪🏻
Kinda funny when you say that in the fourth ghiscari war, that all was not lost for ghis because Infighting in Sarnor. I mean it did nothing to change the war or affect Valyria in a meaningful way.
0:15 so you saying we didn’t fall out of a coconut tree?
Though I hate how the Old Valyrians turned out, it saddens me that the technological and architectural achievements they achieved were lost. And then the Dragons, the Old Valyrians didn't deserve them.
No the historical or fictional universe, one thing remains the same. Feigned Retreats are always successful.
Or any tactic that requires incredible discipline.
That’s not true. During the mongol invasion people who fought them realized that if they don’t chase after the feigned retreat the mongols would leave but when they attacked they usually lost
@@SouthJerseyGhost77 These people felt they had no choice but to deal with those Mongols there and now, mind you it was the Mongols devastating their countryside and allowing them to retreat would mean the Mongols would just continue devastating the countryside again until the Mongols are satisfied with all the loot and slaves they've taken.
Graphics are insane. Shows you much you've evolved all these years.
Atp I feel like I know more about GoT history than my own lmao
Great video but am I the only one that thinks the guy talking sounds just like the voices of Terrance and Phillip from South Park? LOL
There's one thing that needs to be explained city of Yeen on Sothoryos. Like what or who happened to it?
Especially since Yeen is made up of huge black oily stones, which a statue of a toad god in the Basilisk Isles is also made from oily black stone. These are probably references to Lovecraftian horrors.
@@richardthomas9497 Personally, I wish to believe it was a sorcerer civilization that made or conjured sth so dark that consumed them. It would be great if a book was made just about it, with a lone survivor as protagonist.
void gods or gods of the depth...some apocalyptic shit.
Grear storytelling 🔥
It should be noted that the Sarnori also fought in chariots, especially when they got surrounded at the Field of Crows.
I hope Sid Meyer teams up and makes Civ:Westeros and Essos and you get houses vs. Leaders. 😊
Wow... Is Fantasy Lore is even more interesting than the House of Dragon Series or Game of Thrones.
Just my opinion: the valyrians had it coming.
They really did. They could have been great and left behind a good legacy. Now, the only thing most remember them for is slavery, warmongering, and genocides. Valyria was a powerhouse, but it's for the best that it's gone.
@MAEKARAENYSBELAERYSDAERONRHAEG Okay. One: Dial it back a little, and two: If they conquered everything, then that would have led to untold amounts of suffering. Because, while yes, they would have brought great technological advancements, they would have also brought slavery and genocide as well. They were a threat to the entire world, and it's for the best that Valyria's gone.
@@leeashley1902 Technological? You mean magical right?
@@leeashley1902 Yeah good riddance.
@user-vf3pe9ce5x Yeah, magical sorry about that. But through their magic, they did bring about great technological advancements. Nothing science fiction like, but technological advanced all the less.
@15:12 yaaay for Russell Crowe Gladiator armor. Cheers!
Make Essos Great Again
I want to make it as a MOD into Age of Mythology... my old old plan..
Keep up the good work!
The story of the rise and fall of the homeland of house Targaryen is very interesting, and certainly with all does details, some of whom even I had never heard of before.
If I may ask though, can make a series about every event that happened during the Clone Wars?
I have a bank acct i started almost 10 years ago so that when GRRM dies without finishing series i can fly to New Mexico to piss on his grave. Its gotten way bigger then i thought itd get lol.
I eant to close it but every time i hear him talk about working on anything BUT the book, i increase the amount going into it every paycheck
Elder scrolls Elder scrolls
Perfection
I really wonder what kind of idiots would fight the Valyrians? Not once, but five times? The Targaryens conquered an entire continent with 3 dragons, and no wonder when even one could flame a whole army or take down a castle as big as Harrenhal. As a whole, the Valyrian freehold had access to HUNDREDS of battle-ready dragons, which they used to annihilate the Rhoynar, and if Rhoynish water magic wasn't enough to do it, how could the Ghiscari even put up a fight? The lockstep legions would be utterly useless, just kindling for the dragons. I'm surprised the Valyrians didn't conquer all of Essos at least.
I miss the Warhammer videos 😟
Ever going to finish your horus heresy series?
Can you make a warcraft series?
can you do a battle video of the battle of winter fell with the night king and dead army ?
Awesome! Love your GOT videos 🐲🐲🐲🐲
Diplomatic relations between Valyria and Farum Azula?
Not sure if Plaacidsax would be kind of cool with the Valyrians or order their extermination. Want to see that ZOOM meeting 😅
Ghis vs Valyria sounds like Carthage vs Rome.
No, the Doom of Valyria is similar but understand the Valyrian used "Blood Magic" to create their cities, statues, and roads. These blood sacrifices of humans their souls used to power their magic and keep their beautiful cities and roads. But the Doom unleashed these poor souls trapped within the stones and they cause the Volcanos to erupt and their lands to sink. This is why the old Valyrian road near old Valyria is now called the "Demon Road". The souls used to make such roads know haunt it.
Now believe or not this based on the real Roman road network that crisis crosses the United Kingdom and France. Many of these roads have seen a lot battles and violence and where still haunted up until modern times.
As a question of scale, would the Valyrian-Old Ghis Wars be comparable to The First World War in numbers?
Still not entirely convinced the Valyrian origin is as simple as shepards discovered the dragons in the fourteen flames. Something deeper happened, involving the Dawn Empire of the east and something that has to explain the corruption of oiley blackstone as opposed to the Valyrian blackstone... and some funky dna melding stuff to explain the....weirdness that manifests here and there with Valyrian dragonlords.
This guy sounds like lott Dod from star wars the clone wars lol
Do one about yiti
So did old man Martin create all this lore or is this fans filling the world in?
all this for bran to be king...
*Bloodraven, Valyrian blood still flows
He really should be king, in the books it will make more sense tho
What is the source for this video?
how exactly could the dragon lords not beat the gyscari easily lol, cus its sorta assumed that not many dragons were killed right? and if dragons weren't killed then how could they possibly lose
your using a game for a map right?
This video contains too much of Andal storytelling and therefore cannot be trusted to provide thruthfull account of the East. Valyrians ARE descendents of the Great Empire of The Dawn, the Maestars are all wrong, and so is this video! MUAHAHAHAHAHA! Victarion Greyjoy is Azor Ahai!
This comment is an exageration of my fanaticism for this franchise. Loved the video.
So is the Horus heresy series cancelled?
How is all of this known ?? Is it in the books ?
The lore of the Targayans has never made any sense to me. They where one of the 40 dragon lords of Old Valerya, meaning they where one of the ruling family's.
Regardless of there strength compared to the other dragflords it makes absolutely no sense to me that Noone left Valerya with them. Being one of the 40 dragon riding familys means they must have has some degree of political clout no matter,how major or minor, yet noone left with them, wtf.
You would have thought some of the non dragon riding familys that no doubt supported house Targayan while thy where still in Valerya would have taken them seriously. Gifts like visions don't just appear overnight, and the Targayans bloidline is full of people who have dragon dreams Yet apparently Daenys the dreamer was the first of her kind. Bullshit, psychic vesions dont manifest in a bloodline over night, then suddenly become commen place. There would have had to have been some degree of that power present for a long time for it to become commen place after reaching Westeros. And with that said, again, I say GRRM's lore of Valyra and the Targayans maker no sense to me. He needs to learn hiw these things work before he uses them in his books.
For thn Targayans dragon dreams to become so common place after arriving in Westeros, they would have had to marry into a family that also had dragon dreams, while they where in Valerya. true that inbreeding could play a part in passing on the gift, but being one of the weaker dragon lord familys they would have had to marry into other bloidlines to increase there power at some point. And i find it to be complete bullshit that none of thise familys took Daenys seriously. Being a lesser house would mean the bloidlines they married into wouled have also been lesser houses. And for Dragon dreams to become guaranteed at least 1 every generation then they'd have had to had them while in Valyria . And if they had them while in Valyria theres no reason the lesser houses that supported Hiuse Targayan wouldn't have left with them.
GGRM has no clue or respect for spiritual beliefs and gifts, and as a result, he has no clue how to right them so they make f#*king sense
You have to understand "Dragon riders" are rare in Valyrian society. But "Dragon Dreamers" are rarer still. What is unusual is that her family listen to "Daenys the Dreamer". Writing down her dreams in book, that has since been lost. Most that have the gift are ignored, like the real life "Cassandra" the real life Priestess of temple of Apollo in the story of Troy, given the gift of the Oracle, but cursed by the Gods that no one will heed her warnings.
Valyria was where their magic was the strongest. But there where other Valyrians that lived in their colonies in Essos. They just where not Dragon riders. That why the Targaryens where consider odd. However, I believe the Children of the Forest where sending messages to Daenys the Dreamer to move. Also, believe that it was the Children of the Forest that made sacrifices to the Weirwood trees to destroy Valyria. We tend to forget the Children of the Forest made sacrifices to the Weirwood trees to break the land bridge of Dorne creating what we now know has the step stones. The Children of the Forest made sacrifices to the Weirwood trees to break the Neck and creating swamps in that region.
I'm not too keen on you adding the 3rd part only as a part of the whole documentary and not separately as well :(
Wow
Valyria is Rome
Ghis is Hellenic Egyptian
Ashai is Greece
Yi Ti Chinese
Btw if it is cannonical how did house valaryon came to be. It is portrayed as a scion of valyria in westeros after the targerians
Yes House Velaryon was a noble family in Valyria, they just weren’t one of the 40 dragon lord families like the Targaryens, which were the only noble families that had dragons. They most likely built their wealth from trade given their maritime nature. House Celtigar is another house from Valyria, but they seem to be from a lower status family than the Velaryons and definitely the Targaryens.
@@Dell-ol6hb tnx
You could make a series on kurukshetra war , it was 18 day long .
Does nova globes make a flat earth??
The cringe Valyrians vs the based Roynar.
Does it come in Flat Earth?
The comment
What is this clip from and where can I watch it
Hopefully we'll step away from the adult-game approach to artwork after this...
Ну вот почему нет русского канала, который мотоудничал бы с этим каналом и переводил видно на русский?
So the Valeryans were just another group of aholes who happened to have dragons.