The Fall Interview on The Tube (C4) 1985

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  • Muriel Gray interviewing Mark E Smith and Brix Smith of The Fall on Channel 4's music programme The Tube on November 8th 1985. Gray asks How long can the Fall keep going...well, over 30 years later, they are still going!
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Komentáře • 198

  • @Sach1967-e4j
    @Sach1967-e4j Před rokem +5

    “Hit The North” got me into The Fall. I still play it loudly today

  • @saturnsabyss
    @saturnsabyss Před 10 měsíci +7

    Brix was a great addition to the band. Her fashion sense and sanguine temperament are completely unexpected but welcome.

  • @Harpdashian
    @Harpdashian Před 5 lety +52

    I only discovered The Fall a week before MES died (I have a weird habbit of finding new people then them dying) but this band has had such a massive effect on me. Pure Genius.

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 Před 2 lety +9

      So, - it was your fault?

    • @papermallard
      @papermallard Před 2 lety +4

      you should find out about Paul Mccartney trhen

    • @Nosferatu88
      @Nosferatu88 Před 2 lety +2

      I knew them from before but they seemed disturbing to me. Over time I realized that it was a matter of maturation. The best things in life are never easy to digest, otherwise we should be suspicious

    • @Harpdashian
      @Harpdashian Před 2 lety +3

      @@Nosferatu88 I agree 100%. I was 15 at the time and am happy that they clicked instantly with me and I have listened to them pretty much every day since

    • @eugenemclemmont4045
      @eugenemclemmont4045 Před 2 lety

      @@papermallard have you heard Phil Collins, you beat me to it. oh yes and Cliff Richard although he doesn`t pester us so much nowadays.

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 Před 2 lety +30

    Brix was a stunner

  • @candymoan
    @candymoan Před 6 lety +117

    "It'd be a sad day when The Fall packed up."
    yes, it is mate.
    yes
    it
    is.

    • @pudboy123456
      @pudboy123456 Před 6 lety

      sorry candymoan mate - just said what you said. guess its an easy comment to make though.

    • @jimmygray4072
      @jimmygray4072 Před 3 lety

      over 60 albums to have your pick and remember them by mate

    • @phillmaf7319
      @phillmaf7319 Před 2 lety +2

      They are far from dead ,nearly every multi layer d lyric and riff are laind ten times thicker than Campbell s condensed soup.
      The bougasi are only learning to decipher this ancient gutteral form ,like archeologists deciphering heiroglythics from Fredrick road to Telow lane and the spent roaches in the lanes of Simister.

    • @slyasleep
      @slyasleep Před 2 lety

      @@phillmaf7319 You have learnéd well.

  • @Mikeystar1969
    @Mikeystar1969 Před 7 měsíci +4

    One of Mark’s best interviews and with decent questions for once.

  • @Deedee-ee1sg
    @Deedee-ee1sg Před 2 lety +11

    Good to know that as a Fall fan I'm the salt of the earth! Great, unique and original band. R.I.P MARK E SMITH.

  • @sydbarrett5
    @sydbarrett5 Před 2 lety +31

    My Grandma used to play bongos in that band.

    • @indigo9336
      @indigo9336 Před rokem +2

      One of their best eras

    • @anthonymitchell8893
      @anthonymitchell8893 Před rokem +2

      how could it be big dog my sister was the sole bingo player for them 1978/1994 she still has not been payed her f-------g royalties stop telling big ones please

  • @dougie1968
    @dougie1968 Před 2 lety +13

    Brix Smith was clearly captivated by The Fall and made it her raison d'etre to be a part of it. And she's right. The Fall are a one off because they were the most unique band in the world. Mark was a very lucky man.

    • @Talentedtadpole
      @Talentedtadpole Před rokem +3

      Brix was part of one of their best eras. Love what she brought to the music.

    • @db0800
      @db0800 Před rokem +1

      Lucky to pull her she's stunning.

  • @DungeonStudio
    @DungeonStudio Před 6 lety +10

    Mark never wanted The Fall to have a 'hit song', they were all hits way ahead of their time. And now Mark has Hit The North for good now. :(

  • @Philliben1991
    @Philliben1991 Před 2 lety +8

    Brix is so sweet. Opposites attract and all that!

  • @p.a.lionski4407
    @p.a.lionski4407 Před rokem +1

    The first song I heard from "The Fall" was 1987 with "new big prince" They played great songs! Today (03.02.2023)I found out that you left too soon Mark E .Smith (05.03.57- 24.01.18) my condolences ... r.i.p. 🙏 😢

  • @lumpyfishgravy
    @lumpyfishgravy Před 3 lety +5

    The Tube came towards the end of my teenage years, when life was getting too busy for TV. Still bloody good.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 Před 2 lety +1

      All the episodes are now on CZcams. I've set up a playlist of them on my channel if you're interested.

  • @POET444
    @POET444 Před rokem +3

    MES & William S. Burroughs had a great deal in common...... both were not bothered by adulation & just got on with what they did despite being both hounded and ridiculed because of their persistence & singular vision ..... as it was with Blake ....hindsight is a wonderful thing

  • @MrMHughes68
    @MrMHughes68 Před rokem +3

    I was at the Hammersmith gig that Brix mentions. They were phenomenal.

  • @bryanjames5175
    @bryanjames5175 Před 6 lety +43

    R.I.P. Mark E Smith
    A maverick who was cooler then penguins piss

  • @thewholecity
    @thewholecity Před 2 lety +7

    Fucking hell. The only man who could stun Glastonbury in piss soaked flannels and still rock the shit out of it. What a total legend.

    • @chriswareham1547
      @chriswareham1547 Před 2 lety +7

      It was actually a spilt drink from an incident back stage - but the fact he couldn't be arsed to change his kecks before a concert in front of what was probably his biggest audience ever is pure quality!

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Před rokem

      I always thought The Fall were curators of punk - _always different, always the same_

  • @nickburlton5821
    @nickburlton5821 Před 6 lety +31

    Forgot how articulate he could be!

    • @RJMc819
      @RJMc819 Před 6 lety +3

      So did I. I'm reading a book about 'em atm, and he just seems to say "cock" a lot :D

    • @RJMc819
      @RJMc819 Před 6 lety +1

      But yeah, he's excellent in this interview. Really makes his point.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 Před 4 lety +3

      Nick Burlton
      And sadly he became a blabbering pisshead.

    • @lumpyfishgravy
      @lumpyfishgravy Před 3 lety +2

      It's a fair point. In his latter days he sounded like Joe Biden.

    • @maryryan9464
      @maryryan9464 Před 2 lety

      @@hyena131 I don't believe you b much different 60 albums in either

  • @marguskiis7711
    @marguskiis7711 Před rokem +10

    The days when Mark was able to talk normally

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Před 6 lety +28

    Surprised Mark could deal with that accent of Brix.This was them at their peak 1985.Genius. RIP Mark.

  • @jimmygray4072
    @jimmygray4072 Před 3 lety +7

    mark ended up marrying his fan club manager, seen the fall half a dozen times from 1979 to 1985 always supporting Stiff Little Fingers

    • @eamonwright7488
      @eamonwright7488 Před rokem

      Two bands that were miles apart from their "competition" imo

  • @slyasleep
    @slyasleep Před 2 lety +2

    „accessibility was something to be spat on“ The Fall were often very catchy for all that.

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 Před rokem +1

    Whenever I listen to mes talk, I feel like making music again

  • @jfochoaster
    @jfochoaster Před 4 lety +7

    Brix is too beatiful

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum Před 2 lety +2

      She's literally painted her face on like a canvas. She could look like someone completely different for all you'd know.

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel Před 6 lety +11

    Fair well on your next journey Mark. Thanks for being and thanks for dying, I would have never found your music if it wasn't for that combo.

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup Před rokem +1

    Life is all memory

  • @johnperiard9594
    @johnperiard9594 Před 2 lety +12

    Buyin what Brix is sellin. One of the most beautiful women in rock.

  • @gusto731
    @gusto731 Před 4 měsíci

    Mark E is so respectful, seriously answering the interviewer's idiotic questions.

  • @terrypussypower
    @terrypussypower Před 6 lety +17

    That sad day has finally arrived. Mark is no more, hence The Fall are no more. But The Fall existed! And the music is all still here!! And didn't Mark look cool!

  • @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322
    @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322 Před 5 lety +3

    Ah,the Mighty Fall.Memories.

  • @tostare
    @tostare Před 6 lety +9

    MES at his most attractive, at this point, I think.

    • @Hwral
      @Hwral Před 3 lety +1

      His haircut never got better than this, I’ll give you that.

  • @holgerzimmer6884
    @holgerzimmer6884 Před 3 lety +5

    salt of the earth. RIP MES

    • @finnkdy
      @finnkdy Před 2 lety

      To quite a few twas Honey.
      Moi aussi.

  • @robhavock9434
    @robhavock9434 Před rokem +1

    I remember listening to the John Peel broadcast in the late 80,s on a small radio, I would walk down to the Barbican Plymouth in the evening in summer time and look at Robert Lenkiwicz paintings, I only recently looked into the Fall , I wonder if the John Peel recordings still exists, they were mind blowing.

  • @greva2904
    @greva2904 Před rokem +2

    The Fred Dibnah of rock n roll!

  • @slyasleep
    @slyasleep Před 2 lety +2

    I wish I felt as indifferent to other people‘s affection as Mark E Smith

  • @deemdoubleu
    @deemdoubleu Před 2 lety +3

    I used to work with a guy who was in the Fall (really it's true) but apparently so have 100,000,000 other people

  • @paddycampbell576
    @paddycampbell576 Před 6 lety +8

    Brix and Muriel looked like they liked each other 😱

  • @simonhawkins7786
    @simonhawkins7786 Před 6 lety +21

    I forgot he was so handsome. Just yer granny on bongo's now. RIP The Fall.

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Před rokem

      From the (literal) ashes of The Fall should come the band 'Your Granny on Bongos' , maybe Brix could carry it off

  • @halloweenjack8683
    @halloweenjack8683 Před 2 lety +2

    One day there will be a film made about you Mark- hope they can find a suitable actor 💙💙💙

  • @d_walsh
    @d_walsh Před 6 lety +4

    RIP. m.E.s.

  • @billytoffingham9608
    @billytoffingham9608 Před 2 lety +5

    How can this man be dust ?

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka Před 2 lety

      Because he took lots and lots of drugs. That'll do it for you.

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Před rokem

      And drank copious amounts, as well as chain smoking. Works a treat.

  • @nottavictim5
    @nottavictim5 Před 2 lety +2

    They do owe a debt of gratitude to Cap’n Beefheart tho

  • @StarvedForTime
    @StarvedForTime Před 4 měsíci

    "how long can it go on?" quite a while, Muriel. Quite a while.

  • @thomasminarchickjr.7355
    @thomasminarchickjr.7355 Před 5 lety +13

    It’s strange to me that of the few people in his lifetime that he could stand, let alone really like, was a valley girl “Brix”. Odd couple indeed

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower Před 3 lety +16

      Nah, they weren't odd at all. Mark saw in Brix a creative energy that could take The Fall into a more accessible vein, and he was right!
      The Brix years were the most commercially successful era for The Fall.

    • @Rfk1966
      @Rfk1966 Před 3 lety +8

      @@terrypussypower She deserves a lot of credit for bring some melodies to the songs and not trying to affect a British accent like Madonna

  • @GriefTourist
    @GriefTourist Před 2 lety +1

    LA to Prestwich

  • @michaelonell4248
    @michaelonell4248 Před 2 lety +1

    Saturday night in Lancaster !!!!!

  • @abigailweir7287
    @abigailweir7287 Před 2 měsíci

    Brix is beautiful and Mark is handsome.

  • @troygaspard6732
    @troygaspard6732 Před 2 lety

    What a condescending question. My favorite bands in the 80's were never on the radio.

  • @chancesareshewears
    @chancesareshewears Před rokem

    Brix channeling Michael from Gene Loves Jezebel..even the mole...

  • @phillmaf7319
    @phillmaf7319 Před 2 lety +1

    Original best of the rest,never sold ,eternal red brick performance art.
    Before the days of the net the Fall were already talking about masonry,jimmy saville etc..( big new prince? Check the record)..Mes es appearance in 24 hour party people was the peak of his acting career. Even he knew Tony Wilson was a bunt so ,as always ,despite the Manchester Music hype n shite he stood aloof.
    The hall are the epitome of not selling your creative ass,look how rich they all got! These days Salford University would give em all honorary doctorates to bleed off the integrity, like they did to Site Dr. John Cooper Clark e. In their earlier times they would be arrested by security if they ever set their working class feet on the premises.

  • @joannedw1
    @joannedw1 Před 6 lety +3

    Who did the bloody subtitles!!! Get them right for god sake.

  • @anthonymcneil1542
    @anthonymcneil1542 Před 2 lety +1

    Like a cross between Noel Gallagher and Jarvis Cocker

  • @angelocatapang6054
    @angelocatapang6054 Před 6 lety +2

    mr and mrs smith.indeed.

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 Před 6 lety +7

      Coolest couple ever. And Brix was looking smoking hot here. Damn.

    • @Anonymous-c4p
      @Anonymous-c4p Před 4 lety +1

      @@bluestate69 she still looks pretty good working with Gok Kwan now 🤔💞

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Anonymous-c4p she's kind of taken the torch since Mark E Smith's death. She's a talented lady.

    • @Anonymous-c4p
      @Anonymous-c4p Před 4 lety +1

      @@bluestate69 yes totally agree👍
      She was understandably insecure in Marks company...I think I would have been too🤔💞

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Anonymous-c4p wait, i thought Gok was some musician i didn't know about! i didn't know she was doing fashion! actually, i think its always been an interest of hers? but i was also speaking of "Brix and the Extricated", where she has reunited old Fall members. i just love her story though. an American who was blown away by English punk bands, so much that she moved to England and ended up JOINING one of the best punk/post punk bands of all time. AND she wrote songs!

  • @tcm8119
    @tcm8119 Před 2 lety

    Oh but I did have a wee crush on Brix in 1985 ...

  • @darylcumming7119
    @darylcumming7119 Před 2 lety

    A time capsule?

  • @discoverydavid
    @discoverydavid Před 2 lety

    I can't remember the interviewers name, Gloria Huniford or something, I think she fancied herself as a serious NME/Melody Maker muzo journalist but always ended up sounding like your Mum readng your end of term school report card.

    • @soundhead6971
      @soundhead6971 Před 2 lety +1

      I think her name is Muriel gray ? A kind of bargain basement Paula Yates!

  • @user-oo8xp2rf1k
    @user-oo8xp2rf1k Před 2 lety

    Point one YES
    Point two YES
    Point three YES
    Point four YES!

  • @tenparkdrive
    @tenparkdrive Před 20 dny

    Brix was fit

  • @pudboy123456
    @pudboy123456 Před 6 lety +1

    despite all the pretentious meaningless bollocks - he was right. it is a sad day the fall broke up. RIP Mark. only just found your music and its shite I will never see one of the lineups live :-(

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower Před 3 lety

      Don't worry mate, you didn't miss much. , They were crap live.
      Only kidding!! They were AMAZING live! Especially back in the two drummers plus Steve Hanley, Marc Riley and Craig Scanlon era!!
      I was lucky enough to see them many times from '79 onwards, and that "Slates/Hex Enduction Hour" line up were killer live.
      You should do yourself a favour and get bass player Steve Hanley's book "The Big Weekend: Life Inside The Fall" where he goes into the history of the band from when he joined in 1979 to when he left in '96.

    • @bezenby9804
      @bezenby9804 Před rokem

      @@terrypussypower "The Big Midweek" it's called, but you're right - it's a great book.

  • @tonyoutdoors9369
    @tonyoutdoors9369 Před 2 lety +1

    mark wasnt punk mark was mark and he didnt follow or belong to nothing the fall followers will get this

  • @simonmaskell365
    @simonmaskell365 Před rokem

    Paula Yates was away cos she had a Baby. Murial Gray was OK.

    • @cquilty1
      @cquilty1 Před rokem

      muriel gray was a mirror shattering shitt stain foisted upon us as someone somewhere thought it had some kind of 'youth' appeal. paula yates not a whole lot better.

  • @DutchVanHelsing
    @DutchVanHelsing Před 6 lety

    She fixed her teeth here ??

  • @paddyskate
    @paddyskate Před 2 lety +1

    Lots of face touching and neck scratching going on here

  • @southerner4566
    @southerner4566 Před 6 lety +7

    "I always throw all my fan mail away and don't even read it", That just about sums up Mark E Smith - TWAT !

    • @gdzb
      @gdzb Před 3 lety +7

      Ahh, did he not reply to you?

    • @paularrowsmith9376
      @paularrowsmith9376 Před rokem

      It was his to do as he liked, good on him ,you obviously loved swap shop

  • @sexobscura
    @sexobscura Před 6 lety +3

    he is just parroting things his idol Morrissey had already uttered

  • @hyena131
    @hyena131 Před 6 lety +5

    He's so damn boring and says nothing of substance. Tedious little control freak.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 Před 5 lety +1

      Aren't we all, mr Hyena, lol.

    • @Anonymous-c4p
      @Anonymous-c4p Před 4 lety +3

      ...even a genius can seem crazy to a fool 🤔

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 Před 4 lety +2

      @@neilwilson5785
      No, not really.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 Před 4 lety

      @anal emo
      Can't wait for your copy and paste September calendar quote. Hopefully it'll be 2022.

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower Před 3 lety +8

      He was certainly a control freak, but "tedious"??
      I don't think so!!
      "Tedious" was the very LAST thing Mark Smith was!!
      Tedious people don't create bands like The Fall....One of the greatest groups that ever existed.

  • @Strimbles
    @Strimbles Před rokem

    I do NOT like this interviewer lady!

  • @stevepearn930
    @stevepearn930 Před 2 lety

    signing to Beggars Banquet ruined The Fall -
    turned them into your average rock band

  • @dickhead5964
    @dickhead5964 Před 6 lety +1

    One of these guests was interesting and intruiging,
    The other had absolutely fuck all to say about anything, an empty can.
    You do the math.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka Před 2 lety +3

      MathS

    • @anthonymitchell8893
      @anthonymitchell8893 Před rokem

      @@zeddeka mathematics loves asthmatics and plasmatics Wendy o Williams was a lean queen what ? do you want some gritty northern knuckle ?? cause if you do I will oblige anytime any f-------g where bigdog

  • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
    @malcolmscrawdyke1868 Před 5 lety

    Bad band. Quite boring.

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 Před 5 lety +10

      Go on give us a laugh, what's a good one?

    • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
      @malcolmscrawdyke1868 Před 5 lety

      @@yknat216 U2

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 Před 5 lety +1

      @@malcolmscrawdyke1868 did you ever hear/see Virgin Prunes, used to knock about with Bono's crew in their youth, they played M/C once with The Fall, far cry from U2 though

    • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
      @malcolmscrawdyke1868 Před 5 lety +3

      @@yknat216 Even though Im not a Fall head I have been reading The Big Midweek Life Inside The Fall by Steve Hanley (I like music books, don't care who the band is). About half way now. He mentions meeting the Virgin Prunes and they tease them about the success of their old mates U2 (who Im not really a fan of). Funny.

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 Před 5 lety

      @@malcolmscrawdyke1868 he he, yeah good read the Steve Hanley book, as is the Brix one, halfway through the Mark Smith one at the moment.

  • @paulbradley705
    @paulbradley705 Před rokem

    I love artificial,lovely ,funny Brix and sharing adul t net.