The Most Unbelievable Story in Hockey
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- Will Theo Fleury's insane life keep him out of the Hockey Hall of Fame?
At 5-5 and 150 pounds, Theo Fleury was hockey’s little giant, a high-octane whirling dervish who thrilled fans and antagonized opponents. The smallest player in hockey, Fleury succeeded by playing the game on the edge - and he lived his life that way, too.
Fleury was ignored by NHL scouts, but against all odds he built a hall of fame worthy career highlighted by over 1000 points, a Stanley Cup championship, An Olympic Gold Medal and 7 NHL all star games appearances.
But while he was dazzling fans on the ice - away from the rink, Fleury’s life was spinning out of control.
Why was this pint-sized superstar so self destructive … and so full of rage?
In later years he’d come to understand that the source of his anger, guilt and shame was a painful secret he held inside. This was a secret so dark that hiding it ultimately cost Fleury his career, his family and almost his life.
This is the remarkable story of Theo Fleury - his unlikely rise to stardom, his descent into a personal hell and his search for freedom from the ghosts of the past.
KEY RESOURCES:
"Playing with Fire" The Fleury autobiography
"Playing with Fire" HBO documentary
NOTES ABOUT THIS VIDEO: 1.) “Theo once described himself in the Toronto Star as a “ F***ing, raging, alcoholic, lunatic” regarding the late stages of his career. This video was about his playing career - his post career activities are only mentioned to close the loop on his life. The channel takes a neutral stance on political issues. 2.) Yes, Russell is in Manitoba not Saskatchewan 3.) There have been man hundreds of in-depth and incredible comments on this video and they are greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Fleury is a F**king Legend in the NHL.
He absolutely deserves to be in the hall of fame.
i thinks so too. i just think imagine if he lived a normal healthy life what kind of player would he be.but on the other hand this made him who he was. all be it. i wouldnt wish it on anyone. i am no flames fan at all never was never will be but he fought tooth & nail just for a little respect. & yes i am a huge habs fan & i do remember 1989. i was in shock when we lost it. but i particularily remember the flames canucks series it was a great series. i lived on vancouver island than & i remember many times fleury would get the puck & i remember thinking o man here he comes. i also remember him on the Canadas olympic team im thinking it was salt lake city games. correct me if im wrong . but i do recall him scoring a game winning goal in that tourney. i believe that was our first gold medal since 1951 or something, i think anyway i will look it up later. but ya Fleury quite a story & an individual
@@jeffovington6375 LOL you live through what he did and try being a normal human being. He had all odds against him and he took charge and persevered.
You have to look at his whole career right from the juniors. No one in the NHL was that much of a fire cracker in as small of package.
His stats would look a whole lot more impressive if you seen him stand beside the rest of the hall of farmers to see how they dwarf him in stature.
Fleury is a legend.
@@jeffovington6375 tim horton died drunk driving ffs
@@jeffovington6375- A good role model works to ensure other kids are protected against what happened to him. You should think before posting nonsense.
YEP ... SO DO ALL ALCHOHOLICS AND DRUG ADDICTS /
NOT UNLESS HE 'S CLEAN AND SOBER
No question. A NHL champion who overcame the odds. 100% deserves to be in the hockey hall of fame.
Shame on the Flames for not retiring his number. The Hall of Fame is a joke for not inducting Fleury. One of the most talented and exciting players to play in the league. Can you imagine what he could of done without his demons? Thanks Theo for the many great years of entertainment.
its a real catch 22 he would've never made the NHL without his demons, he said it himself. "My edge was the only thing that separated me from the other smaller guys trying to make the NHL"
100% agreed Theo belongs in the hall of fame and on any top list of All time best Canadian hockey players.Clutch scoring ability was world class.👍🏼👍🏼
I don’t know, maybe those demons were his superpower! Ultimately his downfall can be contributed to his horrid past, but why in the hell have the flams not retired his jersey! I’m a die hard oiler fan and I hated the little shit! But you have to give the dwarf credit, he was one hell of a player.
Didn’t know there was an expiration date on retiring a number
@@truenorth1355this was a very funny comment. good job
Theo Fleury has/had more heart than most of the NHL alumni combined. His courage in overcoming his personal demons and rising to stardom as the "little giant" of the Calgary Flames paved the way for the evolution of the NHL into the acceptance of small, yet talented, hockey players. I will always have much admiration and respect for Theo Fleury for what he has stood for both on and off the ice. He is the epitome of a real Canadian hockey hero.
HUGE MAMMOTH MEATY 65 INCH KOCK WHIPPED OUT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY AT THE SWIMMING POOL
Fleury was still pretty damn fire when he played for my Rangers. Him, Lindros and Mike York were the "FLY Line"
And were absolutely tearing it up.
Stop…
Loved seeing theo beside lindros. That dude had heart
Problem with smaller players now is they get checked in the head...because it's the same height as the defencemans shoulder..
His size, addictions, concussions and mental abuse. I can only admire and cheer on this man. How many of us would be able to handle half of what he's gone through.
Agree 100%
Mental abuse? Sure, but I'd only include that below the sexual abuse he suffered as a miinor at the hands of Graham James.
And he was a great player
If you see what he posts these days, he's not doing very well
@@tylerstevens1904EXACTLY!!!
Theo Fleury definitely deserves to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame!
100% he deserves it. He put up points when the big guys flourished & put up points when the left wing lock came around.
He never will he because of his political views.
@@AC-wl7ve I know that Gretzky is a fan of Fleury, so he may well get in there
It's all political. And all complete & total bullshit.
Politics should have nothing to do with hockey.
Loved having Theo in Belfast, the league back then wasn’t the best so watching a player of his calibre light it up every weekend was a joy. He also seemed to enjoy his time here while getting better health wise. Would love to see him get inducted into the HHOF he deserves that recognition
Seems like it was a great experience for him and the fans! 🇮🇪
By all means, Fleury should be in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Guys like Fleury and Roenick provided the personality the NHL badly needed during the dead puck era. Self destructive issues should not keep a player from getting the recognition he deserves. Great to see he turned his life around. Thank you for this presentation.
Hey thanks Mort .. good hearing from u
Fleury didn't play in the did puck era. Here are some of his contemporaries. Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Lemieux, Neely, Jagr, Bourque, Leetch, Robitaille, LaFontaine, Moigilny, Lindros, MacInnis, Bure.
@@seveglider8406 He didn't play a full NHL season until 89-90. He played through the heart of the dead puck era.
@@VDVEDCThe dead puck era? What moronic point are You attempting to make? Fluery played when scoring was at its all time peak. Carefully read my previous comment and you will learn how many of Flurry's contemporaries were the most productive players of all time!
Point per game
As a fellow short dude, Theo was definitely an inspiration. Being short sucks in general, but wow, having to suffer what he's gone through, the man is a hero and a legend. Crime he's not recognized more. Good to see this. I'm an out of shape old man now, but after watching this, I'm stepping up training for my beer league.
Lol 😂… great stuff!
How you gonna double up on 12 Oz curls? lol good for you....genuinely
You'll probably live longer.
I often wonder what life would be like 5'6 or so...not having to bend my back for every task at work and at home. Taking a shower without having to bend down to wet my hair. Taking a bath with my legs extended...I could go on. There's give and take I guess I'm saying.
Being short is awesome!! I'm 5'7 and love every minute of it. I modeled my game after Rob DiMaio. Oh, I'm old now too, Bud! It's better than being young NOW!! Look @ the world!!!
If the HHOF let in Eric Lindros, then Theo Fleury should definitely be in there. The guy was fearless.
Agreed
Very much agree
Eric Lindros is NOT ... in 'No Way, Shape or Form'... a controversial HOF Selection...Try, SLAM DUNK...
Lindros has some HUGE years. But agreed
I would take Fleury over Lindros any day. In fact Lindros to me is not a hall of fame. He never lived up to the hype.
I have a lot of admiration for Theo. His courage helped me confront my own demons.
He’s done everything in hockey to be in the HOF. I wish nothing but the best for Theo, he went through one of the most traumatic things anyone could ever go through.
He absolutely should have his number retired by Calgary and be in the HHOF . I admired Theo for his gritty, won't be stopped playing style at 5 foot 5 , never knowing the horror he went through . After learning his story my admiration and respect for him soars higher .
Thanks for watching - and contributing to the discussion!
Absolutely! His number should be retired and he should be in the HOF!
I think his post-game behaviour makes it hard to move into the Hall. Players from that era are judged harshly for their stats--see Jeremy Roenick.
Only Jarome is a greater Flame in my eyes. Retire #14!!
It would be beyond ridiculous if calgary didn't raise his jersey
It’s a joke that Fleury isn’t in the Hall of Fame. His blend of heart/tenacity/skill/courage is unmatched.
Managed to talk his way out of the HHOF. Too bad so many good people went down the Qanon rabbit hole and became mentally unstable and irredeemable. I don’t pity or feel bad for the guy at all. He chose to be a politically motivated lunatic and the hockey world is better off without him in it
he was excitement personified.... never a dull moment with #14 on the ice.
@@gohabs8918 I bet you are 💉-ed. What a 🐏! 😂😂😂
The NHL is an example of Heightism in play
He's like a Mitch Marner
I’m not really a hockey fan but this guy is absolutely fascinating. Glad this video was recommended.
Whoever is responsible for putting these presentations together deserves the equivalent of the Stanley Cup.
Thanks 🙏 your comment is my reward! ✌️
@@ProHockeyAlumni Did you make this video yourself?
@@mattm1982 yes - I enjoy the process although it is extremely time consuming … but PHA viewers have come to expect a high level of detail and research so I try to deliver that each time. Thx!✌️
@@ProHockeyAlumni oh ok very cool. I thought it was just a re-upload from somewhere. You should definitely include that at the start or end of the video.
Edit: actually now that I view the rest of your videos it's obvious you made them all lol. But when I just randomly clicked it last night it wasn't.
Legend! He went through Hell and back. He has helped so many. 🙏💪
I had no idea about him being repeatedly sexually assaulted by his coach. It never stops being shocking and sickening, especially when you consider that coaches and scouts do it because of their position of power. I knew about Sheldon Kennedy,though. It gives his story some context many of us never knew about
Thanks 🙏 you wonder how many kids were victimized by authority figures and could never speak about it
Should read his book...its unreal
I haven't read his book, but it always surprised me to find just how many hockey players went off to live with mentors at young ages, often as young as 14 years old. I imagine that this has happened to far more people than we know of.
Theo Fluery is the biggest 5-5 guy ever. HOF for sure. Guy was unreal. So sorry and so glad he is handling addiction. I can not begin to explain what an inspiration this guy is. I hope he finds happiness as he appears to be a very intense person.
Excellent comment that is greatly appreciated!
I ran into Mr. flurry about three years ago in Westchester County. I won’t say where he was having breakfast and I noticed him and he had a very distinctive, scarred his face. I’m a huge hockey fan I played some Junior I knew exactly who he was and I was just walking by I said good morning just a flurry I want to thank you for your book and I really appreciate your career and what you did. He said please sit down he says if anyone sees us I mean I get out of here for a while, and he giggled and laughed that I understood what you meant and he says do you have the book with you? I said no I had no sign of ever running into you. He says I’m here probably twice a week. Next time you come to bring the book, I’d love to sign it for you. If that something you would consider I said I don’t collect autographs, but I’d be really honored. If you would write something in that book your book gave me a different perspective on hockey and the players in it and of course your success.
I had no idea about his story, he was one of the coolest NHLers when I first started watching hockey as a 10 year old. Glad it had a feel-good ending, and of course his number should be in the rafters in Calgary.
Of course, he deserves to be in the hockey hall of fame. He suffered an extremely traumatic youth, coped with the PTSD by self-medicating and still played to an amazingly high level. He's since successfully stopped drinking and has become an asset to his community. Let the guy in.
Good post … it’s time … thx👍
plus he hates trudeau. hhof for sure
being a Qanon, anti vaxxer is an asset to his community?!?! Dude has lost his marbles.
@@shiftymenno Is he? We’ll that’s too bad. I know it might surprise some people but there are firefighters, medics, cops, doctors with similar beliefs. I don’t believe that even misguided political beliefs should keep him out of the HoF, unless he’s a Nazi.
@@shiftymenno nobody faults you for still being plugged into the matrix but you should consider unplugging yourself from the propaganda tube.
To stand up in front of a crowd and tell such painful truths, this is one of the bravest and most courageous humans I can think of.
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He absolutely deserves to be in the hall of fame, not only for contributions on the ice but for the good he's done off it. If people can't have empathy and understanding for the trauma he's endured in his childhood that is very sad. A warrior on and off the ice.
ABSOLUTELY #14 Should be Retired 👊
Fleury is a champion in my eyes. He may not be my all time fave player, but he is one of my fave human beings. He is still living the life of a fighter and a friend to the little guys of the world. Hails to Theo.
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He’s a champion in a literal sense too- he won the cup & gold medal.
I can understand how Theo felt regarding Graham James. I had Graham James as a coach for two seasons, the guy could get under your skin, and was good at motivating on & off the ice. Hope Theo finds inner peace now and can focus on his life & family(always been a big fan and was a big hockey inspiration on the ice growing up, the grit & the extra mile the guy would go on the ice). Flames... time to retire that number 14!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏
were you raped by James as well? because if not, I somehow doubt you understand how Theo felt.
You overlooking the fact that James molested Fleury repeatedly
Even as a lifelong Oiler fan watching this man terrorize my team while growing up, I can still say without a doubt that it is an absolute crime that he is not in the Hall. If Bure and Lindros somehow deserved it, Fleury more than deserves it.
Considering all the adversity he endured in his life, his accomplishments are that much more impressive. He should absolutely be in the hall of fame!!!
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What a remarkable story. It proves you can’t measure a man’s heart and desire by his size. Unbelievable what he had to overcome in his life.
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Theo Fleury!! One of my favorite players all of time, I’m so glad you posted this, people really needed to know his story and what he went through, I’m glad he’s doing better today than where he was beforehand.
Jamal my man … thanks again! ✌️
I'm 5'8". You don't get how hard it is for a short dude to even play beer league hockey against 6'2" guys. What a machine to do it in the show.
Great video! I answer YES to each of both questions asked. What's amazing with Fleury as well is his ability to give back as a person, despite the many challenges he dealt with throughout his life. Hope he lives in serenity from now on.
Merci … I agree with your thoughts on Theo! 👍
He would be a scratch on HOF pre-2010 but the fact that he has such high redemption value post-hockey, it's almost a bad look on the NHL to not induct him in the HOF. He's explained his erratic behavior and he's worked (and working) on getting others help and he's got numbers and accolades to back it up - get him in there!
It's his political stance keeping him out. Pretty obvious.
I got to see him play for the Avalanche that year, on the line with Claude Lemieux & Dale Hunter, who were there to absolutely annoy the other teams. A whole line of pests!!!! He was clearly a better skater than most of the other players on the ice. :D
Did not know that … what a trio!
@@ProHockeyAlumni Well it was just a very short time because it was after the trade deadline, and then Hunter and Fleury went away the next season. It was as if they just wanted to amplify Claude Lemieux's talents and on-ice personality. :D I remember I was an interview with the three of them talking about their role as a line. Colorado has a history of investing in the NHLs top annoyances. (I also loved it when Barnaby came to town.) But like I said, it was clear when you saw Theo Fleury live in front of you that he was much better and faster than the normal NHL player. It was fun to watch.
Love Fleury. Went to his hockey school as a kid and he was out there often with us little guys.
Wanted to add I served him as a bartender years later when he first left the NHL. Think he had a drink or two, seemed totally sober never would have guessed he had addiction issues.
And I chickened out on talking to him and telling him I remembered him from his hockey school!
Theo is part of a rare group of players who managed an NHL season with 100+ points with 100+ PIMs. Theo did it three times in a row in juniors in the WHL and one time in 1990-91 in the NHL.
In my book one of the most memorable things from Fleury's career was the season opener in 1998-99 when his Flames played the first two regular season games at the Yoyogi Arena in Tokyo, Japan against the Sharks on back-to-back nights (Oct 9th & 10th).
It was the swimming and diving venue for the 1964 Summer Olympic Games.
Theo jokingly asked "Hey,'' peering up at the 3-metre diving board for the first time, "if you climb up on one of those things and jump, do you get two minutes for diving?"
Theo had 3 goals, 3 assists, +4, 4 PIMs (high-sticking & roughing) and 12 SOG from those two games.
Bernie Nicholls thought it was "ridiculous" having to go on a 15-hour flight one way for two games overseas and then back again. "Absolutely (bleep)ing ridiculous."
Another cool thing about that Flames-Sharks two-game adventure in Japan was that the Sutter brothers Brian and Darryl were the head coaches.
There were immediate technical issues. For instance: the boat carting a huge refrigeration unit designed to maintain ice quality ran into a typhoon en route from L.A. to Tokyo and suffered major damage to one side, requiring quick repair.
The games drew 8,400 and 9,000 spectators to the 10,000-seat venue.
"It was,'' said Fleury, the undisputed star of the show, "a pleasure." "When people approached you, it was never 'Sign this!' Nobody shoving stuff in your face."
"They respect you, respect your space and expect you to show them the same sort of respect back."
"Now is that a basis for living, or what?"
Great history there … appreciated!⭐️
That’s really cool! I walk by that venue in Japan every week on the way to play hockey at the little rink next to it. I didn’t know the Flames played an exhibition game there. I’ll think of Fleury and the Flames now when I walk past.
@@williamm3691 How cool that you are walking by there every week!
Yes the NHL chose that Yoyogi arena for two consecutive season openers, actually.
In 1997-98 the Anaheim Ducks and Vancouver Canucks played two regular season games on back-to-back nights at the Yoyogi Arena (October 3rd & 4th).
Game 1: Vancouver 3 Anaheim 2
Game 2: Vancouver 2 Anaheim 3
The following season 1998-99 Calgary Flames and San Jose Sharks played two regular season games at Yoyogi like I mentioned above (October 9th & 10th).
Game 1: Calgary 3 San Jose 3 (OT)
Game 2: Calgary 5 San Jose 3
And these Japanese games continued for a third and final time in the 2000-01 season when the Nashville Predators and Pittsburgh Penguins played back-to-back regular season games at the Saitama Super Arena (October 6th & 7th).
Game 1: Pittsburgh 1 Nashville 3
Game 2: Pittsburgh 3 Nashville 1
@@williamm3691 In each of these three seasons the teams traveling to Japan had five off days after flying back home again.
@@williamm3691 There was a fight in that very first game in Yoyogi Arena between Vancouver and Anaheim. Donald Brashear fought Brent Severyn, there is footage here on CZcams if you search for it. I just watched it on a channel called Lady Byng.
I also checked the Vancouver Sun newspaper archive just now and on page 1 of the October 4th, 1997 issue there's a photo of Donald Brashear smiling and arm-wrestling Japanese wrestler Yoshiaki Fujiwara inside the Yoyogi Arena on the Friday before the game.
Hes a fighter. He will never go down on his knees. People need to remember this was the era of giants in the nhl.
Hes still fighting but now for his country
Theoren Fleury deserves to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
I would take this guy on my team , anytime , any day. I loved watching him during his run with Calgary.
Hard to believe he played on a line with Dougie Gilmour. Those 2 guys are the definition of "grit".
I wish him well going forward.
Agreed … Theo and Gilmore together were unreal - so much for size!
Without question his number should be retired in Calgary. He has EARNED the right to be in the HHOF but their selection process is a mystery to all.
All the stories you guys tell are done with such respect for the person. I like Theo a lot and I started watching this video with a bit of skepticism. But you did an excellent job making this video. It’s a good testament to a great player who also had “a life” that, thankfully, he survived and overcame. Great job!
That means a lot and I appreciate your thoughts …. I have a lot of respect for the players as human beings and try to bring a balanced approach to each vid. Thank you! 🙏🏒
This dude was always my Hero, I grew up in Michigan a half hour from Detroit, Born in 1990 so my team was the Wings, but after playing 16 years on leagues I realized I was also too short. I’m 33 and 5’6 and 1/2 so I followed the little guys careers. It was one thing to put up triple and quad Hat-Tricks in peewee 1 and 2 but once I got to the high school ages my height became a worry but I was still carrying my teams. I even had people who were regulars at my local roller rink show up to watch me during our sunday games when I was playing roller hockey because when the ice league season ended the roller season began and I could just hog the puck and basically score when I wanted. Forced them to put me in a higher age bracket and was still carrying my team against kids two to three years older than me. I still love Hockey, but being a little guy with a passion like pro sports really sucks. After I quit hockey it was on to partying and dropping out of high school. Got my GED and plan to start reffing or coaching here soon.
Thanks, Bugsy … interesting reflection 👍🔥
@@ProHockeyAlumni Thank you, sir. You do great work with these videos man I love catching up on videos I missed out on. Keep up the good work! I’m hoping to join a 30+ league after getting back in shape this summer and I plan on recording my journey. Plan on making a second channel for hockey videos. Sadly these days finding a passion is hard so I’m blessed to have Hockey as a passion.
Do it Coach Bugz!
Theo really connected with the everyday fan. Years ago on Twitter you could message him all the time and have a discussion. He'd always take time for you if you wanted to have a respectful discussion on hockey, politics, etc.
Interesting and good to know 👍
I love Theo...but man his time on the NY Rangers was rough. He and I got into a shouting match about him not scoring enough during a pre-game skate in his first year in New York. FYI: Grew up in a rough way too. My mother was a lunatic and my father worked 7 days a week. By the time I was 14 I was 90% on my own.
Glad you made it through . Thanks for sharing! 💪
Boo hoo. Cry me a river.
Fun player to watch. Pound for pound the best hockey player.
I loved Fleury. Glad he conquered his addictions. His 2 books are great as well. They are actually great tools
The heart of a lion. Takes courage to stand for what you believe in and Theo is a bigger hero now than ever.
100%❤
Absolutely!
Such an inspiring story. This guy deserves all the best.
He is my favorite player of all time. Merci Theo
Met him while I was in New York at rangers camp. Down-to-earth, genuine and really nice to him myself as well as all the other rookies... At one point I looked around and couldn't believe I was in a hot tub with him and Kevin Stevens just shooting the shit
Long time Flames and Fleury fan since i was 8 years old, im 40 now...enjoyed watching this mini doc and hopeful the Flames eventually honor him by retiring the #14 and eventually the H.H.O.F. comes a calling. Congrats on getting sober and helping others in life Theo 👊👊
great comment!
I think given his numbers and how much of a player he was on the ice that the Flames should retire his number. And he should be in the Hockey Hall of Fame. He played with everything he had despite everything that happened to him. Lesser people would have never made it. Given his life and traumatic experiences, he would have been dead a long time ago. It is easy to die, it is a lot harder to live with your life. Good luck to you Theo!
Good thoughts - thx for sharing! ⭐️
The thing is his recent public profile is not something they will want to elevate
I think we all should start blitzing the Flames organization and demand his jersey's retirement. Its time this business was done and the Flames showed some class.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 not gonna do a bit of good. They won't do it unless he can somehow rehab his image, because right now he just looks like a hardcore right wing nut.
Absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame. His recovery from such abuse is very inspiring.
This guy is a hero. At his peak he was one of the best hockey player. Near his downfall everyone was bashing him. They didn't the Hell he lived through. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
Agreed … thanks 🙏 for your input
I think "hero" is now a bit of a reach. An admirable hockey career; a total dick as a person.
He was always one of favorite players. A very tough competitor. Took no crap from anyone, no matter their size. I played the same way in goal.
He was my favorite player growing up and all I ever wanted was to be 5'7" so I could be taller than him!
That being said; he's a scumbag piece of shit.
I know several people that either know him personally, or have met him at a party, or AA, or a bar, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON talks about how big of an asshole he is and how they wanted to beat the shit out of him.
It eventually happened.
Before you justify and make excuses for his bullshit, save your time.
It's called personal accountability. He has none and blames others rather than taking responsibility for his actions.
Fuck him.
What a great watch that was! Thank you for posting this
Thanks so much -- greatly appreciated!🔥
met theo in an airport in detroit while he was playing with the flames. i was blown away by how cool he was. the whole team was walking in and i said, "hey, theo" he got out of the team procession and came over and talked to me. We talked for a long time. probably close to 10 mins. he was so cool and such a great guy.
For all he went through you really cant blame the man for how he coped when you take in all the factors from how he was raised to the heartbreaking abuse he endured. Really too he never truly made a negative impact on any teams except the blackhawks but he was at his lowest point and they were basement dwellers at that point. I'm really glad he had a happy ending and his now in a good spot, he truly deserves every bit of it.
Thanks - good thoughts RR!
IMO, Theo Fleury should be SERIOUSLY considered for induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame. He was a player who achieved much and gave much to the game of hockey and even though his career was marked with turmoil and controversy, his play on the ice should be how he is judged. I also believe that the abuses he endured caused him to act out and to gravitate toward the vices he sought in order to deal with the pain he was experiencing. This is a human being we're talking about here. This video chronicles his early life (so tragic) and then the abuses that took place by Graham James (who should NEVER get out of prison). He did what he needed to do in order to clean up his life and has now helped thousands of young hockey players to avoid the pain he endured due to the abuses that were tragically and unfairly preyed upon him and others. C'mon Lanny, you and Theo were teammates for the Flames Stanley Cup victory in 1989. With your influence at the HHOF, you should be able to sway many of the voters and get Theo into the hallowed Hall. If foe no other reason, he needs to be inducted in order to send a positive message to the hockey world that these tragedies can be overcome and someone who has paid such a price can ultimately be rewarded with the distinction of Hall of Fame induction.
Theo was born in Sask but Russel is in Manitoba, not far from the Sask border. As an Oilers fan and also being bilorn in Sask, I loved seeing this guy on the sports reels. Such a legend❤
Loved watching him play…. One of my favorite players ever !
Had no idea about any of this ! Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for watching! And for commenting!
Everyone knew he played with a chip on his shoulder but I always assumed it was all because of his size. Love the detail in your content.. Nice Job & Thank You !
I remember reading his book years ago. He is a legend on the ice and a courageous person for telling his story, big respect to this man
im such a huge fan of Fleury and growing up a Chicago Blackhawk fan it drove me crazy how good he was...he was an incredible hockey player and for him to still be alive after enduring the hell he deal with makes me love him more every day. God Bless you Theo!!! THE VERY BEST LITTLE GUY OF ALL TIME!!!
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Damn right !! growing up in Calgary he was a legend.... playing road hockey we all wanted to be Theo!!
This guy is amazing! Great story nice to see someone go through all he has and then make a comeback a true inspiration! God Bless!!!
As a fellow 5'5"er I've always loved Theo and knowing what he has been through and survived in life only makes me love him more. He's an inspiration.
Guy was more than a ppg through more than 1k games in the NHL, beast
Theo is actually a big man…one of the most determined men…and an inspiration to not only to the people told they can’t do it, but to the forgotten kids that don’t have fully invested parents.
No question he should be in ! Against all odds he produced and is an example of never giving up. Life is not perfect and neither are any of us ! He overcame and can help many people carry on as well as have hope !
Thx a bunch man
Growing up as small hockey player in Calgary during the 90s, Theo was my hero. It's a shame that his number hasn't been retired by CGY or been inducted into the HHOF..he absolutely deserves it.
Only 15 players in NHL history have averaged at least 1 point per game in both reg season (Min 1000 games) and playoffs (Min 75 games).Fourteen are in the HHOF and includes: Gretzky, Sakic, Esposito, Beliveau, Howe, and Messier. (Lemieux is not included, due to only playing 915 reg season games, but to me that's a wash...) How Theo is excluded from this group is simply criminal.
One note about Fleury and Gretzky in relation to the Olympics roster ..if I remember correctly, Gretz basically said to the rest of the selection committee "You can pick whoever you want to be on this team, but I'm picking Fleury to be on this team and that's not up for discussion"
24:20 Just imagine McDavid having to deal with slashes like this all game... now he draws 'interference' penalties for getting hit while in possession of the puck. Conversely, imagine Theo playing in today's game..he'd be top 5 in scoring every year.
So many of today's fans don't know how soft the league has become. Hell they can't even recognize how much softer society is as a whole.
Great post AA …. Thanks for sharing! ☝️
@@ProHockeyAlumni Thanks!! I should also add.. only 15 players in NHL history have averaged at least 1 point per game in both reg season (Min 1000 games) and playoffs (Min 75 games).Fourteen are in the HHOF and includes: Gretzky, Sakic, Esposito, Beliveau, Howe, and Messier. (Lemieux is not included, due to only playing 915 reg season games, but to me that's a wash...) How Theo is excluded from this group is simply criminal.
Im an old Canucks fan and loved him as a heel, sad he never played for us. 'Even without the antics he was highly entertaining, nobody could catch him oftimes.
Theo Fleury deserves to be in the NHL hall of fame.
I was 5'5" and 150 trying to make the NHL in the 60/70s and had to scrap and fight to prove myself. It's a tough life and few make it to the bigs, but Fleury had the drive and skill to overcome the incompetence and evil of others. Can't blame the guy for self medicating, especially as there were no guides or councilors or NHLPA program to help. Good on Theo for a great career and for sticking it to the "big man" system.
MC - another quality post 🏒
This is one of the best hockey channels (maybe the best) I’ve seen on YT. Love your work. Great video. Theo was a great player and is a great man.
Thank you 🙏 … you made my day! I appreciate your support!👊
@@ProHockeyAlumni wow, now you made my day!! Love your videos, man. I’ll keep tuning in!
One of the best "small players" to ever play in the NHL. Way to go Theo
To accomplish what he did while dealing with the cards life dealt him, regardless of his choices or not...he should be in the HOF! To deny him that honor, is an affront to all that battle their demons and prevail in the end.
Wow. Just wow. Now one of my all-time favorite players and certainly rooting for him as a person.
Great vlog . Fleury is an amazing man and should already be in the hall of fame. He is loved by many
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Flyers GM laughing at teams right after they draft the “wrong guy”. Name a more iconic duo.
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Great Job! The quality of your uploads continue to go up! And this, is not an easy topic to discuss? Which topic? (Some may ask.)
Almost all of them, especially when it comes to Theo. As a Montrealer and young fan, I was devastated by the Flames 89 victory! People spoke about Calgary, the players and all the reasons, to be happy for the Flames. As a 12 year old, in 89. Nothing else but the Stanley Cup Mattered.
Closing in on 35 years later, I still don't enjoy watching that 6th game, Lanny and the only time that the Cup would be raised on Forum ice, by an opposing team. I usually look away. LoL
After your video, I finally have a reason to release, (an iota of) my Anger. Fleury getting to win, is a great thing. A great inspiration to all of the "Little Guys". My favorite player for the Canadiens was Chris Nilan, so I can appreciate the plight of the underdog!
I went through a lot of the bad things mentioned in this video and the fact that Theo got it out of his system, The right way! Should be an inspiration for anyone who has trauma and decide to bury it. From experience, I can say, "As long as you keep fighting, it's going to come out eventually. So why not get it out now."
With someone who wants to help. People may laugh and I know "the Canadian system". I have been on waiting lists for a long time! Lol But just putting your name down, feels good. And it's the first step. Others may find solace through friends, family or even "Personal Heroes" , Like Theo Fleury!
Cheers from Montreal Canada.
Hang in there guys and gals, there are people that can help. Crying and letting go of emotions is not a sign of weekness! It's a sign of courage and a sign, that it may be your turn, to get better :)
If anyone needs to talk, seriously. I am open to helping, any way I can. Send me an e-mail and we can talk, whenever you're ready :)
You made my day PR … thanks so much for your continued support! 🇨🇦🙏🏒
This mini documentary is amazing that you’ve made.. good stuff man!
🙏 thank you. The Theo doc was a long process - glad you enjoyed it.
Got to watch him play for Horse Lake in the Allen Cup in Red Deer. Always loved him. Remember one time we left the hockey rink after a minor hockey game and dad popped the flames game on the radio and the first thing we heard was "Fleury ELECTRIFIES the crowd!!!!" Me and my buddy quoted that for years whenever one of us would score lol. And when the flames played the wings in 2004 playoffs my old man took me to the dome for a playoff game they showed Theo on the jumbotron sitting in the crown and the place went absolutely crazy.
Fleury is awesome. Reminds me so much of Roddy Piper 💪
Is this guy is not inducted into the NHL Hall of Fame it would literally be a crime they better put him in the Hall of Fame he definitely deserves it he was amazing thanks for the great video
Always liked Fleury because he was a short guy who played like he was 6'2. Much respect to a player who should have been in the hall 10 years ago.
Playing as a small guy in the 80's/90's NHL and not only surviving, but thriving - was impressive to say the least. All he went through, and still being a star player was crazy. Lucky to be alive. I loved his tenacity and eff-you attitude. Proved that it's not the size of the dog in the fight - it's the size of the fight in the dog...
Theo deserves to be in the hockey hall of fame, hands down no contest!
This man needs to be in the NHL HOF
He endured more than would break most men. That's one tough SOB!
Excellent Video..
I appreciate all of your hardwork/editing on this Story..
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Respect from Gatineau Quebec 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦
This man is an incredible person who has overcome so much and that's why I admire him.
If he can't be in the hall of Fame for some reason he at least deserves a medal or something. To win a Stanley cup and perform at that level for that long dealing with all that stuff, it's no wonder he had to let off some steam. Its my prayer that he is able to move on past all that and that he's living and enjoying his best life now. Put him in the hall..
Being a life long Flames and Fleury fan the 14 jersey should be lifted and hung from the Saddledome rafters. I think the man has payed his dues in life. Please respect the man he has become and undoubtedly the career he had. Love you Theo ✌️
I heard from Theo today … I’m sure he’ll appreciate your great thoughts expressed here. 🙏
I met Theo in 2010, couldn’t have been more nicer..
Retire #14 Calgary!!
I loved that dudes tenacity! I enjoyed watching him play the game and that's saying alot growing up in Detroit. I'm not just a Wings fan but ultimately a hockey fan. He is in my top 5 favorite players!
An absolute legend.
Theo is a Canadian hero. He may have been small but played big. Beat the odds after being dealt a bad hand. Hockey hall of fame yes. 🇨🇦
He's a raging lunatic though.
Theo Fleury is a Superhero. I can not believe all he has overcome. I agree with all of his politics. Ask anyone the ever played against him in the NHL if he belongs in the HOF and I think it will be an overwhelming yes - especially Oliers fans.
My goodness, my heart breaks for him. I hope he okay today and continues to tell his story that so many adults will relate too, but who have never disclosed ❤
Man .. I got chills when they chanted his name .. As a druggy and drunk most of my life I feel a kindred spirit with Him .. I love who He grew to be .. ❤❤❤
Awesome! 👊 great thoughts