Strange Moments From What's My Line

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  • Here are a few clips of what were possibly the strangest moments of this lauded CBS Game Show, which aired on Sunday Nights for seventeen years (1950 - 1967) and was hosted by John Daly. This classic program, the premise of which simply was a panel of 4 celebrities try to name a contestants occupation, was a staple of mid 20th Century television. The show aired live every Sunday, and sometimes there were some unforseen events. Here are a few of them. First, Mystery Guest Melina Mercouri and John Daly are a bit rattled by an intruder who suddenly pops up and starts to shill for a "dating service" before he is quickly escorted away by Johnny Olson and producer Gil Fates, the next one has Buddy Hackett introducing long-time show stalwart Dorothy Kilgallen and she appears to be drunk possibly, which is rather unsettling, and finally, comedian Henry Morgan expresses displeasure at also long-time stalwart Bennett Cerf's uneasy intro and him and John Daly's dull banter. All from the early to mid 1960s and all very strange!

Komentáře • 726

  • @terrihenricks4160
    @terrihenricks4160 Před 7 lety +106

    It is interesting that the intruder was escorted off by announcer Johnny Olsen and producer Gil Fates. There apparently were no security people on duty. Could you imagine a television show today with that kind of lax security?
    Henry Morgan was right about Bennett Cerf's story being boring, but his rude interruption was totally out of place on this genteel program.

    • @MarilynMonday
      @MarilynMonday Před 6 lety +5

      Terri henricks I think he thought he was the mystery challenger, the host mentioned a second schedule. Might've been ready for the wrong episode.

    • @jeffstumpf9129
      @jeffstumpf9129 Před 6 lety +18

      Terri Hendricks, well exactly. Henry may be right about both Bennett's and John's puns, jokes and stories, but it was wrong of him to be so ill-mannered. He wasn't exactly a great wit, himself.

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 Před 5 lety +12

      I think Henry suffered from 'Hal-Block-Syndrome', where his painful inability to make a funny remark was apparent to everyone but himself.

    • @Dharmon1
      @Dharmon1 Před 5 lety +6

      Marilyn Monday schedule 2 means that something is happening on the stage, and they put the cameras in neutral position, as well as shut off the microphones.

    • @MB-ny5rn
      @MB-ny5rn Před 4 lety +12

      I read many years ago that this "intruder" was actually someone who was supposed to walk on camera and give a short commercial blurb. So he did exactly what he was supposed to be doing. The problem was he went to the wrong studio and wound up on WML in error.

  • @TheKristobald
    @TheKristobald Před 11 lety +23

    Usually I consider Bennet as terribly pompous, but I was almost sorry for him when Morgan cut him off. He always looks so happy to chatter. Love John Daly's way of dealing with the conflict: what an elegant host !

    • @animalntelligence3170
      @animalntelligence3170 Před rokem +7

      It was embarrassing to watch and I do not think anyone handled it very well -- the host tried to defend Cerf by completing the story and that did not work too well either. I do not think Morgan should have said anything if only because Cerf had not in fact gone on that long. No one likes to be treated that way and if Cerf was a little pompous, firstly, he had earned it, he was indeed a smart and educated man but more importantly, he sure seemed like a nice enough guy to me. Henry Morgan may not have meant anything by it, just going for a laugh or maybe they had some problems with each other that we don't know about -- I doubt that after that exchange they remained very friendly. One thing I have noticed: if you embarrass someone, they sure remember it. I made a mean remark at a meeting that was out of line and actually could have gotten me fired -- I did not get fired but the guy waited two years before he retaliated, I am pretty sure, for that remark as far in the past that it was. Anyway, I doubt that Morgan was invited to any of Cerf's swanky parties after that. If Morgan had apologized promptly, perhaps a wise man like Cerf would have been impressed but if Morgan did not offer his hand right after the show, I do not believe Cerf would have forgiven him: I do believe if you offend someone, you can minimize the damage by apologizing promptly, otherwise the offended person firstly has plenty of time to relive the embarrassment and secondly, your motives might be suspect: if you wait to apologize until you need a favor, guess how that guy will retaliate?

    • @toreckman8899
      @toreckman8899 Před rokem +2

      Not me. I loved it. Good work Mr Morgan.

  • @shuboy05
    @shuboy05 Před 6 lety +21

    I just find it funny that the intruder picked the Mystery Guest to drop in. With the panel in blindfolds they had no idea something had gone wrong!

  • @Marckymarc71
    @Marckymarc71 Před 15 lety +42

    You can hear her sneeze at 2:01 . At 2:06 after she recovers, she says, "I'm sorry", with perfect clarity. As for Buddy's reaction, that's hardly proof of anything.
    Again, people don't just suddenly go from clear-headed to slurred drunk and back again.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 Před 3 lety +7

      It was a mini stroke.

    • @joycejean-baptiste4355
      @joycejean-baptiste4355 Před 2 lety +7

      Well stifling a sneeze is no fun with a camera in your face on national T. V. She got though what ever it was. They did use tranquilizers and cocktails back then I imagine. The doctor with his black bag could do house calls and have tranquilizers on hand as needed. They were so busy with travel and show business it's a wonder how they got enough sleep and rest. Miss Kilgallen had children and a husband and her writing schedule. Jet lagged at times they all probably were sometimes and needed the pep pills perhaps.

  • @DodderingOldMan
    @DodderingOldMan Před 5 lety +17

    Man... okay, at first I thought it was probably a mini-stroke, but looking back at it, it really is quite clear that the innocent answer is the correct one: she was stifling a sneeze. That's exactly how I'd talk if I had a sudden severe irritation in the upper breathing tract, but was absolutely *determined* that the show must go on and I had to finish my sentence. Note that she does finally manage to get Cerf's name out fine and apologises after that final little cough.

  • @tracy4683
    @tracy4683 Před 14 lety +19

    If you listen closely you can hear Dorothy Kilgallen say that she had to sneeze. She was simply trying not to sneeze on air.

    • @DRUOPS
      @DRUOPS Před 2 měsíci

      How does that excuse her inability to pronounce "Ft Lauderdale"?
      Drunk as a skunk.

  • @torchkit
    @torchkit Před 15 lety +19

    No, she fully recovered and was back to normal for the rest of that episode.

  • @The_A_Cast
    @The_A_Cast Před 4 lety +15

    When you hear John Daley say Schedule 2, it’s a term I learned in broadcasting. It pretty much means that something has happened on the air and the cameras need to be immediately focused on primarily the emcee or host or another “neutral” area. And also for the audio the be immediately muted until the call for said “Schedule 2” is lifted.
    Edit: I wrote this before I seen the other gentleman comment explaining schedule 2 long before I did.

  • @jimmysudar
    @jimmysudar Před 11 lety +17

    to me henry morgan (not even a regular) was rude and his actions uncalled for and out of place.
    and yes, daly is just a wonder: he rescued the situation from awkwardness, put morgan in his place, showed solidarity with bennet, had a laugh, and got the show back on track; that's keen instinct and even better character.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety

      jimmysudar You are delusional about the last part. Cerf was a ham, apparently and admitted ham, and lovedthe limelight and wanted to dominate the show which was not his show. for some reason he got away with it because he owned a publishing company and everybody wanted him to publish their book. He wasn’t always in the last position on the panel yeah obviously jockey to get that early on but initially he was not in that position and probably not even a regular at first. He was a crook who started a fraudulent writing score that bilked tens of millions of dollars out of hard working author wannabes With no talent only dreams.

    • @toreckman8899
      @toreckman8899 Před rokem

      I laughed and laughed. Cerf is a bloviating blow hole.

    • @user-db6pt7vr3l
      @user-db6pt7vr3l Před 4 měsíci

      The story he was trying to tell was hilariously awful.

  • @amberola1b
    @amberola1b Před 8 lety +106

    Bennett Cerff and John Charles Daley definitely weren't amused by Henry Morgan's comment. John especially looked
    pissed.

    • @nowvoyagerNE
      @nowvoyagerNE Před 5 lety +4

      John Daly was a verbose, conceited egomaniac. Henry Morgan was a curmudgeon.

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 Před 5 lety +23

      @@nowvoyagerNE How fortunate we are to have your first-hand knowledge of the actual characters of these men. It must have been so interesting for you to have been one of their intimate friends. I look forward to further enlightening remarks from you about their real personalities, which of course would have been so different from the personas they assumed for the cameras.

    • @marjoriemargel1567
      @marjoriemargel1567 Před 5 lety +5

      Jason Hurd You never know... he might have known them...

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 Před 5 lety

      @@marjoriemargel1567 Believe me, a guy like that, if he had known them, that would have been the first thing he wrote. He'd have been yelling it all over the Internet.

    • @Blasphemiah
      @Blasphemiah Před 5 lety +5

      @@jasonhurd4379 How fortunate we are to have your first-hand knowledge of the actual character of this guy. It must have been so interesting for you to be one of his intimate friends. I look forward to further enlightening remarks from you about his real personality, which of course would have been so different from the persona he assumes for the internet.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 14 lety +21

    @rmul91 "Schedule 2" is live TV jargon meaning "We have an emergency on the stage, focus the cameras into a neutral position and shut down the sound." And -- that is exactly what happens as Johnny Olsen, Gil Fates and Bob Bach collect the guy and hustle him off the stage.

  • @MajorSeventh
    @MajorSeventh Před 11 lety +16

    Don't mess with Johnny Olson. :-) When he escorts you out, you go out.

  • @CSAlmanac
    @CSAlmanac Před 12 lety +15

    About the man that showed up on stage, John Daly remained a class act even then. He handled that incredibly professionally, did not lose his head, and even simply called for "the relieving unit." That was excellent. Henry Morgan on the other hand...I hope he never got invited back on the show after that. You could tell it was not just him being playfully caustic to Bennet and John, and the crowd did not appreciate it. I did not appreciate it either now 40 something years later.

  • @VolkswagenNut1969
    @VolkswagenNut1969 Před 14 lety +47

    You can even hear her say to Bennett as he comes out.... "I'm sorry, I had to sneeze."

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 Před 4 lety +13

      Tim Moses I think that was more serious than 'a sneeze'.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety +6

      Dave Sanderson You make a lousy detective

    • @oliviamartini9700
      @oliviamartini9700 Před 4 lety +8

      @@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath She had a serious pill and alcohol addiction and appeared on the show wasted many times.

    • @camelspider2376
      @camelspider2376 Před 4 lety +6

      Olivia Martini how do you know? Were you there?

    • @oliviamartini9700
      @oliviamartini9700 Před 4 lety +10

      @@camelspider2376 It was an open secret (you only need to google it) and caused her early death - which, mind you, was suspicious. Many think she was murdered, but like Marilyn's death, is unquestioned when the deceased had a history of addiction. This is not a judgment call. Dorothy Kilgallen was a genius, smarter than the rest of the panel put together, which is why they tolerated it. And back then doctors routinely prescribed uppers and downers in a Mad Men drinking culture, so her problem was common, and unpleasant things seldom discussed.

  • @drbuzzmann
    @drbuzzmann Před 14 lety +12

    Great to see a very young Melina Mercouri! She was always actively involved in many aspects of the Greek social and political world, in addition to her impressive career as a singer and as a film and stage actress. She was appointed Minister for Culture of Greece; being the first female in that post in 1981. It was psychologically interesting to watch her reactions to the intruder, completely unafraid. She died on March 6, 1994, at the age of 73 from lung cancer in New York City.

  • @karlakor
    @karlakor Před 15 lety +12

    My first reaction to Dorothy was to assume she was drunk, but after watching this clip a few times, it now seems that she was trying to stifle a sneeze. Some people say she had problems with alcohol, but in this case I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. I remember seeing this episode when it first aired, and I know that she played the rest of the game without incident.

    • @pattimaeda6097
      @pattimaeda6097 Před rokem +2

      🙄 yeah “sneeze” right😂

    • @scorch_7628
      @scorch_7628 Před rokem +3

      @@pattimaeda6097 it seems to me that she had a small minor stroke with the slurring of her words, and the fact she had no problem the rest of the game and she may of tried to play it off as a sneeze. and or she just had a really strange sneeze, there are some people that have strange sneezes

  • @galileocan
    @galileocan Před 12 lety +58

    There was nothing amusing about Henry Morgan's behaviour. He was an invited guest to the show who had an ego the size of New York City itself. His actions would be the same as someone invited to another's home and then trying to embarrass their host in front of others. Daly clearly wasn't pleased and stood up for Bennett Cerf. Had I been Goodson & Todman, I would have never invited the pompous Morgan on the show ever again.

    • @lenhummel5614
      @lenhummel5614 Před 4 lety +6

      Henry could be nasty and rude. I'm sure he realized he had embarassed himself. That said, the man could be very funny and quick witted.

    • @longfield0023
      @longfield0023 Před 4 lety +9

      He seems like an ass.

    • @ericstuart7748
      @ericstuart7748 Před 4 lety +3

      Had Groucho said what Henry did, instead of criticizing Groucho people would have been ok with it.

    • @donbagert
      @donbagert Před 4 lety +1

      You might be interested in this - on I've Got a Secret, it was once revealed he once owned some land in New York City, that, sometime after he sold it, became very valuable when it was purchased to become part of the permanent site of the then-new United Nations!

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety +1

      Don Bagert Who sold it, Groucho?

  • @jeffmissinne3866
    @jeffmissinne3866 Před 12 lety +25

    If you're bored with Bennett Cerf...would that make you a cerfbored?

    • @pedmst
      @pedmst Před 4 lety +3

      That may be best pun ever!! Lol

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 Před 2 lety +4

      Bennett would approve.

  • @mysnellvilleblog
    @mysnellvilleblog Před 10 lety +164

    I don't think Dorothy was drunk either -- I think she was stifling a sneeze and she was trying to talk through it. Not easy. lol

    • @farmertice7064
      @farmertice7064 Před 5 lety +10

      MAYBE NOT ALCOHOL, BUT POSSIBLY DRUGS.

    • @johnsmith-wx5fb
      @johnsmith-wx5fb Před 5 lety +22

      Watch news reporter has stroke it looks a lot like that.

    • @superchitownhustler
      @superchitownhustler Před 5 lety +6

      ludes.

    • @rachel9120
      @rachel9120 Před 5 lety +7

      @@superchitownhustler I agree. It could be those older timey drugs everyone was on. Ludes and other barbiturates that were popular back then (like the kind marylin monroe od from, cant remember the names)

    • @cherylboinske3411
      @cherylboinske3411 Před 5 lety +14

      she was sneezing!

  • @Jiffybob47
    @Jiffybob47 Před 12 lety +14

    my first thought about Dorothy was that she was having a stroke or something. but a sneeze seems more likely.

  • @slc2466
    @slc2466 Před 2 lety +6

    I wish after Morgan said "What time does this show go on?" Bennett had retorted with "When you stop being an a-hole, so we'll never get it on the air."

  • @Marckymarc71
    @Marckymarc71 Před 15 lety +23

    Wow, Morgan was a real ass there. Good to see John stick up for his friend, Bennett.

  • @ParkerAllen2
    @ParkerAllen2 Před 15 lety +12

    Well, you either like the show or you don't. For me part of the appeal was a pace that wasn't unnaturally hyper (as so much TV is), and which allowed the regular panelists to be casual and charming - which they were.

  • @signalfire6
    @signalfire6 Před 10 lety +10

    Dorothy was just stifling a sneeze...

  • @IceSkater8491
    @IceSkater8491 Před 9 lety +66

    I never could stand Henry Morgan, he was such a smart ass and felt he was so important as well

    • @edslomka9840
      @edslomka9840 Před 9 lety +4

      I totally Agree.....Should get the pole from out of his a**.....Sorry but the rest of the panels are excellent except Bennett C who always guesses too early or knows too much of those in NYC....I like a show that drags a bit.

    • @galileocan
      @galileocan Před 7 lety +16

      He wasn't a "smart ass". A smart ass is someone you can have a laugh at even though they are being naughty. Morgan did his best to throw off Cerf and attempt to embarrass him on national television. After Cerf gets frustrated and sits down, a close up of Morgan shows the sheer joy he got in getting Mr. Cerf off his game. Henry Morgan was despicable, deplorable, arrogant, ignorant and a pig.

    • @danielfronc4304
      @danielfronc4304 Před 6 lety +1

      Galileocan g And that is a very kind understatement of the man. What he was known as and for. What a legacy to leave.

    • @joanneentwistle7653
      @joanneentwistle7653 Před 6 lety +5

      Who was Henry Morgan? And why am I giving him more attention than he deserves by asking this question? Also, I find it amusing that even psychopathic stalkers wore a proper suit back then:)

    • @marjoriemargel1567
      @marjoriemargel1567 Před 5 lety +4

      Vickie Harris Isn’t it funny how viewed these people back then vs. today? When it aired, I thought Henry Morgan was so intelligent, so witty, and such dry humor.
      Today, I see what you see, a pompous, vain, egomaniac!

  • @wmlfan9
    @wmlfan9 Před 15 lety +14

    Let's give Dorothy the benefit of the doubt - she was trying to stifle a sneeze. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi Před 13 lety +4

    It looks like Dorothy was not drunk but in the throws of a stifled sneeze.

  • @hifithepanda
    @hifithepanda Před 12 lety +5

    I have no idea about Dorothy's state of sobriety... she had her well documented battles with that. But people who are "drunk" don't start a sentence completely clearly, then suddenly slur a few words, and go back to normal. I know it sounds bizarre, but YOU try making a speech whilst trying to HOLD IN a sneeze and see what it sounds like.

  • @stavinchain
    @stavinchain Před 11 lety +10

    Oh, yes...it was live, week after week...and the highlight of my week was my parents letting me stay up late on Sunday nights to watch it. I had a crush on Dorothy Kilgallen almost as big as the one I had on Carol Burnett...

    • @ganjaman407
      @ganjaman407 Před 4 lety +4

      Ewww neither one of those women were attractive. Dorothy was ok, but Arlene Francis was the hot one

    • @ChrisHansonCanada
      @ChrisHansonCanada Před 3 lety +3

      A crush on a woman with no chin? How odd.

    • @waitwhat6882
      @waitwhat6882 Před 2 lety

      @@ganjaman407 Arlene Francis? Yes if you like the grandmother look.

    • @aileen694
      @aileen694 Před rokem +4

      @@ganjaman407 Hey! We each have our own interpretation of "attractive" and "beauty"!

    • @aileen694
      @aileen694 Před rokem

      @@ChrisHansonCanada Well hey, do you happen to own a perfect visage? Suppose someone was grossed out by your odd earlobes? Or....

  • @sunsetswest
    @sunsetswest Před 15 lety +2

    Thank you posting these clips. I'd read about two of them over the years. However, it's very unsettling to watch these moments...

  • @ChadQuick270W
    @ChadQuick270W Před 12 lety +8

    Gotta love live television where anything can happen ;)

  • @YellowDogTV
    @YellowDogTV Před 15 lety +3

    Thank you for posting these clips! I'd read about some of them and am glad to watch them!

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 12 lety +6

    Henry Morgan was a very funny man who functioned basically as The Dorothy Kilgallen of "I've Got a Secret." He displayed his rather caustic style on radio for years, notably his own program and on Monitor.
    After this particular social faux pau, the producers of WML still liked him well enough to hire him for syndicated WML on a regular basis -- though never on the same panel as Bennett Cerf.

  • @tomowens8340
    @tomowens8340 Před 11 lety +5

    Just curious because of her link to JFK. If it happened prior to the assassination, it really has no connection. The rumor goes that she was silenced after her private interview with Ruby and her mistake of announcing that she had a story that would break open the case. She was found dead shortly thereafter.

  • @ClarasBeau
    @ClarasBeau Před 12 lety +16

    Henry Morgan apparently thought he was being funny. Cerf's response really put him in his place, and in front of the whole country, too! Interesting to note here how you can actually nail someone without confrontation, if you're clever enough... and especially if they have it coming!

  • @catholicpriest1
    @catholicpriest1 Před 12 lety +2

    I was in this theater in 2009 to see the one woman play "Wishful Drinking" with Carrie Fisher. It is now called Studio 54. When "What's My Line?" was produced in this theater it was called CBS Studio 52...right next door to CBS Studio 50 (otherwise known as The Ed Sullivan Theater).

  • @bigred997
    @bigred997 Před 14 lety +3

    Henry Morgan was known for not getting along with anyone and having a higher opinion of himself than most people did.
    He thought of himself as more literate than both Fred Allen and James Thurber.

  • @lolarites1
    @lolarites1 Před 12 lety +2

    Dorothy, who couldn't stand Henry Morgan once said to him "what is that jacket made of mattress ticking?" and he said, "you ought to know, aren't you an expert on mattresses?"

  • @nancyclaire65
    @nancyclaire65 Před 9 lety +9

    Dorothy was stifling a sneeze that's all..

  • @44032
    @44032 Před 14 lety +8

    First viewing, knowing her history, I thought at the elast something was very wrong. Second viewing, I agree, it's just a sneeze.
    Daly was ready to walk over and slap Morgan in the face but fortunately restrained himself and just completed the story. He was MAD.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety

      Steven Chappell Yes Daly finished the boring story. probably thought that Cerf would publish his book someday. maybe he did.

    • @44032
      @44032 Před 4 lety

      @@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Nice to hear form you, Henry, after all these years...

  • @cpm082852
    @cpm082852 Před 12 lety +4

    Her last "Whats my Line" episode was 11-07-1965. Joey heatherton was the mystery guest.

  • @sonic8005
    @sonic8005 Před 13 lety +4

    The Dorothy one is the only one that gets any mentionings sadly.
    Why does nobody mention how freaking WEIRD it is that the guy just randomly walks up and decides "I would like to talk about my dating service!"
    Umm... what the fuck was that? That's actually the strangest one from this. I'm sorry but that is.

    • @JB-wh3we
      @JB-wh3we Před 9 měsíci

      Lol maybe she's a regular panelist and he's some dude who randomly barged on the stage. There's a different expectation level for crazy rando and "the talent"

  • @slayer4427
    @slayer4427 Před 11 lety +6

    i never realized bfore but in disneys 101 dalmations, the cartoon one, this is the show jasper and horace are watching :D

  • @alanwatts1276
    @alanwatts1276 Před 13 lety +5

    "Bleed Purple," "laxjetbear" and "Chill out SessionZ" are all remiss because none of them describes how Kilgallen behaves during the remaining 25 minutes of that episode. She recovers quickly from her meltdown. You Tube doesn't have the segment with a contestant wearing a fancy dress who is a bronco buster and steer wrestler. If you ever watch it you will hear Dorothy say clearly to John, "Arlene just wanted to know if that was misleading." She was referring to the contestant's glamor.

  • @laxjetbear
    @laxjetbear Před 14 lety +6

    Am I the only one who has seen this that sees and hears Ms Kilgallen sneeze??? She starts out perfectly well and then, obviously, is about to sneeze--and does! She is clearly not drunk. Have some respect for the woman.
    As for Henry Morgan, I find it quite funny, if grotesquely abrupt. But then that is what Henry Morgan's schtick was. It was the part he played his entire career.

    • @MovieJon
      @MovieJon Před 6 lety

      If Bennett had chuckled along, but finished the story (which didn't seem to have much left anyway!) it might have diffused everything, but he took such offense at what really just a wisecrack (on a show that wasn't known for very harsh ones.) John finishing (what was, again, not particularly interesting or amusing) just added to the bizarre quality of the moment.

    • @intercommerce
      @intercommerce Před 6 lety +1

      Fake sneeze

    • @johndalton3180
      @johndalton3180 Před 3 lety

      She had a well know pill and alcohol problem. She had to leave WML? for several months to get it taken care of, in fact. There are some shows circa 1961 or so when she can barely speak.

    • @Samantha_Lee
      @Samantha_Lee Před 2 lety

      @@johndalton3180 people who have addiction issues can also sneeze

  • @alanwatts1276
    @alanwatts1276 Před 11 lety +2

    @Bigwave2003 -- Not until after Dorothy died did anyone say she mixed alcohol with sleeping pills. When she was alive, some of her newspaper colleagues drank with her, and they noticed she sometimes drank to excess, but that was the extent of it.
    After Dorothy died she couldn't defend herself. Her widower Richard Kollmar chose not to defend her at that time. We don't know why he kept quiet until he himself died in January 1971.

  • @TheKristobald
    @TheKristobald Před 11 lety +17

    Very well said ! :) To me John Daly is the model of a perfect Tv host.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety +2

      TheKristobald Oh the good old days when straight men could make misogynistic comments with impunity all day long

    • @aileen694
      @aileen694 Před rokem

      Yes, Daley was excellent in many ways but definitely very verbose and not always funny about it!

  • @StooGP
    @StooGP  Před 15 lety +13

    Actually, he said, I'm here to talk about a dating service (!) All the cretin did was try to get on the air to promote his schlubby dating service!

  • @juliejohnson7394
    @juliejohnson7394 Před 8 lety +47

    I suspect Dorothy had a mini-stroke rather than being intoxicated.

    • @juliejohnson7394
      @juliejohnson7394 Před 8 lety +7

      well, that was my first impression. after watching it several times, I now think she was simply holding back a sneeze. I know she died of an interaction of alcohol and meds (whether it was a murder conspiracy because of knowledge she had of JFK'S assassination, is another totally different topic).

    • @gameshowfreak2007
      @gameshowfreak2007 Před 7 lety +3

      longshot, any possibility she was having a migraine? sometimes it can screw up your speech.

    • @nomdeplume2213
      @nomdeplume2213 Před 6 lety +1

      I think shes sick, i habe horrible allergies and will get this weird tickle in tjroat that makes it squeeze together and kinda burn? Know what im talking about?? Lol

    • @jamesgivens6127
      @jamesgivens6127 Před 5 lety +1

      I also thought it might be a mini stroke. But I also have trouble talking after lengthy speeches and have to have some kind of cough drop or mint to be able to continue.

    • @nolancain8792
      @nolancain8792 Před 5 lety

      James Givens migraines can make someone act like that. I recently had one and it baffled me as I could barely see as well as everything go numb and barely speak without forcing it. That’s only at 19, she was in her 50’s.

  • @EDH1712
    @EDH1712 Před 15 lety +8

    I can't even watch the clip between Bennett Cerf and Henry Morgan. It's such an uncomfortable exchange.
    I don't think Daly was someone to screw around with by the looks he was giving Morgan.

  • @Philacav
    @Philacav Před 12 lety +7

    Say what one will about Cerf's reputation...I get such a kick and a laugh out of Cerf laughing like hell after Daly finally finishes the story; I also crack up when Daly winks after that. I feel like something happened backstage before the show between Morgan and Daly, or Cerf made a crack and Morgan, or something. I just can't imagine Morgan decided to go gonzo on Cerf out of the blue. Finally...if ever someone finds tape of what happened after that show, post it. LOL

  • @aluragranddad
    @aluragranddad Před 12 lety +5

    Henry Morgan seemed to be a a pompous, arrogant jerk. I felt bad for Bennett Cerf, who probably wanted to punch Morgan in the nose. John Daly didn't look too pleased either.

  • @maxreger100
    @maxreger100 Před 13 lety +15

    Cerf, although articulate, hard working and well educated was a snob. (I just finished reading his autobiography "At Random").
    I think Henry Morgan was spot on. Cerf thought much too highly of himself and his wittiness. But he WAS an important part of the panel and its overall chemistry.

  • @blessedones1589
    @blessedones1589 Před 6 lety +42

    A mini stroke I also believe, loss of voice, movement of her mouth.

    • @ArsPraestigium
      @ArsPraestigium Před 5 lety +12

      She would not have immediately recovered from a CVA (stroke) as she quickly did. There are small variety of neurological phenomena, all unrelated to strokes, that can contribute to temporary inarticulation. Ms. Kilgallen, it appears, genuinely was just attempting to stifle a sneeze.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety +1

      Guess what I don’t care what you believe you’re delusional or craving for attention

  • @HunterShows
    @HunterShows Před 5 lety +1

    "Not again! Gil, get the relieving unit in, code 2! Random guy on set."

  • @alanwatts1276
    @alanwatts1276 Před 11 lety +2

    @streetpilot123 -- Not quite. Hairdresser Marc Sinclaire found her dead approximately ten hours after the live broadcast ended. She had been dead for several hours. Medical examiner James Luke said publicly she had died between 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m.
    Sinclaire was videorecorded making his statement. The New York Post reported Dr. Luke's statement a week later -- his statement about the time of death.

  • @xxcharmed1xx
    @xxcharmed1xx Před 14 lety +2

    that was so rude to cut off bennett like that!.. that guy should have not been on the panel he was nothing but rude! and when i heard dorothy speak i surely thought she was intoxicated until i read a comment below saying she was trying to keep from sneezing, i dont know?

  • @laxjetbear
    @laxjetbear Před 13 lety +4

    @xXxXBleedPurpleXxXx ...neither of us was there, yet you know it WASN'T a sneeze??? If you watched the entire episode, you would see that she doesn't slur anywhere else. She doesn't slur before or after this. Besides, if you actually paid attention, instead of deciding that she was a drunk, you can HEAR her sneeze.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 15 lety +2

    I show my students the first clip as illustration of jargon. Notice that Daly uses two prearranged code phrases
    one meaning someone come up on stage to get this guy off the stage
    and the other meaning we have an emergency turn off the mikes and lock the cameras into a neutral position. And that's what they do

  • @gregrider8154
    @gregrider8154 Před 4 lety +1

    That sounded like a sneeze from Dorothy. The sneezes that slowly build while to talk, begin to slowly choke off your speech to make you sound drunk.

    • @JB-wh3we
      @JB-wh3we Před 9 měsíci

      Yep, I've heard a bad sneeze will confuse a coroner enough to mistake an overdose

  • @dannettedavis5836
    @dannettedavis5836 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I know I don’t slur my speech when I’m about to sneeze.

  • @ameroux
    @ameroux Před 14 lety +3

    My first thought was that she was having a stroke, but a sneeze can make it look that way.

  • @bingbongstar
    @bingbongstar Před 9 lety +30

    Dorothy was not having a mini stroke....she was stifling a sneeze. You can see her wiggling her nose and then you hear her sneeze as Bennett walks on.

    • @coffeehigh420
      @coffeehigh420 Před 9 lety +5

      yes and then after that, they killed her. no big deal.

    • @iamintheburg
      @iamintheburg Před 9 lety +2

      coffeehigh420 You must be high, 420 ....... we all know that the FBI got Dorothy, 'cause she'd talked to Jack Ruby. Goodson and Todman and Arlene and John Charles Daly were well-alibi'ed, but I, personally, am not so sure about that sly Bennett - was he REALLY back to Mt. Kisco ??

    • @coffeehigh420
      @coffeehigh420 Před 9 lety

      oh stop it

    • @iamintheburg
      @iamintheburg Před 9 lety +1

      coffeehigh420 Okay, I'm done; I got a reaction ......that's all I'm after. G'nite. ( but does anyone harbor any doubts about Mr. Cerf ?? )

    • @coffeehigh420
      @coffeehigh420 Před 9 lety

      ...well i aught to

  • @WintersWar
    @WintersWar Před 9 lety +18

    The relieving unit...man was he pompous. Johnny olsen is the bouncer haha

    • @nowvoyagerNE
      @nowvoyagerNE Před 9 lety +5

      yes he could be very pompous!!!! why would john use one or two words when he could use 50? LOL

    • @artytoons
      @artytoons Před 6 lety +3

      1:07 Announcer-Bouncer Johnny O.

  • @UDIETHATWAY
    @UDIETHATWAY Před 14 lety +4

    I noticed that too...they barely put the camera on Dorothy for the rest of the evening. Right after she shakes hands with the four men from the play including Dudley Moore and Peter Cook, you can see that she is trying to straighten her collar and having some trouble. Poor Dorothy...I originally thought it was a sneeze coming on, but I can see now that she was on something - the rest of the panel didn't even seem surprised or worried at her intro; they barely flinched.

  • @2014moorea
    @2014moorea Před 11 lety +10

    Henry Morgan was very rude and I hope he was ashamed about his behavior. Keep your thoughts to yourself and let Bennett finish. John handled it very well and was a great television host.

    • @filmnobelpreis
      @filmnobelpreis Před 4 lety +2

      Groucho made the same joke a couple of weeks earlier and nobody was pissed...

    • @jeffreygranger6913
      @jeffreygranger6913 Před 4 lety

      @@filmnobelpreis Well, Groucho had class.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety

      filmnobelpreis Groucho was not gay that’s the difference

    • @jeffreygranger6913
      @jeffreygranger6913 Před 4 lety

      @@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath I hope his wife didn't find out he was gay.
      Not that it matters.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety

      Jeffrey Granger That's called a "beard". Nick Adams had a wife while he slept with Elvis. Back then most people in show business had a beard even rock Hudson married a beard. The only one who didn't was Cary Grant. He lived with his boyfriend

  • @Marckymarc71
    @Marckymarc71 Před 15 lety +1

    Dorothy obviously was NOT under the influence here. People who are drunk do not speak perfectly normally, then suddenly start massively slurring their words for three seconds, and then suddenly return to perfect clarity.
    She was simply trying not to sneeze while reciting her intro.

    • @JB-wh3we
      @JB-wh3we Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah. I'd buy it if like the autopsy a year later didn't line up perfectly with what looks like 'ludes and liquor

  • @cosycleaner
    @cosycleaner Před 12 lety +1

    I'd need booze and tranquilizers to cope with introducing Bennett Cerf too.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 11 lety +3

    the thing with Dorothy's appearance that night -- after she melted down in the introduction, she did OK whenever she appeared the rest of the broadcast. It is true that the directors kept her off camera as much as possible.

  • @toddwacha5108
    @toddwacha5108 Před 4 lety +2

    That was rude of Henry Morgan to interrupt Bennett Cerf like that! Henry might still have been miffed that the show that he was on, I've Got A Secret, was cancelled and was just being his irascible self. Even John Daly was ticked off at Henry, and I don't blame Bennett and John for taking issue with Henry.

  • @johnsmisek02
    @johnsmisek02 Před 11 lety +7

    It looked like Dorothy was having a stroke!!!!

  • @alabhaois
    @alabhaois Před 10 lety +6

    God-- DK looks so thin-- there were some strange goings-on during the last part of her life, well-chronicled in a book Lee Israel wrote about her.

  • @UDIETHATWAY
    @UDIETHATWAY Před 14 lety +1

    Dorothy was having a very bad time with a sneeze coming on....you can tell it was nothing more because she regains her voice at the end when Bennett comes out and she throws her arms out. At first it does look like she's having a stroke.

    • @JB-wh3we
      @JB-wh3we Před 9 měsíci

      Yep, and my nose bleeds are just from the dry air!

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 15 lety +1

    Apparently the director was angry at Henry Morgan: the camera focuses in on his discomfort. Morgan's bad manners happened in the months leading up to the end of Sunday WML. Guest panelists probably felt they had nothing to lose in exhibiting rudeness to Bennett. In the same period, when Gypsy Rose Lee appeared as a guest, she dissed Bennett in her introduction. Morgan came back to syndicated WML in episodes that did not have Bennett, but the producers never brought back Gypsy at all.

  • @maynardsmoreland
    @maynardsmoreland Před 10 lety +14

    I wonder if the "bad mannered" intruder did that to pay off a bet of some kind.

    • @georgeplagianos6487
      @georgeplagianos6487 Před 8 lety +2

      you mean it might have been a dare by somebody

    • @maynardsmoreland
      @maynardsmoreland Před 7 lety +2

      Yes.

    • @jimlange944
      @jimlange944 Před 7 lety +1

      According to Gil Fates' VERY good book about WML? The gentleman went into the wrong studio to do a commercial.

  • @fredmillsaps5268
    @fredmillsaps5268 Před 10 lety +29

    Morgan was very Rude.

    • @anthonycevallos9247
      @anthonycevallos9247 Před 10 lety +6

      I'm sure he's dead by now and won't be rude to anyone anymore.

    • @coffeehigh420
      @coffeehigh420 Před 9 lety +2

      Anthony Cevallos lol

    • @LenHummelChannel
      @LenHummelChannel Před 9 lety +5

      Fred Millsaps Henry had a way of "losing it" when he was in that kind of mood. he probably thought it would be funny in a strange sort of way, but it only came off as obnoxious and rude, as you said.

  • @catholicpriest1
    @catholicpriest1 Před 12 lety +6

    @Sept11Discovery They wouldn't have let her on stage if she was drunk.

    • @travis7310
      @travis7310 Před 6 lety +2

      Bob Sewvello They let Judy Garland when she was the mystery guest. She was noticeably drunk and most likely on sleeping pills or some other downer.

  • @UDIETHATWAY
    @UDIETHATWAY Před 14 lety +4

    How rude to cut Bennett off while he was talking - Daly put him in his place when he came out and finished the story.

    • @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
      @GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Před 4 lety

      UDIETHATWAY It’s not the bennett Cerf show. He’s not even the moderator. He’s just a ham. Apparently he wasn’t admitted him and told

  • @kraneiathedancingdryad6333

    thanks for explaining these, I wondered what the first one was.

  • @charleswillsonpeale5739
    @charleswillsonpeale5739 Před 8 lety +23

    "And on my left, a very charming gentleman who has come up from the south, and is about to go back to Ft. Lhwaaderdale and Mihiammi to lecturs to profreshr"....

  • @davidjames666
    @davidjames666 Před 8 lety +5

    What did henry say at the end? He asked himself a question out loud, and it ended with a firm "no"

  • @simplekeepitsimple
    @simplekeepitsimple Před 12 lety +2

    you missed the one where the guy runs across the stage and says "I made it for mothers day"

  • @TopperMadeline
    @TopperMadeline Před 11 lety +5

    I'm on the 'Henry was being inconsiderate' site of this issue. I think that was unprofessional of him to interrupt Bennett like that.
    As for Dorothy, she may have been stifling a sneeze, but slurring your words isn't a symptom of that.

  • @MattisSoderstorm
    @MattisSoderstorm Před 12 lety +1

    Nothing will beat the guy that ran in there and shook Milton Berle hand and said "I MADE IT, FOR MOTHERS DAY."

  • @highonimmi
    @highonimmi Před 9 lety +36

    if Dorothy was stifling a sneeze she would have stayed there...she either had a silent stroke/mini stroke or was having a pre-migraine symptom. I say mini stroke. as ever the professional she tried to hide her problem. anyone who has ever snuffled a sneeze knows that ain't how it's done.

    • @fernmann7
      @fernmann7 Před 8 lety +3

      +highonimmi Huh? Everyone knows she took pills and booze. She looked and sounded wasted.

    • @highonimmi
      @highonimmi Před 8 lety +7

      fernmann7 she was walking fine....if you don't understand what can happen during a migraine do some research....

    • @kurtl8350
      @kurtl8350 Před 7 lety +3

      I agree highonimmi. There have been others that had the same symtoms recently that were caught on camera and were later diagnosed as suffering a stroke.

    • @michaelburke750
      @michaelburke750 Před 5 lety +3

      She suffered a minor stroke, I recognize them from strokes my mother suffered.

    • @candicehoneycutt4318
      @candicehoneycutt4318 Před 5 lety +1

      Michael Burke If you listen, she actually said the word 'sneeze' before excusing herself.

  • @95gtscort
    @95gtscort Před 11 lety +1

    That reporter had a serious migraine headache not a stroke. That's the first thing this clip reminded me of though.

  • @aldiboronti
    @aldiboronti Před 12 lety +1

    They cut the sound on purpose while he was on. Nothing in particular happened, he was just someone who barged on to the set and they quickly removed him before he could say what he wanted to say.

  • @HAMRADIO1981
    @HAMRADIO1981 Před 5 lety +3

    Watch Buddy look at Arlene after Dorothy has her brain lockout moment.

  • @alcoholic2412
    @alcoholic2412 Před 3 lety

    Wow. Thanks for posting

  • @hifithepanda
    @hifithepanda Před 12 lety +1

    You can hear him (faintly) mention something about a "Dating service" that he's trying to promote.

  • @TheJetfighter666
    @TheJetfighter666 Před 14 lety +3

    @Useless2112 She had to sneeze and was holding it back because she was on the air.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 11 lety

    the Dorothy Kilgallen sneezing episode happened in October 1962 and is available in its entirety somewhere in YouTubia.

  • @RickMHobson
    @RickMHobson Před 11 lety +4

    WOW! Look up "Merlina Mercouri" in wikipedia! What a full life!

  • @phil123711
    @phil123711 Před 13 lety +1

    Her drink was spiced before the show. She was murdered not long after.

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq Před 9 lety +9

    I think the signs here are clear, even if they weren't 50-60 years ago. She had a stroke of some sort. There's no arguing that point. Though John Daly might suggest, so as not to lead the listener on, that this does not exclude the possibility that there might be some alternative reason to explain this phenomenon.

    • @outdoorfamilylifenew9396
      @outdoorfamilylifenew9396 Před 7 lety

      Qermaq intoxicated

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety +1

      So she had a stroke. Right there. And then was fine? I can't believe people are suggesting that.

    • @blackmore4
      @blackmore4 Před 6 lety +2

      _"There's no arguing that point"_
      Of course there is. She wasn't having a stroke, she was trying to speak through a sneeze.

    • @meredumais4934
      @meredumais4934 Před 6 lety +1

      blackmore4 People don't slur words like that when stifling sneezes. After she speaks clearly, watch her look up to her right as she appears to become confused / unsure of what she's supposed to say next. I've seen my cousin as well as my mother have mini-strokes (transient ischemic attacks); they are alarmingly abrupt, only last a few seconds, and look/sound just like this. And they often portend imminent larger strokes, as in my mother's case. That's what I *believe* she experienced here...I don't claim to know with absolute certainty, however. Just an opinion based on medical knowledge and personal experiences.

    • @davidfitzgerald4683
      @davidfitzgerald4683 Před 6 lety

      moron

  • @jph0917
    @jph0917 Před 15 lety +1

    Any one with a brain can see that poor Dorothy was trying not to sneeze. You can hear it right before she clearly says Bennett's name.

  • @clairespottedhorse1972
    @clairespottedhorse1972 Před 11 lety +3

    Her voice, as she begins to speak seems a tad lower than normal, but perfectly clear until that moment. She could have suffered a small stroke. Her speech, as she trails off, seems to match that of someone who has had a stroke.

  • @TeamRonMione133
    @TeamRonMione133 Před 8 lety +4

    When Dorothy sneezes (or whatever she does), what episode is that from?

  • @ruthiemay423
    @ruthiemay423 Před 2 lety +2

    I never considered Henry Morgan the least bit humorous. On this show he was regularly rude and obnoxious.

  • @StooGP
    @StooGP  Před 14 lety +4

    @henrygrove100 I think he says something to the effect of "Does he know how to tell a story funny, no..." not those words exactly, but I think that's the idea...