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The only good thing I see about the decolonization path is the amount of PP and manpower you get with every focus. It can be used on the unions and martial law decisions too
So I did a test playthrough and if you go Trade Unions and do almost 80% of the Decolonization path you'll get even more PP in comparison of not doing any focus for that time. If you time it right, you can actually retain all dominions (even India) after turning communist. Then it's just a matter of building up towards war with the Axis and the US
I'm amazed he didn't pay any notice to the other civil war side being called 'True Union of Britain' despite the fact 99% of players have never seen that before
@@honeybadger6275 imagine talking shit to someone because the way they play the game, and i speak as someone who dosnt use ironman mode cause i save often and autosaves kek me most the time
You could do the Czechoslovakian focus where you give up land to Germany and become their puppet, then painstakingly become free, and do the OTHER Czechoslovakian focus which makes you a puppet again
Man I know this isn't a special occasion for it but thank you for all the videos all these years. Everything has changed so much but it is still nice to occasionally watch my favorite kinder surprise egg tuber (and the hearts of iron as well - more calming than ASMR!)
Ah, I remember that civil war. Oswald and the lads got a bit too drunk on a pub crawl one night and it ended up spiraling into a global war. What a lad.
@@D_B_N_Bass what the actual fuck is the Dutch language. I've seen Dutch words float around for years but none have been as insane as "Koninkrijk". Verenigd is obvious as it's basically Verenigte but simplified but Koninkrijk is just strange. The first half is obviously derivative from König but the last half, which would be Reich in German got lost through the ages to the point where it does look legitimately like a goblin word.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 middle dutch and middle german are actually not to far apart. the ancient german languages only started drifting much more heavily since the 1500ish. up untill like 1200/1300 most people from parts of germany and the netherlands would have most likely been able to understand what people were saying to each other. if not get most of the words. A little bit how a lot of romance languages share ALOT of words.
You can actually form the Imperial Federation. You go down only first two focuses in Communist tree, not anymore, then you rush down the Imperial Federation, after that you do rest of your Communist focuses and a civil war kicks off, for me its always in Canada so its hilariously easy to deal with. Now you got Commonwealth of MAN.
everyone asks "How get Huey Long" but nobody asks "How is Huey Long doing?" And even worse, nobody gives credit to his brothers: Huey Short and Huey Wide
3:19 I'd think "HMS Glowworm" is more worth attention... Also, ISorrow does a Communist Britain playthrough a few days after Alex The Rambler does, coincidence?
The story of HMS Glowworm is actually pretty badass. In short she engaged the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper alone during the invasion of Norway. Ultimately she was sunk after ramming the Hipper and shearing off a large portion of her belt armour, leaving her out of action for a fair while. Glowworm's captain was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross after the Hipper's Captain wrote to the British Admiralty, recommending the award for the gallantry he displayed.
Honestly tho this was one of my favorite videos from you just for the pure chaos. More dumb focuses please. Like play US and rush fascism without any of the supporting focuses so you start with like no troops in the civil war.
It would be really neat if paradox added a secret Alt-History path for Britain or the USA that allowed them to go down the route of forming Oceania from 1984 with IngSoc in charge.
When MtG first came out, I went down the communist path, but I left Edward VIII in charge. So, I had a fallen government, which gave -50% daily political power, while needing political power to do the decisions to go communist. I then went communist, which got rid of the fallen government, and ousted the royal family, but I still had the Edward VIII national spirit. I then quit that game.
I once did the Imperial Federation and went communist. I owned over half the world including America and most of Russia. But you still have a very arbitrary time limit before a civil war goes off.
Idk, personally I think the communist british tree is overlooked. While you loose alot of shit you strengthen the home isles with the PP and union decisions. Decisions I personally only use one of, getting a free military factory. So long as you play your cards right you can have a super strong war economy coupled with all of the new manpower you got. Its a fun challenge and a focus I don’t think deserves as much derision.
Id love to see you check out The Grand Combination mod for Victoria. It's all the goodness of HPM and HFM in one bundle. Also you can torture yourself with a Neutral Moresnet run
You can capture the dominions using a focus if you have enough troops stationed in the right areas. It's a bit of a pain and you need to look up all the places you need to have troops prior to firing the focus otherwise they will break free before you can impose martial law and turn them
Honestly, I kind of like the idea behind the UK communist path but it just feels... weird. Like, why is the option to attack the USSR placed before the option to attack Germany? Why can you only get the focus to invade America if you team up with Stalin when it's easier to do when you don't ally? It just seems needlessly complicated.
to be fair, communists love to fight over each over, more than fighting other ideologies even. So in that way it makes sense. The bigger issue is the fact that decolonization is just a complete waste as a tree due to the lag it causes. And the fact that rather than independent states, it would had led UK communists taking a "Stalin and the Soviet states" route where they are independent only in name much like Ukraine was an "independent soviet republic" in USSR.
@@melfice999 I might make sense if you actually had some practical way to invade the USSR after decolonizing. As is, you basically have to go through Germany before you can properly invade the USSR. I honestly don't have too much of a issue with decolonization besides the lag since most of the Empire is a giant hassle and if I go communist I prefer to focus on Europe anyway. The lag is still very annoying though.
@@themilo1567 i think if there were some options to help the newly freed colonies after decolonisation, which would draw them into your faction while boosting their military, it would make the decolonisation kinda worth it by letting all these countries mob the fascists and capitalists and be effective at it.
Some government guy: "Mr. President why have you not decolonized our empire yet?? The people will revolt!" President: "Oh it's so the game will run faster" The guy: "???"
I have a cool idea! Play Democratic Bulgaria, form the Balkan Confederation, and then flip to Non Aligned, and bring Tsar Ferdinand back with move Palpatine would be proud of!
One thing I noticed is that if you integrate everything into a world commonwealth, decolonization is not required for the communist tree, though you gotta be careful.
Isorrow : No ones ever done this sh*t, why would anyone ever pick this path? *me sitting here with 100% HOI4 and doing this way back when man the guns hit for the achievement tied to it*
Had a game were the axis ignored the exact same spot as in the video and the soviets declared war on finland or romania I think. Of course they got instantly eaten by the japanese just to be released and do it again :D
Notice how he's doing this path after Alex did it. Always knew he's the number 1 Alex the rambler fan
I immediately knew it was the communist path because of the Alex video. This also proves that Alex is the absolute MVP of Hoi4
@She Hulk its a Comedy well played
Alex and ISP are the same person though
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Is this Alex's burner account?
2:35 "I only support Imperialism because my computer can't handle Decolonization" Literally me.
🤝
*can't
I got you bro
The only acceptable colonialism
@@kzr_1613the British be like: “I only support imperalism because my bank account can’t handle Decolonization”
France: Literally me
You know ISP has gone insane when he says "testicles" during the intro
I hope you recover from A2Z
I dunno. I think that is him being sane.
No he lost his mind way back
E
The only good thing I see about the decolonization path is the amount of PP and manpower you get with every focus. It can be used on the unions and martial law decisions too
I love that!
UK: The white man is bad, we're decolonising!
Dominions: Yipp-
UK: No, not you!
No, not you India, you are making too much tea to let you go
@@azh698 I mean most of the Dominions are majority white anyway except for South Africa
So I did a test playthrough and if you go Trade Unions and do almost 80% of the Decolonization path you'll get even more PP in comparison of not doing any focus for that time. If you time it right, you can actually retain all dominions (even India) after turning communist. Then it's just a matter of building up towards war with the Axis and the US
@@elbeto191291 how do you keep your colonies while being communist?
I'm amazed he didn't pay any notice to the other civil war side being called 'True Union of Britain' despite the fact 99% of players have never seen that before
@@smeggiamagarwine k
@@smeggiamagarwine Imagine playing a video game to go for achievements.
also non-historical mode ai
@@honeybadger6275 imagine talking shit to someone because the way they play the game, and i speak as someone who dosnt use ironman mode cause i save often and autosaves kek me most the time
@@honeybadger6275 imagine being toxic in a fun map game youtube channel
You could do the Czechoslovakian focus where you give up land to Germany and become their puppet, then painstakingly become free, and do the OTHER Czechoslovakian focus which makes you a puppet again
Best path in the game
i... why
Isn't that just a focus path for the AI? Like most of these weird paths.
Gotta love them Czechs giving a free core to the Kaiser.
Man I know this isn't a special occasion for it but thank you for all the videos all these years. Everything has changed so much but it is still nice to occasionally watch my favorite kinder surprise egg tuber (and the hearts of iron as well - more calming than ASMR!)
I like this comment, this is a good comment
I concur, I love isorrow
I too want to tickle the balls for all the free and good content
This is why youtube comments exist
This man speak the truth
I wish for a fight between Bo and ISP in a tub of mud in an alley behind a liquor store...that would make my day...
Chad ISP would totally beat Femkoen
@@yahnmahn9035 my eye my eye my eye
I think instead of the communist path in brittain there should be a huey long path. That would make it better.
Don't even mention hong luey
@@donovantownshend8783 But what about the Lung Hoey path?
Who’s the British version of Huey Long, I wonder…….
Huey Long dong silver?
If ISP wasn’t already insane from A2Z then I don’t know how much worse will be playing a Huey Long path
Ah, I remember that civil war. Oswald and the lads got a bit too drunk on a pub crawl one night and it ended up spiraling into a global war. What a lad.
As a Dutch person I can confirm that that is actually how we say United Kingdom
Yes, but in our silly little goblin language we write it as "Verenigd Koninkrijk"
as a dutch speaking belgian I can also confirm this
@@D_B_N_Bass what the actual fuck is the Dutch language. I've seen Dutch words float around for years but none have been as insane as "Koninkrijk". Verenigd is obvious as it's basically Verenigte but simplified but Koninkrijk is just strange. The first half is obviously derivative from König but the last half, which would be Reich in German got lost through the ages to the point where it does look legitimately like a goblin word.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 middle dutch and middle german are actually not to far apart. the ancient german languages only started drifting much more heavily since the 1500ish. up untill like 1200/1300 most people from parts of germany and the netherlands would have most likely been able to understand what people were saying to each other. if not get most of the words. A little bit how a lot of romance languages share ALOT of words.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 it's strange rules in germanic languages, just as english with all those strange rules
You can actually form the Imperial Federation.
You go down only first two focuses in Communist tree, not anymore, then you rush down the Imperial Federation, after that you do rest of your Communist focuses and a civil war kicks off, for me its always in Canada so its hilariously easy to deal with.
Now you got Commonwealth of MAN.
As a canadian person, I can confirm this is how dutch people pronounce "united kingdom"
As a dutch person, I can confirm that canadians can confirm this.
@Dave van der Meulen shut up and go change your flag to the one with orange on it. It looks better
As a British person I think I should just take back Canada.
“Testicles” the best opening line
@Anjai Mabar OMG is that a TNO refrence????
Imagine having a civil war, and it turns into a world war.
Great vid, hasn’t seen it yet but decided to comment
same
Sad Neville Chamberlain is the most fucking heartbreaking thing I've ever seen... I'm shook
everyone asks "How get Huey Long" but nobody asks "How is Huey Long doing?"
And even worse, nobody gives credit to his brothers: Huey Short and Huey Wide
No, his brother’s names are Dewey Bong and Buoy Dong.
Huey Thicc
And then there’s Huey Lewis…And the News!!!
thats the only path you didn't do in the "paths that nobody goes" i guess
I love how in the end France somewhat owns the land that England held during the 100 years war and vice versa.
3:19 I'd think "HMS Glowworm" is more worth attention...
Also, ISorrow does a Communist Britain playthrough a few days after Alex The Rambler does, coincidence?
The story of HMS Glowworm is actually pretty badass. In short she engaged the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper alone during the invasion of Norway. Ultimately she was sunk after ramming the Hipper and shearing off a large portion of her belt armour, leaving her out of action for a fair while.
Glowworm's captain was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross after the Hipper's Captain wrote to the British Admiralty, recommending the award for the gallantry he displayed.
Honestly tho this was one of my favorite videos from you just for the pure chaos. More dumb focuses please. Like play US and rush fascism without any of the supporting focuses so you start with like no troops in the civil war.
Another HOI4 video. Its going to be another 3 years before I catch up on clips
ok
Sometimes I wonder if Paradox just creates these tree routes for the chaos they present.
I always knew ISorrowproductions loved to gargle balls, glad he finally came out in the open with it in this video
Glad to hear the possibility of Victoria 2 content. Been a while since an "Offical" Victoria 2 video (Boekoen doesn't count.)
It would be really neat if paradox added a secret Alt-History path for Britain or the USA that allowed them to go down the route of forming Oceania from 1984 with IngSoc in charge.
A dutch guy commiting crimes in a ww2 game simulator
Think of the upside: at least now Slough is gone.
There is a Czech focus that just lets you surrender
Suggestion: Play as tsarist Russia but request for imperial aid making you a puppet and then go fascist
I think he did that one already
@@PaxJurassicus do you have the link?
@@sleepyheadsailor1090 No, I don’t, because apparently I was wrong and ISP’s only played the Czarist path.
When the lack of decolonization leads to a British Germany whose capital is LUXEMBOURG
When MtG first came out, I went down the communist path, but I left Edward VIII in charge. So, I had a fallen government, which gave -50% daily political power, while needing political power to do the decisions to go communist. I then went communist, which got rid of the fallen government, and ousted the royal family, but I still had the Edward VIII national spirit. I then quit that game.
How did you go communist? If you pick concessions to the trade unions Edward abdicates automatically.
Not to mention that "fallen government" is only for the democratic party, if you switched to communist you would have gotten Pollit in government.
I once did the Imperial Federation and went communist. I owned over half the world including America and most of Russia. But you still have a very arbitrary time limit before a civil war goes off.
ive watched all your vicky videos 3 times or more already i think. i am so so excited for more vicky!!!!!
Idk, personally I think the communist british tree is overlooked. While you loose alot of shit you strengthen the home isles with the PP and union decisions. Decisions I personally only use one of, getting a free military factory. So long as you play your cards right you can have a super strong war economy coupled with all of the new manpower you got. Its a fun challenge and a focus I don’t think deserves as much derision.
Id love to see you check out The Grand Combination mod for Victoria. It's all the goodness of HPM and HFM in one bundle. Also you can torture yourself with a Neutral Moresnet run
You can capture the dominions using a focus if you have enough troops stationed in the right areas. It's a bit of a pain and you need to look up all the places you need to have troops prior to firing the focus otherwise they will break free before you can impose martial law and turn them
Hold up babe new ISorrowProductions video just dropped.
I dont think I ever saw someone, or thought of playing.
Communist, or democratic Hungary.
Or the Czech ''become German puppet'' playthrough.
I think he has done all of those beforehand however.
Honestly, I kind of like the idea behind the UK communist path but it just feels... weird. Like, why is the option to attack the USSR placed before the option to attack Germany? Why can you only get the focus to invade America if you team up with Stalin when it's easier to do when you don't ally? It just seems needlessly complicated.
to be fair, communists love to fight over each over, more than fighting other ideologies even. So in that way it makes sense.
The bigger issue is the fact that decolonization is just a complete waste as a tree due to the lag it causes. And the fact that rather than independent states, it would had led UK communists taking a "Stalin and the Soviet states" route where they are independent only in name much like Ukraine was an "independent soviet republic" in USSR.
@@melfice999 I might make sense if you actually had some practical way to invade the USSR after decolonizing. As is, you basically have to go through Germany before you can properly invade the USSR.
I honestly don't have too much of a issue with decolonization besides the lag since most of the Empire is a giant hassle and if I go communist I prefer to focus on Europe anyway. The lag is still very annoying though.
@@themilo1567 i think if there were some options to help the newly freed colonies after decolonisation, which would draw them into your faction while boosting their military, it would make the decolonisation kinda worth it by letting all these countries mob the fascists and capitalists and be effective at it.
Any way you could try out that mod that adds the rest of asia into CK3?
@beyond your imagination ive got a better link
czcams.com/video/JzzeyO2FOmE/video.html
That was one of the most fun playthroughs you have made. Seriously, thanks.
Margaret thatcher hoi4 path??
Exciting campaign! Roleplaying like that always takes my attention (literally stopped doing what I were doing to watch this one carefully).
I’ve been watching you since 300k subs and I just wanna say I’m proud of you Mr. Sorrow!
*sees thumbnail* THATS GOTTA BE THE BEST FOUCUS TREE EVER
Great video Ale- ISP!
I was wearing you're merch when I saw your new video came out. Love your videos keep up the great work.
It’s always nice to finally get home from the gym and BAM ISP VIDEO to relax and cool off too. Thanks
Can you play Victoria 1? I think that it would be neat to see where it all began.
Democratic King for Hungary. That's one I haven't seen anyone plays
Us in Scotland have a different national dish to England, ours is haggis. And England has two; Chicken tikka masala and Fish and chips
Some government guy: "Mr. President why have you not decolonized our empire yet?? The people will revolt!"
President: "Oh it's so the game will run faster"
The guy: "???"
I like how ISP focuses on HMS Grenade, when there was a HMS Gipsy...
Convoy duty with a caravan
For terrible focus trees, you should try democratic Spain, it's like communist Spain but with even less payoff.
In all honesty, he should do a Global Defense Council run. Shit is agony.
The goblin living in my basement has reached a new level of fame I see.
I didn't believe it was possible to create something worse than WW2. But you actually did it.
March of the eagles A2Z
ISP vs bokoen boxing match I think yes
I've never played hoi4 but still I love watching your gameplay XD
ah yes the 1984
As a British person I can confirm this is how the Dutch say United Kingdom
Methamphetamine
this was a particularly good one!
I guess its *OUR TEA* now.
Malaya is also worth annexing for all that sweet rubber
MP artillery only with Bo, Alex, and Braun at 1mil
This came out an hour before my school was supposed to end…it’s been 3 hours and now I just got on the bus…my bus driver left without us
We need more of that feverdream mod for Total war medieval 2.
Anyone else notice that the capital of the German collab was LUXEMBURG
I have a cool idea! Play Democratic Bulgaria, form the Balkan Confederation, and then flip to Non Aligned, and bring Tsar Ferdinand back with move Palpatine would be proud of!
>British civil war
>Involves half the world
>Still technically British civil war
Yeah, that checks out.
That thumbnail- oh wow
One thing I noticed is that if you integrate everything into a world commonwealth, decolonization is not required for the communist tree, though you gotta be careful.
Wow that was a real twist ending
Did anyone else notice that mighty Luxemburg became the capital of the german collaboration government?
Drew Durnil
God, the pain.
manpower.. and tea
"Testicles"
And for that my man, You have earned a subscriber.
Pablo
Isorrow : No ones ever done this sh*t, why would anyone ever pick this path?
*me sitting here with 100% HOI4 and doing this way back when man the guns hit for the achievement tied to it*
ISP IS DOING A VICTORIA VIDEO HOLY MOLY
my favorite angloid uploads ONCE AGAIN!
The map man is back!
The blessed timeline.
this was good
I'd like to see Monarchist Greece... yes monarchist
This has to be one of the most cursed hoi4 games I have ever seen.
This is how Airstrip One happened, isn’t it?
Ah yes, the german capital of Luxembourg
Poland pro-soviet tree is BAD
This ended like a bizarro world Man In The High Castle.
Let’s go actually got notified of an isp video for once when it came out!
Had a game were the axis ignored the exact same spot as in the video and the soviets declared war on finland or romania I think. Of course they got instantly eaten by the japanese just to be released and do it again :D
If there really is a destroy the U.K. focus hoi4 u know I am happy about that
WE NEED TO GET HIM TO 1 MIL ASAP
Our national dish is roast beef! 🏴🇬🇧