Thanks for the cool vids boss, very sweet little machines always wanted one. Still have the original vhs video of the bell track and tire bunchers operating, simple and very effective. Thanks from Alaska
Hey, I had a question. I find rubber tired ones all the time. I was wondering if you knew anything about doing a conversion if it’s hard will dozer undercarriage work for the conversion
I think the actual track frame is bell but the components such as rollers, idlers,chains and pads are Cat. I think you would need to find a track frame from a salvage track machine. If you found one I think it would be fairly easy to mount it under a tire machine.
what state are you logging in here? Im from Arkansas and my Uncle used a rubber tire bell over here in these ozark mtns pretty good. I bet he would liked to have seen that track'd bell.
We are located in West Tennessee, the job we are cutting is east of us about 2 hours and it gets pretty steep over that way. My dad bought his first bell from a guy somewhere in the ozarks.
I have 2 super Ts what is the advantage of the larger bar an chain Sr im guessing longjevity but just curious an how much more productive does the Cummins make them just curious?
Sorry for the late reply, but the 3/4 bar lasts a lot longer, doesn’t bend as easy. I cut 800 plus loads on a bar once,I lost count when I started using two machines to cut. The 3/4 chains stay sharp longer and don’t jump off nearly as much as the 404 chains do. I know when I ran the 404 set up sometimes the bar and chain looked good but it wouldn’t cut and I would finally put a new bar and chain on to get it back to cutting. And I rarely have that problem with the 3/4 if the bar is straight and you have a sharp chain they just keep cutting even when the bar rails are wore pretty bad. To answer your question about the Cummins, it’s water cooled so you don’t have to blow it out as much as the duetz and the Cummins runs a lot cooler so your hydraulics run cooler too. As far as productive the ultra c (Cummins powered joystick controlled) and ultra t (deutz turbo powered joystick controlled) were bigger,faster and stronger machines with a completely different hydraulic system so that made them more productive. But the super t with a good operator isn’t far behind them.
Iv always run just one skidder. My best day cutting with the rubber tire bell was 20 loads of pine in 6 hours that’s 28 to 30 tons per load i don’t know what the board foot conversion would be. But that was in the best ground and best timber you could imagine. Realistic day to day in pine clear cut I could cut 10 to 15 loads with ease The rubber tire bell in hardwood timber just cutting trees down i think you could do a load to 3 loads a hour depend on terrain/timber Cutting and topping/limbing hardwood I would say a load to 2 loads a hour The track machine is a lot slower on the ground and I only use it in steeper terrain, also iv never ran it more than 3 to 4 hours a day, because I have to go load trailers ans cut up wood I can cut,top/limb and bring the trees either up the hill or down for the skidder and i have been able to cut around one load a hour sometimes a little more but there’s no chainsaw work and we don’t have to winch any trees off the hills me and another guy can cut 12 to 16 loads a week working 8 hour days in the steep terrain running the track machine and not crank a chainsaw or hook a cable.
I’m think it’s because they didn’t have to modify or change the design of the machine,all they had to do was put a sprocket on the hub instead of a tire and mount the track system. If it was set up like a dozer they would have had to put the drive motors in the back and totally redesign the machine. They did build a tf-120 model that had the tracks setup like a dozer. But it was a totally different design than the old 3 wheelers,
I don’t get any feedback on the t Ultra t and c machines I believe you have a super T lever machine and they definitely have feed back my first bell was a rubber tire super t and yeah you had to really push the pedals to get over a stump or out of a ditch,
@@allenmccall5021 I don’t know exactly what the difference is but I do know they have totally different transmissions, the super t looks more like a regular hydraulic pump and the ultra t,c looks like a hydrostat pump and it’s alot bigger than the super t
It's a shame they aren't made anymore. Great vid.
We have a bell tire cutter and love it. They are one of the best cutters ever made. Loved the video.
Thanks! And yes they are very impressive little machines, there isn’t a cutter that can put wood on the ground as cheap as a bell!
Thanks for the cool vids boss, very sweet little machines always wanted one. Still have the original vhs video of the bell track and tire bunchers operating, simple and very effective. Thanks from Alaska
That’s an slick machine
Great vid !
Just subscribed to ya looks like some awesome video’s almost watched all of them today
Thanks man!
Hey, I had a question. I find rubber tired ones all the time. I was wondering if you knew anything about doing a conversion if it’s hard will dozer undercarriage work for the conversion
I think the actual track frame is bell but the components such as rollers, idlers,chains and pads are Cat.
I think you would need to find a track frame from a salvage track machine.
If you found one I think it would be fairly easy to mount it under a tire machine.
I was wondering how operators drove so good in reverse lol it has a back up camera
Nice machine! I can tell its been taking care of. Do you know where theres a tracked machine for sell?
I don’t know of any for sale, they are kind of a rare machine! And yes this one’s in pretty good shape
what state are you logging in here? Im from Arkansas and my Uncle used a rubber tire bell over here in these ozark mtns pretty good. I bet he would liked to have seen that track'd bell.
We are located in West Tennessee, the job we are cutting is east of us about 2 hours and it gets pretty steep over that way. My dad bought his first bell from a guy somewhere in the ozarks.
I have 2 super Ts what is the advantage of the larger bar an chain Sr im guessing longjevity but just curious an how much more productive does the Cummins make them just curious?
Sorry for the late reply, but the 3/4 bar lasts a lot longer, doesn’t bend as easy. I cut 800 plus loads on a bar once,I lost count when I started using two machines to cut.
The 3/4 chains stay sharp longer and don’t jump off nearly as much as the 404 chains do.
I know when I ran the 404 set up sometimes the bar and chain looked good but it wouldn’t cut and I would finally put a new bar and chain on to get it back to cutting. And I rarely have that problem with the 3/4 if the bar is straight and you have a sharp chain they just keep cutting even when the bar rails are wore pretty bad.
To answer your question about the Cummins, it’s water cooled so you don’t have to blow it out as much as the duetz and the Cummins runs a lot cooler so your hydraulics run cooler too.
As far as productive the ultra c (Cummins powered joystick controlled) and ultra t (deutz turbo powered joystick controlled) were bigger,faster and stronger machines with a completely different hydraulic system so that made them more productive. But the super t with a good operator isn’t far behind them.
What Kind of Production do you get a day with the track Buncher and skidder, in terms of BF? What about two skitters and both fellers? Thanks
Iv always run just one skidder.
My best day cutting with the rubber tire bell was 20 loads of pine in 6 hours that’s 28 to 30 tons per load i don’t know what the board foot conversion would be. But that was in the best ground and best timber you could imagine.
Realistic day to day in pine clear cut I could cut 10 to 15 loads with ease
The rubber tire bell in hardwood timber just cutting trees down i think you could do a load to 3 loads a hour depend on terrain/timber
Cutting and topping/limbing hardwood
I would say a load to 2 loads a hour
The track machine is a lot slower on the ground and I only use it in steeper terrain, also iv never ran it more than 3 to 4 hours a day, because I have to go load trailers ans cut up wood
I can cut,top/limb and bring the trees either up the hill or down for the skidder and i have been able to cut around one load a hour sometimes a little more but there’s no chainsaw work and we don’t have to winch any trees off the hills
me and another guy can cut 12 to 16 loads a week working 8 hour days in the steep terrain running the track machine and not crank a chainsaw or hook a cable.
Good vid good machines had one of each , running a ryans on a 608 jack now !
Do the ultras have heat and a/c?
Does the bar and chain on these take oil? If so where is the reservoir
Yes they do use bar oil. And the oil tank is on the head, it holds over 5 gallons
Interesting how they put the tracks on backwards compared to a dozer.
I’m think it’s because they didn’t have to modify or change the design of the machine,all they had to do was put a sprocket on the hub instead of a tire and mount the track system.
If it was set up like a dozer they would have had to put the drive motors in the back and totally redesign the machine. They did build a tf-120 model that had the tracks setup like a dozer. But it was a totally different design than the old 3 wheelers,
Do you get a load of feed back on your pedals?
I don’t get any feedback on the t Ultra t and c machines
I believe you have a super T lever machine and they definitely have feed back my first bell was a rubber tire super t and yeah you had to really push the pedals to get over a stump or out of a ditch,
@@GBLogging wonder what the difference is that would cause that? That's my only complaint I have
@@allenmccall5021 I don’t know exactly what the difference is but I do know they have totally different transmissions, the super t looks more like a regular hydraulic pump and the ultra t,c looks like a hydrostat pump and it’s alot bigger than the super t
Cutting capacity?
I just replied to your other comment
are the tracked ones hard to find
Yes they are pretty rare machines especially one with a Cummins engine.
They made more of the duetz powered versions
Hi man can u give Randy's log shop no or website address.
Yessir here’s the number Logger Shop +1 (336) 973-4242