@@user-ob2hl7ec2b Only one cab forward(#4294) remains and it is displayed at the California State Railway Museum. Also the video was actually produced by Video Rails in 1991 and came out on DVD by Pentrex in 2004.
@@user-ob2hl7ec2b SP 4274 was scrapped, however a sister locomotive #4294 is preserved in a Museum in California, it is the only surviving Cab Forward.
I lived in California from 1967-1984, graduating from Davis High School (1977) and lived in Sacratomato while attending CSUS. I got to see the cab forward at the museum there when I visited in 1991 for the Rail Fair. These are unique and interesting steam engines. I have an HO version of the AC-10 SP Cab Forward in HO I hope to get out on the layout this year and run it!
I lived in Sacto, for 10 years. Working @ McClellan AFB, back in the 80s, I had NO IDEA that the trains I enjoyed watching -- were headed to DONNERS PASS...
It is a shame that 4274 wasn’t saved from scrap for pulling this excursion train, as the last cab forward to run over Donner Pass. Oh well, at least 4294 was saved!
1957! Wow! Two years before I was born! This is an incredible historical event that should be celebrated for all Californians especially the foamers like me ❤🎉👍🚂🚂🚂💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow, what a monster and thanks !! I currently live about three miles from the old Baldwin Locomotive Works, located in Eddystone, Pa. When I was a young boy, my grandfather worked at the guard shack at the entrance of the facility. Little did I know then that I would hire on with Penn Central in 1973 at the age of 19, eventually becoming a freight and passenger conductor. Retired in 2014, after 41 years of service. When I was in freight service, Westinghouse had leased one of the old back shops to build these huge nuclear turbine fans, that were shipped all around the world. They were completely balanced and had to be handled with kid gloves, while transporting, as not to damage them. I once also conducted a special train to transport one to Baltimore, for the port. The final destination was to be Saudi Arabia. Thanks again for the great video.
The cab forward locomotives are definitely one of my favorite types. They truly proved to be good engines on the Southern Pacific and at least one of these gigantic monsters got saved from being scrapped!!👍👍
That folks, is history. A class I very much enjoyed, US History, and state history, two classes that were mandatory in order to graduate high school many years ago. When you know your history as well as world history, it is knowledge, knowledge is power, and that is the biggest threat to governments of every country. Since 1985, the US governmental bureaucrats have done everything in their power to dumb down our educational institutions. History classes need to be reintroduced to our higher educational institutions, without it, many will miss the telling signs that have doomed many countries. Without knowledge, history tends to repeat itself, both good and bad, ...mostly bad!
This Cab-Forward, #4274, should have NEVER met the scrappers torch! I know of many steam locomotives, such as B&O Class EM-1 #7600, N&W Class Y6b #2176 and GTW 4-6-2 Pacific #5629, that should have been preserved and donated to railroad museums. I am glad that someone had the foresight to film a Cab-Forward in operation on Donner Pass!
It’s n&w 2174 not 76. And yeah, same goes for at least one of the NYC Hudsons and Niagara’s. 5629 was screwed over, as was 7600 who was supposed to be preserved yet some dumbass scrapped it anyway
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. Remember the " Donner party fiasco of 1847 winter snow.⛄trip-??? Cannibalism at it's finest -!!! 😋.
My uncle George was a towerman at SP's Bayshore Yard in San Francisco, and a big railfan - if there was any way for him to go see 4274’s farewell tour I'm sure he did!
Wonderful video! Thank you. Were engineers concerned about no protection in collisions? Were railroads so needing money that they had to scrap magnificent locomotives for the little income derived? Or were they also eliminating continual co$ts?
It looks at first so weird going about as if it's always in reverse which of course it's really not. Keeping one is better than none but I wish a few more cab forwards could have been saved. Maybe some rich railfans can have them recreated as they've done in England with the Tornado and "soon" 12 other types.
They state she and her sisters were sidelined because of the advent of diesel power yet she could pull a load by herself that would later take 4 to 6 diesels in tandem to do. Tell which was/is inefficient. Those snow sheds have since been replaced by steel reinforced concrete, they used to be wood.
The advantage of the diesel is in significant cost savings and could be operated in tandem whereas a steam locomotive needed to be individually operated with its own crew and requires its own parade of shop crews to keep that singular loco operational.
Ahhhh......dang. I thought she was put up somewhere. I realy dislike scrappers but more so those without foresight to save a couple examples. Now granted theres scrap , like the regular stuff , most of todays cookie cutter throw away cars , some machinery , even some loco's , but man , still today parts of our historic journeys are scrapped. I have seen miles of old engines sidelined waiting for scrap , were any kept? People bring in sought after vehicles yet today but getting very scarce. All kinds of items. We would like a caboose for our depot museum , at one point some were come get one , bet I cant find one very easy today. Shipping alone would be high enough. Nobody thinks ahead , like throwing out those old game systems or computers away years ago. All kinds of stuff.
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Northwest Ks. I used to drive truck for years and my relation and another 2 places I ran for all here so I could get a break on price. But we have dwindled down to a few people and no funds to get anything done now , its sad. S.P.P.A , Almena Ks. We had the Rock Island and Burlington both run through along US 36.
I think it's funny they blow the whistle when there's no grade crossing and use 2 distinct whistles, the sound men didn't have a clue about railroads and the narrator talked to much.
That "pew, pew" sound of the air pumps is certainly unique.
Priceless video from the era that preceded the current decadence of our society. Thank you for making this available. 2024/02/23. Ontario, Canada.
This is an Oscar winning emotional tale.
This video was produced by Video Rails and came out on VHS in 1992. It came out on DVD by Pentrex in 2006.
So who would want to see a moving junk yard on rails, man you need a life , stay away from the vaseline jar with your pals,,
Is she in a museum now?
@@user-ob2hl7ec2b Only one cab forward(#4294) remains and it is displayed at the California State Railway Museum. Also the video was actually produced by Video Rails in 1991 and came out on DVD by Pentrex in 2004.
@@user-ob2hl7ec2bNo, however the 4294 is in preservation at the Sacramento Railroad Museum and is the last of its type.
@@user-ob2hl7ec2b SP 4274 was scrapped, however a sister locomotive #4294 is preserved in a Museum in California, it is the only surviving Cab Forward.
I lived in California from 1967-1984, graduating from Davis High School (1977) and lived in Sacratomato while attending CSUS. I got to see the cab forward at the museum there when I visited in 1991 for the Rail Fair. These are unique and interesting steam engines. I have an HO version of the AC-10 SP Cab Forward in HO I hope to get out on the layout this year and run it!
Im glad this video was produced. Not only for the historic train run, but also because we got a detailed look at the line over the Sierras.
I lived in Sacto, for 10 years. Working @ McClellan AFB, back in the 80s, I had NO IDEA that the trains I enjoyed watching -- were headed to DONNERS PASS...
It is a shame that 4274 wasn’t saved from scrap for pulling this excursion train, as the last cab forward to run over Donner Pass. Oh well, at least 4294 was saved!
1957! Wow! Two years before I was born! This is an incredible historical event that should be celebrated for all Californians especially the foamers like me ❤🎉👍🚂🚂🚂💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow, what a monster and thanks !!
I currently live about three miles from the old Baldwin Locomotive Works, located in Eddystone, Pa.
When I was a young boy, my grandfather worked at the guard shack at the entrance of the facility. Little did I know then that I would hire on with Penn Central in 1973 at the age of 19, eventually becoming a freight and passenger conductor. Retired in 2014, after 41 years of service.
When I was in freight service, Westinghouse had leased one of the old back shops to build these huge nuclear turbine fans, that were shipped all around the world. They were completely balanced and had to be handled with kid gloves, while transporting, as not to damage them. I once also conducted a special train to transport one to Baltimore, for the port. The final destination was to be Saudi Arabia.
Thanks again for the great video.
The cab forward locomotives are definitely one of my favorite types. They truly proved to be good engines on the Southern Pacific and at least one of these gigantic monsters got saved from being scrapped!!👍👍
That folks, is history. A class I very much enjoyed, US History, and state history, two classes that were mandatory in order to graduate high school many years ago. When you know your history as well as world history, it is knowledge, knowledge is power, and that is the biggest threat to governments of every country. Since 1985, the US governmental bureaucrats have done everything in their power to dumb down our educational institutions. History classes need to be reintroduced to our higher educational institutions, without it, many will miss the telling signs that have doomed many countries. Without knowledge, history tends to repeat itself, both good and bad, ...mostly bad!
This Cab-Forward, #4274, should have NEVER met the scrappers torch! I know of many steam locomotives, such as B&O Class EM-1 #7600, N&W Class Y6b #2176 and GTW 4-6-2 Pacific #5629, that should have been preserved and donated to railroad museums. I am glad that someone had the foresight to film a Cab-Forward in operation on Donner Pass!
It’s n&w 2174 not 76. And yeah, same goes for at least one of the NYC Hudsons and Niagara’s. 5629 was screwed over, as was 7600 who was supposed to be preserved yet some dumbass scrapped it anyway
A 13 year old steam engine is classed as a youngster. Magnificent engines
this trip must have been easy on the locomotive, considering the tonnage she would haul over the mountain.
Thank You very much for this piece of History
The crewman at 4:11 is ckosing the air compressor drain cock, not opening and air line.
1:13 This Cab Forward Steam Locomotive Looks Amazing. Thanks Mate. X
My DAD use to take us kids to Tehachapi loop to see the AC`s go by.
better enjoy this before it gets taken down
Why would it be taken down?
Copyright. That’s why.
@@T128Productions oh duhh I don’t know why I didn’t honk of that
@@cindykerr-friberg5284 yeah it’s a Pentrex video
somebody uploaded this same video and then it got taken down
@@kleenexbox974 bummer
Beautiful locomotive
I love it so much!
Awesome, been waiting for this one.
The Tunnels Make the Charm of the Railroads ❤ It 😊
Great Video I ❤ Trains 🚆 😊
This unique steam locomotive should have been preserved in someone’s rail museum. But like much technology was scrapped disappointingly.
There is one SP cab forward in preservation, can't recall the number but 1 still stands
Cab Forward #4294 is preserved at the Sacramento Railroad Museum. 4294 is a type AC-12, built in March of '44.
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. Remember the " Donner party fiasco of 1847 winter snow.⛄trip-??? Cannibalism at it's finest -!!! 😋.
I called a steam locomotive a “stick train” when a little kid in the 50's. The US still had some running back then.
My uncle George was a towerman at SP's Bayshore Yard in San Francisco, and a big railfan - if there was any way for him to go see 4274’s farewell tour I'm sure he did!
Wonderful video! Thank you.
Were engineers concerned about no protection in collisions?
Were railroads so needing money that they had to scrap magnificent locomotives for the little income derived? Or were they also eliminating continual co$ts?
It looks at first so weird going about as if it's always in reverse which of course it's really not. Keeping one is better than none but I wish a few more cab forwards could have been saved. Maybe some rich railfans can have them recreated as they've done in England with the Tornado and "soon" 12 other types.
At the SP 4-8-8-2 Cab Forward #4294 have been preserved.
Is that the one in Sacramento museum? It’s huge!
Ace ===== we have no railways in Storrnoway, WI.
Would be fantastic if it could be digitally remastered.
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You think you could if you have it, post the movie mentioned at the end of the last Steam over the Cajon Pass?
They state she and her sisters were sidelined because of the advent of diesel power yet she could pull a load by herself that would later take 4 to 6 diesels in tandem to do. Tell which was/is inefficient. Those snow sheds have since been replaced by steel reinforced concrete, they used to be wood.
The advantage of the diesel is in significant cost savings and could be operated in tandem whereas a steam locomotive needed to be individually operated with its own crew and requires its own parade of shop crews to keep that singular loco operational.
That's when the movie Encino man came out with Brendan Fraser and Pauly shore yeah buddy
Does anyone know when the video was made? I couldn't see it in the credits.
The film was shot in 1958.
This video production is likely from the early 90s. VR produced several videos during this timeframe.
The accompanying sound effects are poor at best.
@@agwrr71productions79Correction: *1957
@@agwrr71productions79 Thank you!
Ahhhh......dang. I thought she was put up somewhere. I realy dislike scrappers but more so those without foresight to save a couple examples. Now granted theres scrap , like the regular stuff , most of todays cookie cutter throw away cars , some machinery , even some loco's , but man , still today parts of our historic journeys are scrapped. I have seen miles of old engines sidelined waiting for scrap , were any kept? People bring in sought after vehicles yet today but getting very scarce. All kinds of items. We would like a caboose for our depot museum , at one point some were come get one , bet I cant find one very easy today. Shipping alone would be high enough. Nobody thinks ahead , like throwing out those old game systems or computers away years ago. All kinds of stuff.
I know of a few cabooses
Where are you located?
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Northwest Ks. I used to drive truck for years and my relation and another 2 places I ran for all here so I could get a break on price. But we have dwindled down to a few people and no funds to get anything done now , its sad. S.P.P.A , Almena Ks. We had the Rock Island and Burlington both run through along US 36.
I think it's funny they blow the whistle when there's no grade crossing and use 2 distinct whistles, the sound men didn't have a clue about railroads and the narrator talked to much.
Are there any cabforwareds left????????????
One at the California state railroad museum on public display
Theorized to be acouple of them buried near tehachapi
Yes. SP 4294 which is an AC-12 cab forward
I Wonder if now they wished that they had keeped her.
I’m all for preserving as many steam locomotives as possible, especially this one. But at the same time there’s only so much space museums have
It`s a shame that they have taking away all the steam trains.
Great video, but the air pump soundtracks was annoying. Had to turn the sound down but then you miss the narration
It is ashamed they scraped her, no cab forward exists anymore.
SP 4294 is Preserved. That’s an AC-12 Cab-Forward
Not true. Theres one cab forward, 4294 that sits in the California state RR museum