The SECRET Move Ben Hogan And Moe Norman Used For Elite Ball Striking
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- Is this the one secret move Ben Hogan and Moe Norman used for elite ball striking??
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In this video, Milo explores a feel and rehearsal these two ball striking legends often used, even giving this instruction to others. Ben Hogan called this one move "the first move," and Moe Norman called this "the feeling of greatness." Some have seen this move as an exclusive movement to the right elbow in golf swing, but maybe there is more to it, more of a systematic approach? And maybe this signature move could help your golf swing? Let's explore...
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INCREDIBLE!!!
That's the best 8 minutes of instruction to understand the feeling of the swing I've ever scene. Using two of the best golf ball strikers ever, simular sport athletes and your own mechanic's for a resounding confirmation for great movement. You turned whats extremely difficult for most into a simple understandable form. EXCELLENT!!!
Thanks so much Todd! Glad you enjoyed it.
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He read the same scripture hundreds, even thousands of others have uttered. But this time the word came to life. Praise His Holy Name. Hallejjah
Great video, Milo. A real eye opener. It provides a clear concept of what the golfer should be trying to accomplish. I've been visualizing the opposite for my entire golfing life.
A different point of view no doubt.
Hi Milo there may be a better way.
Since our trail trigger index finger in connection to both hands and wrists are what actually turns our trail elbow inwards; I take the following measures
At setting up to my ball bending forward I simply preset my trail elbow rolling it inward towards my stomach just enough as to not disturb my grip as well as my club head laying perpendicular to my ball.
I then simply swing my club back with my arms and shoulders which moves my hips and legs automatically.
At the transitional part of my swing I specifically use the trail index trigger finger of my right hand to throw my club head down to and through the ball exiting left to a classic finish of my swing. The trail overhand throwing specifically using my trail trigger finger brings my trail elbow back into its slot along my stomach line and the centripetal force of my club head does the rest. Cheers 🥂👍😊
Milo is always teaching the same swing, but giving us new and different ways to feel and think about it. If you're good at a different swinging sport, then learning how the golf swing is like some movement from that grooved, confident swing can be the key to unlock your athleticism in the golf swing. I love that Milo don't care how he gets us get there as long as he gets us there!
Thanks as always! Glad you are enjoying the videos.
What a crock. A "secret" move! No secret at all. Just a con man preying upon gullible golfers.
Milo is the one of the best teachers and you can understand why he is becoming so popular. Love these weekly videos and this is a masterpiece!
You are too kind. Thanks for following along!
I have been playing golf for forty years, and you just open a window for me. Thanks so much. Your video is very simple, no BS and easy understood. You are the best.
Thanks so much for following along Steve!
Milo,
One of your very best videos! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I've able to somewhat reproduce that feel at slower pace and what makes it work is that I "feel" like I'm turn steering counter-clockwise going back which then causes the tension in the arms/wrists/shoulders to "spring" back the other way at the top and shallows out automagically... NOt sure if that's the right way of visualizing it but I'm getting closer.. Just need to resist temptation to swing at my usual 110% or I revert back. Fighting my brain more than anything. ;)
Great video by Milo, as usual
Thanks Milo...just reinventing my swing and looking for a baby fade...think youre onto it man...appreciated
Thanks for following along! If I can be of further help, please do reach out on my website, milolinesgolf.com.
It totally makes sense. I've been working really hard of keeping my right wrist bent in a downswing because I was getting rid of the angle too early. And one thing I noticed is my body has to turn and let the hands and arms follow in order to help keep the right wrist bent back
Bingo! Thanks for following along!
Excellent video highlighting the traits of all good ball strikers on the downswing and at impact ! Well done !
Thanks for watching!
Perfect timing Milo, as a few pull hooks have been spoiling my score lately. Thanks mate.
Glad to help
🙏✌️ this explanation is so helpful for showing my bad swing’s compared to good ones. Thank you
Love to hear, thanks for watching!
Wow this is amazing 🤩 Thanks a million ❤
You’re welcome 😊
4:20-4:40 was helpful to see and hear your description.
Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
I’ve heard the steering wheel analogy but sometimes hearing the same move explained a different way resonates more. Turn the steering wheel to the right or a feel of the baseball analogy. Train the feel is key!
these sums it up the golf swing once and for all 👍
Not sure about that haha, but thanks for the comment!
Super description and execution of the mechanics. Big fan of moe’s for a long time. The problem I have with it is that I loose a ton of distance and my miss is a big wipe out to the right. Hogan perfected it to stop big hooks and I’ve perfected it to give me big slices. Still, it’s a beautiful looking move. I wonder if growing up playing baseball (which I didn’t) makes it easier.
I had to make some adjustments from my baseball days to control club face. Sounds like yours it too open, but I'd have to see your swing to offer the best feedback. Have you looked into joining my online academy? milolinesgolf.com
Very good Milo. I also use an in to out downswing that promotes a draw, never a duck hook, and provides extension with my arms at impact.. I personally can feel the power generated using the feel you’re describing along with my swing techniques that works for myself and countless others. Especially those that slice by coming over the top, and chopping or swinging outside to in… That makes up a lot of golfers. Last thing I try to keep my back to the target as long as possible…
Thanks for watching, however I don’t feel back to target myself…have you seen this video? czcams.com/video/mkuvnoPqmeY/video.htmlsi=6Dn5F-32cg8-KyWF
No more three chops and a plop. Now you be putting for birdie on almost every hole. 💪
TREMENDOUS!! Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
As a kid growing up in Canada in the 60s and 70s I was an avid hockey player, and I was enamored with the slap shots practiced by Bobby Hull, Guy Lafleur and Bobby Orr, among others. I would practice my slapper every time I would get to the outdoor rink across the street from where we lived. I got pretty good at it from all the practice I put into it. Years later when learning the golf swing it didn't take me all that long to develop a good golf swing, and after watching this video I now see where I got the ability to hit a golf ball. I also had a decent baseball swing back in the day.
Love to hear it! Thanks for watching.
I wanna make a short movie about your swinging experience.
Pointing the end of the club shaft at the ball on the downswing will create this angle and under movement. You also want your shoulders rotating on the same plane going forward as it did going back.
Thank you! Perfect timing. I am an athlete muscular more than fit. I have been struggling with this. I will re-watch this & practice until it becomes natural. Rn, I'm stuck once I'm up lol. I know it's all about the hip & body turn to hit clean & stronger.
If we can be of any further help, you know where to find us! milolinesgolf.com
I couldn't agree more. Although, it's a very difficult sensation to teach. I feel like my hands are moving upward as my body turns through the shot and when it's done correctly the ball explodes off the face.
This is AWESOME !!! Imma take it to the range
Let us know how it goes!
milo, is the right arm coming down inside kind of causing the body to jack knife in a squatting motion and not extend early, is that what i'm seeing?
I keep coming back to this video; it's priceless.
If I Learned this 40 years ago I would have been a scratch marker easily!
I'm a 71yo and down to 9 from 21 6 months ago : currently off 14.
Woohoo!
This is the highly protected and jealously guarded occult science that the pros have deliberately kept secret from us hacks for centuries.
But things are beginning to leak out by serious whistle blowers like Milo who are taking big time risks to lead the charge to help the masses break par.
Protect this man's life at all costs for his teachings could bring down the entire $500 Billion golf teaching industry and jeopardize their cartel monopoly.
If Biden can award the Congressional Medal of Feeedom to Nancy Palosi then clearly Milo deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for this masterpiece. 💪
i do this now and its working thank 👌
Good to hear Daniel, thanks for watching!
This move is absolutely clutch. I’ve been able to replicate it but I need pointers like the feels you mention so it becomes natural and more consistent. A lot of the longest players on tour like Min Woo Lee have that same window open with the trail arm well below the lead arm, produces tremendous width and speed.
How does this tie in with a roll release please? Great instruction.
Thanks Coach Milo . . always looking sharp and fit, amigo.
Gracias amigo
I have a big problem with severe hooks. I think this will really help me. Thank you!!!
Let me know if I can be of further help and thanks for watching! milolinesgolf.com
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Thank you!!! It's winter here in Michigan, so when spring hits, I will be on the range, armed with this knowledge.
The interesting thing about the right elbow at impact is that it only gives the illusion of having been independently driven forward in the downswing. This is because the effect of rib cage / hip rotation is being missed. If you isolate the right elbow, 3D imaging shows at impact it's actually behind it's address position relative to the rib cage. To prove this to yourself, create a good impact position, then without changing the position of the club, wrists and arms, return to address posture (bring your hips and rib cage from the open position of impact back to the square position of address). If you do this correctly, you'll see the club is about 18" behind the ball and right elbow is a few inches behind its position at address. The only reason the right elbow appears forward is the rotation of the hips and rib cage. It's ironic, but the more a player tries to drive the right elbow forward independently in the downswing and through impact, the more they're going to shut down hip/rib cage rotation through the ball. The right elbow should lag behind and be pulled (towed, as Milo says) around by the rib cage, not be driven across it.
those baseball clips really illustrated this perfectly to me - subscribe and follow. Outstanding.
Welcome aboard!
Another brilliant lesson where the theory is practically demonstrated.
Grateful Aussie.
Thank you sir!
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Swinging the tool like an athlete. Thank you Milo 🙏🏼
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the pushing up of the right arm and rotate the club up and backward look like float loading, but man, that' s where the power come from. Thanks coach!
Thanks for watching!
Fascinating and, considering what phenomenal ball strikers Hogan and Norman were, this is something to take very seriously! I often note how steep top pros’ shoulders are relative to the ground, some are almost vertical at impact whereas most amateurs have shoulders barely off level.
Great video. My only problem is i hit it 2 fairways to the right. please ... how to square the face now. Without rolling. downswing opening forearms. cant release it enough. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I'd have to see your swing Marcus to give you the best possible feedback, but I don't feel like I have to square the face as it's already aligned early. Have you looked into joining my online academy or taking a lesson so I can work with you? milolinesgolf.com
This is a really interesting feel that has helped in my last few practice sessions. I've been struggling with low point issues, high launch angles, and over drawing the ball. This feel seems to help with all of those things. It does feel like the club is wide open though coming in from P5 to P6, do you ever experience that? Trackman is reading it as a straight ball flight, so I'm going to stick with it!
For many the feeling of the center of mass laying down feels like it’s opening the face but if the wrists are working correctly, it’s not actually opening relative to the ark of the swing
Would rotation take care of squaring the face or does there need to be some left wrist flexion at impact?
There are matchups based on grip. The hands definitely need to be educated well to manage the face.
Milo . Do you start the side bend from the top!?
Love all these 'new' instructors who have unknowingly been teaching moe norman moves are now discovering his genius. The 'shallowing of the clubhead' is pure Moe Norman. He described the feeling as putting the clubhead in his pocket. Apparently, Hogan and Norman got this from Ted Williams. As shown in this video great baseball hitters understand this.
Let the clubhead drop the opposite direction as your turn and like magic it will square up.
Moe was a true savant!
Know a lot re: Moe's method. Good session Milo.
Thanks!
Transporting the window… Love That !!!
Thanks for watching Mike!
This reminds me so much of what teacherman, baseball hitting guru teaches
Some similarities, yes.
Two of the finest ball strikers of all time. They both knew exactly where the ball was going every time!
They were incredible!
They were is possession of deep esoteric golf knowledge that has been kept under lock and key for centuries. Heck, they had this stuff figured out back during the time of the Pharrohs when they constructed the Great Pyramids. Obviously alien 👽 technology which has been intentionally been kept secret amongst the golfing elites for centuries. It's all beginning to come out however. Whistle blowers like Milo are democratizing the game of golf finally making shooting below par easy peasy. Thanks Milo 😊 You are a modern day Pharroh with a heart ❤️
Milo this is a great video, however, whenever I try to do this and exaggerate my right elbow in and below my left arm, I always push it out to the right or slice it cuz I do not have enough time to turn the club over and or release it. How do I fix that please?
When I do this move the face really isn't open and I can unwind pretty freely without needing to square it. Your matchups, perhaps grip or such are not allowing you to freely move through without needing to put on the brakes and square. I'd have to see your swing to give you the best possible feedback. Have you looked into joining my online academy? milolinesgolf.com
Similar to Trevino’s take it outside in the backswing, a bit of a loop, and then turn the wheel down to the right as he crunches his right obliques to get to and through impact.
Similar, yes.
Trevino belongs in your video.. Awesome Job. Appreciate
We have one coming out with him soon!
I don't believe any more training videos are necessary. After this classic you can pretty much retire with complete satisfaction knowing you cracked the code and have delivered upwardly of 2.7 billion golfers from the sins of the past, providing us all with the keys to the inner universe.
You can do the Mic Drop and ride off on your horse towards that's beautiful mountain and meet with the Elohim who gave us the game of golf.
Thanks 😊 for all your help towards not just for golfers all over the planet, but man kind.
Milo, I watched a video of you and Mike Malaska discussing the tip out method aka “Malaska move”. Seeing that you are both amazing coaches and this video seems to be polar opposite… how do we bridge the gap between these ideas??
There are lots of ways to swing a club this is my preferred option because it is how hitters hit in every other hitting activity from swinging an axe to a bat or racquet. I generally don’t like the idea of tipping the club out, on that subject Mike and I have a difference of opinion and that is fine.
Thanks Milo for another great video in a stream of videos that have led me to transform my swing in a couple of months - would it be okay if I pasted the link to my 8-min YT video here where I hit some shots and demonstrate a couple of drills? It's entitled "Body Rotation in Golf Swing to Propel Clubhead to Ball with Lag and Zero Club Shaft Twist + Drills". I'll wait to hear from you - thanks!
Go for it! If I can be of greater help, please do check out my online academy at milolinesgolf.com. Happy New Year!
Great vid as always. Check out Gerry Hogans book the Hogan manual of human performance. If you could do a review of it would be awesome. Thanks for all your doing for us choppers
Milo great video and just subscribed to your website. Understand the basic point about the right arm relative to the left arm in the downswing but looking at the Ben Hogan swing you posted, it seems to me that something more is at work there. About midway into the downswing, Hogan's golf shaft seems to suddenly steepen suggesting, to me, that he is dong something with his arms (hands) to make the club tumble out (relatively) compared to your or Norman's swing. Can you comment?
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I don’t see the shaft changing planes
Milo, The biggest thing that prevents me from doing or even trying this is how open the face appears to be in the downswing. I've been taught and trying to have the face fairly square to the path. What am I missing? Thanks so much! Ron
My face really isn't that open in this video, it's an illusion. I employ a strong lead hand grip as well and minimize face rotation. Maybe this video can provide further context: czcams.com/video/GXdCkrNlpzM/video.html ...otherwise we cover this more on my website at milolinesgolf.com.
(2:05) Not only a 'stable strike' but that's how the power is generated! Like Hogan said, it's the same move a baseball infielder would use to throw the ball hard to 1st base! But golf legend Jack Nicklaus had a 'flying elbow' swing and he did pretty good on the PGA Tour too!
Thanks for watching Paul!
Byron Nelson was an incredible ball striker who later was instrumental in the careers of Ken Venturi and Tom Watson among others. He often referred to his secret move as feeling that he was tucking his right elbow into his right side on the downswing. Different ways of saying the same thing.
A lot of greats have talked about that right arm in detail. Thanks for sharing and watching Brian!
The light bull went off today with this technique. The biggest difference…ball flight. The “pushing up and away” just clicked. Thank you for sharing.
Great to hear Michael!
My first bet expires September 14 and I have 3 others expiring by November 7.
As I have said I have been laid up in hospital and also playing in and winning a board event: soaking up valuable time.
But I will get there!
My proposal is this: take me on at NO Charge, study my swing, map out a concise training regime and when I get to single figures use me as a marketing partner.
I look forward to working with you Milo.
If you board an alien 👽 golf cart you will be touched by the gods who'll transform your psyche into Ben Hogan's resulting in you qualifying for the 2025 Masters. The only thing missing is you putting the right glove on. Do not blow it. This is a tap in. You got this!! I'll be looking for you on TV next year as you round Amen Corner on Sunday afternoon at Augusta holding a comfortable 28 shot lead.
The Green Jacket is yours, IF you practice that is all that is being taught here.
Shot a 71 with this feeling no joke how good moe Norman was with his feels on the downswing
Awesome!!
How do you not blade it dead right by doing this?
Wrist conditions and face need to match up.
@@MiloLinesGolf I love the vague explainations... lol. "wrist condition and face need to match up".. lol thanks bud... that clears it up for him lol.
Hey @TheSalonGuy.... the move this guy is talking about is a feeling!! Moe Norman said that it was a feeling. He also said he wanted to feel like he was swinging the club down the line and not to the left. We all know that is not what actually happens in real time. The club goes to the left regardless. Feel vs. Real. By now, we all know the difference between "FEEL and REAL". Some people say the complete opposite... like you should feel like you're releasing the club from the top. Again, this is a "FEELING" not reality. I get it. But you can't look at this as anything you should consciously be doing in the swing. If your Grip is fundamentally correct, the hinge will facilitate good release of the club head. The wrists do NOT really hang back that long. Look up mike malaska's video on tipping the club. It is much more useful to understand how the hinge works in the swing and how to not lose the club behind you, and maintaining leverage on the club, while allowing the hands and arms to FALL into the "slot". You should never feel like you're pulling it from the top. The ONLY form of pulling you should try to feel is your body weight... pulling the shoulders, arms, hands and club into contact. If you maintain the proper hinge, the rest should take care of it's self. There's a fine line between firmness and tension. The tension in your arms needs to be removed before you turn away from the ball. If you tried to hold off the release like this video is telling you, you will launch everything to the right.... just like in the intro of the video, you see this guy blast one way out to the right. If you can FEEL like you keep the trail elbow in front of the trail hip, make a full turn while utilizing a proper hinge, with the correct tempo and pressures from the ground, send the proper transition of weight from the ball of the trail foot, back (and to the left) into the Heel of the front foot. This will facilitate a clearing of the left hip, and in doing so, if the connection is maintained in the hinge, the hands, arms, and the head of the club, come down to the back of the ball with very little rotation. the rotation that causes you to face the target at the end of the swing is a result of the club taking you through to the finish. you should never try to hold off the release.
A *supinated lead wrist* into impact. Mr Hogan emphasized this as much, if not more than any other point throughout his books. Pair this with his "three right hands" and it's nearly impossible not to flush the ball all day long. And the real magic is when you combine it all with the tensionless transition Milo discussed. Oh and the secret sauce is a very simple reach away and up as your takeaway. I know the one plane low and slow muscular approach is en vogue since Tiger, but in my experience the two plane approach is so much more body friendly and productive. And it just looks so better too.
But how do you get from that position down to the ball?
What about the hands and arms at contact and the follow through
For me personally I have a similar feel. I like to feel that the toe never overtakes the heel of the club. It may look like it's wide open, but for me, it's just square. I use my pivot to square it up, and I feel like I can turn as hard and fast as I want. Keeping the hands quiet is essential. I focus on the hands and arms just raising and lowering the club. When you get it, I promise you will hit it like never before. See ya'll on tour in the future
That is a common feel for high level players 👊
Watch teacherman hitting. He was the coach for rodgers. His training aids are phenomenal. Maybe try them for golf? I dont think anybody has taken his training aids and applied them to golf
I've seen a lot of his stuff, interesting concepts and some parallels.
So what you say is basically the opposite of Mike Malaska who also refers a lot to baseball. Would love to see a video of the 2 of you together.
Whose golf swing is your favorite? Hogan's or Moe's?
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When I do this with the driver I hook it. Thoughts?
I'd have to see your swing, but good chance you are tilting and creating an overly in to out path. Have you looked into my online academy? milolinesgolf.com
Love your stuff Milo but we both know that even if your right arm is below your left in transition, you can still easily hit a pull hook. This is something I i personally struggle with. I shallow the club too much and with that move it causes me to increase my angle of attack and hit a big high pull hook.
Sure if you tilt away stall and tumble the club but if you flex and rotate never tumbling the club you’ll never hit a pull hook.
@@MiloLinesGolf by tumble I'm assuming you mean flip, and by stall I'm assuming you mean early extend, correct?
Wt??
How do you square or close the club face with this swing? Feels like your club face would be wide open?
Trail wrist extension
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks
Huge Moe and Ben Fan
Many are, hard to deny their greatness!
So it's simple and easy but too complicated to explain. Just great.
Kind of like walking easy to do difficult to explain exactly how you do it.
If you've been an over the top swinger your whole life, this is going to feel VERY different. I'm going on 4 years, and it's just now starting to feel normal. My advice is to start slow, and don't worry about distance. As soon as you start going for distance, your old pattern will show up. The mind muscle connection has been a bitch to retrain. At least for me.
Agree man just got this feeling down after coming over the top for years. Very weird. The good thing is it’s a feeling I have to concentrate and because it feels so weird I know I’m swinging it right when I feel it lol
Old habits die hard
But I thought over the top was a miracle swing.
@@countfloyd1269 hand path in and over can be a great pattern when matched up correctly.
Christo?
As one of the best 80 yr old golfers currently in the world today I agree
Glad you liked it and thanks so much for the watch!
Hogan's video was about using the lower body as the first move..that's what he described as the first move
Right, as do I, but the arm structure I show here was still rehearsed and demonstrated in his swing.
Mo Norman is clearly EMPHASISING the movement with that bold, sweeping pose.
Everyone talks about the magic right elbow. However, the true secret is in both elbows and you may want to take a look at the impact position and where it is pointed at impact. Good Luck!
If you want to see the visual personification of perfection, watch Ben Hogan's golf swing over and over!! Especially at impact. If you look at it in slow motion his right elbow is virtually NAILED to his side, almost beyond impact. Eat your heart out Jack and Tiger. Even they had nothing close to the control of a golf ball Hogan possessed. They just putted better!! If you want to see how to HIT a ball from tee to green, look no further than Golf's greatest ever shotmaker. William Ben Hogan.
Milo, As you are probably aware, I'm a 71 year old Aussie dude who has been following your coaching for a while.
I have implemented this move and it's had a profound effect on my game.
I wonder if we can take advantage of each other!
I had placed a bet at my club Nov.2023 that I would get to Single figures by Nov.2024I was 21 hcp at the time. I have had health issues and played and won a board event that soaked up precious weeks and I'm still down to 13.9.
I need to focus on getting my short Irons closer to the pin!!!
Do you think we can we work together somehow?
Thanks.
J.L.
Sure thing, I have an online academy which includes monthly analysis and our program, and can do virtual lessons. My website has all the details for this: milolinesgolf.com.
No, I meant deeper than that. You don't come across too many 71 year Olds with a terminal illness playing off 21hcp and declaring and achieving a Single figures HCP with in 12months.
@@OfCourseICan what are you proposing?
BTW, I had a look at your short iron video and invaluable chipping: maintaining the radius that should shave mega stokes off my handicap.
Moe actually called that move "The Master Move" referring to his "Vertical Drop and Horizontal Tug." The "Feeling of Greatness" was his pure ball strike at impact.
You are correct, the master move brought about the feeling of greatness haha.
I'm guessing you have a two or three knuckle lead hand grip. If you set up with the clubface looking way left and then swing it open on the way down. Your body will respond in the same exact way with the window.
Subbed today. Weird question though. What brand of pants are you wearing? I'm early 50's and do not like the slim fit offerings on the market and these look perfect.
Donald Ross Sport
Time to go back to the balloon style pants popularized by MC Hammer, who carried a plus 1 handicap before he lost his fortune after the rap business. Now he plays to an 8.
@@quantumpotential7639 If I could play religiously to an 8 I'd wear his ballon pants today! I'm in!
This is like a piece of scripture. You can come across and read or hear the same verse dozens, hundreds of times even, and then one day, it's like the Hogan's first move comes to life at your very core. Everything clicks. You dun seen the light. Praise to The Almighty. Trust in His 1 iron. It'll bring you home.
Haha, thanks so much for watching.
hogan wrote the bible and moe spoke the truth
When you show the move without hitting the ball, the clubface is open at p6 every time, but then on the actual swing you make, the face is square. I dont really understand that. My main problem is getting to p6 with te clubface open, very much like when you demonstrate the move without hitting the ball.
I have seen this demonstrated. If you were hitting a ball that was waist high, I get it.
What I don’t understand is how you get the club down to the ground where the ball is.
You have to compress into the ground.
This was great, one of Milo’s best. So in baseball you’re driving a waist high ball out into the field. In golf, think of an imaginary ball being not directly in front of you, but instead 90 degrees over on your trail side, still at waist height. Make it your goal to hit the imaginary ball straight down into the ground, not toward the target. Your target is the center of the earth. Think of hitting this imaginary ball with your shaft, not your clubhead. This is key. After that, the clubhead getting to the ball will take care of itself! Happy hunting!
that's beautiful
Seems like Jon Rahm does that as well.
Thanks Milo, here's that 8-min video: "Body Rotation in Golf Swing to Propel Clubhead to Ball with Lag and Zero Club Shaft Twist + Drills" czcams.com/video/a3wNPoANDoc/video.html
Respectfully, I believe that, for Mr Hogan, this "secret move" stemmed from the initiation of his down swing by his lower body and the proper sequencing that resulted and not any conscious positioning of the forearms. He always emphasized proper sequencing in his instruction, whereas Mr Norman very much emphasized the arm positions.
Why does this seem so completely different from what Pete Cowen teaches.. It's amazing how different instructors swings look and what they teach to keep the clubhead square.
How is it completely different? This elbow move seems similar to Cowen’s loading of the trail shoulder, maintaining the wrist angle on trail wrist, and rotating the body to square the face. I think he just talks about it differently.
He’s a great coach. We all see and feel things slightly differently though the majority of the greatest players ever have these elements in their swings, there are however some outliers.
There are many ways to hit a golf ball……
No there isn't. This is the ONLY way. I dum see the light. Trust me.
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Superstition mountains?? I used to live in San Tan. Are you at Gold Canyon??
Superstition Mountain Golf & Country Club, yes.
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Good golf course sown there. I really like Poston Butte in Florence. We are up in Prescott but we do make pilmagreges down to the valley a few times a year
There’s another instructor on YT who’s got a fake golf club with a massive head as big as your hockey stick, looks really good and quite amusing.
I've thought about getting one of those!
The majority of neurons of the motor and sensory cortex are concentrated in the face and hands.
Ref Dr Penfield, McGill University
Ie whatever our intent for our face(tongue) and hands the other body parts support
by keeping us upright(autonomic balance) and to prevent injury.
For complex chain action movement, a singular intention initiates the orchestration of body parts.
From top of BS through impact is less than 1/4 second. A time frame impossible to control body parts consciously. We can only initiate the complex chain action by a singular intention.
That intention for Ben Hogan, Moe Norman, George Knudson and Lee Trevino was to supinate the dominant trial hand from top of BS through impact. ie turn right palm to face the sky.
Elbows, weight shift, hip movement are all to support the singular intention.
REF motor and sensory homunculus.
Training the hands is important for sure but there is definitely a place for working on moving their rest of the body well too.
You dont understand. The body supports the intent we have for our hands.
Suggest you google homunculus, Dr Penfield
No human can consciously control, train body parts during a complex chain action that happens in less than 1/4 second. it is not humanly possible and when/if we try
we override what is rightly for our subconscious, we open ourselves to creating more complex issues with our subconscious.
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Good video, but I’d like to hit high towering shots.
High is easy.
Well, all you do is press the index finger side of your left hands towards the adjacent thumb pad of your left hand, in the transition. It's that simple
I like what I’m seeing I can see out of right eye the butt of the shaft pointing At about 45 degrees half way down in the downswing.momentium square the club.
trail scapula compressing......wow, there's a thought! Trail side crunch? Lateral side bend? Pulling the heavy chain....
Milo.... It is my opinion that Hogan did in the backswing the opposite of what he wanted to occur in the downswing.
He cupped his left wrist to promote the "uncupping" (bowing) into impact
He had right arm on top at address and in the backswing to promote just what you cover in this video...right elbow/arm under
Your thoughts please.
To some degree I think you’re correct
@@MiloLinesGolf DO you agree he had his right arm is somewhat on top of the left at address.? The Cano films really show it....1953. And he certainly cupped taking away. If you have a moment, where do you "somewhat" disagree? Thanks.
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Interesting observation. Golf has many times been called a game of opposites.
I feel like I can do this great with no ball. Put a ball there and the face is so open I have no choice but to stall and flip. How do you match this by getting the face closed correctly? Cheers
Perhaps your face is too open in transition to begin with, I'd have to see your swing to offer the best feedback. Typically I see the club face more open in practice air swings. Have you looked into my online academy? milolinesgolf.com
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Looks a good move and makes sense , but could lead to a Shank
Could, especially at first when changing movement patterns. I often get students that make a change and start hitting shanks, but it's never a concern as they just need to then adjust how they power the system. Few more shots and they start flushing it!