Nuclear Engineer Reacts to The Lockpicking Lawyer "This Should Be a Nuclear Launch Key"
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Locks just unlock themselves when LPL enters the room. If a video of his is over 5 minutes long then it is considered a good lock or contains added content :)
Yup, either he's disassembling it, it's a joke/prank or he's ranting on some security issue...
locks seem to do that with McNally official.
@@critter42I was about to say "extra content" isn't necessarily praise lol
🤓😅😅😅
@@madmax2069 Fun fact, Lockpickinglawyer is the boss for the company that mr. Mcnally work in aka covert instruments
LPL is one of the best youtubers of all time. He picked his genre, he executes it expertly, and there's no frills or wasted air in the video edits. True genius of a creator.
Get it? He picked his genre. Hue hue hue. Unintended pun.
That's awesome pun you have there
Good job 👍
Hi April 1st posts are legend . .
@@danielweston9188 Yes, getting into his ex's back door was a particularly good one.
The thing with LPL is, if it takes him half a minute to open a lock on camera, it is considered a good lock. If it takes him more than a minute, it is considered a _very_ good lock
It's also a good lock if he uses a special tools to open a lock.
He never beat the Bowly lock
He also consideres what the locks are for. I remember he praised a bike lock that took no time at all to pick, but required a specific instrument and was tough to cut through. Basically, it was good enough against bike thiefs.
Nuclear keys on the other hand must be held to a much higher standart
I think LPL could pick most locks in a power plant. It's scary how easily apparently solid locks can be defeated. If you see anything with "Masterlock" stamped on it, then using a key might be slower than him.
LPL could pick *any lock.
@@chrisb7528except for Bowley locks, but, then again, no one has been able to pick those yet anyway.
the best thing to open a masterlock with is another masterlock
@@andreww2098 Master picker?
@@nword9239 Nah McNally(official)
Imagine you're in the fallout universe and you're sitting in your Vault and you hear "Click out of 1... 2 is binding..."
"you are using a Vault Tech Cog Door. It can be opened with a Vault Tech Cog Door"
[Explosive Forces Are Felt]
"Lockpicks that never break? Don't mind if I do."
Absolutely needs to be a mod as a random encounter.
Now let’s do it again so you can see that it’s NOT a fluke
I watch the Lockpicking lawyer a lot. people send him "Challenge" locks to try to pick. There was one or two where a locksmith built their OWN lock specifically to challenge him. I know it's not normally what you react to, but even if you start watching this guy without reacting, you're in for a DEEEEEEEEEP Rabbit Hole!!!! I lost COUNTLESS hours at night binge-watching his videos, and YES he's great to listen to before bed!
Nothing on 1, slight click out of 2, 3 is binding, and now we’ve dropped into a false set…
@@michaelraney6732 like picking lawyer has such a soothing voice. I could go to sleep to it every night
Lock Picking Lawyer’s April Fools videos are exquisitely hilarious!
I was going to suggest he go watch one (or more) of those!
Yeah, good for "try to not smile" contest.
"I wouldn't want something like this" is what people say about a lock after watching a few LPL videos. Watch a LOT of LPL videos and you'll realize that locks - and by that I mean ANY lock - will never keep *everyone* out.
Everyone - no. But there is very small number of people as skilled as him in lockpicking and even smaller doing break-ins - most robbers just try to force their way through or bypass lock. So if he takes over 30s picking the lock, it has probably solid enough core and if the body is solid and don't have stupid flaws, then it's good to go for most people.
@@Eshelion Yeah, he even praises some locks that they are hard to pick. Some locks require special tools and if not a lot of people use that lock (if it's expensive for example), then a criminal is unlikely to have the tool or the knowledge to use it.
BosnianBill was completely stumped by a Gerda lock. I remember seeing a YT video where it was shown how to pick it and decode it, but yeah, it requires special tools and you'll be there for a while. So, it is possible for a locksmith to open, but for a criminal, breaking the door or window might be easier.
Yea, I haven't seen statistics but I doubt it's often to have a home break-in from a lock being picked. That's a specialized skill. You want to focus on having your door frames reenforced and windows locked and other security measures such as deterrents, a good dog, a gun handy, lights around your house, cameras, etc.
Totally agree - a lock does not prevent access, it just slows it down.
and others have made the point: interlocks and lock-outs are to prevent UNintentional changes, not prevent them.
(But i still want a big (harder to lose) mean looking lock and key on my nuclear reactor, and well, _any_ rocket launcher. 😅
There are plenty locks you're not going to unlock without the key. But, you can, of course, *destroy* them... thus gaining access to whatever.
On the topic of lock-out-tag-out locks, LPL did an excellent demonstration of the Masterlock paradox using a lock intended for T.O.L.O. applications. It had a great core, but the construction was weak. Masterlocks either have great cores and bad construction, or bad cores and great construction. You can't have two good aspects with a masterlock
A master key can open every door, a MasterLock can be opened by any key
The point is that if you really, REALLY need to open that lock, you can use a crowbar as your key. But if you do, you've now got lock parts all over the floor and a lot of explaining to do.
@@XxDramaticBatuMasterlock can be open just by McNelly look
European locks: "the main threat is picking"
American locks: "the main threat is a 12 gauge."
@@ranid0072 "You are using a MasterLock. It can be opened with a MasterLock."
If a video of LPL is longer than 5 minutes, that's usually a glowing review for a lock. XD
Or LPL is doing a full teardown of a lock into a pinning tray.
For lockout padlocks that electricians use, they don't need to be burglar-proof. They're often just made of plastic so they can be easily cut off because people often forget to remove them. They just need to be unique so one electrician can't accidentally override another electrician.
Exactly. They are locking against mistakes, not against sabotage or malfeasance.
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Those plastic locks actually have very secure cores in them with lots of security pins.
Their metal counterparts however are very easy to pick. Go figure. Master lock is a trash company.
Yeah, I work in a warehouse and we have a few different loto systems for our different machines. The common factor in their design is they don't need to be secure, they just need to be hard to activate by accident, but easy to do it on purpose when you need to.
Ironically one of the most pick resistant Master locks he has done was for a lock out tag out lock.
Exactly and as it is a criminal offence to remove a lock off without authorisation, They don't need too be very strong.
I remember reading somewhere that many lock out / tag out locks have a plastic body, so they can be physically forced open in an emergency. However, many also have a complex / high security key mechanism to make it very unlikely that the wrong key opens them. You don’t want Joe inadvertently opening Mike’s lock.
I love LPL videos. Two minutes is all he needs to open just about anything, and he doesn't talk about liking and subscribing for extra 10.
Unless it is packed in duct tape. Then he spends two minutes just getting it out :D
Unless he’s playing with it. With huge bore ammo….
LPL is actually a magician. A real life wizard that can open anything or anyone he wants to, just as the whim strikes him.
But only if he owns the lock, because he is not just a lock picker he is also a lawyer.
There have been a few locks on record in his videos he has yet to succeed in picking. Or at least, yet to succeed at the time of recording the video. It's entirely possible that since then he's made new picking tools and gotten past all of them, but you know, some locks do at least present a challenge.
LPL just have to ask a lock and it start to unlock itself with pleasure.
We even have these in the feed mill in an industrial setting. The guy with his hands in the blades or gears of the machinery or standing inside the mixer while cleaning it NEEDS to know that no one can just bump a switch.
LPL is my hero! I've watched everyone of his YT videos. He's shamed many lock manufacturers into improving their products. And then there is Master Lock...
"master" "lock".
@@Gameboygenius Two wrongs make a right?
There are basically 2 types of lock manufacturers in that regard. The discount locks that sell because they're cheap and have good product placement like Masterlock. And the good locks that sell at higher price based on their reputation instead which actually pay attention to what people like LPL say.
Funnily enough, even the discount locks will sometimes send locks to influencers like LPL because any random good mention they get out of one of those is a net gain in sales, even if the others all tell their audience not to buy it.
Some hater usually pops up saying he's revealing "secrets."
@@Takyodor2 it takes 3 lefts to go right
Spot on. The safety of plant and personnel is in the protocol of which the key is only one element. It's used to make sure that nothing gets forgotten during the procedure, that things are done and undone completely and in the correct order. As you point out the lock has no real "security" function like anti-theft, it's a device that means that the operator has to make a deliberate manipulation. As an example, if an electrician isolates an electrical panel to work on it, the protocol can be designed so that he is the only one who can re-energise the panel so it's not done unintentionally by his buddy or his manager. Bear in mind that sometimes the isolated device might not be visible from the where the lock is situated.
If you watch lockpickinglawyer you will quickly realize that even security locks only keep honest people out. If someone truly wants to get past the door / gate they will.
Enjoy looking at his safe selection... he started his channel after becoming aware of how many security devices are barely skin deep, and learning that companies do not actually fix problems or even inform users of issues that were discovered.
4:10 😂 and sadly that still took longer to pick than a Master Lock
if the lock holds up for more than 5 seconds it is pretty good. but usually they open up faster than his shadow.
By the time you've finally reached the control panel and are ready to launch the nukes, a fancy lock isn't going to stop you. It may buy some more time, but honestly, all the other layers upon layers of heavy security. It does work great to stop accidents from happening (or in one radiation incident, bypassing the safety lockout caused the disaster)
Though, in the USA, that's unfortunately not necessarily true. For example, there was a case where the security door (the one meant to stop attackers) at a launch facility was held open with a crowbar.
Last Week Tonight did a show about this a few years back, and incidents like that are far too common.
@@patrickdix772that show was straight garbage, a hatchet job for sensationalism. That clip was my first and last time watching that 🤡
I worked in ICBM silos and in their associated launch control centers. I don't have perfect knowledge of all the steps involved but it wasn't just a matter of turning two keys simultaneously to launch a missile. There would have to be involvement from the top levels of govt before it can be activated. At least, that's always been my understanding. An entire chain of events need to be set in motion (at the launch control center and away from it) before it could be launched.
My favorite one was the 'key-interlock' we had on a couple of batteries and the busses they supplied. There were main disconnects and a cross-tie. Three massive 'switches' and only two keys. The idea was you could use either battery to supply two busses, or 'split' so one battery supplied its own bus. You had to open one, take the key out and put the key in another to close that switch. Wasn't a huge amount of security and all, but the idea was, "Do NOT connect the batteries together."
Makes sense. If you connect two batteries together the charge will try to equalize as fast as it can, probably too fast.
This lock is all about chain of custody and controlling simple access. Picking isn't an issue when you're likely searched before entering a facility and there will be other safeguards limiting access to the physical device.
Depends what you need to pick it....
One of the alternative simple locks that would attach easily to a panel would be a round style lock, also seen on pushbike or motorbike locks. They can be opened with a bic biro pen, which will still work afterwards!
if it takes LPL a minute to open it, that's actually high praise for the lock
Heh .. that was a very unexpected but cool reaction....
And yeah, you're totally right, those "technical locks" rely more on their presence than on their actual security against getting picked.
I never thought about that in the context you present. Thanks for that. ;)
Yeah we use "lock out, tag out" padlocks at work to safe out energized systems. The locks aren't really exposed to picking and in an emergency need to be able to be cut off.
Emergency being someone took their LOTO key home on a Friday and now they can't start the plant for the weekend.
and yet, they still did better than the masterlock
The lockpicking lawyer is amazing
LPL is a lot of fun, but I'm now convinced that no lock actually works.
@lockpickinglawyer is just amazing. I have a few different of his pick sets and watching his videos has "opened up" the world so to say. :)
LPL is basically, "What if an A+ Lockpicker ran a No Nonsense ASMR Lockpicking Channel." He has NUMREOUS great videos that you should really watch! If you want a laugh, check out his April Fools Videos!!
I love your reaction to LPL being so calm, that is probably one of his best qualities. I love picking and have learned a lot from him, but yes his video's are very relaxing :) Take care!
That’s such a COOL lock though.
I wish it worked in hobby electronics; I’d try and rig that up to be an interlock for my PC’s start button.
You can Integrate that in hobby electronics, even if it's a bit of a Jerry rigged way. You could find a way to utilize the little bar in the back to trigger a switch that's wired in.
I guess getting to those keys and locks would IRL have been THAT much harder than picking any lock.
The nuke launch keys were simple regular 4 pin keys, nothing special, were kept locked in a file cabinet with two combo padlocks securing it shut, guarded by two armed officers each of whom knew only one combination.
Many control panels lack hardware guarding. This means the lock in a locked state cannot be pulled from the panel and actuated with your finger. The lock from LPL appears to have countersinks for the two mounting screws for two small machine bolts facing out. The same for your example. The design depends on the use case and can be secured to the panel from the back. I have seen this done in one case but then a panel with a dozen switches could all be lifted off by using forward screws on the entire panel. Sometimes the interlock exists for the user but not the technicians.
Thanks for the breakdown. Always fascinating to hear more about stuff like this.
Wow did not expect to see you looking at lock picking videos. Once you start looking at how bad physical security is generally, but yeah these locks are meant to be low security anyway. But most "high security" locks have flaws that make them very easy to bypass or pick.
The Lock Picking Lawyer is a Beast! Be sure to look for his annual April fools videos.
If you see a mobile (on wheels) x-ray machine in a hospital corridor you'll see a lock barrel on the side of it, just to stop bored children pressing the buttons, you'll also see them on dental machines for the same reason.....I spend quite a bit of time "hot wiring" them as the staff like to lose the keys alot LOL
That looks like a BWR 'reactor mode switch'. On the main panel and that thing is 'beefy'. It's geared to four different 'decks' of switch contacts for four different divisions of reactor safety circuits. You can't just 'bump' that thing to another position, you have to put some work into it. The one we had (JAF power plant) turned just 45 degrees between positions (shutdown, refuel, startup, run) while turning the switch deck shafts 90.
The only time we took the key OUT of the switch was when in 'shutdown'. You never lock it when the reactor is operating as you just MIGHT need to turn that thing quickly.
I've watched LPL for years. He is amazing and funny.
Tyler, have you ever had an "Oh shit!!" moment where you had to shut down the reactor immediately? Not a controlled shut down but when you just drop the control rods into the core, that kinda shut down.
USNRC has a database of "oh shit moments" www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/prelim-notice/index.html
Never expected a reaction to LPL. Absolute legend 😊
Thank you very much for the videos, such great knowledge to be had about nuclear technology. Wishing you all the best.
i would love a video of you going over diffrent types of radiation sensors and how sensitive they are :)
Please this!!!
LPL is such a relaxing channel. You can usually judge the quality of lock by the length of the video. Since LPL is so skilled, if a lock gives him trouble for more than 45 seconds then it's a good lock. More than a minute its a pretty good lock. Minute thirty its a very good lock. Anything over two minutes is a great lock.
He judges different locks differently. My favorite series is his one on gun locks. Because a gun lock doesn't need to keep out a super skilled picker. It just needs to be good enough to keep out a curious kid. So as long as it can pass all of his child safety tests then he considers it a good lock.
No need to react to them if you don't want to but I do highly suggest binging his videos on a rainy day with a pint of ice cream. It's a good time.
Lcokpickinglawyer: We’ll get you out of jail. Even if you lose the case.
I appreciate this truly informative kind of reaction
I make software for logistic systems. We have two levels of those keys. One we use to de-energise the automatic control, to open the security cage. Behind that door, we have the B key, we bring to the actual machine to enable it to run under local control.
There is one thing LPL taught me for sure: There is no physical lock, that can't be opened by picking it. This man has done already so many locks of every type on his channel and everytime i thought "he can't do this" he did it and he did it fast af. A high security lock (specially built by a lock Company to test him) took him 1-2 mins. And he worked with a timer which was always visible as well as the lock came in a sealed letter which he opened while filming so he did not practice this specific lock (what he usually does).
Thanks for introduction into some of the controls and workings of a Nuclear reactor! Interesting to hear! Also, LPL is quite talented! LOL
I’ve been a long time watcher of LPL, and yes he tends to be scary quick picking locks. In defense of these locks, he seems to have been doing it a long time.
LPL in your title seemed to get you a good crowd, sure caught my eye. Enjoyed the video. From the "Nuclear Launch Key" perspective those keys are even simpler than this really, picking them isn't really an option as there are numerous keyed switches that have to be engaged in multiple places, often in synch, and they're all in areas where there are people 24/7. Pulling out your handy dandy lock pick kit and going to work on a keyed switch has an incredibly high probability of being noticed.
Locks similar to this are also used on amusement park rides to "lock them out" in the event they have to be evacuated from somewhere other than the normal unloading position or in an emergency situation. It's to prevent the ride from starting back up and injuring people during evacuation or when they're in areas that are unsafe during operation. In the park I worked at in HS, only the area managers and maintenance crews had the keys to lock out rides.... this is why there's often a 10-15 minute wait between when a ride shuts down and evacuations actually begin (someone with a key has to get to the ride to lock it out).
For the uninitiated: Typically Lock-Out Tag-Out ensures any work being done on a system is complete before the system is powered up and operated. Usually its in the form of tags or padlocks that are placed through the breakers of a system such that it is (supposed to be) impossible to reengage the breaker while a lock or tag is still on it. Youd keep the key for a padlock on you as you do your work, or in the case of a tag you sign it and only you should be the one to remove it. Of course, the application and executions of Lock-Out Tag-Out scheme is location and equipment dependent. The overarching idea being workers are protected from equipment they're working on suddenly becoming powered and mobile.
Several people have noted that lpl is pretty much the god of locks, but I feel it needs mentioned that he also doesn’t feature a lock until he can unlock it reliably. So it’s fairly likely he had this lock for a couple of weeks before he was ready to film.
I used to service CO2 fire suppression systems at natural gas fired power plants. Arrived at one for a service call where the previous service company tech replaced a compressor and needed to test. Instead of using the radio always supplied by the power plant operator and calling to have the lockout / tag out removed from the breaker supplying the unit, the tech cut the tag off and powered up the unit. Didn't take long before he was forcibly escorted from the premises (never to return) and I had to finish up the work he had done. Their tags were locked by just a simple wire tie so it's really just a keeping the honest people honest type of thing. But they DO take it very seriously and it's well covered in the annual training you have to undergo to work in those facilities.
Love your reaction videos.
When I looked at the panels for a real nuclear silo, and I saw they were repairing the key assembly on one of the panels and they actually had to do all the repairs and maintenance on all the equipment in the silo.
And I said, what is to stop you from running wires from the key assembly to the other panel and be able to " turn" both keys at the same time.
They told me that they have tested that and they also told me other information about how the systems work and how much redundant systems and fail safes are in the design.
It is very complex, but it really comes down to the fact that two very disciplined officers are keeping each other on the list and they were each armed to stop a rouge from doing something they should not.
One of the amazing things that I found out was that the Air Force has an agreement with many colleges and they have the entire degree for many programs that they send to the Air Force that the officers in the silo can study and do the entire course and take the tests by mail, sending in the exams and getting the degree mailed to them.
They all had degrees from many colleges all around the country.
Which also fed into the cover stories to protect their identity.
So an officer in a silo in ND for 1983 through 1987 actually has a degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Southern California that said he was living on campus during those years attending classes daily.
It is amazing how many people have degrees and even appear in yearbooks, despite never having stepped foot on campus and never even been in the state.
It is wild
LPL is great. I'm surprised he didn't make the comment in this one but in other LOTO ones he mentions the purpose isn't for "security" in the meaning of protecting property from an intruder or theft but safety and security internally. That particular one is designed for a system to control gate access to hazardous areas without the need for electrical wiring or any spark concerns. It's overbuilt because it's needed to handle any outdoor rugged condition. The one very cool thing about the actual full setup (it's too bad he didn't have the actual bolt part) is the female lock is attached to a sliding bolt blocks BUT you can link multiple sliding bolt blocks together thus requiring multiple keys (like a nuclear launch key design) for higher risk areas. I don't know the total max number but I know at least 3 can be used theoretically requiring 3 people to be on site at the same time. A practical example would be key A: Technician, Key B: Confined space safety officer Key C: Audit observer (or whomever)
Yup... LOTO locks really are not the most pick-resistant items. They are just there to prevent someone from doing an unintentional dumb; for and intentional dumb, you just need a set of bolt cutters. Shipboard on a submarine, locks only go on specific systems, and most tagouts are just the Danger tags. The LPL's channel is cool, rarely the videos are over four minutes long. It is amazing to see how quickly he picks or defeats locking devices.
Locks used for interlocking don't need to be high security. They need to be reliable and reliability not interchangeable. But they don't need to be pick proof.
Oh cool, you watched the video, too :)
I'm proud of you
Easily impressed, I suppose :) :) :)
Seriously I need to do a better job of watching to the end before commenting.....
@@jonathanedelson6733 now i feel bad for being a jerk. Thanks a lot!! (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ
As a wise man once said all a lock does is to prove you did not want your stuff tak-er i mean keep a honest man honest. Especially proving to courts that your important stuff was not just sitting there even if it is a flimsy lock as in you can just break it off as the point of a lock is you made it clear to those looking at it "AUTHORIZED ACCESS ONLY"
I love when my favorite CZcams channels overlap.
For personal items. I'd prefer a lock that you need to destroy if you don't have the correct combination or key. When my garage was broke into many years ago. They didn't touch the locks. They cut the bolts on the plate holding the two locks. Was a wooden door.
I never would’ve imagined you reacting to this
Reminds me of a safety interlock in a factory I used to work at - to access a robotic weld cell you would have to remove key A from the control panel (activating the E-stop) and take it to the access door, put it in the lock there which would let you remove key B, put it in your pocket and open the door. Key A would be trapped in the rear door lock until you locked the door with key B, then you could walk back to the control panel and reactivate the equipment with key A.
They're used in main-tie-main substation switch gear to prevent you from slamming phases together from different power plants.
LPL can glare at a master lock and it will open.
Don’t mess with LPL! That dude will wait till you fall asleep and pick your brain quicker than Freddy
Like you were saying with lock-out-tag-out locks, the goal of nuclear launch keys isn't security, it's enforcing intentionality. The Soviet keys you showed a picture of demonstrate that. Military uses facility security to defend the launch controls. The keys are there to make sure the chain of command is followed in a scenario where the facility has approved people there. Their primary goal is to make sure they launch fast when the order is given.
There is an officially-denied but somewhat credible claim by former officers involved that when the President ordered them to use an 8-digit security code on all nuclear devices, they were all set to "00000000" by policy for a while by generals who wanted to ensure fast launch.
We call them “trap keys” where I work and what they do is to allow an authorized employee a quicker means of doing a lockout that is frequently done. For instance, I used to run a machine that needed to have plastic pieces cleaned out of a die-cutting operation. The machine would plug up every fifteen minutes which would have meant four lock-out, tag-out procedures per hour which was ridiculous. With the trap key I just shut the machine down, open the breakers, remove the key and put it in my pocket. Five minutes later we’re up and running again. The key is ridiculously heavy-probably so you don’t take it home. It’s good for security when you’re close by but I can’t see using it for more than that. Those suckers are not cheap either.
Yeah, thats a key system my company uses in automotive for our big robot cages. Its a lockout key that ensures no operation is possible if the key is not in socket so that the robots cannot hurt anyone conducting maintenance inside the robot cage. Basically the key locked both the cage door, and the robot power. The door doesn't open without the key pulled out of the socket, the robots will not operate without the key in socket, process would also demand that the person going into the cage takes the key with them so that the cage cannot be restarted while they are inside, by someone else. Basically an idiot proof safety feature.
We had other features for our cage too, like pressure sensitive floor tiles that when activated would not allow the cage bots to start up.
I can only assume the shroud was to protect the key from damage. Im not really sure what the shroud is for. But they key is basically like an E-stop or emergency stop. Totally not a "launch key". Glad Lpl squared that right off the bat.
I own the same bike lock as the lock picking lawyer...he could get it opened, but took him way long to bypass the lock, and it took many, many grinder blades to circumvent.
He's picked a lock using a Lego man. He is the John Wick of lock picking.
Lpl is so powerful that he could almost look at some locks sternly and the'd pop open.
He opens them with lego. Drinks cans, forks, magnets anything really.
Lpl is very good with locks
He can probably open any lock in less than 6 minutes
There was one double-warded pin lock he wasn't able to open and some out of Bosnian Bill's collection he didn't try on video. But in general, yep.
Cool comment, added a lot
"Oops, I tripped and accidentally picked the reactor interlock switch."
Some locks are just there to make sure switching something has to be a deliberate action.
If you sent a reactor mode switch to LPL that would be awesome. Like an out of date or obsolete one, not you know, a current one. ;D
I tend to see LOTO locks as more a symbol than actual security tbh - they're there to stop you, but only until you make a deliberate decision to override them.
When I drove forklifts, the standard LOTO device was literally just a cardboard tag and a rubber band - standard protocol for pretty much any issue was Stop-Tag-Report, and it's just accepted that no one's going to operate a tagged-out machine. Though to be fair, that was a context where it'd be your own life on the line if you ignored a tag.
Btw do you know the breaker types where you have to charge the main spring with a handle, before switching them on ? hate those sounds the spring makes and the impact ... :)
Allen-Bradley. Not a company that you commonly see in locks. I've used AB parts for decades, and they did (do ?) make mechanical switches, as one of their many electronic component categories. Switch locks are (were) common. But I don't remember AB making any. Great carbon composite resistors, back in the day, though.
I'm not familiar with this kind of key switch, but generic key switches are quite common industrial components. AB, Omron, and probably every other major manufacturer of industrial switches probably makes their own variants of key switches too.
I worked in a factory with steel stamping presses, and basically all of them had at least 1, often 2 keyed switches on their controls. Usually one was to switch between continuous operations, single step, and set-up modes, while the other was to enable ram height adjustment (as messing with the ram height could lead to smashing a very expensive die).
You have to bear in mind that LPL is basically a lockpicking savant, so don't judge a lock by how quickly LPL can pick it. You could conceivably convert his pick time in seconds to minutes for a regular person with some lockpicking experience.
President we lost the nuke keys
President :call the lock picking lawyer
He usually mentions when locks are for safety but not security. What watching his channel has taught me is that very few locks offer any real security beyond the basics.
The locks in heavy industry are rarely there for security, mostly for safety. If you hack your way thru the two maintenance doors to get to the back of the furnace. And then they start up the furnace.
Let's just say, you won't do that again. When I worked underground in a mine, the people who died had often taken some shortcuts with the safety protocol. Sadly sometimes their workmate died with them.
I used to read a lot of pulp fiction submarine warfare books, and the mention in a nuclear submarine or "Scram the pile" for shuttling down the reactor
LPL is great. That man can open anything.
LPL has superpowers.... the toughest locks fall apart in his hands.
I can look out my front door and see TMI, three mile island. It was just shut down last year.
WHAT A CROSSOVER NO WAYYYYY
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Baked or not
@@XxDramaticBatu idk 'bout OP, but I‘ll take the baked ones.
There's a community called "things full of beans that shouldn't be full of beans". And now the CZcams comment section is one such thing.
LPL should be on any high security operations because of his ability to find the unbelievable absurd weak points and have them corrected
Sometime, someone, somewhere, will save their asses by knowing which button to press or switch to toggle in order to trip emergency shutdown.
When I was a machineist, we used keys like that for lockout / tagout too. Same reason... Safty.
If we saw something like that with a red tag on it, we knew not to use that machine.
As someone that's worked industrial maintenance on large steam system I can tell you right now that LOTO locks aren't ever that secure. I've cut them off with my linesman pliers before after someone has quit mid job. They are a definite reminder with a specific person tied to them that's all. Nobody in a maintenance department would ever cut a LOTO lock unless they were trying to be dumb. They're as secure as the lock on your power meter. Enough to place blame if it's missing but not anything you can't bypass if you're stupid enough.
Makes sense that the keys in industrial control aren't meant to prevent a determined attacker, just that the keys represent the grant of authority/authorization to trigger that control. If you are breaking out the lockpicks you're already obviously bypassing that grant of control which that system isn't meant to prevent. The 'thing' these keys represent isn't securely protected, one could use a screwdriver to open the panel and short the appropriate wires instead. You don't really expect the lock of a cabinet with tissue-paper sides to really keep anyone determined out.
I was just thinking you should react to the Lock picking lawyer like 30 minutes ago!!!!
He works fast. 😂
You got to the main point at about 5:30- it's not really designed to be hard to pick. If a bad guy with a lock pick gets that far, you have worse problems than needing a super lock.
Wait till he learns about McNally. He does what the LLP does but turned up to 12. It’s like going from a normal electrician channel. to Styropyro.
A few years back a store called American Science and surplus had actual nuclear launch switches, and they were basically medeco locks twisting a rather generic spring loaded Cherry Inc momentary switch. 😮
Used to work for a guy who formerly worked for a defense contractor. They had, for whatever reason, a launch console. He grabbed the key when they got rid of it. Obviously it was differently cut than the one for the real launch consoles, but it looked like what you describe.
That they were surplussed indicates that the actual current launch keys are upgraded from what was for sale at the surplus place.