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- An immigrant mother’s struggle to keep her family afloat, with her husband detained by ICE in a facility where COVID is spreading. With The Marshall Project & the Pulitzer Center.
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Norma, along with her children, could no longer afford their apartment after her husband, Jesus, was detained following an argument. They moved in with Norma’s mother-in-law - but when she came down with COVID-19, the family could no longer stay with her. So begins Norma’s intense struggle to keep her children safe, housed and fed - while also working to get Jesus released as coronavirus cases rise at the facility where he’s being held.
Filmed across several months and directed by Emily Kassie and Ben C. Solomon, this documentary from FRONTLINE, The Marshall Project, and the Pulitzer Center is a powerful window into how the coronavirus pandemic is impacting immigrant families.
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Never ever call the police when your fighting with your spouse, unless you feel your life life is in danger, if you do more then likely someone will go to jail, a lawyer once told me the police are not your friend, their job is to put you in jail and their very good at it.
You are so right
Never trust a police or even lawyer...... it’s a fake democracy....
So true don't call if you're not really gonna leave. My mother in law did this and then they stayed together (always do) they were stuck paying such money in fees.
So much
@@olmed4405 You are right. That money they raised could of sustained her children in a stable environment for at least 6 to 8 months. He will hit her again. I lived in domestic violence
Women never cease to amaze me. She’s living in a hotel room with 4 kids no other place to go but gets money to bail her husband out of jail???? I thought children are
always a priority because they didn’t ask to be here🤦🏾♀️
I assume he will work and pay it when he gets out.
She is driving a Honda Pilot, a decent car. I assume that he was a decent provider when he was not in detention.
This woman already had children and then she married an undocumented man and had even MORE children. Then she filed a complaint against him because he got drunk and was abusive. What's wrong with this picture? I feel bad for her but she hasn't been the best decision maker!
And then borrowed 25k to have him released.
I'm happy in my 3rd world country where I can buy an 8 dollar whole roasted chicken with gravy and I'm already full for dinner. But hey these Latinos had it rough in their gang and cartel-infested countries. They either forcibly want you to join them or you'll be six feet under. No wonder many Latino immigrants want to go to the greener pasture.
@@crystallaner230 total lack of education.... I can barely afford 2 children!! and I an American since the 1700s.
Shelley Charlesworth
Your reply is the most accurate you are 100% correct as much as I feel bad for her she’s been here since 2009 most of those that come to this country automatically jump on welfare and suck up Social Security money than us hard-working Americans will never get to retire because of shit like this
Khaleesi Romaerys
Holy shit eight dollars for a roasted chicken? That’s a lot of money what country do you live in? I live in the USA Boston chicken is cheaper over here LOL
I was raised by an undocumented single mother. She was independent, ended up buying her own home, and now I’m finishing up graduate school. It’s hard being an undocumented immigrant, and I do empathize with these kids. But I look at this women and see how different she is than my mom. My mom didn’t wait around for a “man” to fix things, she did everything on her own despite being undocumented.
Everyone is different just look at born Americans bumps
latina women are hard working and strong minded people
Yup same here. My mom(greencard holder) and dad(citizen) both got a home but my dad only enjoyed 2 years of it till he got a stroke. My mom that didnt speak english, couldnt even write check cause she depended on my dad to take care of everything did it on her own. And till this day 18 years later she still has the home and keeps it beautiful. I was only 14 but did my best to teach her english and to write in english as well.
Oliver Cruz so did she ever get her legal papers she sounds like a good woman and hope you make her proud ❤️
John Adams amen
The way I see it, this couple hasn't been responsible about their lifes. If they know they are undocumented why they have so many kids, no secure jobs, a home.
First comes financial security and then family.
You never can really prepare for a baby. And sometimes things don’t always go as you planned at first.
I could understand if it was just once child and then after that getting better about birth control and not wanting anymore but when you keep just popping them out like she was, then clearly she didn’t care about not preparing
@@Bloom2Grow Birth control is 99.9 percent effective. You can prepare for a baby.
It is pure insanity for this couple to have that many kids knowing that they are here illegally . . . . Why ???? . . .
Live off us….disgusting we allow this to happen. Free medical care, food stamps, absolutely revolting
One too many beers , which lead to a phone call to the cops , costing them 25k. Now he’s really on the radar .
And so is she neither one of them have any legal right to be here
@@octaviajackson6909 dam near all of California are from mexico.
The children needs their father what makes them happy and a family as a whole. A place to stay can come later.
The american dream has become an american nightmare, even for born and raised americans, its a shame, that corporte and political greed had turn this country into a mess.
So true! The bloom is off the rose in America a now. We are circling the drain.
dumbo interneto we’re now a corporate-run, failed fascist state thanks to all of the dumb asses who have voted for republicans for the past 40 years. I’m not leaving, I just hope Americans realize that the GOP is a giant scam to loot the treasury for personal gain and do nothing for the people.
No one owes you a living. Many now are entitled people who buy houses and cars they cannot afford. Most of my friends and I do fine because we live within our means, got an education and did not have kids before we could afford them.
@@ehiggins360 yes .. greedy, self-serving , twisted predators .. are blatantly showing off and of course getting away with it ..
@@ehiggins360 yes .. the extinction of natural resources, species, true beauty, sharing, caring, empathy, hope ♡ LOVE
She really came up with 25,000 for his bail but not for a home I’m fucking baffled
A real man would have stayed there and told her to get his children a real home to stay in
Exactly what I was thinking. 25k could have gotten them a decent place, used furniture etc. Mom needs to get to work. The older kids could hv p/t jobs and help with their siblings. Where there is a will there is a way. She certainly came up with a lot of money to get her man. Not that he isn't needed. Kids need a dad too.
@@numbernine3436
Kids don't need a DEADBEAT DAD.
That’s not how bail works . She would have only paid 10% to bail him out which is still a lot of money but not 25k
Its really easy for ppl ( you guys) to judge on a situation you know nothing about!! ... those kids need their dad! ... and i dont think his a beat dad because they had a roof over their head before he got detain!!!
Are you kidding me rn?! What’s the point of him being a father if he’s not present??!
Better pray for this situation to not ever reach you. Who says that?!
1. is disadvantaged by being immigrant
2. Has to support her whole family
3. Is obviously not familiar with State and Federal laws
4. Thinks calling cops is a good way to scare husband....
.... yet This woman is somehow surprised that cops took her domestic violence call seriously and sent her husband to ICE detention center...
THE IGNORANCE
So how do you scare a husband like that?
I'm an immigrant(DACA) or what some people would call me an "alien". Ignorance is not an excuse, seen this video made me feel anything but sorry for that woman. Not only was/is she the cause of her financial instability but on top of that, she is useless in a crisis. Can't do anything without her husband and isn't financially responsible. She spent all that money bailing that guy out of jail instead of using it to rent a place and utilities.
Will he be deported
@@MrDiegoc16 Agreed
It does not matter where you come from. Undocumented or documented, make good choices and PLEASE DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN UNLESS YOU HAVE SOLID FINANCIAL STABILITY.
(@Lovemetrublue) Are You Kidding?They Have Kids Like Rabbits.Responsibilities Don't Mean Nothing To this Illegals.
the dumb and poor are always popping out mistakes they cant afford and dump them on the tax payers.
Everyone makes mistakes. Not everyone is born rich and lucky. Some people have to fight everyday to live just a regular life, these people develop character not just given an easy life at birth
I’m undocumented and had one child who was not planned at 23 we make sure to have protected sex and be careful to not get pregnant again because we won’t be able to afford it and now I’m 30 still with one Child only it’s possible. You need to be very responsible. It’s hard I feel bad for the kids going through that situation hope they are in a better place right now
Well now they can't even have access to abortions in Texas. So if a minor gets pregnant, and her provider is a single mother and there are other children then how is she supposed to get the money for an abortion in another state. She has to have more children. It makes no sense.
I feel Andrea. It's selfish of the mother to keep having kids when she can barely take care of the two children she already had. I was in her situation and I was tired of it all but I managed to get over it. Now I'm living on my own. Sucks.
I understand where you're coming from, believe me, I was the oldest of 5. I didn't have a childhood. But 1. How do you think that makes her younger siblings feel? They're not burdens, they're sentient beings who deserve to not feel like they were mistakes to someone, especially an older sister that they look up to. 2. That mindset also doesn't help anyone. Those children exist and maybe the real problem is that life here in the USA is cruel towards most families. Capitalism is not family friendly. If you're not on the path to get rich, your needs are at the bottom of society's radar. If her father had never been detained and leadership in this country had done their due diligence to stop covid-19, this family would not have been suffering so much for starters.
Yeah, my mom should have had less kids, but that's not the reality we live in. My siblings exists and they deserve a good life as much as I do. This family did have problems but they're suffering was only exacerbated by government failure to protect the people who occupy this country.
Edited to add: This was not an attack towards you, btw. I send you my love because I know you were neglected as a person for a long time. Hope things are better for you now. 💙
@@lizprice8783 The problem isn't Capitalism, it's the government & their special interest which makes it Crony Capitalism. BOTH SIDES, Republicans and Democrats are responsible for everyone's heartache right now, along with those they have bombed in the middle east. That's the problem with the world. That virus is a biological warfare btw. Also, don't tell someone their mindset is wrong when you don't understand what they are talking about. You took it way out of context.
Hispanics are largely Catholic and feel a certain way about contraception as taught against by the church.
@@lizprice8783 Thank you for sharing your experiences with us!
@@gregorysmith1134 not all hispanics are catholic, i use to be and left that system a long time ago, im a believer of Christ not a religion,
why would she have 5 children as an illegal immigrant? I lived abroad in another country for a while and I couldn't imagine living in a country with no legal documents and deciding to stay and then having 5 children. Just the absolute stress as a single woman without children living abroad was rough enough, but with 5 children?...
Her eldest daughter got to the heart of it "No one deserves to go what we are going through."
@Wonderful world i dont see the world as legal-illegal having beem involved in immigration field for 20 years. All are human beings struggling to live a better life and to have food and shelter. Im not going to comment on anyones personal hell--all immigrants have their own hell stories. Having a bit of human compassion goes a long way.
@Wonderful world i didnt set up any system. Its set up for us. Why do you bring up immigrants from Soviet Union? Also, I dont care where anyone is from. Your example about standing in line--life isnt a grocery store checkout. I dont agree and Im entitled to my opinion. You have an issue with me. Again. I dont care. You have a personal problem. I dont care. Please go live your life and stop being so angry at people who have perhaps worse wrecked lives than you. You have no idea.
Social services should remove the children and get them out of that dysfunctional alcohol field drama until the parents get their acts together.
They should have not had any more kids
Why couples decide to get so many kids and they can’t even afford to have them? I got married at 18 and always wanted to have 3 kids, that’s it! I knew that if I had more I couldn’t afford what they needed.
Me also..stopped at 2...that's all we could afford..hint..hint
You had accesses to birth control an abortion if you wanted one. Not everyone has accesses to those resources consider your self lucky but don't condemn those who did not.
Big facts. I stopped at one.
Same I stoped at 2 plus I’m a single mom I don’t want to struggle more. I can’t wait to tie my tubes
Girl 18? 3 kids sounds like you were also not responsible.
I was so Heartbroken when her daughter Cut herself OMG she is soo beautiful and full of life💙💙💙💙💙
Yes, that’s exactly what I said. The two older children are affected more than anything. The 17-year-old would be best to Get a job, move out, and start her own life. That is the only way to get out of this situation.
@@JJ-hw9dt but here is the thing Jen the two older ones were brought over with the mom they are not legally here either. So in a few years they are in the world of hurt as well.
That is sad, but this is a piece of propaganda. They try to throw in tons of emotional parts to woo your hearts.
Base your opinions off logic. The woman knows she was breaking our laws by sneaking into the country, and now must be removed. That won't change no matter how many times they show her crying.
SHES CALLING FOR STTENTION ,SO THEM FEEL SORRY FOR THEM ,HER MOM CREATE THIS ,SHE CALL THE COPS NOW ATTENT TO THE CONSECUENSE. LAFAMILI SE ESTA DESBORONANDO POR SU CULPA.
@@ethan3986 showing the struggles of real people isn’t propaganda buddy. It’s called REALITY. You are the one who got desensitized by the propaganda garbage of Fox News and dumb right wing media.
This whole situation is completely unacceptable.
As soon as she returns to her nation of origin she will feel much better.
Ugh. We all have too much time on our hands.
I don’t feel sorry for the adults that make bad life decisions, I feel bad for the children that endure the results of those decisions.
Tell me more, about how heartless you are.
She’s heartless really,really
@@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438illegals are criminals
If she called the cops most likely he was putting hands on her.
Pochely: That’s not what she said. She wanted the police to basically calm him down. Bad idea.
At least he didn't get shot on site.
Women call cops on men all the time when there is no physical contact. They use the police as their own personal intimidation tactic because women are always given the benefit of the doubt in those situations. I suggest when you're not a citizen and you have a gaggle of children to not call the cops on your husband for yelling at you.
@@volcrazy89 vice versa
@@volcrazy89 100%
Sad but they made wrong decisions and I only feel sad for the children, for having parents that don’t take advantage of a chance to make a better life. Coming home drunk, having children.
Are you kidding me? Admire the mother’s strength to carry forward for her family. People go through mistakes but they do not deserve to be punished their whole life
Adan Fernandez five kids? She brought five kids into this world knowing she’s poor and illegal and in a volatile situation and she should be commended? Are you insane? She needs to go back to Honduras.
I'm an immigrant here I have mi wife n 3 kids
I'm smart enough to know that u have to respect & NOT be stupid to get in trouble because I know that my family will pay t PRICE
And I'm bless to have the opportunity to live in this country where there is a lot of work opportunities for immigrants
Bru u slow
I empathize with you, this is a very bad situation to be in especially with kids. I wish you all the best. Praying for God to deliver you!
Same, up to "wish you all the best". In my opinion though being religious and hence having a lot of children adds to the problem, rather than resolving a situation that started with bad decisions (choosing an illegal lifestyle).
@@Pondvids everyone might think that the problem starts when they came here and i dont believe thats thats the issue totally , the issue comes when they start to misbehave in our country, and instead of growing as persons, they get all drunk and causing trouble and disrespecting rules, I know many people that dont have documents and have done so good here , they pay their taxes and have grown so much that are example for others, own homes and do actually better that some americans, they became bilingual and actually do volunteering in activities to serve others, so i know coming here illegal is not the issue to be worry about but to be here and not to be productive thats the issue .....
@@gused82 I understand what you stated. You do realize coming here ILLEGALLY is a crime itself? What is the USA supposed to turn a blind eye? You mentioned illegals doing well and I'm truly happy about it. But why the refusal to get citizenship? I'd really like to understand why?
@@sharon22669 because in many cases getting full, legal citizenship, even if you already have family living here, will cost thousands of dollars they don't have, and about 24 years. Yes that's right, to get citizenship in America, from Mexico, it will cost more than 2 decades of your life, don't forget that sometimes American Immigration services sometimes misspell you're name, and tell you to start over again, and pay them more money.
This is why, this is why people south of the American border come here "illegally" because it's been made nearly impossible for a poor person to do it legally in a timely and affordable fashion. So you maybe now can see why say someone who lives in Mexico, who has a sick relative that needs taking care of in America, might not wait to do it legally, because nobody on earth has that amount of time. Especially if their life or a loved ones life hangs in the balance.
@@gused82 judge not because none of us here are perfect
The husband has no papers got in a fight with his wife, had him locked up and now the poor children should suffer because of their parents that cannot control themselves. I am sure it did not go much better than this before the pandemic at their house. Then the mother wastes time and money on him daily by phoning him. I hope the children make better decisions.
The problem is they are have to many children's iam from Honduras is sad but please don't have more children is hard for them too
And learn the correct and proper spanish
And please go back to school and,, yyy aaa prende English, please
@Sara Ford that has nothing to do with speaking a very poor quality and vague spanish, is a cultural issue that could easily get better if they wanted it..........
That's all they do in Honduras, make more and more children's, you could see that on the big caravans that what going to the US, a lot of those women were already pregnant and with one or two kids already.
Edwin Ramirez every country has different ways of speaking spanish. There is no proper way. Even spain its self have different dialects.
And what happened to personal responsibility for your own life and decisions you make?!
Anna Pereira amen
Did you teach her good decision making? Do you have proof she had access to those resources?
@@alexandrianova6298 Its called common sense. Some have it, others don't. We are seeing example number one. She can afford cell phones, yet have no place to stay.
@@alexandrianova6298 resources? You mean a box of condoms from the drug store? Im sure she could have managed that. This woman isnt stupid, and she’s not a victim. She made choices.
@@alexandrianova6298 good decision making, arrive in 2009, five children later still undocumented. Domestic violence, she qualified under the U visa, plenty of chances, plenty of resources. Stop making excuses for stupid choices.
Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. She made all those calls and managed to get 6k from his brother, 9k from friends and 10k from a loan to put towards a BOND...... Why didn’t she ask the brother and friends for a little money and put it towards getting her out of the situation she was in...? If they were willing to do it that is...
and she was doing all this on a cell phone and the kids have laptops, if you truly have nothing, put money towards the basics first a stable home for your kids then try to Bond out the Husband, sorry this sob story is more self inflicted then anything else
@@jessicabareither2943 schools had shut down by then. maybe the laptops were from school so the kids could do online classes
disappearintothesea this could be true and I am not saying they should not have these things at all I am just saying if you are in such a tough spot that you have no home and barely any food those should be the priority! And what ever puts your children in a stable home first then other things can follow
Jessica Bareither I agree. Smh.
Exactly ,she rather have her man home and get all dolled up . But she could have gotten a place for her kids but no she rather have some d ...
I was undocumented myself for a long time. I finally became an US Citizen. My mother came in a tourist visa to visit me and was arrested in put in Federal Prison then deported back to Bolivia. She was detained for having a visa overstay. We didn’t know she wasn’t allowed to apply for a visa for over 10 years. Had she just waited less than 9 months none of this would have happened. May 31 2011 was the worst day of my life. It’s almost been 10 years and I hope to be able to bring my mom to the USA with me. I have no family here and it’s very dangerous for me to travel out of the country since I have a bleeding condition. These kids will forever be traumatized over this. It’s difficult being undocumented here which if why I took the legal steps in legalizing myself. I speak English fluently and try to be a good member to my community. I work hard and I am very grateful to be in this beautiful country. I hope this family gets help.
I am sorry for her and her children, I've been there for 7 years and wirh two kids, lost everything I had, but I never lost my faith! God will give you the strength and you will survive and you will be stronger, and I hope your husband learns to appreciate the freedom and appreciate you and his kids.
Still trying to go to America at this point is suicidal!
Well, life in south America sucks balls for most
Guillermo Peralta not our problems their not our citizens we owe them nothing sorry
@@octaviajackson6909 correct but
1. you like drugs ( we get the cartel violence)
2. cartels like weapons ( all cartels assault weapons are made in the USA, our underpaid police got killed)
3. South-America found oil (the USA stepped up to help that development, meddling through our corrupt politicians, the US has exploited that oil and polluted our soil. we can't refine it on ur own ( coincidence?).
4. the US could easily target the illegals by checking who buys cars, rets apartments, and works in the fields without legal ID. also could have made a deal to protect the routes and trains that helps migration. ( but how do you pay the retirement of senior in the USA, those low paid workers don't get benefits).
Sadly said, america still better than our countries in opportunity to do something.
I have more, but remember that seeing things from a privileged site gives you a different perspective. the BATMAN comics mention that life is not black and white, but a thousand grays.
it beats a full-blown civil war...
The most important lesson of this story is don't call the cops, and don't have to many kids.
Couldn't agree with you more!
you are right, as latinos we are so used have a bunch a babies and that is no is not right kids suffer, learn to use dame condoms, and yes call the police, no one has right to bring you down
3 is not alot
@@GO-nh6br She has 5 kids
@Sara Ford Well three of the kids were born here in America so she shouldn't have that problem here.
I pray they find a way to stability for children sake🙏🏽. So naive to call the cops on your undocumented husband. She killed his chances of any possibility of getting papers
My sentiments exactly. The kids seem so good and they don't deserve this. Sooooo dumb of the wife to call the cops just because her husband screamed. Why would she think they would just give him a little scare. The law enforcement isn't there to "pretend."
Please try to be more understanding. She would have been terrified of an uncontrollable, drunken man screaming at her. You never know which escalation will end your life. Just ask the thousands of women killed in domestic violence disputes every year.
She was right to call the police - she has 5 kids to raise. She can’t do that dead.
He was the wrong one in losing control of himself to drink. Let’s place the blame where it rightfully belongs.
@@girlyprincess1883 I appreciate your view. But she went right back to him. This is not a case where she was scared for her life . She said she just wanted to scare him. If her life was threatened, she should be fleeing from him not trying to take him out of jail. And she actually has six kids! I absolutely agree with you that if she felt threatened and he was that type of person with a prior pattern, definitely call the police!!
Nice IPhone. Don't feel bad for her . Priorities screwed
Yes! she taught, that she was in central America, but in the US is NOT the same.
I wonder how long before he gets drunk again and abuses his wife. I hope he doesn't think he has a free pass because she learned her lesson on calling the police.
The entire feeling changed when it showed she had 5 kids, the least educated are the ones multiplying carelessly.
Exactly how i feel when i see trump rallys on t.v
Well david, looking at your pic, it seems like your people kept it in the family over and over again. You guys can't multiply because there aren't enough cousins to go around.
@@ceciliacarver1311 lol
Very sad, but why keep having more children when you don’t have papers 😟
Because they think that will keep them here
@@dp7047 don’t be insensitive stfu
Didn’t know you were perfect lol
They hope the kids will get them papers one day.
@@gipszjakab7437 didnt know it was your business
I'm glad he's home!!!
They can leave the mistakes behind & MOVE Forward!!!
Wish this beautiful family the Best!!! 🎉🎉🎉
They aren’t going anywhere. She has way too many kids then she can care for, throwing out $25,000 to get him out of jail when she and her kids live in a seedy motel. And how do they expect to pay back that high interest loan? They won’t. The interest will eat them alive and they will stay in a cycle of poverty. She made a really bad choice borrowing that money.
Within the first 5 minutes, I was crying. This is so painful to watch my heart is burned with knowing that she and her children are on the streets because of this virus. I will pray for you and your family and look forward to more good news.
She got so many kids. When she immigrated to the United States, she already had kids. Then, she got here and instead of learning English and work hard to support her kids, she got a man and had more kids.
She is very ignorant, that’s the problem.
@@holaforistas As harsh as it sound, but the underlying issue.
Citizen of the world well said she don’t even have since enough to try to get legal status eventually she will be back in her country of origin
I'm just confused this woman couldn't come up with money to care for her children but she could come up with $25,000 to get her husband out of jail? Her husband here illegally and could be detained again? I understand she borrowed the money but she couldn't borrow money for the kids? Just odd that's all.
@LIVING as MYAANN The hotel was probably paid for under some relief program.
She can get her hands on 10 000 but is homeless
and it's high interest.. i'm sure that 10g will turn into 20g pretty soon. sad.
@@disappearintothesea You're absolutely correct about loan interest. They didn't have 10,000. His Lawyers probable set up some type of loan that they will never pay 1 red cent on.
.. she’s got a nice vehicle and a newer model phone. Hasn’t bothered to learn English. Wants “people” to help her!
Stop having so many kids, go to work, save yourself!
Bing Marshall Agreed
That pissed me off she actually came up with 25,000 but couldn’t come up with money for her kids to have a damn home! Just unbelievable
Hell, she got pregnant the night he got out of jail 😭😭😭
JET JET you know she did 😂 but forgetting both of them are still illegally in the United States
How
😂damn....she had too much fun
@@manasekabaye5128 spread it low and wide is how😂
It only takes Mexicans 4 months to have a baby 👶 their different 🤮
I agree with many of the comments being made. He and she had the opportunity to legally get citizenship, but they did not, and i find this to be a big problem. Many people come here, but they don't want to go through the necessary steps to legally stay here, but want all of the benefits. If you think so little of your life, and don't take the necessary steps to secure citizenship legally, you should not be entitled to any benefits, at all.
Also, they are not wearing masks, especially since they were exposed to someone who was Covid 19 positive. They're riding around infecting everyone, to boot, with no social distancing on top of everything else. No wonder we can't get this thing under control, because of irresponsible people like her. This story is sickening, and makes me ANGRY.
Ms. L. Churchill
Who paid for her daughters 10 day stay in the hospital? I know I'd have a medical bill for over 15,000 if it was me in the hospital even with my "great" medical insurance plan, that I pay 1,000 a month for.
les churchill amen they have no real reason for being here so becoming a citizen was not going to happen so figure have a bunch of anchors babies will save them from being deported they need to end birth right not one of them are a descendent of slaves
They riding the black ticket the 14 amendment said one of the parents have to be a citizen of the United States in order for those kids to be citizens and clearly neither parent is
@@brendastraley8829 to be fair, all children are covered by the government. A social worker really needs to place the daughter in the care of the state. I would even consider putting them all in foster care. Tragic family dynamic.
I’m sorry, but you’re very wrong. It’s not as easy as doing all the necessary steps and you magically get your residency or citizenship. Most of the time, these people get denied and they have to pay thousands of thousands to a lawyer to get a mere permit to work.
I am so glad her family's back together. I cried all throughout the video. A family should never have to deal with what they went through especially kids. If I would've been closer and knew about them, I would've offered them a place to stay, as cramped as we would be, it would make it so they wouldn't have to move around. I pray since it's been 4 months, they are doing alot better. Sending lots of love and hugs
all day had to do is stand up and fight are work to make there country better instead of filling sorry for them selves and running
I feel bad for the children and to a degree the mother but she is the architect of this situation. Then she gives her suffering daughter some ignorant advice to just leave it all to God. These poor kids are doomed.
You called the cops on him knowing he has a work permit and is under precedings.. girl get a job get a life and take care of your kids they will need it you get or obtain an adjustment status due to your situation to at least work ... it's costly but it's your life we are taking about.. that's why thank god I Don't depend on no man .. and if I did depend on a man I won't be calling the cops cause he yelled at me knowingI have nothing else... like girl that doesnt qualify for anything 🙄
Kim Rodriguez yeah idk the details since I wasn't there, but I don't understand why she called either. He wasn't attacking anyone. He was probably drunk cuz he was so stressed..... Under normal circumstances idk what I would do, but given their situation I wouldn't have did that. It must be more to the story.
@@tacosanddutches9878 she's not telling the whole story. He was probably getting physical.
Yes stop judging what happens behind close doors is a different story
@@dolleyes5 Then she should tell the entire story. Because otherwise, the story she's telling makes her look like a fool.
I kept wondering why she didn't work🤷 Hispanics/Latinos literally rule all temp agencies..she could have been working the next day!🤔
I live in GA I'm an immigrant here I have always respected the laws & never been in trouble I have a family of 3 kids but unfortunately some ppl don't understand that being immigrant in another countryif u take bad decisions your family can pay t PRICE
Not all immigrants are from Mexico.. lol
I currently just graduated from my university in Cali having immigrant parents from different countries. They both attended universities at different countries and when they arrived to the United States they shut the doors on them and Could not continue their careers here. My mother decided to stay the extra months because she got pregnant with my second sister, lost her visa, and hasn’t been able to go home after 20+ years. She came from interning at a prestigious national bank as a recent graduate and found herself working 12$/hr hour part time jobs in the United States. I’ve personally been wanting to leave the US as a US citizen because I’ve experienced injustice in this country. I’m optimistic about the career, but corporate America is a boundary.
@Surtsey TT Not all immigrants are from Mexico.. lol
I currently just graduated from my university in Cali having immigrant parents from different countries. Both my younger siblings are pursuing degrees at prestigous universities in California as well. Both my parents attended universities in different countries ( Many Americans these days aren't even willing to pursue a 4 yr education) and when they arrived to the United States they shut the doors on them and could not continue their careers here. My mother decided to stay the extra months because she got pregnant with my second sister, lost her visa, and hasn’t been able to go home after 20+ years. She came from interning at a prestigious national bank as a recent graduate and found herself working 12$/hr part-time jobs in the United States. I’ve personally been wanting to leave the US as a US citizen because I’ve experienced injustice in this country. I’m optimistic about my career, but corporate America is definetly a boundary.
@Surtsey TT don't say OUR border as if you own it, your family migrated here too and this land was never yours to begin with so stop being hateful. You are speculating that he is undocumented, I NEVER ONCE READ THAT IN HIS REPLY, so quit it. Read it again and check yourself before you stick your foot in your mouth again in public.
Are you a documented immigrant or are you illegal?
@@arlamuyluna7048 most immigrants are not from Mexico. In my area in the Bay Area most immigrants who are undocumented are from the Philippines, India and other Asian countries. But, most Mexicans here are permanent resident and most of the Mexican people were here 4 generations before the civil rights movement so, I assume that 95% are American born.
As a parent you can't relay on the social worker to get you $ for the hotel, she needs to get hey behind together and get a job. She is just causing stress on her children. What does she mean leave yo God, please lady wake up. I just feel sorry for those kids. She is responsible for what she is going through.
Very easy to say...
She doesnt have a work permit I assume so its a lot hard since jobs ask for socials and stuff, many jobs for immigrants are underpaid and require long hours away from her kids as welI
Being undocumented he shouldn't be engaging in any behavior that could get him in that position. She called the cops knowing he was undocumented and then all this crying. They both should do better for their kids. I have no sympathy because this was a mess of their own making.
Frontline focused on the abusive husband’s immigration status (he should be deported) instead of focusing on the plight of innocent children brought up by a submissive, abused woman who goes into further debt to release this jerk from detention. She needs help (as in a battered women shelter) and so do the poor children. And she needs to be introduced to contraception! No more kids!
There is a visa for people that faces domestic violence, if there is a police report, she should be able to get it for herself and her kids. Not sure why they did not mentioned it or what is the whole story.
God bless this family and all the ones going through the same situation! I pray for you all!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
the arrogance of these people. they have no legal right to be here or to work here. then they complain. they even have kids here. then they complain.
Linda Smith truth hurts?
I'm sorry but America is a nation that from the start of it, has had immigrants that have came to this land for a better life, you wouldn't have the things you have if your ancestors wouldn't have immigrated here in the first place. This land was also stolen from colonizers, so don't think you have any legal right to be here as well.
Yixingzz _ lets suppose that this land was Mexico’s. You can genuinely say you would want to live in Mexico?
i cant imagine how they will be able to afford to pay all these debt they have cumulated. unfortunately, seems like the best option for them might be to go back to their home country. they just need to start over seems like.
I totally agree. Seems like a huge insurmountable challenge for them business wise
@@hayaglamazonluxe just becuase you say they are going to go back 😂
Trust me, people from other countries don't go back, here in the states, everything is free. Who pays for that hotel, medical bills, cash aid, food stamps...
@@inigopetersen2486 i migrated legally from Mexico, and even with good education and a job its hard to keep up with taxes, medical bills, mortgage, etc. I understand not everyone is fortunate as we are, so our taxes pay for other people who cant afford to pay.
@@jorgegarciamex - it sounds like you are very compassionate, in reality, we can't afford to take in everyone.
Jorge, when I witnesses how someone from another country, with no legal status received full benefits and our veterans, who risked their lives, were turned away; I start to feel like something is just not right. This is why we have so many wanting to be in the US, but I also feel that if a person is unable to contribute in some way, but to deplete our economy, they need to go back.
Keep your heads up and like mom said "together you can overcome anything"
💜
Actually it was the daughter who was saying that at 14:47 if that is what you're referring to
It was not her responsibility to get her husband out of jail. She should’ve have left him there to do his time. She’s taking care of the kids and she got a roof over their heads. That’s all she should be concerned with. Not going into debt to get her abuser out of jail. Ugh!
This woman's impulsivity is the cause of the family's problems and will be the ultimate downfall of them.
Im sorry but she sort of “deserves” all of this. She has way too many kids, when she can barely feed herself and she THINKS the police in the United States of America would just give a “scare” no honey, this isn’t Honduras. The judicial system is incredibly harsh and expensive. She’s an idiot, now she’s $25,000 in debt has a bunch of mouths to feed and no place to stay.... I don’t think she DESERVES it. But she brought all this on herself. Best of luck tho. I hope she never makes that mistake again.
Things are bad enough for regular folks born here , using the cops to scare a spouse is pretty dumb and irresponsible . She mentions in the video leave it up to God and learn to live with the situation. That's the biggest problem. All this could have been avoided.
I hope you never find yourself in need. I really do.
All this did was make me more mad. I dont understand their situation. You had way too many kids that u cant support. U try and have a sob story about how hard it is. And in spite of it all, u get 25,000 dollars to get ur husband out that u put in jail???? All the while ur kids are suffering, daughter attempted suicide and u think thats the best option for 25,000 grand.!?! Yea dont get a house , job, stability for ur kids. Ur mother of the year!!!!
My biggest issue too, you come up with $25, 000?? get a stable home for the kids and then focus on trying to care for them, this is one story I cant feel bad for, the pandemic may have added to their problems but their bad decisions were already evident
i asked people why poor folks have big big families. They have nothing else to look forward to but sex. On top of that contraception is not used. Perhaps its a Catholic thing. A combination of poor judgment, poor planning, not delaying gratification, lack of financial education and opportunities make for such a cocktail as what is shown in the documentary above. The poor blacks, poorest of the poor of all races tend to make the same decisions.
That I agree with! She thinks more about the man instead of getting 25000 to help herself and kids. Specially her daughter that tried to kill herself.
25,000 I would have bought a place to stay instead of use it to get him out of jail..
@@marcela241000 hey, that medical is paid for by American taxpayers. Driving a new vehicle, soooooo sad, free housing, really feel sorry, they can't be bothered to learn to speak english, they've been here for years, doing the welfare thing.
Why doesn’t the mom in law help her but they probably don’t get along. Typical family drama problems 😑.
Exactly, the mother-in-law was in the hospital. Why couldn’t they stay in the house? The mother said she was infected also. They could have still stay in the house and she could have quarentined in a separate room.
2b4evermusical like I said typical family drama/friction especially since that’s the husbands mom 😑🤷🏽♂️. Sad, some moms see their son as an angel no matter what.
Mother in law not happy with her
Family planning is a good thing. It's inexpensive and creates less stress for the entire family.
That would not be a solution for families with children though. I don’t think you understood the problems these families are facing currently.
Family planning also requires access to birth control, sex education, access to health care, etc. for it to work.
Well if you mean by “family planning” as to murder her children in their current situation then that’s a great solution.
They are blended family. Are you asking her husband to give up on having his own children?
@@someonewhobitthedust9124 "access to birth control"? Don't try to feed me that lie! EVERYONE knows what a condom is and what it's for. They're cheap AND available EVERYWHERE. I'm sick of the excuses!!!!!!
I hope the man and woman get along better and the man never drinks again !!
Hispanic men are obsessed with alcohol specifically vodka. They go for hard liquor not beer.
@@jilianemorales2074 OMG, so true.
If poverty taught me anything, never lose your home. Obtaining housing is the hardest thing to get even through social services. Even if you might lose your car or lose out on food those are more easily obtainable than a roof over your head. Food banks exist public transportation exists.
PBS you need to help them into a hotel for an extended amount of time in exchange for you letting them tell they story.
I Agree
Umm, shouldn't she b accountable to take care of her own family and not expect everyone else to do it
You say this like you know they’re not helping. We don’t know what help families get by frontline.
I agree. PBS could help them in exchange for their story.
This broke my heart. I hope things get better for the fam, pouring my heart to you 🙁
Keep calling the caps for revenge it was the mistake she made.
Martin Ojeda you’re right now that open up a case for immigration for both of them she buried them
Sad but true.
this EXACT situation happen to my cousin. Now he's back in mexico after being deported and wishes he never got into an argument with the girlfriend... He says being in Mexico is like being in another world😑 im thinking not a good one😜
So lawyers are being paid,social workers,doctors,medical personnel,hotel employees,bureaucrats all by the taxpayers for this dysfunction.
Would it be better to just kill them? Would it just be better to kill all those leeches like the elderly, disabled, families on welfare, and veterans who are sucking up all our hard earned money? I really hope you are not a Christian.
@@MyLady22 The elderly work and paid into the system for years . So they earned whatever they getting.
Not necessarily. SSI also pays out to elderly immigrants who became citizens who never worked nor paid into the system who arrived too late in their life. Let’s not forget about elderly mothers who never worked because they were stay at home moms back in the day. Or elderly disabled who never worked due to mental or physical issues.
Linda Harris amen say it again they confuse citizens with illegal immigrants
MyLady22 and the ones that came later in life and didn’t put into the system deserves nothing hard as people work retire or medical conditions have a hard time accessing their money
She put her husband there- for being drunk. Can’t sympathize
Maybe this will make him better.
At some point people must take responsibility for their actions...
My heart is completely broken for this sweet family. I thought people weren’t allowed to be kicked out if they couldn’t pay their rent or house payment during Covid ? Also, why isn’t an agency trying to help this family have a roof over their head and food?
You can't be kicked out for non payment, however you can if you're breaking other lease agreements. 3 people who lived near me made that mistake, used their unemployment to party , didn't pay, and eventually 2 teens were shot in that mess. Yep they got evicted. Not for non payment though.
She didn't make rent in January. Therefore, she lost her place prior to COVID. Further, if she had gotten evicted no landlords are going to rent to her now.
Mother are the greatest gift on earth. Strong, tough, and will do anything for their family. Much love to all the strong mothers. Keep ur head up
I was raised in a family of 18 women. Your statement is not true at all. I've been stepdad to three kids for 21 years. I separated from their mother 12 years ago. they are all adults now and we have a daily relationship. They have almost nothing to do with their mother. Many mothers are useless crap to their children and are best serving a sideline or nonexistent roll.
@@mapexzildjian6361 I said much love to the strong mothers. Obviously not every woman should b a mother.
Tears....
@@nowidive3475 ...harshly stated but yeah, dat bout sums it up.
What a disgrace what we have collectively allowed to happen to our fellow human beings.
Completely agree
It's horrible what has happened to her. However, she bears about 70% of the responsibility for it.
They have tons of tax payer resources to get by and care for the ridiculous amount of children. They make bad decisions. This is their own damn fault. The only victims are the children.
The United States isn’t worth it anymore, tell your amigos, vamonos.
Yeah this guy in office is the best 190,000 dead, worst economic crisis since the great depression. He ruined this country but hey at least there like less mexicans I think.
@@dickgoblin B4 the pandemic the economy was the best ever seen in this county. Lowest unemployment better than WW2 and now that we are reopening the country the economy is rocketing back except for cities and states ran by the dems. Oh but then their is Obama the only President in the history of the U.S.A. That the economy did not grow at 4% even for 1 year!! Gosh I wonder what condition we would have been in if Hildabeast would have been elected. Trump 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Ricky Barber you're such a mess omg.
@@rodleithner7931 you're also such a mess sis omg.
Bro It ain’t good for anyone. Tf is going on with our country 😕😕😕
My heart breaks for the children.
Her husband has been in America since he was 11. What was the reason for him not to become a citizen while he was herte for over 20 years? Who pays for the 10 day hospital stay for the 17 year old? If my daughter even with our medical insurance went to the hospital for 10 days I know I'd be paying a 10,000 or more medical bill. Who paid the medical bills for the birth of her 3 or more children she had in America?
Been here for 11 YEARS and still doesn't know English!!!!
If the son were to learn English he would have an advantage because he's white looking & his name is Walter💁♂️
@Giselle Perez While you can survive on the margins without it, all of the better opportunities in the US are in English. The medical exam, the bar exam, the CPA exam are all in English as well as the college courses that prepare you for those opportunities are only in English.
In as much as my heart filled with joy to see them back to gather as a family, I'm kinda worried sick about the money that she borrows from the loan shark and how she's gonna repay that huge sum of money. Plus, kinda wonder what kind of job she and her husband would be able to get a hold of as they are both illegal immigrants. This is kinda crazy.
She's never going to be able to repay it. And she said her husband worked in a restaurant.
Sadly if the father has a drinking problem, not even this consequence will change things. His addiction, or tendency towards violent habits needs to be dealt with before they lose everything again, maybe even their kids. She may be co-dependant and this could be a reality check for her. These dysfuctions may cause the children to have issues of their own, whether they live in Central America or not, it will go where ever they go. Hopefully they can get involved in a good 12 step program. Hitting bottom will drive people to get help. I recommend Celebrate Recovery because it has helped me with co-dependancy, there are many places to get help. I hope they find one.
Maybe construction making 40 dollars and hour
You’re worried about it? Smh. She’s been here how long and still can’t speak English? She and her brood need to go back to Mexico
My mother came to the US over 60 years ago from Mexico and worked hard to become a citizen legally. It was a struggle for her but she did it. I thank God for that because I was lucky enough to be born in America. The law is the law!
wait a minute she could come with that kind of money for his bail but not for a place to live?! i feel sorry for andrea itś alot for her to go through as teenager
This is because of the wrong choices she made. Now the kids have to suffer due to their bad choices . I wish the kids well and good education. We all go through stuff, at least she has a car, her kids have phones etc. Don't blame it on being undocumented, it's the choice you make, we all fall and get up back, that's life. Good luck lady and your kids. ❤
I wouldn't be surprised if the car was put up for collateral for the high interest loan. if that's the case she won't have it much longer.
It’s not easy with 5kids. She has to be strong, patient and never to lose faith. May God protect you guys.
I feel bad for her and the children, but it’s also annoying seeing how many children they choose to have knowing their financial situation..
Having children you can’t afford is why there is no empathy for these undocumented. No empathy for family separation either.
She's in the US since 2009 and still haven't learned English.
truly annoying and I speak 4 languages!!! and I am American 100%
@DANNY Cruz lol why you live in a foreign country. At least try to assimilate.
@DANNY Cruz no tiene education ninguna
@SUGAR DOLLAR DADDY BBC yes and i haven't met an indian yet who didnt speak english so whats your point?
I don't understand this about hispanic immigrants its annoying.
They are under so much stress. I feel for this family.
Y'all are judging her for being poor with children like that isn't common. 🙄 but if she would have terminated the pregnancy ud be mad too
Poor while driving a much nicer, new car than I've got.
I used to be a caseworker, it's complicated.
Yes it’s very complicated. Before I took sociology I would have thought like any American- that it is all her fault but it really isn’t.
@@MyLady22 The fault absolutely lies with both adults!!! Quit with the excuses - they came in illegally and that's on them! I'm all for helping those who want to help themselves, but not when they start by breaking the law!
Did you know that you can come into the USA legally and then become illegal after you over stay your visa? Some people are not as fortunate and educated to find out how to renew their visas or to become a citizen due to culture/language barriers. They don’t know how to navigate the internet nor have emails. No you don’t have to sneak into the USA in the middle of the night nor climb walls to get into the US. You can get a visa and walk right in LEGALLY. You act as if immigrants are the only people breaking the law. That is another stereotype misconception.
the cost of a visa USA is $ 4,000
MyLady22 you saying that to say what come legally, leave when your visa is up and don’t use the back door their problem is not ours not knowing the language or laws is something they should research before deciding to come here not us telling
When he get drunk again he will doing the same and maybe worst !!!
no doubt.
Sad but true
Anger is costly! God bless this family!
I hope the gentleman is Covid free and some semblance of peace and normalcy come back to this family 🕊
Heart wrenching. I’ve been homeless but I didn’t have kids while going thru it. This is rough, no judgment here. 🥺
we are all responsible for our own actions and achievements in life. while some create success others just drift in life waiting for external subsidy. i am responsible for my own life if i did not get financial stability i should not blame others. you can fit anywhere in the world if you are a hard worker and think responsibly. i have not brought more kids to this life simply because I can't afford it. others should do the same. we can't expect society to pick up the bill.
I like your delusion! That people can go through life in complete control of very factor, very event, very emergency, and other people behavior. WE ARE IN THIS WORLD TOGETHER. WE EFFECT EACH OTHER. I'm a stranger to you and vice versa...the moves I make in my daily life effect you some way some how.
@@cutthechicken194 your ancestors decided to build their own life control as much as possible. otherwise you wouldn't exist. if you want to solved others problem just call that family and taken them home. otherwise shut up. i know you dont really care to subsidize them. so quit your bitching
@@cutthechicken194 There is a concept of risk that you are not understanding. Yes, bad shit can happen to anyone. She put not only herself at risk but 5 children as well. If you keep making bad decisions sooner or later you will run out of options. Right now her choices are bad and worse.
They don't give one fuck about affording kids these people would get anything coming from the gov.
5 KIDS?!?! 5 Freakin’ KIDS!?!?! Like WHY are you having SO MANY freakin’ kids with marital problems?!?! The oldest daughter is cutting herself, and who knows how the boy is doing at school... Hey FRONTLINE! How about a 10 years later report on how they’re doing?! Just curious to see how much of a contribution those older kids give back to society. You know, other than becoming a single teen mom living off welfare and a dead beat dad that doesn’t even pay taxes. 🙄
And I am sure after hes being in jail more kids came 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅🇱🇷🇧🇷
The Catholic Church strictly forbids contraceptives and believes abortion is a sin equal to that of murder. Latin America is majority catholic
My gosh 5 kids damn 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
The poorest people have the most kids
@@saveyourself8798 playin' the odds
@@JamesThomas-pj2lx i know that's what they do they hope one makes it big sad thing is that never happens
Poorest town in the country is Kiryas Joel in upstate NY. Everyone has 10-20 kids, all on welfare. It is run by religious extremists who speak only Yiddish in the home. They are Americans but choose not to teach English to their kids. Children read religious texts all day and don't learn basic math or science. This educational neglect prevents people from having skills to leave the group. These are born and raised... Americans.
@@mlonardoxu Wow, sounds like a cult.
How do people who aren’t legally allowed to work able to afford a large SUV,housing and kids in the suburbs?
I do not feel sorry for them at all, they made these choices. They alone have caused this stress on their children- no one else but them. These parents are hurting their children alone - they are not immigrants they are illegally living in this country. “They” are breaking the law, “they” have placed their children in a terrible situation- no one has done this to them “they” have done this to their children based on their choices!!!!! They are not doing right for their children.
They have a beautiful family & I pray they are richly blessed in this new year 2021. 🙏
That's a very difficult situation. Hope everything went well.
We all need compassion for these children especially 💔
Izzy Bee their parents need to have compassion for them not us. We have our own children in need that are United States citizens
@@octaviajackson6909 so just because some of her kids aren’t us citizens we shouldn’t care for them? What a disgusting way to think
I’m crying right now. For the past judgment that she took for caring for herself. She stood her grown. With consequences that she didn’t realize affected her future. My ❤ breaks for her and her children
Why do y’all keep having kids if you’re poor.
We have America citizens going through homeless and worst you can’t help the outside if your house isn’t in order
WTF...impregnating a woman without being financially stable? Now the wife and kids suffer.
Yeah I have 3🐶🐶🐶,and I am citizen 😅😅😅😅I have brains 🇱🇷🇧🇷
May God look after that family and keep them safe.
I hope that all the US Citizens that lose their homes from foreclosure will be subsidized to live in hotels or temporary homes as well.
So let me get this straight. She called the police on her husband because he came home drunk and yelled at her. The police come and throw him in jail. And it is not her fault?
Danny Mofer that is her personal choice.
If youre in America you have to be strong.....you went there dreaming for a better future.....go for your dreams with a tough spirit and be ready for everyhing that might comes your way!
People with big dreams that want to succeed don't have 3 or more children before reaching their dream. Unless their dream is to be a successful parent and that takes money. Am sorry if this sounds rough to some people, but it's the truth.
@@brendastraley8829 thats a good family planning Madam.....youre definitely right!😊👍
America is for everyone but not everyone is for America
America now with all the pandemics and wildfires......only the toughest of spirits survives!😃
p l amen they don’t have respect for this country and expect the government to bend backwards for them
Everyday I am thankful my parents were responsible and only decided to have 2 children after immigrating from Mexico. We didn’t have a lot but always enough. If you are coming here you are already accepting that sacrifices have to be made. Why add more children to an already volatile situation.
I sympathize very much....but why are they still not speaking English after all this time!?. And historically I believe when husband gets home, more babies thus perpetuating the problem......and the poor eldest daughter has too much on her plate.!
Why is that your concern? It’s her native language. Judge elsewhere
That's my question, too!
@@AdanFernandezMusic , to be used in her NATIVE country / land. She wants American benefits, she needs to learn and adjust
Well you’re in America why are you speaking English from England? Why can’t you use your own American language.
Adan Fernandez she’s in America and English is the de facto language.