MGS5 - Ep.22: [Retake the Platform] - No Traces / Perfect Stealth
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- The enemy commander extracted with almost no one noticing it and without neutralizing anyone else.
Episode 22: Retake the Platform from Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain.
No Traces / No Alerts / Perfect Stealth / - Rank.
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RULES:
1) Perfect Stealth / No Kills / No Combat Alerts.
2) NO TRACES bonus requires:
- No CQC (hold-ups are allowed)
- No direct physical contact with enemies, like kicking or bumping into someone
- No weapons or bionic arm attacks
- No support weapons, including empty magazines
- No attacks from buddies
- No rank-restricting equipment, like active camo
- No supply or vehicle drops (calling in the chopper is allowed).
3) EQUIPMENT:
- Enemies have maximum level of preparedness against covert actions
- All enemy equipment is left intact (mines, cameras, helmets, etc.)
- My own equipment is fully upgraded with all bionic arm upgrades unlocked.
4) As an extra challenge, when dealing with enemies who are not the mission targets:
- No hold-ups
- No distractions
- No suspicions raised [I failed this one at the end; it's nigh impossible to extract Mosquito without anyone seeing it (never mind hearing), unless you do it in the mist]. - Hry
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"Don't make noise and try not to be discovered" ... PEQUOD SCREAM: BE CAREFUL BOSS!
when I was playing this, I got detected and everyone was hunting me and out of nowhere I passed the mission. I believe the commander threw a grenade which just bounced back at him and he died 💀
lol for real? 😆
@@oakularoregon6623 yeah a lot of other people had the same experience
This happened to me like 5 times
On my first run of this, I got caught, but it ended up working in my favor. The position I was in was right under Mosquito, so when they tried to bomb me, they ended up bombing Mosquito and I succeeded in the mission without really doing anything. It was pretty funny.
The same exact thing happened to me today haha
@@AdityaYT lmfao same here too
It happened 5 times for me
At 1:58 one of those precious MGS moments where you absolutely don't move and just thinking in your head "go away, please, go away" ^^
"Don't move! It can't see you when you don't move"
I was on a pipe but thankfully the enemy couldn't see me because I was above them. It was funny and scary at the same time.
The most difficult mission of this playthrough yet. Randomized enemy patrol routes + permanent alert + unevenly shaped structures with lots of holes in them make for a nasty combination.
While it's possible to quickly move through the 1st platform while soldiers are attacking the chopper, and 2nd and 3rd platforms have enemies with predictable routes, the final platform is an absolute nightmare. There are tons of opportunities for the enemies to spot you while you're climbing the pipes and it may take minutes of waiting to find a good opening.
Unlike all the other enemy commanders I've encountered so far, Mosquito never investigates the noises himself and always sends someone else to do it (even small noises, like footsteps), so I couldn't have lured him away from the top of the platform.
I failed to avoid raising a suspicion at the end (10:46), when the soldier on the other side of the platform briefly noticed me and saw me extracting Mosquito. I think it's nigh impossible to extract him during the day without anyone seeing it (never mind hearing), unless you get extremely lucky or do it in the mist. You can either wait for the mist to occur naturally (it happens once about every 10 hours) or use mist parasites. I didn't want to wait or use the parasite suit again or play at night, so I made an exception for my "no suspicions" rule here.
+prenatual This mission is a pure nightmare actually, and its weird but after doing differents strats, my best no traces attempt was around 5m:52sec. What I noticed is the faster you go through the first 3 platforms, the easier it will be to reach the top of the final one. Because it seems the longer you take, the more they start doing annoying patrol route.
+prenatual thank you so much for referring to this as a "playthrough" im getting so phucking tired of people naming playthrough videos, walkthrough or let's play to bait more views, you get a thumbs up just for proper terminology : )
I call it "Perma-Caution" since it's really supposed to be called "Caution Mode", seriously. But yeah, excellent facts. Stupid lazy-fuck Mosquito can't even investigate a freakin' squeaking rat without ordering another to go to it for him. >_>
mosquito who is he because there is in event it the FOB called mosquito legacy
I have saved the mother base map in my mind because i am FOB professional and who want to challenge me lol I won't give you my ID SO EASY💪💪😠
1:52 "Hey is that a foot hanging into that pipe?"
"Nah, these guys must just have some weird architechture."
And that’s the moment the staff realized the boss is no joke
I love the inclusion of old MSF staff in this mission.
8:40 happens
Prenatual: *impatient screaming*
Damn, you sure have a lot of confidence sneaking around with the Battle Dress in the middle of the day xD
This is amazing, epic, cinematic, so enjoyable.
Was one of the hardest missions for me. But at the same time the most fun. I spent hours marking everyone when I first played it, checking every corner on every platform.
Man, you are simply amazing. Can you offer any general tips for players who want to be better at stealth?
+katmaster39 What kind of tips do you want to hear? I'm genuinely curious, because I have no idea how to answer your question.
Personally, I never had a goal of becoming better at videogames. I can understand when people from a professional multiplayer scene do that, since improving your gaming skills can win you some real money there. But in single-player games? They are all about you and your enjoyment.
So if you want my advice: stop worrying about being as good as someone else and just play at your natural level. You'll enjoy yourself much more.
+prenatual Well, it's not that I want to be as good as other people, I just genuinely want to improve my general play in this game. It's all self-fulfillment for me because I've got no competition to beat and I've only got people to look up to like you. I don't think it matters but I'm just 15 and video games are my life for the most part. So that's why I don't see any reason not to get really good at video games since it's the one thing I "waste" my time with constantly as others put it for me. In terms of tips I wanted to hear, I usually get caught unexpectedly around corners and such because I wasn't able to mark the enemy beforehand with my binoculars so I wanted to know if there was a better way. Oh, and what are the visibility ranges anyway? I know that Snake is practically invisible during the day at 20m and farther when he's prone but I only have rough estimates for when he's crouching and upright. Anyway, thanks for acknowledging my comment to begin with.
+prenatual I don't mean to reply again before you but I wanted you to test out this strategy for mission 40 cloaked in silence. I have a video example of the strategy on my channel. I wanna know if it actually works because otherwise I wanna try and see how I can fix it.
+katmaster39 If you have problems with marking enemies use D-Dog, he can mark enemies through walls 80 meters away. D-Walker also has an automated marking function, once you upgrade it.
The visibility ranges during daytime and while staying still: 65m while standing / 45m while crouching / 20m while prone.
While moving you are visible at 65 meters while either standing or crouching.
I don't remember the values for nighttime. I think they are 35m / 15m / 10m or something like that.
About your video: it's great. I don't see any need to improve it.
+prenatual If this is not good advice, then I don't know what is. Furthermore, katmaster39 please keep in mind that practice makes perfect and prenatual spent hundreds of hours distilling the perfection that he shares with us. When I first started street fighter 4, I could not perform a single fireball. But I loved the game, so I kept at it. Just keep practicing and experimenting bro. And remember, the point of perfection in any sphere of life is enjoyment/love.
And nobody notices the human tumbleweed rolling by?
I really love your playstyle, you must be the best stealth player probably ever!
You videos inspired me to do a no alerts, CQC, kills, distractions, gadgets, guns (except on the frogs) run through of the first act of mgs 4. I know it's nothing but I really enjoyed it
Anyway thanks I love watching these videos as just an example of mastery!
You are very skilled, just watching you made me better at stealth.
I would be scared af if you infiltrated my FOB Even when I am present XD
AAAAMAZINGGGG. THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST, BOSS.
What are your thoughts on the game overall, prenatual? Did it live up to your expectations - both as a Metal Gear Solid game and as a stealth ghost run challenge? Are there any changes you wish had been made?
+SYL Ben I liked it a lot. I haven't played any previous MGS games besides Ground Zeroes, so I didn't have any particular expectations, nor did I care much about the game's story or the drama surrounding the developer studio and the publisher. The aspects that I care about the most -- freedom to play as you choose, the mission variety, enemy reactivity to your actions -- are pretty much the best in the genre, and that's all that really matters to me.
The things that I wish were done better are the AI (which can be very inconsistent at times) and difficulty (selectable difficulty levels would've been nice, because the game becomes a bit too easy once you unlock some powerful stuff). I talked more about it in the comments to the first video, if you're interested: czcams.com/video/-_b0O-139BQ/video.html
+prenatual That's why the end of the game is the way it is, it isn't right, thanks Konami, but the original plan was to have selectable difficulties for each mission. So, at least he got some of that realised.
dude your vid make me laugh so hard how easy you do every mission, I know how much struggle you've been through to be this good but at the end you are the real BOSS! GG 👍👍
the oil rig in mgs 5 phantom pain reminds me alot of the big she'll in mgs2
Well, I think this guy treat the game as a game. He thinks like an ethical hacker, imo. He knows the blind spots really well and to conceal himself when the enemy is near. Also, he knows the basic of neutralising/capturing the final target.
Thanks for reply. I watched your suit only for absolution and there was not many people who done the barber shop suit only! Look forward to your walkthrough.
You're pretty good. Thanks for sharing your video!!
impressive gameplay. you've earned a new subscriber :)
you are so good with keyboard !!
Great stuff!
Thanks for the tip mate👍
thankyou, this is very effective
you are good at taking advantage of limits of AI :p
Lannister ...
Great Video :D
+prenatual Thanks, you made my day. :)
Lol that rolling was like a never ending thing
I know I did myself a HUGE favor by not expanding the r&d base to this point. I'm not that great a stealth/metal gear player.
HOLY SHIT! THAT WAS AWESOME!
Very late to be making this comment but my first play-through was the easiest thing ever. I went up the stairs and interrogated a guy all by himself and got the commander location. He just so happened to be standing and the ledge of the R&D platform roof. A quick sniper shot to the head and the mission was over in less than a minute.
After hours I finally visualized the commander, then I died. Im going to have a good sniper with me next time and just try to takeout the commander. I usually like to systematically remove every enemy one at a time but it’s just way too hard.
Nice trick with the box +prenatual
You really are the best!!
Wow I thought you were not allowed to use a box period if you are going for the no traces bonus. I suppose I interpreted the rule of "you can't leave a box" as "you can't unequip it". Good stuff prenatual, but why were you wearing the battle dress? Wouldn't the squares camouflage have helped here?
+The “Giant” Midget Camo is borderline pointless in this game, so the suit doesn't matter much. Camo only slightly reduces your visibility when you're crouching and not moving, and only during the day. In all other combinations of stance/speed/time of day it does nothing. Since I was crawling or rolling 80% of the time and using the box when I was crouching, it would've been of no use to me here.
+prenatual camo doesnt' work while prone or crawling?
+KvltKommando No. I never noticed any difference.
+KvltKommando While Prone and Crawling, there's always a set distance that the enemy can see you, I think it's 30m when crouching and 10m while prone, but those are at night. I'm not sure about the day distances.
the first time i did this mission i fell off a pipe on the 3rd (or 4th can't remember if i had it finished at this point) platform, with only mosquito and two other dudes left, because I got spotted and panicked. i died and have never climbed a pipe since
Ah, I knew this one will give you a hard-time.
Pretty good
1:55 lol
Those gys are the msf the old big boss's army how destroyed by xof before 9 years ago its really good details that tells you that some of them survived and some are lost in Africa
Super impressive
amazing, was wondering if could do it cause I had to kill a couple to get to the target
Hi 👋 What kind of computer graphics card?
I failed this mission and they stole Malak from me. I replayed mission 10 to get him back, and then realized I had no desire to continue playing this game. but I forced my self to trudge forward. You have a self masochistic streak to have figured out you can wait in a box for five minutes halfway up the platform. Kudos. I faile drhis mission 10 or 12 times having maxed out r&d before starting it, and I must’ve lost 40 employees doing this one mission. I’ll never play another mgs game
I notice you use Noctocyanin frequently, do you know of a good way to farm the Haoma plant?
+PlayRough089 I think the fastest way to farm Haoma is to successfully defend FOB against high ranked invaders. That can give you 200-300 units per victory. At least, that's best result I've seen.
You can also earn it through combat deployment missions (500-700 units), but they have a low chance of success and appear very rarely.
+prenatual I found some on the animal conservation platform (in the zebra pen). Does that already count as part of your resources?
You can also grow it in your conservation/petting zoo platform, along with other plants.
by any chance do you have a twitch channel? i would love to see your real-time playthrough
+D3STINY22 I don't use twitch.
prenatual Create one, now.
@@Aminsx_ I demand it
im sad that you wont come back and make new videos!
I enjoyed Death Stranding so much, time to re play MGSV again!
I actually manged to do the same as this. Except right at the end where I shot mosquito with the revolver (it meant I didn't get perfect stealth, but it felt damm good)
nice lannister mother base right there
Hi prenatual I have a question. You mentioned that even in the daytime snake is invisible while laying down from up to 20 meters and 10 meters if you hunker down. Now let's say you use a lower level character than snake, say an E rank soldier, would that affect your stealth capabilities? If not then how does deploying as a lower level character or higher level character affect gamepla? (And I mean just with regards to rank not the special abilities like gunman and stuff)
You’re pretty good
Impressive are you going to do the new metal gear when it releases?
You're pretty good 👈👈😺
Your video was very good, sir. I however used a sniper rifle and picked off the commander from afar to end this mission quickly. I had no patience to restart the whole mission over and over. But I thank you anyway for making this video!
This mission was a pain in the ass to do
This level is the most difficult in this game to "No trace"
I wonder, is it stressful when you try to do no traces gameplay and always something goes wrong? or do you learn it fast? Does it take you long to make an episode with no traces?
Just one question: What suit are you using? seen that a lot but i don't know about it
Why didn't you use the Sneaking suit for this? The mission was hard as it is and the sneaking suit would give you some kind of edge without having to think about noise generation. The battle dress makes too much noise even when crouch-walking.
+qsqua The main problem here is the visual detection, not sound. That's why I was prone most of the time, and crawling/rolling is already completely silent, regardless of the suit.
I can see only one instance where the sneaking suit would've been useful and it's fairly minor (2:00-2:25). So it's no big deal.
And btw, Battledress makes as much noise as any other standard suit (6m while crouching, 8m while running, 15m while sprinting).
Hello prenatual,
Do you have a website with all the informatino you give? "6m crouching, 8m running, 15 sprinting" and "ennemies don't notice you in the box if >4m away + no move.
@@prenatual
It would make sense for the theme of "Big Boss" putting MSF troops back in their place tho, especially in the GZ sneaking suit.
But I see what you mean, these guys seem to have the sharpest eyes compared to the regular jabronies; if only their stats reflected as much :/
Ur a god amon men
This looked so hard lol I had it so easy 😭
Is it just me or do they seem to hone in on your position?
+Chris Hsu No, they all follow predetermined routes.
I fired the launcher from the starting point of this mission and it finished within 30 seconds. 😂
So how dose the "Platform" or Base work? I never played this game but who knows maybe one day will cause it seems neat.
lol, when I did this mission I just went in there and did some john wick action with a pistol
What are your thoughts if any on the New 'Hitman'?
+darell fairbank Looks very promising. Absolution's AI and graphics + big non-linear levels, like in Blood Money, sounds very good to me. Beyond that I can't say much. I'll have more to say when I play it.
+Prenautal When are you playing Hitman?
How much time do you have played every mission?
Yo know every movement of every enemy soldier
Why battledress?
It would be awesome seeing how you deal with FOB btw
My first play on this mission, i fell into the clip and can't replay the mission so i lost 4 staff hahahaha..
Ffs i thought this was the happy birthday cutscene so i engaged the platform and enemy killed me
It's always bugged me the majority of the time with a stealth player is spent laying down, even on a metal platform, it just feels awkward.
Gundemon479 the detection system is built for natural outdoor environments. I agree that it's jarring though :/
Hey, I'm trying to platinum the game on ps4 and I can't help but notice that in the end,it doesn't specifically tell you what rank you got.
My question is,does it not count?
Because there's a trophy where you need to s rank every mission.
Is it needed for the trophy,or just optional
This mission doesn't have a rank in it so it doesn't count for the trophy
Talking about AI, what stealth game you think has the best one?
+marcokerti A lot of people rip on it but I thought Deus Ex: HR had pretty good ai.
I liked that their cones of vision were actually on their eyes and not just the direction they were facing.
Once alerted however they could do some pretty stupid shit.
+mrshreddy It's a good example. I think however that we should distinguish stealth games which focus on the fact that you can hide behind something like Hitman or Deus Ex series and games like Thief, Splinter Cell or MGS3 in which you can use shadows or camouflage as a stealth technique.
+marcokerti Depends on what you mean by "the best".
Individually, the most dangerous enemies I've encountered were in Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. The game never has lots of them (usually 2-3 per room), but it uses them in smart ways, so that sometimes even a single guard can be a challenge to avoid.
Individual enemies in Hitman: Absolution are not very dangerous and can be easily tricked when they are alone, but they become brutal when they work in groups. And these groups are unusually large (10 people or more) while the environments are pretty small, so that the density of enemies is probably 2-3 times higher than what you see in a typical stealth game. That's the main reason the game is so bloody difficult. Also, the game designers paid a lot of attention to how various noises and events affect enemies, so that if your playstyle is focused less on killing and more on AI manipulation (like mine), the game offers a lot of depth. Overall, I consider Absolution the hardest stealth game I ever played.
In terms of pure entertainment, I think the AI in Batman: Arkham series is better than both of them, though. Enemies in Arkham games are very easy to defeat, but their reactions to player's actions are extremely varied and hilarious. They are very well written, acted and animated, so that fighting them never feels boring, even when they don't offer much resistance. They also have different psychological states that affect their behavior in interesting ways, which I think is one of the few real innovations in stealth games in the past 6-7 years.
+prenatual I definitely agree. Splinter Cell on Expert is a great and unforgiving challenge especially in the Bathhouse. Absolution was tough because it demanded a strict route that often needed trial and error to tease out. Arkham Asylum was the perfect mix of power yet vulnerability when teasing and trapping foes.
+prenatual I expected that. I mastered the Splinter Cell trilogy along with the Hitman series and they proved to be very challenging. It's true that Arkham has the smartest AI overall, but the game is not a proper stealth game. Would be cool to develop a game with the Thief level design and Arkham's AI.
do you have some special item developed that targets enemies so fast? like some level 7 super elite prosthetic fingernail? lulz. im serious though. it seems like you highlight targets really easily
All of that... Just for me to take all of them out with the maxed stun arm lmaoooo
Why is my mission 22 diffirent from everyone's else? I can only land on one place, the R&D plattform and then have to climb to the top of it.
Hey I was wondering what happens if you don't rescue your staff? I didn't want to get caught so I assumed that they would get rescued even after I extracted the commander. Nobody got killed but I am not sure if my men freed them behind the scenes.
Like without really showing it to you.
First time I got lucky, just had the second platform created so when I was deployed, just went right, got my sniper rifle and waited a few seconds. Mosquito went to the ladder and got headshot
At the end of this video, why not use the camo paint that makes you temporarily invisible? Not equipped?or just didn't feel the need?
Because it's basically cheating and making the game more easy than it already is
before i looked at your walkthrough i did my own. i get to the commander pretty quickly. the only difference was when i got to him i chocked him out then fultoned him. i didnt get no traces. this game isnt about no traces its about The Trick Bonus. did you try choking him out first
gamingwalkthrough102 did you use some weapon or cqc?
gamingwalkthrough102 what's your channel?
How do you stay so calm playing this game. I cant calm my nerves when I play. What's your secret?
this is next for me, where are the checkpoints on this pls ? couldn see any saving on video
i loved this friggin game. until the end when all u get are drawings of what was SUPPOSED to happen..
How do you get the waterproof box?
If I was snack I would jump out and swim 100+ m so I max stealth as the helicopter make lots of sound and the chopper don't need to be shot up to get that close
YOUR EMBLEM IS GOOD I MADE IT$$
you play so good i wonder how they don't see you when you try too pass near them i try so much they see me so easy even when i try to do it like you I don't know why i pass and sneak but they see me
Great but why did you feel the need to wear that Battle Dress?
1:54 MGSV in a nutshell
What is the suit that you are wearing?
2:00 xD
Prenatual could you do a 100% play through like this with cutscenes?
+supreme594 Not interested.
I'm sure you could find several playthroughs like that elsewhere on CZcams.
1:05
*cue batroll'd song*
Man, these bastards came to MY base and you think I am gonna stealth it up! Please. I dropped off and one guy came where the chopper dropped me to investigate, I put on a box and he ran past me, so I cut his throat. Then, I ran up where a few were gunning down the chopper and I took them all out, ran to cover when their comrades realized they were dead, and I went to the light switch panel, I turned it off, and waited while they came to turn it on and I picked them all apart. Call me a coward if you wish haha.
Nice job though.
Edit: Not sure if this is another base take over, but the one I did was some guy who knew Boss and wanted revenge. I interrogated him.
they meant business this time