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- In this video i will be going over the airman/airwoman selection test and some tips to help you through it
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Note that RAF recruitment circumstances can change and this video may be out of date in later months and years
When I joined in 1966 I had to go to some camp for 3 days of test, exercise and logic. At 15 years old the first test was getting there by train!
When I joined the RAF back in the Neolithic period the recruitment criteria were slightly less stringent. A mirror was placed closely in front of the candidate’s face. If it steamed up, you were in.
With your positive and enthusiastic attitude, I believe you will be a valuable addition to the RAF regardless of the specialty you are in. Keep up the good work😉
Got my ast tomorrow! These videos are super helpful, all the best mate 👍🏻
How did you get on?
How did u do
Hi guys, I’m also an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
I’ll be covering the entire application process on my channel too, which I think may interest some of you.
I posted my first video regarding the DAA, and I’d appreciate it if you could let me know if it has been helpful.
Thank you, Vivek
I deeply appreciate this series you have put together. I have applied for the mechanical engineering role. I find this first video very helpful - I cannot wait to go through the rest!
Best of luck mate
Hi guys, I’m also an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
I’ll be covering the entire application process too, which I think may interest you.
I posted my first video regarding the DAA, and I’d appreciate it you could let me know if it has been helpful.
Thank you, Vivek
I completed the AST, interview and my medical. Just awaiting a fitness test. Likewise, the lockdown has halted things for me.
We will get there though!
Good luck
Was your AST and interview on the same day?
Waht did u wear for the amplitude test
Hi guys, I’m also an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
I’ll be covering the entire application process too, which I think may interest you.
I posted my first video regarding the DAA, and I’d appreciate it you could let me know if it has been helpful.
Thank you, Vivek
@@viveksapphire think you’re a few years late fella. Already served over 2yrs 🤷🏻♂️
To be honest mate. In 2009 the RAF was booming. Recently, it is a terrible place to be. Managers and the generation have changed it so it isn't about the people anymore, it's about themselves. People are being promoted for things outside of work, not for their actual job in their respective roles. There is a massive lack of manning, in most trades and this is due to people leaving voluntarily because all the benefits are being taken away.
Going away is fantastic, the officers are great and they're trying to make changes, but it is poor because people will not let go of the past and use the 'back in my day' line. What doesn't help is there's no way to check that people are going with the times. So it actually doesn't change.
Another thing about people doing stuff only for themselves. Bases fight eachother. Officers want to impress saying 'i have sorted out our problem' but this is due to the fact they shift it somewhere else, and if the SNCO's are 'Yes men' you screwed because they'll take jobs on from other units to look good infront of people, the officer will look good but the JNCO's and below get fucked over. It is all about individuals and they'll only do something for themselves, especially when it's not them doing work.
I love the people inside the RAF, i love the job. The negatives is promotion is flawed and managers are not on the same plan as there's no way to check it. And trust me, some managers are awful.
My work in civvie street (Royal Mail) is much the same as you describe the RAF but with no contract, no subsidised accommodation, no adventure training, no courses, no pay rises, no promotion, etc so the RAF is still a massive step up for me when I get there. Plus the Royal Mail is not a bad civvie employer by any stretch of the imagination
@@lordracula2461 They have frozen pay rises and continue to do so. Adventure training can be done but is very limited unlike what the AFCO tell you, funding nowadays is zero. You will be able to go to museums etc but the old stuff like paintballing is 'a waste of money' Courses are good, but it has to 'benefit the service' I'm not putting or trying to put you off, this is the truth. Accomadation is good depending on where you go.
@@Ash-gy3if I meant pay increasing with time served in rank not rising with inflation, but yeah i know what you mean. Doesn't put me off any, it's still a far better opportunity than what I've experienced up till now in my mid 20s
Sounds just like the Army
Cheers mate I’ve submitted my application this has been really helpful
how long till you got a reply with AST date?
@@alrossi9981 I applied start of the year and am only doing my ast next week
@@alrossi9981 took about 3 months for me mate but it depends on the trade i have my ast on the 3rd of june rn im just trying to find all the best content to revise
@@user-bj2pc3it2v Hey, did you find any good revision content? Currently looking for good revision myself
@@LazerSpart yeah are you talking for the ast or the interview?
Thanks for this, I am booking my AST soon. I am a little bit concerned for the maths parts and the memory but. I am very good at work rate and verbal reasoning and the electrical stuff.
Ive got mine booked for next week this is my third go hope third time lucky. 🙏🏽🙂 great video
@Dan Hurford they had to reschedule mine for december now due to covid unfortunately.
Glad I found these, applied right before corona; everything got delayed. Helpful vids!
In the same boat
@@paulblades2561 you heard back yet? I did last week but only for documents and interview over the phone! Still no ast or fitness tests
@@ethannicholas5285 yea I have my ast booked in next week
@@paulblades2561 Good to hear they are running again; Interview for me first then AST next hopefully! Good luck with your ast!
Thanks my bud
Good luck with your application fella. My OASC has been delayed too, not ideal but we’ll get there.
I was supposed to go april 8 but i got my application delayed because i am under 18
Cheers mate, turns out I've actually done it the other way round coz I applied not long before lockdown when things had just started to change so I've kind of done it back to front as I did my interview first and soon heading off to do the ast this week, so will be good to see how it goes.
How’d it go?
@@meganwithers1560 passed the fitness tests and everything, however i vwd on the exercise at the end and joined the army instead as a comms spec, I pass out of phase 1 next week.
@@JacobThomas-wk7bb im a bit late to this but can i ask why?
@@corvus2189 why I joined the army instead or why I did it the other way round?
@@JacobThomas-wk7bb why you withdrew and joined the army instead
I thought on that test there was no pass or fail, it just showed them what you are best at, thanks for telling me there is a pass or fail
Top lad, Im awaiting my application response so have some RAF airman AST books that I am using which are completely invaluable. This video was also very helpful, and if I get in to the RAF, I will also be doing a youtibe series on the steps to get in. I was going for the Weapons systems operator role but previous asthma when i was younger precluded that despite my good fitness. Going for the Aerospace Operations Specialist now so hoping my first in my geography degree will help.
Sean Wilson could you tell me what AST books you've been revising from ??
@@Vaguereli Certainly: type in "The Test Series RAF Airman Tests book" and itll come up straight the way for you
Good stuff! I applied in early June and still awaiting an application response it's mental. I've applied for Intelligence Analyst Linguist but I hope they get to you quick lol
I'm going for the sane role good luck
how long did it take to get a reply and date for AST ?
Thx ive got my AST in a few days
Cheers, pal. Just what I was looking for.
Thank you James, very helpful x
Look forward to your next video when you finish your 22 years.
Thank you, this helped a lot!
There’s no way I’m gonna be able to join for anything 😭 I have tried once but was only able to be a chef which is not what I want to be doing.
Recently, I did my cbat for officer and had the spacial reasoning as the final thing. My brain was so fried and I struggled so much on the 3d shapes.
Hi guys, I’m also an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
I’ll be covering the entire application process on my channel too, which I think may interest some of you.
I posted my first video regarding the DAA, and I’d appreciate it if you could let me know if it has been helpful.
Thank you, Vivek
Applied today, fantastic video thankyou!
I found I got lucky on this test. As most people get nowhere near finishing sections, its based on luck as to whether you guess the right answers or not to boost your score.
INSANE!!!! ur so young here, now ur an oldie
Is he in the raf now?
Cheers mate! Got my AST tomorrow. Excited but nervous
How did it go? What specific bits should I revise mate
@@jackdoubleday1763 It went quite well I got my specific trade I went for. Id advise you to revise spatial reasoning as I struggled massively with that and also electrical comprehension such as circuits and bulbs etc.
Got my AST next Thursday, I've been doing lots of revision and mock exams. Hope I pass 🙏
How did you do?
@@joachimoyalegan6573 Just got my results today, failed unfortunately. Hoping next time (10th November) I'll pass 🙏
Love this mate
Hey, just wondering if anyone knows what to wear to the ast?
I’m not sure if this is too late but smart clothes and shiny shoes is a good way to make a good first impression
Can any one help, I got turned away from the army as I had a skin condition when I was younger which doesn’t affect me now. RAF says you can enter as long as you don’t have an active skin condition. Has any one had an experience like this?
I’m going for weapons system operator and I’m really hoping I can get that as I don’t really want to settle for less
Same for me, I can apply on the 13th. Wish you the best 👍
ive gone for that too
@@poppyrogers51 when’s your cbat
Hi there I was hoping you would be able to tell me what you wore whilst travelling to cranwell and the day of examination many thanks
What did you wear to the AST, would it be a good idea to turn up in a suit type of thing or is it acceptable to be in more casual clothing and is there a certain amount of points you need to achieve.
Sorry its abit late, I went in a shirt and tie, you will be expected to be formal
What do you recomend I wear, I got my AST on 30th, suit or normal clothes?
Do you know??
@@anthonydurga1242 Dress formally shirt and tie or suit
What does everyone wear for the AST?
I'm wearing black jeans with a long sleeved white shirt and formal shoes. I know people that have worn suits aswell as people who have worn polo shirts. Wear something formal to make a good impression, that's all. Hope this helps :)
Do you need swimming to join raf regiment gunner reserves?
Yeah u do
Really helpful cheers mate
Thanks for this very helpful!!!
In a couple of years I want to join the raf. I am a republic of Irish national and I was wondering if any of you are Irish or were in the raf with someone Irish. Are Irish people generally accepted by their colleagues as their own or not considering the history between the countries?
Liam,
I was in the service some time ago now, however, I served with lots of Irish blokes, from the North and also several from the republic. At no time did it cause any issues from my observations and experience. That being said, sadly, I suspect there would still be some animosity from certain quarters in the Republic of Ireland for someone from the republic serving in the forces of the crown. I wish you luck whatever you do.
Hi James
Please confirm if a booklet is given of the questions for each part of the test or if you are given an answer booklet only? TIA
You are given a questionnaire booklet and then a separate answer booklet
Great video thanks
Hi great vids mate, I’ve got my AST in 2 Weeks I was Previous Cabin Crew and gone for Air Steward role I’m apprehensive in joining as in my early 30s and not sure if the role is for me or will feel out of place, any tips / info. Thanks
Also do you know the pass score for this role? Cheers M
What is your day of your ast as I have mind soon
Just to be clear the AST and interview aren’t on the same day ?
They can be if you want them to be but they both can be on different days
Did my AST and Interview in February. My "Interview" was a group interview during the presentation.
Hey James i've got an AST in a week and this video was very helpful. But i was wondering if you knew any good way to practice for the mechanical reasoning section, as this is the only section i struggle in and would greatly appreciate any help.
I dont have many resources that can help with that but i would Reccomend trying the links in the description or even pick up some basic cog diagrams or water pipe diagrams and test your theory on them.
@@jameslawson3988 ok thanks
@@nasimali6480 do u want to be a mechanic
Is the test and interview on the same day?
What specifically is different with the Officer CBAT aptitude test?
I don’t see many Officer CBAT revision resources online so if it is different how can I be prepared?
Did you use any specific online websites to revise for your AST? My AST is on Thursday and I don't know what to revise
I have some resources in the video description
Got my AST tomorrow I’m so nervous 😬
Im at HMS Calliope tomorrow for mine. How did yours go?
@@matthewjamesshovlin3136 I failed at my first attempt. I got my second one next month on the 24th
What did u wear for it
@@nicolecooper8146 also ur in my ast test ! Mines also on the 24th x
@@nicolecooper8146 could we exchange socials or something itll be nice knowing someone going aha x
What would a good overall score be?
Around what score do you need for a pilot, is it higher or lower than average
Pilot is one of the highest, its also on a different test i believe
Hello James very helpful video. I applied to join the RAF just waiting for my AST. Can you please advice me where I can best practice for the test specially for verbal and numerical reasoning as the job which I applied for require good score in Verbal and Numerical reasoning. Any help will be much appreciated.
I would Reccomend the job test prep pack i linked below, there is also a site called mathsgenie and corbett maths which does gcse maths which is what you will be doing. I Reccomend working heavily on advanced fractions and also some formulae
Ahsan, there is also a small practice AST on the RAF website which could give you a better indication on what will be in the test. Best of luck!!
what was involved in the background check for the role of a pilot?
Im not sure, i didnt apply for that role
I have my AST on Monday, and I've been doing some of the practice questions on the preppack website and I've noticed they're a bit different from the example the Raf give. I assume the actual AST is closer to the Raf's version?
I scored high enough for my trade! Although it would appear that I will have additional interviews/testing..hmm...😥
@@chapersdm3342 Hi Dave, I have my AST on the Thursday. Any advice?
@@georgejenkins125 hmm...i'm not sure what to say, if you've done the practice one on the Raf's website it's pretty similar to that. We did it on iPads, so it works in the same way(they'll give you a sheet of paper for the numerical reasoning) so you're timed individually and you get about 3 minutes at the start of each section to read the instructions and a practice question (and take a minute to breath if you need (bare in mind the sections start by themselves)).
If you've done the practice pack linked below the video, I'd say the fractions in actual test aren't as complicated, and in the verbal reasoning you can pick out the information easier.
I did a set of questions from the prep website which was about a shop that sold fireworks which I answered using common sense instead of what they'd written. 🤷
@@chapersdm3342 Thanks for the reply. Congratulations on passing what trade did you go for? Did you do a lot of revision before hand or just wing it 😂
@@georgejenkins125 I'm going for intelligence (linguist) so I've got some extra tests coming, to ensure I'll be able to learn another language to fluency. Over the last 2 weeks I've done a bit each day, but nothing major, focusing on my week points (I did have to relearn fractions)
Hi, this is really helpful but i was just wondering if all questions are presemted on a screen or do you have some questions on a sheet beside you which can be anotated ?
The questions will be on an interactive whiteboard, you will have a sheet with boxes to tick or write an answer in on the table.
@@jameslawson3988 So the examiners have control over how long you spend on each question? Is that correct?
Thanks for the vid mate
I applied july 2020, still waiting on an interview
The RAF are non longer carrying out interviews for new Applicants. This process is skipped at the moment, and may be the very last thing you do instead, or It may not happen at all.
ive been told it is done online
@@matthewjamesshovlin3136 yea, had my filter interview 2 weeks ago, is done through video chat on microsoft teams
Hey man, hope you are well, my basic training starts on 25th jan, would you recomend and boots to purchase?
Do they not supply them?
Do we get any pen or extra paper for doing some calculation in the AST?
What's the officers test like
Hello, these videos have been really helpful. One question however what do you need to bring with you ?
If you have been given a date for your ast, you will also have been sent all the information about the test and what you need to take with you on your candidate portal. I believe when I did my test I had to take all my qualifications, a pen and my ID.
Hey James I applied to become an RAF Police officer, but I'm worried as I suck with maths, any tips?
And would you know the rough score mark for an RAF police Officer?
Hi James, is it multiple choice and do you get a set amount of time per question the the video automatically moves on or is it a set time per type of questions? Thanks.
Set time per type of questions mate
you said you struggled with the numerical parts of the test the most, what’s your maths like grade wise?
As someone who is interested in the Cyberspace role. Would you happen to know what your score was to pass to get into the role? Looking to know what to purely focus on. Thanks.
Luke Fowler hi, I wouldn’t recommend just focusing on one section. Revise, do the test and if your aptitude capability is to the level of the role you have applied for then it is meant to be. I understand how you must be feeling. I’ve applied for medic so I’m hoping my aptitude is good enough to pass for that. But I’m pretty sure for a cyber space role it will focus heavily on numerical and verbal reasoning. Every role has different weighting’s on different sections so it won’t really have much benefit
@@l-jy2653 do you know roughly what a RAF police officer would focus on
@@mrxbox007og most likely verbal, numerical, memory and work rate. But don’t limit your self. The mechanical and electrical sections are quite challenging if you haven’t practised and it will help with your overall score
How many marks do you need to be a cyberspace communications specialist?
Overall around the 70-80 score mark, there are two cyberspace jobs, one is partially qualified one is fully qualified main difference is one requires less points, you also need to have a certain amount of points in each section of the test
Josh, good luck for whenever your AST comes around! I completed mine as I'm going in for a cyberspace communication specialist as well. Been waiting to have a fitness test but lockdown has hindered me a bit. Complete the AST, interview and medical. Hopefully not too long now. We will all get there.
Best of luck again mate, just remember practice makes perfect
I'll be honest, I'm completely terrified that I'll fail immediately. I'm applying for an officer position soon and although I qualify I'm not nearly as qualified as some other applicants who have much higher academic qualifications than me. Would this impact on my chances of getting in?
I wouldn't think about it like that, the officers test is like any other test, you prepare yourself enough and you can beat it! As for the rest of the officer process i dont know much else im afraid
@@jameslawson3988 cheers mate
I did my CBAT test today. I was so close to passing for Air Traffic Control Seargant. But I just came short. Not sure if I should wait a year or do something else
Hey joe is the CBAT different from the AST? And how difficult was it?
Is it like a test you would do with pen and paper ?
Hiya bro wondering if you can help me, I have always really struggled with maths. I have my AST in 2 weeks but I am worried I won’t score high on the maths...my questions being, is the assessment designed to see where you’re at academically and what jobs you can apply for, or is it a real exam where if I don’t pass the maths I won’t get through to the next stage in the process? Thanks for any help mate.
When you complete the test you'll be told your scores. These scores will then dictate what roles will be open to you.
For example, if you want to be a chef, you may not need as high a score as someone wanting to be a weapons technician.
So if you score too low for your role, you can do it again.
@@kal5378 thankyou for the help mate. I am wanting join as logistics mover. Hoping I don’t need an amazing score on the maths to get in
@@Deleted11100 well good luck! Come back and let me know how it goes if you can, I'm still waiting for mine to be booked so would love to hear about it
@@kal5378 I’ve just came across this which you may find helpful.
Apparently for logistics you need 5/10 for numerical reasoning, 5/10 on verbal, and 50 on the rest of the test but I’m not too sure what that is. Good luck whatever you go for mate 👍🏼
@@Deleted11100 do you know the scores needed for the role of photographer?
Hello James it me again. So I attempted the AST and sadly couldn't get the required score as I got very low score in Electrical and memory test. Can you please advise how can I best prepare for memory test first part? Is there any trick to remember those letters. I am really sorry if this sounds a stupid question but I am really worried at the moment because I have got the resit in few weeks time and the only thing letting me down is the memory test. Any help/ advise will be greatly appreciated.
He’s got resources in the description or google the question
Good on my fitness but terrible on maths English 😅
Hello mate quick question the mocks are on the computer however is the ast done in Paper or screen ? And do you know
Roughly what score you need in it for regiment gunner ?
For the real test it will be on paper, as for regiment gunner the score is lower than the majority of jobs, it is a more attainable role so you will be guaranteed to get it as long as you keep practicing. Good luck 👍
What did you wear to it mate?
Just a suit and tie, anything from some smart pants with a white shirt and tie is fine
Hi mate , the link you provide, which is the best one for purchase? The book or the online one?
I have bought both, i Reccomend the online one more, it has more material and instant feedback when you finish it.
James Lawson thanks mate 👌🤟
Did you do your interview the same day as your AST?
got my ast on the 3rd of june if anyone is intersted and has any questions ill keep this up the date, also if anyone has any tips for revising or. links for help do let me know :)
Hey! How did it go and how is your journey so far? :)
@@Damian-ew8py hi mate was too slow over covid and changed my mind now joining the army for CMT and start basic in 2 weeks but still positive about the military
@@user-bj2pc3it2v I understand, best of luck mate!and Thanks for the reply. Hope you enjoy your training.
I applied waiting but am dyslexic so these maths and English things gunna be hard any advice plus did not do a GCSE paper
Just download a aptitude test app and it will train you on how to answer the questions just practice in the app Everyday
do you know how many marks you need to get a regiment gunner role ?
Gunner requires quite low marks on the test but if you score higher you will still be safe to be one
@@jameslawson3988 Do you know how many marks for chef?
Hello mate, do you know if you do not get the role you wanted if you can take the test again?
I've been in the RAF for 13 years as TG 4 ICT need any help give me a shout all the best to you buddy
Hi mate, I've just been given a start date at Halton for cyberspace communication specialist, (ICT Tech) I'd love to know how difficult phase 2 at cosford was in your opinion, and whether or not you get weekends off at phase 2?
@@STELIOS1000000 the instructors are very good a large amount are civvies there is a disiplinary expectation as you would expect in the military but if you stay on top of the essentials and look after your course buddys you will be fine. I found cisco hardest when I went through but the course is more streamlined to that side of the trade these days. The course will be fast paced and a lot of info you just need to get through it and then the real learning will happen on your first posting during tat A's and B's
@@whitestorm101 thank you Sir, sounds exciting. Do you get weekends off during phase 2?
@@STELIOS1000000 yes mate mostly there is the odd working weekend
Is the test and interview on the same day
I have my AST on 4 Nov...so stressed...I came all the way from Pakistan for joining RAF. Anyone know if the AST is tough
I just had mine today, it’s a bit difficult but don’t stress cause you don’t need to get everything correct. I thought I was gonna fail but i passed
If your struggling with a question just move on. You can come back to it later if you have time left
@@Nareknight thanks a lot I am kind of weak in numerical reasoning just scared that I won't get a good score in it
@@Nareknight was the numerical reasoning has a basic questions or some complex ones
@@lazyninja9569 it was a bit of both it starts off easier but luckily it’s multiple choice so you can have a guess if you don’t know. But don’t worry it’s not too bad just try the online test to warm up
Sitting my AST today 😬
How was it
Good luck!
James Lawson thankyou
Parmeshwar Singh I want to say it went okay but I don’t get my results till tomorrow so I shall wait till then 😬😬😬😬
L-J Y oh ok let me know how ur results go as I’ll be sitting mine on the 12th
Do you have to be an officer to be a fighter pilot or would that be under airman/airwoman
Yes you do
@@alexadams3851 ok thanks
@@walternelson6258 probably the hardest role to get into in
What role did you apply for
Is the AST the same as CBAT?
I believe not, i have never heard of a CBAT
CBAT is the computer based aptitude test completed in RAF cranwell. Where as the airman’s selection test is completed in your local AFCO
What is the dress code for AST?
Smart suit and a tie or smart casual
Thanks got mine on thr 28
What score did you get on the test to qualify ?
Depends on the role
Anyone joining sept 29th?
what’s the dress code for the AST anyone ?
A minimum of smart trousers shirt and tie. As well as smart shoes.
If you have a suit you can also wear that.
Leather Tutu and hobnail boots.