"Fan Dance" | World's Oldest Special Forces Test | Brecon Beacons, Wales
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- The Fan Dance is a grueling 24km SAS Selection test march staged over Pen y Fan, the highest mountain in the Brecon Beacons. The infamous march is the world’s oldest Special Forces test and is used as the first major indicator of whether a candidate has the physical and mental aptitude to complete the legendary Selection course. I was lucky enough to get a chance to take on this challenge, sponsored by Crossfire Australia. During the march, I wore a one of a kind, DG-3, and the pack held up great! Make sure to check them out if your in the market for a new ruck!!
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Thanks again for all the support guys. You guys are all awesome!!! 🙏 👊
Well done fella. Lovely weather there eh?
What bag he won?
Hi Gritty, first congrats on that achievement.
I commented on your training video for this event, unaware you had already done it. In that video, you describe the Fan Dance as 'one of last things done on selection' and, 'a real gut-check'. Actually, the Fan Dance is done at the end of week one of four weeks of DAILY mountain marches, in the FIRST phase of the 6 month long selection program! It is intermediate in regard to all the marches completed in terms of weight, distance and time. But its quite early placement at the end of the first week means in terms of wear and tear on your body, it's more favourable than most of the rest of the marches! I don't think you have sufficient understanding of exactly what UKSF (United Kingdom Special Forces) selection actually involves, and how arduous it is. I've added a note to show when the Fan Dance is done, note the proper context of the whole selection program!;
Here's a breakdown of UKSF (22 SAS and SBS selection)...
PHASE ONE
1. Aptitude; Navigation & Endurance (commonly referred to as Hills Phase) 4 weeks of DAILY mountain marches navigating by map from point to point against an unspecified time limit. Typical schedule as follows (remember, these marches are EVERY DAY)...
Week 1 15-20 km 40lbs weight+weapon, water etc. Fan Dance at the end of week 1
Week 2 18-24 km 45lbs weight+weapon, water etc.
Week 3 20-32 km 50lbs weight+weapon, water etc.
Week 4, Test Week; consists of 5 marches over 7 days
march 1, 2 & 3; 30 km 60lbs weight+weapon, water etc.
march 4; 35 km 60lbs weight+weapon, water etc.
THEN, 4 hours rest and start the final march; Long Drag; 65 km 70lbs weight+weapon, water etc. 20-24 hour time limit (weather dependent).
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PHASE TWO
2. Jungle warfare, tactics, navigation ALL LIVE FIRE TRAINING. 6 weeks.
Those who have passed phase one have to then pass jungle training. Training takes place in Belize or Brunei, deep in jungles. Candidates learn the basics of surviving and patrolling in the harsh conditions. UKSF jungle patrols have to live for weeks behind enemy lines, in 4 man patrols, living on rations. This includes yet more days of marches point to point. Jungle training weeds out those who can't handle the discipline required to keep themselves and their kit in good condition whilst on long range patrols in difficult conditions. Again, there is a mental component being tested, not just a physical. Special Forces teams need men who can work under relentless pressure, in horrendous environments for weeks on end, without a lifeline back to home base.
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PHASE THREE
Continuation; Foreign and new weapons skills, CQB training and testing in the world-renowned SAS Killing House where live ammo is used. Advanced infantry and marksmanship skills etc.
Escape & Evasion & Tactical Questioning/Resistance to Interrogation
The small number of candidates who have made it through endurance and jungle training now enter the final phase of selection. The likelihood of a special operation going wrong behind enemy lines is quite high, given the risks involved. UKSF want soldiers who have the wherewithal and spirit required to escape and evade capture and resist interrogation.
For the escape and evasion (E&E) portion of the course, the candidates are given brief instructions on appropriate techniques. This may include talks from former POWs or special forces soldiers who have been in E&E situations in the real world.
Next, the candidates are let loose in the countryside, wearing World War 2 vintage coats with instructions to make their way to a series of waypoints without being captured by the hunter force of other soldiers. This portion lasts for 3-5 days after which, captured or not, all candidates report for TQ.
Tactical Questioning (TQ) tests the prospective UKSF men's ability to resist interrogation. They are treated roughly by their interrogators, often made to stand in 'stress positions' for hours at a time, while disorientating white noise is blasted at them. When their turn for questioning comes, they must only answer with the so-called 'big 4' (name, rank, serial number and date of birth). All other questions must be answered with 'I'm sorry but I cannot answer that question.' Failure to do so results in failing the course. The questioners will use all sorts of tricks to try and get a reaction from the candidates. They may act friendly and try to get their subjects chatting; or they stand inches away from their subjects and scream unfavourable remarks about the sexual habits of their mothers. Female interrogators may laugh at the size of their subject's manhood. Of course, a real interrogation would be a lot more harsh and the subject would not know that they get to leave alive when it's all over. That said, days of interrogations and enduring the stress positions and white noise break down a man's sense of time and reality. UKSF are looking for men who can withstand such treatment long enough so that the effects of revealing any operational information they might have can be lessoned by HQ.
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This is 6 months in, successful candidates for the SAS are now badged and report to Hereford, the home of 22 SAS.
The SBS candidates still have a further selection/continuation phase to complete before being badged and report Royal Marines Poole, the home of the SBS.
Completion of this 6 month selection course is NOT the end. They then start SF training (which never ends) and for the 1st year in particular are on probation; they can be sent back to their original unit at any time.
It's a pity you didn't have more time here to do Snowdon. There's a challenge in North Wales that is freaking insane called the Welsh 3000s in which you bag every peak in Wales over 3000ft in a single day. No I haven't tried it because one of the peaks is Crib Goch... it's a terrifying knife edge that has claimed more than a few brave souls.
The SAS do this AFTER a full week of getting absolutely beasted on numerous long hikes with heavy gear, so they are already in bits BEFORE they do the fan dance. Simply insane...
Yep,,but we don't go in foot path's,,,ever 🏴
I completed this on Selection back in 97, carrying an SLR too. I failed the 4th March on test week. I was completely fucked. 2 weeks on Elan Valley sapped all of my energy.
Good effort man you tried 👍
@@robertozubeReally? I thought that the SLR had been completely fazed out by then. Could be wrong...
@@samuelgarrod8327 Old obsolete weapons were carried in case blokes got lost - an officer died when I did it , he was off route , we carried old Enfield . 303 when I did it , on the Elan valley phase , I saw one bloke lose it and beat the shit out the tussock grass with his weapon , so , current operational weapons were not carried , don't know what they do today . But yeah 97 would be SA80 . The Royal Marines just lost one in training .
I did my SAS selection ( Fan Dance ) in February 1977 aged 19 years old in deep snow. I got in within 1 minute of the time. Though considering the weather I achieved it. With an injured knee that 48 years later still plagues me. I only managed 25 days of the 28 days though for a 19 year old I was proud of that achievement. My injury meant I could never go back!
So you joined the army at what 17 or 18 completed your basic training passed out then posted to your regiment (assuming you’re army) then few months to a year later at the age of 19 you went on selection…..really? Lol😂
cant see it can you 😂@@kmac8854
@@kmac8854 You could join at 16 back then.
i call bullshit
@@kmac8854you only have had to have 2 years service back then to go on selection(dunno how it is now) and if you joined at 16 it’s not a unbelievable feat. He never said he passed 🙄
I am ex British Army and whilst serving I did the Fan Dance on a couple of occasions.
However, that was nearly 30yrs ago ..but, despite breaking my back in 2014 which caused nerve damage in my right leg and destroying my right ACL, I am still trying to strive to stay strong...The last 6yrs I have been fighting throat cancer (never smoked) as well, had 7 operations and radiotherapy..but again, soldiering on and not letting it get me down...instead, I have just restarted training and am going to enter the Fan Dance event in January.
I am glad I found your channel...its great...keep up the good work ..excellent information.!!
Thank you ...stay frosty👍
Best of luck mate. I'm ex forces and i also have done this amongst other endurance 'days out' on various god forsaken patches of land!
All the best to you, Sir! Stay strong.
@greghardman5064 - You're an absolute warrior mate, keep swinging that sword!
Did you do it in the end buddy? I wish you well 👍👍
Brilliant! An ex squaddie on CZcams creating content rather than pulling a confused face in a thumb nail and reacting to other people content! Love it!
It’s actually insane to think some of the real selection times are between 2-3 hours. With Bergen, weapon, already fatigued, sometimes worse weather, no watch on them .. crazy fitness and determination levels. That’s why they are SAS!
Just fit squaddies with better kit.
@@BarryBulsara576 They're more skilled, it's not just fitness.
@@Pilkie101 No they're not and yes it is.
@@BarryBulsara576so wrong. that’s why they don’t just take the fittest candidates and end selection there, it’s a 6 month process all to do with mental fitness as well as physical fitness
@@HDavies02 It's a fitness selection, hence endurance is phase 1 and carries on into the jungle. Even E&E is fitness orientated...Don't make it too obvious that you have never served and don't know anyone in Hereford.
I'm in the Mountain Rescue Team for that area - our twice yearly fitness test is from the kissing gate at the first little ascent, then straight to the summit of Corn Du (the peak you skirt around to the right before Pen Y Fan) - full rescue kit, all weathers, the muckier the better. Also something to bear in mind, it's only relatively recently that all the paths have been 'paved', before it was just muddy trails in rag condition. Well done and glad you appreciated the area.
Thank you. I grew up in a place called Halfway and went to school in Trecastle. My father served as a WW2 fighter pilot and worked at Sennybridge refuelling helicopters on the camp.
hay im a local, i climb the mountain all the time and always take the dogs up if i hear someones lost, is there anyway to volunteer for the rescue team or no, i mean at this point iv gone up and retrieved a few lost stragglers in the dark on my own and although yes i know the mountain like the back of my hand i think id be better helping a team
I did the Pen Y Fan 3 times in 1964 when I was training as a Parachute Regiment recruit. The 2nd time I went up the cloud closed in & we couldn't see a bleeding thing. Then I "sensed" the edge, got down on my hands & knees & crawled until I reached it. The trot down was easier after that.
Hate the way I look on camera 😂. Cool video bro and a pleasure to meet you. Sadly I didn’t make the finish as you know having to bail out at CP1 with a stress fractured heel that i initially picked up during build up training. Never mind I’ll be back next year… so far it’s 1 - 1 between me and the fan as I completed it in 2022… maybe see you then and you can beat your time from this year.
Hopefully I’ll see you on the next one man!!! I’m impressed you even still get out there and get after it, I hope I’m still doing that at 60!
@@GrittySoldierCheers Dan. It’s a long story but I nearly didn’t. I was once 300 + lbs of fat that couldn’t walk 500 yds . Now I’ve reversed diabetes, done 7 paras 10 loaded events (10 miles, 35lb 01:50 time to beat) a 40 mile trail ultra and a trail marathon and 2 fan dance events since losing my weight in 2018.
Before 2019 I couldn’t run a 3 mile jog 😂.
Ken runs a virtual event called Battle for the Golden road which I entered and completed last year, heaviest weight was 100lb lowest 25lb and the longest distance was 18 miles.
Got to keep going 💪. While the heel is healing I’m cycling a lot and looking at doing some 100 mile plus mtb rides instead.
Until next time 👌
Well done Sir! Like you said Its no joke!. I did the fan dance 4 times during my Army career and certainly felt your pain going up Jacobs Ladder. Just to note - the fan dance is the LAST test after enduring 4 weeks of 30+ mile timed Marches for SF selection. Again, well done!!
It most certainly isn't.its an increment test at the end of week one
@@grahamarnhem8659affirm.
It’s at the beginning of the hills phase. On mine in 1994 it was on day 2.
What are you on about? It's absolutely not the last event and is probably one of the easier days. You sure you're not a Walter Mitty? 😉
No you didn't
Did this several times while serving with 3 Para from 1965-71…. The final time (while serving in C Coy) as part of the selection course for 3 Para’s Patrol Company ((D Coy) in 1966 ..successfully passed and 5 great years with D Coy, ps I don’t remember there being any stone slabs built into the ‘pathway’
I did the Fan Dance in 1984 as I was over from 1st Batt on secondment. This was right after Grenada and it was a bollocks buster then. At that time it was to be done with a British Army bergen and SLR. Good times. I had to so that prior to working with the Regiment to learn counter terrorism SAS style. Also you had it right at Jacobs Ladder, head down and push through.
Well done lad but what you gotta remember the fan dance is a starting point for UK SF selection and is used as a test in week 1 - the lads who undertake it are young and have trained for months!! Your knees and back won’t thank you!! 🤣👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Well done,Dan! Way to stay gritty. Jacob’s ladder is no joke. You’ve got an international following,it seems.
Remember, SAS selection is a totally different animal. This is the culmination of weeks of beastings. Little food, little sleep. Many other timed marches, always with weight. Usually injured in one form or another. Bitter cold, snowing, or pissing down with mists and fog. As they say, "If it ain't raining, it ain't training."
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I was 10 Para in the 80's, then did 21 SAS selection. I can tell you now, they couldn't pay me enough to go back to that place!
Try the Black Mountains next, I thought they were harder.
Oh, and SAS and Paras don't use ANY of the trails. It's an instant fail if you're caught on one. To be honest, it's better grip on the rough. I've seen many a serious tumble on the tracks.
I take my hat off to anyone doing it, but in the end, the Fan always wins!
Well done sir! I applaud you and this is very inspiring for me. But the guy who finished in 3:12! Like wtf?
Love your intro to Wales video. Cardiff, Caerphilly and Brecon. Great castles and views.
Any plans to put a fan dance prep video together? Logistics, do's and dont's, stuff like that. Thank you
Do take a sarnie don't leave your rubbish
I'm the 'freakin nuts' guy at 7:40! 😂 What a day, thanks for documenting mate 💪
Bro is ZOOMING. Respect
Outstanding
Hi from Spain, I love your channel. Thanks for your videos.
I will be taking a walk up Pen Y Fan in a couple of weeks while I am in England. The last time i completed the dance was 40 years ago so it should be fun. Well done young man on your completion.
Great video Dan. We spoke briefly while eating after the race ( Chicken Curry which was gorgeous) I mentioned about different training methods. The only one being to live nearby. Take care mate, and maybe see you for the next summer edition. Edit: Great effort making that time, mine was 4.54. Must train harder 🤘
Watching this 30minutes before going back to the slovenian army basic training... tommorow well be rucking/ surviving for 3 days so this gives me alot of motivation. Thanks mann keep up the good work!🎉
How did it go?
Good effort, welcome to the Brecon Beacons and you’re lucky the weather was kind.👍
I took a group of Italians on this hike 30 years ago, 2 Bersagliari and 2 Alpini. Even they thought it was tough going.
Excellent! laughing at jacobs ladder, brings back painful memories from 2017! well done
All the rucks, the sweat leading up to this. Gritty good job.
Walking up pen y fan is fantastic. On a good day. Without too much weight.
I think the SAS selection benchmark is 4 hrs 10 mins for the 24km. And that includes coming back up and over pen y fan on the return leg.
So 10 mins per km. Carrying 45 lb, with food and water on top of that, and weapon. And it could be pi$$ing down with gale force winds. And you've already been beasted around the mountains every day for the previous week.
There's a reason this test wipes out approx 80% of selection candidates.
Love seeing so any older lads smashing this. Very inspiring
Passed you at the bottom end of the roman road, was a pleasure to shout a "go gritty" as we staggered past 😂
The whole thing felt like a dream, signing up and starting to watch you on CZcams to running next to you on the day.
Was an epic day, so many giving encouragement as we all struggled. Mad thing is looks pretty flat on the camera 😂
4.19 was blown away by that and was happy when you overtook on the final descent and pinch myself and said, that man right there is Gritty soldier all the way from America doing an event where I grew up and live.
Best day and thank you. 👍
what a great post, men doing mens stuff and supporting each other. proper inspiring :)
Did it 20 years ago and my lungs are still burning. It almost killed me because I refuse to quit when I want to challenge myself.
I made it back in good time.1 broken metatarsal later I still had to drive the 6 and a bit hours home.
Good times.
Great effort to all of you who tried it.
Good to see some old farts like me still doing it. kind of inspired to get my boots back on and get training for a second go at 50 years of age.
You rep our IBOLC class amazingly well bro, your a total BEAST! Surprised Ca’pin Selly didn’t meet ya out there to do it!!
Very well done mate. Great attitude and a solid performance. Tbh I think the rocks (necessarily) used by National Parks to reinforce some of the trails have actually made Fan Dance more difficult due to the footing. And whoever the 60 year old was he’s clearly a legend eh! Well done again, brilliant stuff.
For Gritty to call a bloke “friggin’ nuts” that guy must be mad.
Your strength and attitude is ever an inspiration.
Outstanding performance, as always! Well done, mate.
Awesome video Gritty.!I’m adding this event to my bucket list. My buddy got married in Castle Coch in ‘99. I was his best man. Good memories fromWales.. the rugby World Cup was on.. Watched Wales play Japan.. the atmosphere in the pubs in Cardiff were incredible..
Did that guy who won the ruck sack say he finished in 3:12? WTF?
Great work Gritty! Great to see you on the hills that day (I'm fellow participant). What folks shouldn't underestimate is the fact that instead of focusing on the route and event 100% like the rest of us you had to mess about with camera and think about commentary etc! Def added to the challenge. Tremendous result!
Right on. Best documentation of this event that I've seen on CZcams.
We’ve been waiting for this! Great job 👍 hope you enjoyed your time here in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
I did!
Cracking! Welcome to a Welsh summer 😂
🌧️ 😂
Halfway through your Ranger school program…this keeps me going. Exceed the F’ing standard
Well done ! Jacob's Ladder was originally rough rock which took up the ridge it is on and which you could not walk around . It resembled a vertical small quarry and parts of it had to be climbed up , no jogging for sure but an easy climb ! I think it was about 1976 when I found guys making a path there and diverting obvious water channels . Basically so many people were going up the Fan causing fast erosion .
Badass!
Fantastic! I've been looking forward to your Fan Dance video, GS! Congratulations on your achievement--RLTW!
RLTW! 🤘
@@GrittySoldier Congrats again GS--especially gotta hand it to you for hitting your goal (and selection) time when you had virtually no hills to train on (let alone a freaking mountain 🙂 Who's that monster who finished in 3:15!!! Guy's a machine! I also loved seeing all those old guys out there--I'm in my (early) 60s but I'm inspired to want to try the Fan Dance too! AATW RLTW!
Thanks for the video, this was great. The guy who got a time of 3:12, that is ridiculous, and he looked like he'd just completed a brisk walk lol.
Thanks for this video dude. I've watched it countless times in preparation for my Fan Dance which I completed yesterday in 5hrs11mins. I got to the halfway point around the same time you did, but my pace dropped off rapidly along the return down Old Roman Road and Jacob's Ladder. Once at the top, my focus switched to just getting back uninjured. Keep on tabbin' fella.
We Welsh love our mountains, have yet to do the Blorange and Pen-yFan. Mountain walking is good for the arthritic knees, and the stunning views are worth the effort. These mountains are tougher than what they look.
What view? I did Pen-y-fan with the scouts in the 80s, it was summer and mostly cloudy, it was low visibility and wet😂
Who’s silly enough to take Boy Scouts up Pen-y-Fan on a wet cloudy day?🤪
@@V.C.S69this was pre H&S , they took us caving, rock climbing, absailing, we were allowed to play with knives all whilst our instructors sloped of for a smoke!🤣
@@gb3007 …..I was born and brought up on the edge of the Black mountains range, the mountains were our playing field and dodging the adders (my pet hate). I was in the Brownies and Guides, we too went hiking up the Big Skirrid mountain in good weather, Pen-Y-Fan is a different kettle of fish to take kids up in bad weather.
Pen Y Fan is great at night on a clear night. I used to hill run there regularly. You'll think you're doing well when you get overtaken by a 60 year old running straight up. The old timers are just relentless. Humbling.
For SAS selection the soldiers are beasted to hell and back BEFORE they do the fan dance. Absolutely Insane.🙏👍
Excellent job out there. Proud of you man with all the preparation… Appreciate that you let us dig deep into it. Keep on pushing!
Great video, and a great time, well done! I completed the Load Bearing Summer Fan Dance in 2021. I remember Jacobs Ladder on the return leg being brutal, where it becomes a case of mind over matter. One foot in front of the other, don't stop, keep going. I had a finish time of just over 5 hours.... not the best time on the event that day, but the week after was my birthday, I turned 62. Total respect to our Special Forces who beat Pen Y Fan.
That’s excellent work, it’s brutal, and a bloody brilliant time at the tender age of 62.
Awesome work mate and it is really cool to see the spirit in which you did it and how humble you are as a person. Fantastic stuff.
Outstanding effort. Congratulations man 🎉
Outstanding job sir!
Great job and super inspiring!
Congrats and respect! Fan Dance is on my bucket list! 🫡
I've been looking forward to this video! It was a pleasure to shake your hand about a mile after the half-way point. Congratulations on a really excellent time, and I'm delighted you enjoyed your trip. You need to come back for the winter Fan Dance! It's arguably even more fun than the summer one!
Great effort. Love the encouragement and positivity.
Always fun to see someone experience the pain of that climb for the first time. Great job making time!
Fantastic job!
Flipping awesome, Congrats!!!
Dude that was awesome. As a former trail runner I totally get the pain. I've never done it with a 45lb ruck........
So cool to see you get prepared for and excited for the fan dance to you actually going and killing it
Finally... been waiting forever for this! 🔥
You're a beast man :) Awesome to see you tear it up and so great to see the love you get from worldwide fans. This is like a rucking version of the downhill biking Megavalanche down from high mountains in the Alps and and Andes.
You rock man, power on! Super motivating 🤘
I love Gritty Soldier and his honesty for everything. But I doubt some of those others completed the race, honestly.
Brilliant! Well done, great video.
Great job!!! I wasn't there but I could tell you were pushing yourself hard! Congrats on finishing with that time, and thanks again for your service
God bless!
Congratulations! Super job. Looks really intense. Rocky as hell. Cool to see the sights a bit. Very inspirational to me. I can't wait to do more training! Going out this afternoon. Have a great week.
congratulations man, you are a huuuge inspiration, keep it up!!
Nicely done Sir! That is an awesome accomplishment!
this was really cool and inspiring. something cool about bonding over a tough challenge
Looks amazing! Well done! 💪💯
This is awesome! You should do videos like this more, very motivating!
Great job Sir! Hope you enjoyed the trip.
Great vid Gritty, I really enjoyed meeting you out there in Wales. I've been putting miles on the new ruck doing your Get Selected program. Maybe see you at Bataan Memorial Death March? Good luck!💪💪🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Great to see this of the event, will be back for winter, hope to see you there!
Awesome job Gritty!
Epic effort dude, great video, inspiring.
Good work chap, it’s brutal, well done, great achievement. And for the record, it’s not just the SAS that have to do it, all Platoon Commanders, Pathfinders etc also have to complete it, but for the SFs it’s the start of a really brutal week.
Definitely a great inspiring video. About to turn 54 and getting ready for a 5k and did a run yesterday in the heat and hills for a small amount and my quads are just singing today...then I see you and a couple of folks over 60 doing the Fan Dance. Talk about "Oof!" Again...great stuff!
Impressive mate, well done to everyone who took part and did their best!! Not an easy thing to achieve!!
Great job! something for my bucket list.
Well done mate. I love that mountain and hopefully see you there again one day.
Thanks for taking the extra effort to film it. Great motivation!
Kicking ass Gritty! Thanks for your leadership!
Fantastic video and an incredible time. There must be a whole lot of people who fail that SAS time in selection.
What a day it was, great video dude 💪🏼
Congratulations on your success and accomplishments, sarge. Also, the same to all of the others who participated in the run.
That were reet grand.
Bravo, sir! 👏
Like everything else they do, it's a test of mental strength as much as a physical one. These little strolls used to be undertaken daily, each longer than the last. Bzck in the day it was also common for sickeners to be used to try to get the recruits to quit. A common one was for a recruit to have to remove his pack and carry the contents in their arms for a wbile.
Good effort, mate! Glad you got to enjoy the great Welsh weather.
Its always bloody raining in Wales lol. Enjoyed the vid!
Here we gooo! 🦾🦿
Another big fan from Wales. well done man SMASHED IT ....Tank
Well Done Gritty!! Welcome to Welsh, Wales! You did a Great Job! Good trip back home.
Awesome, well done 👏🏻
Well done! I was going to come and give you post-race doughnuts but my dog just had puppies :). The weather has been a bit rainy, typically Welsh :). Consider that 'leg day' for a week or two :)
Well done. Just under time too. Best wishes.