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- If you’re familiar with all four official NATO cartridges, you had to know this one was coming as the grand finale to our NATO cartridges series. The incredible 50 BMG - perhaps sometimes looked at as though made of unicorn horns and leprechaun dust - Ryan Muckenhirn explains the origins of this old beast, what its reasonable capabilities actually are, its many applications, and why you should have a half inch gun in your own safe for when SHTF. You simply can’t miss the one about the biggest of them all.
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I was in a heavy weapons infantry company from 2013-2019, I've heard every myth about this cartridge and the M2 Weapons platform possible. My favorite is it's against the geneva convention to shoot at people with it. Wrong, we do gunnery and shoot troop targets, and in afghanistan... yeah we shoot people with it. It works
You can get AP, API, APIT, SLAP and Raufoss MK 211 ammunition in the civilian market.
Yes actually I don't know about the Raufoss but all the other ones are legally allowed to own as a civilian
@@rcaygumicabk8072 You can get the Raufoss as a civilian if you want to pay $100 a round.
@@mariolaroche1975 oh that's what those are
They are all available in the civilian market. Even the MK 211 but they are rare. After FMJ, AP and Tracers seem to be the next most common.
I would be very interested in that 300 winmag, 300 norma, 338 lap, and 50 bmg discussion from service in the field against soft and hard targets.
The .375-50 and .416-50 Barrett are amazing beasts.
early 2000's you could get the spicy ammo and pulled projectiles yet. Wish I'd bought some just for the novelty.
I'd really like to see a 10MinuteTalk on the 35 Whelen. This is a fantastic cartridge for North American game up to and including brown bears. It's really surprising how much you can get out of the old ought six case. There are factory loadings that push 200gr bullets over 2900fps!
I’ve watched Keith Warren kill everything from African game to white tailed deer with the .50 BMG. I certainly plan on buying one
The p-47 thunderbolt had 8 50 cal machine guns
How about the p-38
@@vernonlarson7016 Depends on the model as it varied.
Also carried more rounds per gun and more rounds total than the Mustang.
@@vernonlarson7016 The Lightning had 4x50 and a 20mm Hispano.
Certain models of the B-25 and A-26 had up to 12 forward firing 50s. I've seen pictures of an A-20 Havoc with 6x50s and 2x20mm in Russian markings.
The 416 Barrett is way better for accuracy than it's parent case 50 BMG! And winner of King of 2 miles many times🤠
Yeah, a team tagged steel at 6000 yards and some change with the .416 barrett not too long ago.
Well duh. The 50 was designed to punch holes in tanks which, last I checked, are fairly large targets.
Been watching these podcasts forever and just noticed the SPAM collection
Fun fact when the 50 BMG was designed in 1918 it was actually designed to punch holes in tank and it absolutely would poke holes in WW1 tanks
I'm am lucky enough to have gotten to pull triggers on the Ma Duce...
Can you guys do a talk on .408 cheytac/ .416barrett
You guys should do an episode on the 300 PRC
You can get M33 rounds for about $2.50 a round.
You actually can set up a M2 as an indirect weapon system and shoot it over hills. Ask me how I know
Exactly what TM specifies the M2 as an indirect fire weapon?
@@infantryman7139 firing from defilade is a pretty common thing in machine guns. But you can set it up with mortar sticks the same way you would with a mk19. Can't remember if it's in a TM anywhere but we learned how to do it in Machinegun Leaders Course. I'm sure you'd be able to find it if you could get your hands on one of those manuals
🤣🤣🤣the stuff that blows up!!!!🤣🤣🤣AWESOME
Speaking of the Chey tacs dhould do one one the 408 as well as the 375
P 38 was the greatest fighter of ww2
would love to hear your opinions on the 10.3x68
Can you guys cover the 300 Norma Magnum in an episode? 😀
I wish you would’ve talked more about hunting big game or dangerous game with it
Why take a 50BMG when you are gonna be hunting dangerous game from a max of 200 yards. On top of this .375 H&H and 500NE are cheaper and wont obliterate the hide or skull of the game.
Its the same reason noone huntings with their m200 intervention which is in .408 cheytac. Its a precision cartridge design to shoot for MILES. You could use it but why ?
Because it's too damn heavy and unwieldy. The big bears, Elephants, Cape Buffalo, and big cats are usually stalked in thick cover. Shots are close and fast. A 32lb, 5 foot long rifle is not the right tool for that job. A lot of these guys I see on safari are not in the physical condition to hump a weapon that large in equatorial Africa anyway.
African hunting isn't about needing more lethality. Modern big game bullets will punch right through most anything you care to shoot them at. It's usually a bad shot by the shooter or PH that gets someone mauled or trampled into mush.
if you can't get api rounds how does demo ranch on YT get them.
You absolutely CAN buy API ammo. Unless they changed the laws in the last couple years.
It may be a Wisconsin thing.
Probably because he doesn't live in one of the repressive People's Socialist Republic states in the US.
Decent deer round
The 9x19 is an older round, but wasn't adopted by the US until 1955
The ultimate problem solver!!! LOL
It’s a poor man’s artillery!
You can get any round you want in civi world....
Isn't the M2 HMG just scaled up M1919 30 cal. Didn't know the round just rolled along.
Absolutely. The breech lock operates off the short recoil system. It was originally the M1921 air cooled 50 BMG heavy machine gun. First adopted by the US military in 1933
25 creedmoor - feat professor ryan, - thanks
Lahti L-39 20mm
If I could afford to feed a 50 I would have one. If you cant feed it, why have it.
there is a video on youtube of a guy missing a deer with a 50bmg but the deer dies instantly
I have seen a video of someone shooting a doe with some 50cal round I believe it was. Missed the dear but was close enough to the head that the force or drop of pressure was close enough to the does head it killed it. Some sort of percussive force on the brain like any other series head injury.
That video was faked.
"you cant buy API, you cant buy black tip..." What are you talking about? Not only can you buy it, its cheaper than the match stuff.
No sir you are not correct. You can purchase API & APIT 50 cal Ammo… and I do own a 338 Lapua. Actually the Lapua cost more per shot that the 50 cal.
Actually I think it's an old British expression referring to the length of a Vickers HMG belt. Great show though
Always been an American saying referencing the about of ammo in the wings for 6 .50 BMGs
P-47 had 8x.
do 20mm soon
The fool would be someone with a but out kit and not have a decent made 7.62x39 and 5.65x39 in their arsenal. Invading army's won't be shooting 556.
A little disappointed in this talk actually. The .50 BMG fell in and out of favor a number of times. The original vision of .50 BMG was anti tank, but it was obsolete for that purpose before it reached the battle field. It was picked up for HMG use when JMB invented the M2. It proved very useful in WWII as an aircraft MG as well. When we moved away from HMG's to general purpose MG's the .50BMG once again struggled to find its place. Today, the .50 serves mostly in a defensive vehicle mounted role and as an anti material cartridge thanks to Mr. Barrett.
I recall the BMG wasn't fielded before WW1 ended. It was indeed slightly obsolete by that time. However, that could have fixed by using tungsten core projectiles. However, tank armor advances would have again rendered them obsolete.
You are correct about recoil. I had a Serbu BFG-50. Recoil was similar to a 12ga 2 3/4 shot load. When fired, the first thought is "Damn, this is going to hurt as the rifle accelerates backwards, but as soon as the projectile exits the muzzle brake, the acceleration abruptly stops. Indeed, it's not bad at all. Plus it weighed 33 lbs with scope. Please note, this was the single shot bolt action, not the one with a screw on breach.
They ARE NOT inherently super accurate, I say it all the time, the .338 FAR better if you want a superior accuracy rating.
50 cal hitting a human would be so fast that it would not actually dump much energy inside... if it missed bones.
This dude killed a deer with a 50BMG without even hitting the deer pretty sure a person would have a hard time surviving the same scenario so I think there is a def truth to the myth that you don't always hit the person. czcams.com/video/RAPdYcyAe_w/video.html