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- It’s time to talk about the .300 HAM’R. This cool cartridge maximizes the .30 caliber capability of the standard AR platform, making it an incredibly effective tool for deer-sized game. Is this cartridge not talked about enough? Is it exactly what you’ve been looking for? Find out, on this episode of the Vortex Nation Podcast.
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I believe this is the most misunderstood AR cartridge. It deserves to be way more popular than it is.
Yes but you have to remember, its purpose driven. If you arent shooting a 125g projectile in a 16"+ barrel for maximum velocity and energy in a AR platform, this probably isnt the cartridge for you. I shoot 110-125g in a 1:13 twist 16". I have no desire to shorten the barrel and lose velocity, use a larger weight bullet, losing velocity or try to figure out how to run this suppressed subsonic. I have a 300 blk with a fast twist for suppressed subsonic. My 16" 300 hamr, I can take with me when I fly to NM, CO, UT, TX etc and shoot just about anything inside 300 yards with great terminal performance.
Wilson have no idea what they are missing. They need a hard lead fmj boat tail round, with a reasonably.pointy nose, for grizz defense. 150 plus grains, as heavy as they think they can go. Maybe 180 grains. you need a boat tail for best grizz defense because you need "aerodynamics" to Rip through fur, then skin, then 8" of fat. The fat soaks up energy that you need to penetrate ribs, then vitals. So high bc bullets are good for big bears. If they came out with a heavy chambering in this, and called it "grizzly defense 300 hamr 180 grain"..... They would sell a million rounds and ten thousand barrels in a few months, straight to Alaska. Canadians would get on board too. Anyone who lives in grizz country and has a wife and they don't want her running a full size ar10 because they're too big. Ar15 180 grain 300 hamr would be great.
@@roscoep1082 nobody is talking about this cartridge for below 16" barrel. It has too much powder for that. 300 blk loaded supersonic has too much powder for a ten inch barrel, and optimizes 14"-16" for hunting. The 300 hamr needs a full length barrel 16"-20". It needs time to burn the powder, just like a 5.56. But I'm sure someone will want to run 208 grain 300 hamr bullet and 14" barrel. Which might be quite useful for hunting in dense woods.
It’s new. It will catch on. Unless it’s replaced by something better out of the 5.56 case.
Agreed. A friend of mine who has been hunting, loading, shooting, and gunsmithing for many years told me about the 300 Ham’r. I was skeptical at first, but after researching more I went for it and love it. And yes it has its sweet spot of AR platform hunting of medium to large-ish game. I hope it really takes off in the industry!
Really not comparable to the 300 blackout......My 300 HAMR 18" wilson combat 15 twist 110 vmax at 2775fps and 130 speer hp at 2600fps. The 300 Ham'r is by far the best 223 based variant and imo the best ar15 cartridge for hunting under 300 yards
Ok, here’s what you missed, I have a 16” model. It’s definitely a reloading cartridge. Brass can be made in the same manner as the 300 BLK. You can actually get a jig for your harbor freight mini chop saw from Etsy of all places. But brass is available from Wilson and Starline. The worst group I’ve ever gotten out of mine is just over an inch @ 100 yards with a 150 grain. The best is under 1/2 inch with 125-130. It’s very consistent. My gun weighs 7 1/2 lbs with scope empty mag and sling. It’s such a joy to carry in the field that it’s become my favorite hunting gun! It will deliver the prerequisite 1000 lbs at 200 yards with all of its loads and further with the 150s. It’s basically a better 30-30 with MOA or better accuracy. Bill Wilson developed it specifically for hunting hogs and it fills the bill. It works great on deer as well. It just needs more love ❤️. Thanks again!
Mine shoots factory loads great
Built my setup about 2 years ago around Wilson's fluted 18" barrel and a carbon fiber handguard, and I have to agree with your description: a joy to carry, and to shoot. I experience similar accuracy and consistency as you do, although I load almost exclusively 123/125gr. I'm glad this cartridge has gotten the coverage and popularity it deserves. I know everyone has their favorite pet cartridge besides 5.56mm, but the .300 HAM'R really is excellent!
.5 is nothing to laugh at. It's impressive.
This single post said more than their 18 minutes of talking…
I'm hoping to run 556 300 hamr then 300 blk out of a single casings life. 😅 appockalyps shit.
300 hamr is beast in the AR platform , out shines AK 7.62x39mm performance
As I understand it, it wasn't Wilson Combat coming out with it as a new idea to sell. It was Bill Wilson looking for the ideal cartridge for his specific hunting needs in a rifle he would want to carry. When he finally got what he wanted (.30-30 performance in an AR-15), they slapped a name on it and started selling it. They already had HAM'R trademarked from their big bore .458 HAM'R so that's why it is called such.
Bill's sole purpose was getting 30-30 performance from an AR platform. Bill originally named it the 30-30AR. From a video I watched about it someone was shooting it and said "this thing really hammer's". Bill then changed it to 300 Ham'r.
I built an 18 inch Urban Sniper 300 Ham'r and it's one of my favorites.
I think they had the rights as a company to the HAM'R Name, so decided to use it when they decided to attempt marketing it.
I think he tends to think of marketing as much as development, which simply makes him good at business!
I'm intrigued by this whole set up to be honest!
Yes, it was Bill who did it, not Wilson Combat. His executives didn't want him spending all that time working on a cartridge they felt was a waste of time. Bill knew better.
Just going to drop my two cents here. I have been hunting with the .300 HAM'R for several years now. I've taken 5 deer with it. I found that the 135 grain HAM'R bonded to be a great all around bullet. Every deer taken has seen a complete pass through with exit holes about the size of golf balls. No deer has run more than 15 yards after being hit with the HAM'R. This past year's buck was over 200lbs and didn't go 15 feet before dropping. Chronograph says the factory 135g HAM'R bonded was cooking at 2450fps at the muzzle. This is a bit over what the box is rated for, but within expected tolerance. For self defense a 125 grain TNT bullet at 2600fps would be awesome home defense. I've loaded some for coyote hunting, I just need to get out there and try them.
I have a 11.3 300 ham'r and I reload it and love it. My primary reason for having this cartridge is it's accuracy I have never had a 300 blackout be better than a 2-3 inch gun at 100yds but my 300 ham'r in a 11.3 is a consistent with factory Wilson loads 1-1.5 inches at 100 and with my loaded 110tsx or Lehigh CC is .75 to 1 inch at 100 yards.
I have one, and killed some pigs with it.
Getting 300 hamr Ammo has been easy the whole pandemic. Wilson has been pushing it hard. It works well on game- if you want to hunt with an ar15 and 30 cal the hamr is by far the best option.
Ar10 are way more expensive. You can’t get a barrel for 250 bucks and call it a day
And Wilson just bought Ultra Light Arms, so I see a 4lb bolt action 30 hammer coming!
I was looking to build a 277 Wolverine when 300 Ham'r first landed. Just like you were saying, I didn't want to have to change bolts or magazines for 6.5 grendel or 6.8 spc. I now have 2 Ham'rs and finishing up a 3rd soon. Brass is plentiful and I can still find CFE BLK when all my other powders are out of stock.
Capitalize on the size of the AR without "gettin' goofy". Precisely how I would describe the 300 hamr.
I have one and love it! Used dozens of cartridges thru the years for whitetails and the 300 Hamer is my new favorite. Mr Wilson developed this as a hunting round. He pig hunts on his ranch and did extensive testing on the 300 H on pigs and deer. I've killed several deer with it over 3 seasons now and it is everything that Wilson combat says it is. Bought a barrel and ammo from wilson. Installed it on my upper and the first 5 shot group about 1/2 inch. Accurate, mild recoil and devastating on mid size animals! I hunt in wooded areas where shots are limited to 200 yds.Perfect cartridge for this type of hunting!
No question that he designed it with his specific needs in mind and succeeded quite well. What he didn't anticipate was the exceptional versatility.
Great episode! I absolutely love my .300 HAM'R. I built an 18" mid (intermediate) gas system, 1:15. I run everything suppressed. (avg. numbers below)
125 Sierra PH- 2,530 fps; 1,775 ft lbs
130 Speer Hot Core- 2,475 fps; 1,765 ft lbs
Both solid numbers to reach out a bit, but it's not meant to be a long-range round, like the 6ARC, or the 6.5 Grendel.
These numbers absolutely dominate my 300BLK, albeit optimized in a 10.5" pistol gas, 1:8 configuration. As you stated, it has its place, which is subsonic and suppressed.
110 Hornady GMX- 2,175 fps; 1,150 ft lbs
I decided to also build out a .300 HAM'R with an 11" carbine gas, 1:13 configuration. This is a great "run and gun" hog platform. It's smaller, lighter and easier to manage than the 18", and only gave up ~215 fps for the same rounds:
125 Sierra PH- 2,315 fps; 1,490 ft lbs
It still outperforms my 300BLK, in pretty much the same configuration, with a larger grain bullet.
I think Bill was able to do exactly what he set out to do, which is fully optimize the AR15 platform for a .30 caliber round, and not necessarily meant to "de-throne" the 300BLK (it has its place), but rather reach .30.30 Win ballistics in the AR15 platform.
Best,
What are your views on the new cartridge 8.6 blackout?
@@sloth1490 As you stated, very new. I don't have any personal experience with it, and I'm always excited about new cartridges; to see how they perform, stack up to others, if they fill a gap, etc. 'Q' has done a tremendous job in silencer/suppressor innovation and is partnering with Faxon. It will require the AR10 platform as opposed to the smaller AR15. I love that we keep innovating and don't rely on what is current. Just think about where we'd be if did...we wouldn't even be talking about it since it's built from the 6.5 CM, so if that wasn't realized...either way, I'm sure it packs a punch!
@@danielthompson3837 good points. I guess I’m asking this question because I’m looking to build an all-around rifle for like a Civil War/civil unrest type situation that is better than an A.R. 15 556. I’m looking for something that could be suppressed and is versatile with subsonic and supersonic rounds. Do you think I should build the AR 15 for 300 blackout, or start my build for the A.R. 10 8.6 blackout round? Or is it too early to make that assessment? Thanks.
@@sloth1490 I'd say .300 blackout. More proliffic, cheaper, easier to get parts....logistics and inferstructure is there for it, whereas not so the 8.6, not yet anyway
Y’all talked me into getting a 300 Ham’r. I love it! So much fun and now my general All purpose gun. Hog and deer hunting as well as home defense
I built 3. For myself, my son and brother. I used the Wilson 18 inch barrel . It shoots lasers! 300 yards in the same dag on hole! Repeatedly . 700 yards I keep smacking steal It’s a blast. Please, go stretch one out for a few and come back and talk it more!!!! I use their 125 hot core rounds thanks for the Ham’r pod cast!!
What type of optic are you using and what zero do you have? If you don't mind me asking
@@kevinlawrence9629 Just a Leopold 3 x 9. It has hold overs. Zero at 100
I have both 762x40wt and 300 ham’r. All my tipped bullets go to loading the 40. The 130gr speer sp and the lehigh 110 chaos go to the ham’r. Both platforms are effective for stopping medium-sized game at 300 yards. They have worked flawlessly for me and made me a sub-minute marksman, which I was not consistently for a long time with my factory-ammo loaded 556 uppers. Depending on what game and area I go to, I only choose between my 375 Raptor and the 300 Ham’r. Nothing more.
This cartridge is straight savage. Bill Wilson developed it for hunting pigs in Texas and I can attest that it delivers on that promise.
I have the 18in 300 ham'r, love the cartridge, originally invented for hog hunting, love this cartridge. Very accurate in my experiences with it. Wilson combat also has the 458 hammer you might wanna look into. Thanks fir the content guys
I have put together 3 of them and Hunt with an 18" barrel. Its great, HSM has a commercial load in their lineup. Wilson does have all kinds of ammo for it but it really shines in the the 125-130 grain. Its accurate and carries energy down range well. I really like mine. I am Using 150 Grain SST's
300 Hamr is my go to gun I have acquired enough ammo to use for every situation my raggedy, worn out 61 year old ass will ever encounter including hunting, although I keep a 223/556 AR and plenty ammo for training simply because its cheaper.
Built a 16” 300 Hamr, weighs only 8.8lbs with my suppressor and thermal, ridiculously accurate recoil feels same as my 300 blk and best of all it levels hogs and deer! My 16” AR10 is just over 11bs kitted the exact same as the 300hamr.
Loved the reference of 30-30 out of an AR. Now let's talk about the 45-70 out of an AR platform; the .458 SOCOM. Modern gentleman's version of Ryan's favorite round!
add the 45-70 Auto to that for the heavies
Cant remember the company but there is a 45/70 auto now that moves faster and carries more energy then your normal 45/70 as the case is actually slightly longer
I hadn't heard of it and I like the concept, but I can't believe it fits in the 15 platform. Does it run out of an Ar10?
@@lucasschmitz4588 Phoenix Weaponry, though it was not to difficult to build one.
Yes it runs in the "AR-10" , Phoenix Weaponry, and it runs with the heavy bullets better.
About HAMned time!
I have a Wilson Combat Tactical Hunter 300 Hamr. A friend turned me on to this caliber as I was new on the AR scene. I wanted more power than .556 and didn’t want to get a heavier AR10. What I found is the accuracy is incredible. At 100 yards I shot 20 shots dead center in the same hole. This gun is a laser. Must be twist rate along with bullet weight. Mine is a 13 twist 18” barrel. It’s very forgiving and light recoil. It hits hard and would be an excellent deer gun. I’ve seen a few photos of Elk taken. I’ve seen videos saying accuracy up to 700 yards. Sig makes 125 grain along with Wilson Ammo. I would venture this gun will gain in popularity. Consistent under 1” groups. This Is the real deal. I’m a big fan. You can’t miss with this cartridge. Great for self defense and will take most North American game. It’s expensive but worth it.
All one needs to switch is a barrel, a gas tube, ammunition,and a magazine change; and now you have a semi auto .30-30 equivalent that you can sling over your back while twisting around a hickory tree on your climbing sticks. No way I want to hump around an AR10 in the mountains and briar patches. Check out Bill Wilson’s game room and you’ll understand why Wilson Combat markets a hunting rifle. I think it’s a great idea! Certainly it’s no Ruger No. 1; but in my opinion it’s a splendid choice.
338 Specter! It’s time for this bizarre concoction to get some love. Huge bullet weight spectrum and who doesn’t love an unneeded cartridge based on an unneeded cartridge case? It scratches lots of fun boxes! Great job in the 300 HAM’R.
Gentlemen thank you so much for this video, I’ve been having a bad week but this has made me laugh so much! Keep farting around in the studio. You rule! 🙏🏻
We love to hear that David! Thanks so much for being part of Vortex Nation and for tuning in! We sure hope your week gets better!
I went on my first hog hunt in Texas with one last year, I can't remember what the farthest shot was maybe 200 yards(at night with a thermal scope that was barely sighted in) and let me tell you I was impressed it no pun intended hammered them!! That was the first time I had ever shot a hog so I may not be the best judge on this but I do know them Texas boys were ganna go all .300 hammer once they burn up their .300AAC ammo for whatever it's worth. I know I would not be afraid to take it deer hunting, I'd have one in a heartbeat if ammo were more plentiful for it.
I have a 11 inch 300 ham’r that shots half Mia @ 100 yards. Cartridge is very accurate.
A deep dive into the 30 RAR would make for an excellent follow up to the .300 HAM'R 10 Minute Talk 👍
Yup
Absolutely. It really should have been discussed in this podcast. IMO
And 30 Herrett AR
I wish I would have found this episode right after you put it out. I have 3 different 300 Hamrs. I have an 11 inch AR Pistol, I have an 18 inch rifle and I have a 20 inch. I LOVE the 300 HAMR. There are a couple things to add to the information you gave, even though your information was fairly thorough. The first thing to bring up is accuracy. This cartridge is interantly stupid accurate. If you do any research you will find that people are getting 1/2 MOA accuracy with these rifles all the time. The hunting lease I used to be on was right next door to a ranch that did pheasant shoots and the escapees would get over on our land. I have made neck shots at approximately 80 yards multiple times without a problem. Also the power these cartridges have is incredible. The hogs I have shot have dropped like they were hit by lightning bolts.
Another thing I wish you would have dug deeper, is the fact that by taking a 125 -130 grain bullet up to approximately 2500-2550 fps, you are extending the practical shooting range over a 300 BLK from 150 yards as a practical range out to approximately 500 yards. The reason why it is further than a 30-30 is all in the ballistics. A 30-30 is about 200-225 yards because it basically has to have a round nose due to the tube/ magazine. By having a stackable magazine, you can use much higher ballistic coefficient bullets.
The one cartridge I think they could add to the ham'r line and I think it would be so cool to experiment with would be a 7mm Ham'r. That would get the 110-130 bullets up 20-25% higher of BC. Kind of an AR15 version of the 7mm-08.
The one thing I have wanted people to do that I have brought up to Wilson Combat several times is a head to head with the 6.5 Grendel.
Been waiting on the 300 hamr!!!
When I want to de-stress and veg out I tune into Ryan, Mark and Jim, thanks guys, I enjoy listening to all things gun related!
Would love to see you guys do 10 minute talk about the 303 British and the Lee Enfield rifles.
We will get it added to the idea board, Emily!
And it's Wildcats.
As a lover of the lee Enfield & 303 cartridge ( lives in Australia ) the lee Enfield 303 had a reputation as the almighty 303 back in the day. Now we all know it's only mild compared to almost everything else out there . But for 90 - 100 years it did everything in the commonwealth countries. ( mostly with 174gr fmj )
I personally think it makes a great patrol rifle for those that can't have semi autos & the like. It's a fast firing bolt action that holds 10rds & can be stripper fed. I've owned the 25 & 270 cal Wildcats. I'm toying with the idea of a 6mm or 6.5 version, scout set up with back up irons & full chassis concept. Why not lol.
I'm looking into the Shaw 300 ham'r upper. Saving money 💰 to get it. I'm close. Can't wait
New subscriber found this by accident. absolutely love this!!! Keep up the good work can’t wait to see all of these.
We use a 110 gmx in the blackout for white tail in the north woods. Rather handy.
still at 2000fps at 100yds out of a 16"... that'll get the job done
@@mattcomchoc2957 yea bout right she cooks out at 21/22out a 10.5 pistol (we have pistol/shotgun zones here which is why I made this) so yea by 100 yards she’s prolly going about 21/20… and yes it’s effective out to 2 bills and some change… all I need…. And way more accurate than a 12ga Slug at that distance.
Still will bust clear through a shoulder even at that range.
It is a great youth deer rifle with the adjustable AR platform, .223 like recoil, and very effective killing power. I took my least favorite AR and turned it into my favorite with just a barrel swap and new magazine.
Ok, great show as usual, but it really is time for the .284 Winchester. The first short action modern magnum. Oh and just to dispel thoughts from Jim, I do own one, a DIY custom on a Savage action. Still working loads up but it’s going to be really spicy with the168 Barnes or the heavier eldx’s.
I hog hunt with the blackout with 110 grain Barnes, grendel with 120' 123' and SST 125g and 130 speer HC for the ham'r. The grendel is the most accurate long range, blackout at 100 150 yards hits hard but the ham'r with the 130 grain bullets just flat out kills hogs out to 200 yards. Haven't shot further than that.
Would love to see you guys do 10 minute talk about the 9.3x62. Very popular hunting carterige in Sweden för moose and brown bear.
.300 HAM'R is a great round
Totally get all the comparison with 300BLK since they’re the most similar, but I would’ve liked to hear some comparison with 350 Legend since it’s a widely available AR15 hunting cartridge that’s also just a different barrel and magazine.
It's not a comparison really. 350 Legend is a compliance cartridge. From the muzzle, at 16" barrels, 300 Hamr > 300 Blackout > 350 Legend, and they are about equally spaced apart in velocity. However the 350 Legend loses velocity much faster than the others because it has blunt nosed bullets.
My interest in primary in suppressors so 300 BLK is way more appealing to me, but 300 HAMR seems to be able to get AR10 like performance with the convince of an AR15 so it does probably deserve more love, at least in a lot of hunting situations.
My father in law had two Wilson’s in 300 HAMR. He’s used them for whitetail the past two seasons here in the southeast, and he swears by it. I went with a Daniel Defense in 300 AAC simply because I could find the ammo, but the HAMR is certainly hitting a little harder and has seemed to do better with hogs than the AAC in our experience. I don’t think I’ll buy one, but I wouldn’t discourage anyone from picking up the WC. They’re amazing rifles, and it’s a good cartridge.
Your over thinking the HAM’Rs sole purpose!!! It’s made to modernize the 30/30 rifle cartridge for Hunting Whitetail.. also incredible Self Defensive Load. Basically taking the 30.30 and supercharging it’s performance. Wilson Combat makes incredible products and whatever they bring to the table is worth the listen and application.
Definitely a good reloader's cartridge. Ive pushed a 135gn as fast as 2650fps without pressure signs in an 18"bbl using CFE-BLK. The only problem is that powder gets REALLY dirty when you stuff that much in the case so I tend to keep the load in the 2550-2600 range where the burn is cleaner. As for short barrels, It uses powders on the slow end for blackout so it can work really well in a short barrel, but not quite as short as blackout. The shortest I have tested is 11.3" getting 2400-2450fps out of the above load.
The best part is how soft shooting it is for the performance.
I'd personally love to hear you talk about 10mm, and its redheaded stepchild 40 S&W. And this one is less likely to get covered, but its child 9x25 Dillon (aka what 357 Sig wishes it was) is a super interesting cartridge.
I still want to get a long slide 10mm pistol with a paired 9x25mm barrel. 9x25 is hard to find, but reloading is viable and its pretty spicy 😁
.35 Remington talk would be real nice to see.
New word for Ryan to use when explaining fantastic things….. Splendiferous!! I just learned that word at the “Gas Station TV Word of the Day”!!!😆
I'm sitting here watching this with my newborn (3rd) and I can relate to Mark 100%. Ryan and Jim have no kids, and can remember all of these facts, and Mark has to right everything down and print things.
#dadlife
Relatable Mark...
@@VortexOpticsUSA you guys are all awesome by the way, and I appreciate the content you put out
@@bobc35 We appreciate YOU tuning in and being part of Vortex Nation! Thank you so much!
not just for hunting. will be great as a combat rifle. so much more powerful than 5.56 with same capacity, same range, and only a pound more.
Great video! 458 Ham'r, 458 SOCOM, 50 Beowolf episode next?
Shooting Times did a complete testing and Write-up on the .300 Ham'R which was a play on words to show the round was created by Mr. Wilson to be to best Hog Blaster it can be in an AR.
The article has a huge list of loads and performance levels for it.
30-30 Winchester with a 150 grain Sierra Pro-Hunter SPRN and 38.5 grains of Hodgdon LEVERevolution power does 2512 fps from a 20-inch carbine barrel at only 34,800 psi. It's a real thumper on medium sized game. The same load in my Model-8, 30-Remington, (a rimless 30-30) with a 150 grain Sierra-GameKing SPBT is doing almost 2600 fps.
@@Chester_Oliver Good call. Both the .303 savage (rimmed) and the .300 Savage (rimless) don't get the recognition they should. The .300 Savage a near per to the .308 Winchester was offered in the Remington model 81. The follow-on to the Remington model 8.
Late to this but I got into with the minimum, barrel swap and gas tube. Several different bullets and weights. This is one accurate rifle even with the soft point hunting rds.
With the 135 ftx bullets it’s almost impossible to not get Sub moa even from this old glasses wearing guy.
For whitetail it’s the 30-30 on steroids in the AR platform.
Definitely use blackout mags for more than 3-4 rounds tho.
ER Shaw is offering barrels as well as Wilson Combat. Have seen 4 rifles put together with 2 being Wilson and 2 being Shaw. Every one of them were sub MOA, the best being consistently 1/2 MOA or less. Fantastically accurate, and pleasant to shoot, with an 11" pistol producing better muzzle velocity than a 16" AK (just barely). Great cartridge that has been accepted by SAAMI, with Sig helping out with getting it SAMMI specced. I would imagine Sig will get into loading for this, and possibly building rifles for this clambering.
Now if I could get one in a light bolt action platform for hunting...
Wilson Combat offers a conversion for the Ruger american ranch rifle.
I have the 300 hammer and it is unbelievably accurate..sub,sub, sub moa . Most accurate gun. Bolt included I own and can't tell the difference on deer from 6.5 creedmoor
Would love to see an episode on the 6.5x47 Lapua.
Right on video! Thank you. Building one as we speak. Hunting wise perfect for where I live. Ammo wise a true "no Brainer" for veteran loaders and a safe rifle cartridge to learn on for new folks. (Making brass good) Taticool wise for the range it's intended for or any freaking range please don't shoot me with it!
Love these 10 minute talks. Now neck it down to 6.5, .277, or 7mm higher BC's, better sectional density, flatter tragectory, higher velocity. Very interesting. Til then, if i want 30-30 ballistics i will grab one of them out of the safe. Cant tell me its less handy, or fun to shoot
Starline brass has a great description of it
I am surprised you didn't talk about the 350 Legend here. I was considering the 300 Ham'r but ultimately chose the 350 Legend once I saw some field performance of it take hold on CZcams. If someone's goal is to get deer hunting performance out of an AR-15 with only a barrel and magazine change then the 350 Legend should be an option on the table. With better infrastructure, I think 350 Legend is the better choice for most people. If the 300 Ham'r is a less performative 30-30, then the 350 Legend is your less performative 35 Remington.
Yes but for handloaders there is a vast selection of 30 cal bullets. 35 cal has really only had one sustained commercial success (35 Remington) and there aren't any rifles being made in that caliber at the moment. The selection of projectiles in 358 are either designed for big 35 Whelen/358 Winchester power or round nose lower velocity 35 Remington.
I don't really see the utility of 350 Legend outside of a very specific regulatory requirement. Even then why wouldn't you just hunt with a lever gun in places requiring a straight wall cartridge? A Marlin 1895 in 45-70 far out performs an AR shooting 350 Legend.
8.6 blackout podcast.
I agree. That is what I am interested in.
You mean 338 federal?
@@kirkmartin2223 no im completely uninterested in round that won't fit in a magazine and doesn't give you the ability to run subs
Man, I’ve never even heard of that.
@@MrRdvs87 it's the 260rem vs 6.5creed. 8.6creed or blackout or whatever you want to name it is essentially a 338-08. This whole idea of a 1:3/1:4 twist barrel screams proprietary projectiles.
Reminds me of the 30 Rem AR. I do have one of these and love it for deer
Absolutely love mine!
I like this round a lot better the the 6.5 Grendel that was my hunting round before I found out about the 300 Hamm"r I use it just like I would a 30-30 and a few more Barrel makers are starting to now offer barrels for it. I like it enough that I had a.223 Ruger American re barreled for it which make a nice handy rifle to keep behind the seat in the truck for feral hog control
I have a 300 AAC and found out about 300 HAMMR after my suppressor got out of jail. Very interesting concept, but I find the versatility of 300 AAC to be more valuable than the supersonic performance of 300 HAMMR. A 110 or 120 Barnes TAC TX is more than enough for deer out to 100 yards in Wisconsin, which is all I need. And for anything further than that there is 6mm ARC.
I have the 300 Hamm'r out to 200 yds the hogs don't know what hit them and for Deer I use the 135 grain FTX load and it performs excellent on Deer. Sig Saur now loads 300 Hamm'r
Excellent in depth perspective on new hunting round. With gas prices high, food, and this cartridge is priced super high. .308 all the way unless the rifle, pistol is priced right. Probably on the used market.
Sig is making 300 HAM'R loaded cartridges now.
Ammo is easily available. Wilson has a sale right now. Super easy to build a second upper for a standard 5.56 and be able to hunt deer with your AR. Ballistic performance far out paces 300 AAC. Mag issue is the same between 300 HAM’R & 300 AAC. With more adoption ammo cost will decrease etc.
338 federal podcast please . had an armalite ar10t since 2012. It's a never fail Lazer beam.
Highly underrated. Just wondering why it couldn't quite get out of the weeds and more mainstream
I have several uppers for my AR15 platform. One is a 20”, 15 twist 300 Hamr. I am pushing 150 grn bonded boat tails at 2380fps. The energy, ballistics and terminal performance are pretty incredible for an AR15. 1000 ftlb at just over 400 yards is no joke at all. Remains supersonic to 800 yards but clearly not the choice for that type of shooting. It shoots at MOA reliably. Given the standard bolt face, the long term reliability is also enhanced. I enjoy the other uppers for specific scenarios, but the Hamr is a 1 and done AR15 caliber with some extreme versatility. I find the 150 grain bullets pretty optimal unless night hunting varmints where flatter shooting really pays off. Fortunately, it shoots the 110 grain bullets equally as well if not slightly better.
Thanks, gentlemen, for your videos. You guys are good at what you do. Some day please do the .378 Weatherby.
Awesome! We must see one on big bore rifle cartridges! 🙂
🙏🏻 Thank you!!! And you pronounced my name correctly!
I am very pleased with mine. Living in the eastern US, this it has become my "one gun." Whitetails, varmints, and its a more capable defensive rifle than my AKs or my other ARs.
The handloader's AR. Super cheap to load for, especially if you are trimming down rage pick up 5.56 brass. (Wilson is also offering loaded ammo at very fair prices)
I've not done it yet, but the twist (1 in 15" typically) and powder capacity are appropriate for cast lead bullets, further reducing loading cost, if you cast bullets. That's a whole other can of worms. That said, once I get into casting bullets for 30 cal, I'll swap a barrel on one of my other ARs for lead only plinking, as I don't want to risk leading my main rifle.
This cartridge has converted me from a 7.62x39 AK guy to an AR guy. Now I can use optics. whohoo!
Another 10 Minute Talk, another day of me asking for either a talk on the WSSM's, or even more obscure but cool, the .30 Remington AR.
Hi - know I'm a bit late to the party. Have three 300 Ham'R set-up and love it. Sig makes good ammo as well. SBR with 8in barrel (ATF registered) ... super accurate and very powerful round!
Easy peasy... if you want heavy 30 cal pills going slow and quiet through a can, 300 black out,... if you want optimized supersonic 30 cal from an AR15, 300 HAM'R... Can't decide, get an upper in each,... really wanna lay down some hate and discontent, bump up to an AR10 in 308. I pick all of the above for my safe.
Been waiting a few years for this
I have heard about the hammer. Haven't shot one, it sounds very interesting. Thanks for the information.
Thank you for tuning in, Jay!
When loaded with the same projectiles for comparison, the 300 HAM'R achieves the same velocity from a 12-in barrel as 7.62 Soviet from a 16-in barrel... How's that for tactical purposes?
I have a friend who wants one because his wife likes the AR platform. She has been hunting with a 30-06. He has favored the 30-30 lever for a very long time. They are getting a little bit older and more recoil sensitive. The 300 HMR is a very practical solution for her as it is similar to a 30-30, where they hunt is very often with a lot of brush and foliage, and the ease of use in the AR platform. He plans to reload. I think that it is a perfect fit for them.
As most have commented already for medium game on down WC has a bullet for all types of hunting - extremally affective hunting round 250yrads and in. We use the 130gr speer on hogs and its wonderful!! From the 110 gr to 150 gr ammo when suppressed has even less recoil (so no recoil at all) and very quiet (using the omega 300). I should also mention if it has not been already WC also has Ruger Ranch barrel swap kit for the 300 aac or 223 Ruger's. Its a 16" barrel length and threaded. Highly recommend - we use it ALL the time - great to have a bolt action option for the Ham'r.
Can we discuss the 277 Sig Fury/6.8x51??
I have an 18inch build and Im shooting 110 V-tac with 300blk gen 3 pmags, seem great so far!👍🤠⚔️
I had..... I had one.....before............damn it!
Let’s do a podcast on lever guns for hunting around the world. Calibers, models etc
We will absolutely add it to the idea board!
the .300 Blackout is basically a .30 caliber magnum revolver cartridge without a rim. Loading it down allows for decent performance with a suppressor. I've had this crazy idea of doing something similar to the 5.45x39 but using a 10mm bullet which would fit nicely where the shoulder tapers up. You'd have the option of loading up to pressure for serious terminal performance, or longer bullets for big bullet weights and suppressed operation.
This (300 hammer ) will explode on the market. It will do everything and do it well
THANK YOU!!!
I thoroughly enjoy y'alls content.
We all know it's time for 7mm Rem Mag
Look up the 30 Remington Ar. I just discovered it and I wish it was more popular.
I would love to see a 10 minute talk on the best cartridge for the ar15 platform. #20minutetalk
Ryan needs his own show!!!!!!!
Bill Wilson designed this cartridge specifically for Texas wild hogs. It out performs 7.62x39, 6.8 spc and even 6.5 Grendel to a certain degree. And yes, speaking of combat, this cartridge could EASILY serve as a military infantry caliber because you have that same 30 round 5.56x45 capacity in a much more powerful albeit not as fast shooting caliber. And that 250fps advantage is over 7.62x39, not blackout.
I built one for my kids to deer hunt with last fall. They both took their first bucks with it and I killed a doe with it as well. I've been very impressed with it to say the least. I totally understand the infrastructure issues you mentioned in comparison to the .300 Blackout, but it should also be noted that the Ham'r is much more economical to shoot if you are buying off the shelf ammo when compared to the Blackout. I don't reload my own ammo, plus this cartridge being backed a company like Wilson Combat, was a no brainer for me.
This just makes me even happier I got my ks-47. 7.62x39 soft point ammo is so cheap, and right in there on ballistics.
It is extremely close to all ballistics of the 123 and 158 loadings in the x39. Even Wilson uses it as the comparison in several published chrono sessions. Infact. Someone made a Hornady test of the 123 x39 SST and the 300HMR SST load against gel, armor, pig, and vehicles. No discernable difference noted.
There is no comparison. Especially considering the bullet weight and BC options of 300 HAM'R.
A 16-18 inch 300 HAM'R is 200-400 fps faster than 7.62 Soviet. Add on another 150fps for a bolt gun. An 11.3 inch 300 HAM'R meets and exceeds a 16 inch AK all day.
Maybe the AK velocities seems comparable IF it's fired from a 24 inch barrel, but most folks have a 16 inch.
You most certainly don't have to like or value the round, but don't invent inaccuracies (aka lies) about it to justify your biases.
@@The10thManRules how can they be incomparable when Wilson combat, the creators, compared them on their own website? According to the creators of the 300hamr, the 125 gr sierra has a MV of 2520fps and the 7.62x39 has a MV of 2365fps. That's a difference of 155fps. Both using a 16.25 inch barrel. That's a good advantage to the 300hamr, but not between 200 and 400 fps faster. And yes, if you handload to the max you can get more out of the hamr but you can push the 7.62x39 harder too.
If they both cost the same money to shoot I'd pick the hamr any day, but ammo for the hamr is about twice what you can find SP 7.62x39 for. You can do everything the hamr can with the 7.62 only at shorter distances. I live in western NC where 100yards is a long shot on game. The 7.62 is perfectly comparable to the 300 hamr. I'd still love to have one, but my 308 can do what the hamr can't...elk, moose, so I'll probably never buy one.
Cheers to lots of, comparable, options. 🍻
Okay, we got the .300 ham'r out of the way, now it's time to do the .41 Remington Magnum
By far the most overlooked hand gun round for hunting 250 hard cast bear ,deer, hogs absolute killing machine does not punish the shooter either
Do .458 Socom and .50 Beowulf in your next videos.
I’m looking forward to seeing a ten minute talk about the 356 Winchester.
Comparable to 556 for recoil laser accurate at 200 to 300 yards slightly less drop than 3030 at ranges over 400 as in 1 to 2 in less drop. Gteat knockdown pigs just flop drops deer like 3030