ES15 Comparison
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- A comparison video from @armyofquad showing the stabilising effect of a Panasonic DMR ES-15 in an analogue video capture workflow (between VCR and digitiser).
The tape is in an awful state and the VCR may be pretty low-quality as well but the effects of the ES-15 are obvious.
I picked up a DMR-ES16... the Canadian version. I have a JVC HR-S7800U svhs with a built-in line tbc, but 2 of my tapes have tearing at the top edge with it enabled, and the entire frame slanted to the left with it off. The Panasonic completely fixes that. It did however drop frames here and there. Not in the capture app, but the Panasonic itself. I fixed it by adding a fan to the rear exhaust. The lid would get quite warm after an hour or so, but now it's cool to the touch, and no more dropped frames. I used a Noctua NF-A4x10 5V PWM fan, and took the 5v from the capacitor directly behind the optical audio port on the board. Then hot glued the fan inside the case. I would have drilled and screw mounted, but didn't feel like pulling the board. You can see the heastsink on the chip inside... I almost felt like swapping in an old AMD heatsink that clamps down the same way. 😋
Thanks for the info.
Okay, this convinced me to get an ES15. Looks great, hope it helps me with digitizing my family videos that have pretty bad tearing. Thanks for the upload!
The ES15 menus are mostly self-explanatory. You may want to turn the noise reduction off: on the remote, hit the Display button. You can experiment with it but the general feeling is to leave it off, and deal with the noise in post-processing. More good stuff on the ES15-type boxes here: forum.videohelp.com/threads/403635-Panasonic-DVD-recorder-passthrough-settings-%28DMR-ES10-DMR-ES15-DMR-ES25%29
@@aaprods thanks for additional info. Do you know if using composite out from VCR and not s-video will make the quality much worse?
Unfortunately, in my country it's very difficult to get a VCR with s-video out. We have SCART, but almost every model I managed to find available explicitly says in the manual, that it's doing composite over SCART, sadly.
DVD/VCR combos also have s-video, but its for DVD mode only :(
@@TheSergeyJW Definitely not "much worse". Here are some comparisons. Note that I think the Dallas videos are Progressive, so deinterlacing has little effect. That car advert, though, is fully interlaced, so deinterlacing is effective. As you can see, there is a very slight improvement with S-video but not by much. There are some DVD-VCR combos that output S-Video from VHS: the ones I have are LG RC299, Pana ES35 and EZ48, Samsung Vr355 and Sanyo DX625, but if I had my time again, I'd go straight to VCRShop.com and buy a JVC SVHS VCR with inbuilt TBC such as a 7600. It depends entirely though on what you think about your current rig; if the video looks good (minus the tearing) and you're not a perfectionist :) !! stick with what you've got. One of my best VCRs is a little Composite-only LG GC-990. drive.google.com/file/d/1oaLLNBtMVoXg1BidkbUvb7bs8mwrQQZq/view?usp=sharing
@@aaprods The combos that you mention are the equivalent of connecting a VCR via composite to a DVD recorder and outputting S-Video. Only S-VHS VCRs internally use a Y/C signal path. (Check Service Manual diagrams for confirmation.)
@@videoextrication4138 I don't understand your point. Are you saying the output is effectively Composite through the S-Video port? In the case of the EZ48, outputting with S-Video is better. Have a look at the corner wall of the house, the wheel, the numberplate and the seta backs. imgsli.com/MTk5NTcy