A Rogue-Like You Can Play With Your Friends
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cant wait for this game to change Asmon's life
He's been waiting for this legendary moment
😂😂😂
Changed his bank account
HAHa
If it change his life, I want a proof. His life changed too many times.
It looks like a Hades copy but as a person who has Hades in my top 10 favorite games of all time I will fully embrace this game.
i wouldn't trust a team that just copied hades art style. You gotta do that on purpose
@@hardlyhome314 is hades the first to use that art style? I don't know for sure but I would think they aren't the originators of whatever you call their art style. Apparently people are saying it looks more like darkest dungeon 1 so idk.
@@hardlyhome314 this is not the same art style it's closer to darkest dungeon 1&2 then it does hades. Hades gameplay style for sure, but rogue lite is genre so there will be similarities.
I think it looks more like ravenswatch
They copied Ravenswatch / Curse of the Dead Gods, not Hades
This dev just spent all of its marketing budget to talk to Asmon with xbox 360 era mic
😂😂😂😂
how much do you think it cost him for this call
you dont understand how bad 360 era mics were... he sounds fine here
How can a low key diss of someone's mic, somehow turn into how or what made them cure cancer and fly to mars n shit.
thats the standard im too cool to buy a mic mic
The trailer changed his life
The bag of money he got from simping for DD2 changed his life. This is just another live service "Sponsor me guys!" advertisement.
@@dindunuphenwong who hurt you 🤡
@@dindunuphenwong No shoot its sponosoring...what else would be the reason for a Dev to talk to a Streamer that has a Wide Range of potential Players.
And it looks w@ke in a way. XD
He sold me when he said its has inspired by dota2 Aghanims Labyrinth difficulty system. I was a massive fan of Aghanims Labyrinth and was super sad when the event was over.
The game still is kinda w@ke even if ESG wasn't involved; is not worth it. lol
looks kinda similar to ravenswatch, but that game is more like an arpg + hades.
This shit looks exactly like ravenswatch lmaoo
@@nickr3493 With Hades artstyle and systems. Its a very blatant clone and I don't know why they are trying to claim it isn't.
@@MrWiggz69 Are they? I haven't looking into it past this interview. But Hades was mentioned a couple of times in this interview. If they are trying to copy Hades on the sly this guy isn't doing a great job,
@@slicrhk2129yeah that’s what I heard too and I don’t feel like it’s a bad thing game looks quality even though on the face of it there’s a lot of similarities I’d say once it’ll show its originality in story and unique characters and builds/boons etc plus it’s multiplayer … the gameplay loop of hades is extremely satisfying so I’m not surprised they didn’t veer far from the guide afterall hades too took inspiration from games in the genre all games do and in the end we get more refined high quality products why should we bash developers taking the best of other games and replicating them in new projects learning from what other projects did well to try and replicate and improve upon in your own way and learning from what went wrong or didn’t work to avoid …
@@MrWiggz69and I don't know why you're claiming they claimed that.... Even though they directly said they wanted to make Hades multiplayer. Lmao.
Played for a while. Lots of fun. Testing with a friend tonight. Calling it Hades co-op is quite accurate so far. I'm sorry if this was not the intent of the devs, but it's just how it is. Just roll with it now, you got something interesting there. Many, many, many people wanted to play Hades in coop.
Good point!!As a matter of facts..there is alot of games I want to be coop..dragons dogma is really one of them!
is it multiplayer better?
I played solo, i found it to be way too slow on almost any character bar 2 setups.
Felt quite clunky, the gun with the gun holy crap that was sooo slow.
Havent tried it multiplayer tho, so maybe its more balanced around that or something.
A real shame that the game looks a bit w@ke even if ESG wasn't involved.
My only gripe with Hades is lack of multiplayer, these guys seem to actually want my money.
The devs really liked Hades as it seems from the art :D
the art is actually really different from my artist prospective and i can say i like this artstyle more
This game looks like a mix of hades and ........ nope, just hades.
Curse of the dead gods.
darkest dungeon
The shading is more Darkest Dungeon than Hades
good enough for me
Children of morta too
Great video Asmon, you should do more of these game-dev interviews. :D
I just want to say I appreciate how honest this guy is with his opinions on the game so far. I'm excited to see where this goes
Looks like Ravenswatch... I'm going to play both, as co-op games always look awesome especially games like that
I loved this kind of game back when most PCs in the home couldn't handle much more. Amazing how it became it's own "genre" that's held on to this day.
A real shame that the game looks a bit w@ke even if ESG wasn't involved. XD
Looks a lot similar to Curse of the Dead Gods for some reason
I thought that when I seen it
What im wondering if it's same as ravenswatch where you don't actually level your character, it resets after each stage like. That only thing i didn't like about ravenswatch. It felt like timed level up char, beat boss or lose to boss, get exp on account for that character, then reset.
looks cool, like gauntlet the dark legacy but in the art style of hades and with roguelike elements.
yall should add a lobby area where players can play different mini games (like soccer etc)
i dont really play games like this one but you can see from the devs face (the way he awkwardly smiles whenever he is talking about his game) that he loves what he's doing so i'll be buying it
Watching his gameplay from distance play style and attack animations are almost the same as Riven from LoL.... cool😎
Does this game have cross play between PC and console? I haven't watched yet. I looked a little online, but couldn't find an answer.
Looks so much like Ravenswatch and Curse of the Dead Goods, almost a dead ringer for it. Will definitely check it out, hopefully the singleplayer experience is good.
Ravenswatch is good but needs more content these are the type of games I've been wanting so i'm glad to see another one
And it looks kinda w@ke as well. XD
Tried the game, All I can say is playing as the 2hander sword warrior and skydropping(heroic leap on crack) on enemies is fun.
Is it more fun then Hades?
Think it'll have match making or in game lobbies? most indie games seem to skip this for some reason
They skip because it is costly and fucking hard. If matchmaking was easy, then MULTI BILLION companies would not have issues with them TO THIS DAY.
Just let that sink in. You have MILLIONS of dollars worth of resources and you still cannot get the Match Making right, even though more than a decade has passed (Heroes of the Storm, Dota 2, League of Legends, Smite)
They don't skip it "just because". That shit is hard to program and it is also hard to find good professionals with experience that won't cost you the wage of 10 employees.
Hades + Ravenswatch, it will be very fun if done right, good job! Can't wait to play it
Played a few hours, but I have to say that it feels kinda bad solo, since there is no way of reviving yourself. The multiplayer aspect is not there for me just yet, because I couldn't recruit any friends to play with me so far.
Looks more like curse of the dead gods than hades. But hades is more known.
Yeah, this seems much less like a straight Hades clone and more like a hodge podge stew of stuff from a bunch of other games already out: Hades, Curse of the Dead Gods, Ravenswatch (another game from the Curse team), Darkest Dungeon… it goes on and on.
Bro, the boon doorways and many other things are practically copypasted from hades
Hey just a heads up, ronin has damage numbers
I WANT THE BORDERLANDS GAME TOO BRUH. These guys are hitting that look I really hope this game puts them into the place where they can do kinda like Hyper Light Drifter and go from this co op rogue like to a co op open world adventure game that has the same style. Great things from these people, I foresee it.
Looks similar to a game called Ravenswatch which is another co-op rogue like from 2023
Please do more content like this. You are really natural at this Zack
Co-OP and a Rouge-lite ? I'm interested !
I love these hades esque kinda games theyre so fun
mhn if i was a hades developer i would be a bit pissed. i dont think you have to reinvent the wheal but this really gets close to a copy of it + multiplayer functionality.
1. the graphics
2. the gods
3. the movement
4. the attack patterns and how they are graphed
5. the traps and how they are designed
etc.
its just TO close for seemingly no reason because you could have changed most of these while keeping the concepts. traps didnt have to be plates that spike up if you walk over them. there are many types of traps. art-style didnt have to have gods giving you abilities, you could have gotten them from monsters or picked them up in magical spheres throughout the "world" (aka stages), left behind by some prior civilisation or by monstrous entities who enjoy seeing you fight and struggle etc. but wanna give you a chance to get stronger and prevail, and so on. and e.g. those icons on the doors look SO hades.
Most games have similarity to each other. HADES devs should be pissed, some games should just have a co op function. Lets face it, we live in a world where everyone wants to play with someone so not having co op is kinda dumb. EVERY game should have the OPTION to play co op.
@@challenger3596 most games have similarity to each other but most games dont look like a carbon copy. Soulslike games are great example of having the same core concept, but being different enough from what fromsoftware makes every now and then.
Also not every game has to have coop lol
@@challenger3596 yeah or lets take palworld for example. its totally fine. they may have used the same models for the "pokemon" but its an entirely different game mechanics wise.
or most survival games are the same concept. you strand with nothing after shipwreck ,you get a stone and a stick, make an exe, whack a tree, you have to drink water to sustain thirst, hunt to sustain hunger, etc., the building system is most often the snapping rectangle walls of material wood, stone, iron, etc.
but they either change the graphics, or you have to cook the water or there are new animals to hunt or the disection of the animals is special or you have to conserve your food or there are dangerous animals that hunt you as well or there are waves that attack your housing every x days or you can get diseases from eating stuff raw or they also have an underwater world and you build on a raft insteaf of an island or etc.
they are "same-ish" yet different. there are so many out there that feel "generic" but you could still go and call out many differences if you looked for them.
in this game, its just TO close xd. if you didnt see two people play you might really think it was hades gameplay.
and no, IMO not every game needs a multiplayer. it takes away from the pacing yourself, it gets problematic in progression (does the other get downscaled or do you not have skill points to distribute?), it takes away from the immersion as you may have to rush and not experience the story with its little dialogues as you wish, it gets cluttered on screen and small arenas as you have to differentiate your own, the others and the enemies abilities and positions, you have to dodge attacks you didnt even trigger, etc.
its cool if its there for those who want but its not necessary in every game. in some its stupid to implement.
it does have a lot of similarities to hades. however as a neutral observer of both since i have not played either and i watched some gameplay footage on youtube, I have to say that as a first impression this game is more appealing to me. Hades ability effects were too intense and as a result i had no fcking idea what was going on. Too many lighting effects and too fast alterations. This is like a toned down version aesthetically speaking. Also the coop is definitely reason to pick this one over hades.
I know most people who are fan of hades will argue how its a better game for multiple reasons and i am sure they are right, but as a first impression I would definitely choose this one since its more my style.
I'm not really interested in analyzing how much of hades is actually stolen and if it's moral or not. Not so invested into this to care. Just my 5 cents.
''copying'' is another for of flattering.
A co-op rogue-like, i thought Endless Dungeon was suposed to be that, too bad it died so fast after release...
They didn’t give us any sexy or relatable characters so ofcourse people lost interest
Hades with Darkest Dungeon Art style. I'M IN
Played it, game is fun as hell and the different weapons feel great. I hope the developer has the resources to release a lot of content for the game.
its fun i played with a friend for 3 hours it definitely is multiplayer hades which is not a bad thing. no issues on lag or connection but those hitboxes on projectiles need some work, somehow make them more clear which was the thing i liked most about hades, u always knew how and why u fkd up. playing a game like this with other people which is very caotic u need to know whats going on
cant wait for when it comes out
Holy moly seeing that team 17 logo! Countless hours spent playing the shareware Alien Breed as a kid 🥹
tryied the game with my friends now its 6 in the morning 6 hours later and we are shocked the time went too fast man this game is really fun.Great expirience would do it again
ive been waiting for a good rogue light that is 4 player
This guy's seems chill. I like him and I am excited to support his team
I just tried the closed test, and I would buy it if it had more content than hades and the actions are more responsive. There's a lot of action lag and animation desync. I just unlocked the handcanon for the rook, and the sound plays about 0.8s earlier than the ball being shot, and dash can cancel the attack even after the ball has been visibly out of the cannon by like a meter.
The games not even finished though. Your saying an incomplete game has issues. ofc it does, its not even done
@@Ky-U I know, thats exactly why I'm pointing out the issues. The game seems fun but very unfinished.
@@kuratse205 ah ok. I understand. Sry ive just seen way too many people complain that a game isnt finished when it literally isnt finished. Just like when the gta6 leaks happened. But yeah i apologize, you were just giving helpful criticism.
played the game about 2 hours. I enjoy it a lot! Played soo smoothly compared to what i was expecting from the footage. Great fun game. definetly following this project.
This game is great combat feels good and art is really good. They have nailed most important parts. I hope they get gamepad support his would be perfect on Steam Deck
I mean children of morta is a thing too
Way too short tho
I wish there was a dagger melee option, or daggers, Like sort of assassin playstyle
there is, just not with daggers.. use the default hero with sword, get the god/goddess that allows you to backstab and get his skill that he instantly teleports behind the enemy. have fun.
@@DescendingDeath666 Yeah i use it with the dual throwable's, but man dual daggers or A dagger build would be sick, Or like a mage nekromancer build
I tried the beta for Sworn. Very good and I'm excited for full release. Combat is snappy. Meta progression seems on point. Risk vs reward gameplay with curses and idols is absolutely a fantastic idea in a roguelite. Well done, sir! A few points for improvement. First, please make it so the names of the blessing class pops up more than one time. I forgot what the symbols mean after only reading it once. "Is that the symbol for Dark Omen or Banshees?" Second, I have no indication of how long my dodge takes to cooldown and I find myself trying to dodge in and out but I can't. Some visual sign like a circle at my feet that fills up or something would be helpful. Or have stacks of dodges, say three, that can be used with no cooldown but take time to refill, again with some visual indicator like little pips similar to how dodge works in Curse of the Dead Gods. Third, I want the music to go much harder. A theme that plays when you select each class of powers, a theme that plays when you're talking to Merlin or the Lady of the Lake, and most importantly, a dope battle music that spools up when combat starts (each biome with it's own feel, and each boss with it's own theme.) I noticed the music does get louder and the bass gets harder, but I'm talking MORE! Also, I see you are a gentleman of taste who also plays Slice & Dice.
Yeah A real shame that the game looks a bit w@ke even if ESG wasn't involved.
trying to get the sworn key but email confirmation is blank lol
Its as if Hades and Ravenswatch had a baby
love Team 17 and the Worms series!
This will absolutely change his life and that of his friends
I want to play this game even more now that I know they took inspiration from Dota 2's Aghanim's Labyrinth mini game.
i've played this game for few hours im loving it soo far can't lie interested now to see how will progress in future
So I've missed my chance to play it? Or can it still be accessed?
This guy spent over 2 years straight of playtime on dota. Thats crazy.
Are they in any way involved with SBI?
hades with darkest dungeon art style looks fire ngl
As a developer of a roguelike myself I wonder what it takes to get an Interview with Asmon.
🤑
A lot of money 😂
Probably not that much, look how desperate he is for content
You’d have to partner with Mad Mushroom and probably specifically ask for Asmon. Under the OTK website it says they’ve partnered with Mad Mushroom. Which uses influencers like Asmon to push games.
But I doubt it was cheap lmao.
Mad mushroom is publishing the game (his studio)
I need this, i need more coop games
This developer seems like a great guy. Was really cool of him to give away test build keys. Can’t wait too see more.
A real shame that the game looks a bit w@ke even if ESG wasn't involved. lol
@@IncognitoActivado what does that even mean?
@@sheeeit7730 Use the Internet.
Added to wishlist jst bcause dev seems like a chill dude. Hope its good
I get the feeling there won't be beta queues by the time I get off work now that this video exists xD
Wishlist count on Steam is one factor used to determine launch exposure. Surprised he didn't just flat explain that. Also how do I get an interview for my game that Asmon would probably hate =o= j/k... if he deemed it so I'd spend the next 2-4 months converting combat to souls-like physics based 🤔
Thanks to this video I have now a new game to look forward to. Had no idea about this game until this video. Thanks Asmon and Team17!
Looks like a mix of ravenswatch and hades.
Hmmm wasn't too interested in rogue likes but with multiplayer I'm gonna have to at least try this
Love this game! Please if you could add a rogue or a gunslinger ranger that would be great!!! Fully support
played it, did all the game in 3hours . good game
literally a hades copy man, i appreciate the little differences and the multiplayer aspect but to say that hades is not the main inspiration is crazy, animations, art style, same kind of indicators for attacks, the mythology setting... list goes on and on but yeah the guy has ''only played 40 hours of hades''
This is a carbon copy of Hades with added multiplayer, I don't know why they don't just admit it.
everything from the menus, to the choosing reward doors at the end of each room...
"We knew we could do things that were really hard"... lol dude you other people laid the entire foundation for your game.
Wait did they try and say its not? I showed my friend and he thought I had an EA key for hades 2..
Its a very blatant clone, I have yet to see anything original about it. Will it be fun? Idk, I personally didn't enjoy the little I played of it but im sure there will be people that like it.
first i was feeling like you guys are capping until i watched the video its actually just hades but multiplayer
@@MrWiggz69 i donno man, i think if you cloned a game but added a multiplayer component to it that's a pretty great clone in my book
I tried the beta and I have to say the game play feels really smooth. You can really tell the devs are really passionate about this game. Can't wait for the full release.
If hades 2 gets delayed again im going to try this out
This looks so much like Ravenswatch! I think it may be the same publisher too.
I just hope it doesn't become abandonware in a year like Enemy on Board
As long as it don't control like Ravenswatch or Darksburg because HOLY.. 😅
Ive never had problems on Ravenswatch I love that game
@@Mckadesarcadehave you tried it on controller? It was almost unplayable last time I tried. To be fair, Darksburg was even worse.
ya i play it on controller never had a problem@@bearwitty9690
I’ll try this with the homies after work when the wife and 6 kids go to sleep 😂
but we have that … it’s called ravenswatch! Co-op rogue like
Another life changing game, what a time to be alive.
This is a game if Hades and Ravenwatch had a baby
How did this guy get the interview? Has sworn been on people’s radars for a while? Or have you just been eying it for a while? Did someone in their team know you and reach out?
Money. It says a paid sponsor at the start of the video.
Would be a bit funny if Hades 2 buys them out and turns this game into a DLC + the included multiplayer side of Hades 2. Either way this will be interesting how Hades 2 responds.
Good for this dev that Hades wasn't made by Nintendo.
It's cool that they managed to add multiplayer to this Hade total conversion mod!
Kotaku does "game guides" now, asmon is at the cutting edge of new releases. How the turntables
In the first 41 seconds the thing im thinking about instantly is Tribes of midgard.
I want roguelike like this in mobile
Me and my friend literally making similar game but we make doom style designe
I had some fun playing this game id like an option to be able to join random players
looks more like curse of the dead gods than hades tbh
5:21 there's nothing fun in rebinding controls just to play a certain character.
I waited for a game like this because I loved Hades but it sucked having to play alone.
''Dead Cells'' and ''Skul the Hero slayer'' have been my favorites that I keep coming back to really looking forward to this one as I've gotten my mates into Rogues as well(''skul the hero slayer'' really klicked with them) so it will be nice to have one to play when hanging out instead of taking turns ''Windblown'' is another one I'm really looking forward to.
I see some people saying a lot of Rogue's are co-op and I'm really sitting here like..... wait wha? what am I missing here unless they mean co-op where 1 player just plays with you but has no progress what so ever which I don't even count cuz thats just lame and cheap co-op in my opinion
Really liked Hades as well and I am looking forward to Hades 2 but I never really came back to Hades after playing trough it so less replayable to me and that is one of the things I'm looking for in Rogue's, I still have yet to play ''Darkest dungeon'' because for some reason whenever I boot up the game and look something up online I just feel overwhelmed with information lol and when looking up guides to make some sense of things them being a frikkin 60min+ X'D
is the steam friends thing only for development tests? i never heard of this.
Great interview. Looks fun but challenging. I'm not too into souls-like games so hope it will have a difficulty slider so bad players like me can enjoy it. :)
Does this game have a name? Its not in the title or description or pinned comment
Edit: im an idiot and didnt see description properly, lacking sleep tho lol sorry
Just played for a few hours. It is literally Hades; down to some particular mechanics. Will easily fill the void before Hades II drops.
SUPER surprising upload dude!
And i really liked the organic talk and presentation of the game.
Love the genre and looking at a co-op rogue is just so exciting.
Time to try it!
This looks exactly like hades
This game looks really fun I can't wait till its full release.
why does it look exacly like ravenswatch xd
Team17 you sunsofabinches they were the reason of my addiction to Worms and the game that made my grades plummet, I do not regret it one bit.
Worms3D LAN also a school destroyer back in the days.
You know they are not the developers of this game tho, right? They are just the publishers
worms armageddon was the best back in the day. was so cool to find it on steam a few years back.
@@razzledazzleman9573
What are you smoking? Team17 has always been the developer of the Worms games.
They didn’t develop this game
@@razzledazzleman9573it doesn’t mean that the pedigree or those devs and that talent isn’t available at moment’s notice should there be a need to help out i feel.