Cessna 310Q Flight from Palatka, FL (28J) to Charleston, SC (KCHS) Part 1 of 2 April 2018
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- Video of a Cessna 310Q flight from Palatka, FL (28J near Jacksonville, FL) to Charleston, SC (KCHS). This flight occurred on 3 April 2018 and had some significant weather in the Florida area at the onset of the flight. Practiced an instrument approach RNAV 21 VTF into Charleston, SC. Fly along on this general aviation flight with ATC calls and intermittent commentary. Thanks for watching!!
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Wow! I kept hearing the approach controller speaking to N263AT... I trained on that airplane PA-44 (Seminole) out of KISP in NY. I ferried that airplane for maintenance down to Jacksonville FL many moons ago! Aaaaahhh, the memories! 😁
Beautiful plane and wonderful flight. At one point I think I heard a voice saying "and out of the blue of the Western sky, it's Sky King" (my favorite TV show when I was a kid.
Best flight video I have ever seen. You give thousands (17,712 to be exact) of people a lot of joy with your work. Thank you.
Robert Henry, M.D.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad that you enjoyed the video. Please view more of the videos and comment on the quality/perspective. A rework is underway. Stay safe!!
I just discovered your channel - saw your interview on another video about the 310 and its operational costs. I've been in love with this twin and the 340 since I was little (now I'm 54). Thanks to that video and others I decided to explore becoming a pilot and now I'm doing ground school, in hopes to get my hands on a 310 later provided I pass all exams. Your information on that interview was very valuable in my decision. Thank you so much for being an advocate of GA and especially of this nice plane. I wish I had discovered your channel before, now I have a lot of material to go through.
It’s nice to have you back with your outstanding VLOG and the 310 ? I know I get the bell ringer when there is something new . I really enjoy also anything technical when your prepping for your 100 hour.
As always and excellent job, sir.
Awesome video man! I was cutting up at the beginning about the Piper
Great production. Nice looking 310
It's interesting to see other pilot's exhibit their radio communications vs. the way I communicate. But don't worry about the amature on the ramp.
Enjoyed the video, thanks.
Art, great to see you and the 310 still in command. Also, I’ve been watching your progress on CZcams-good stuff. ...listening to the automated weather report from Palatka was confusing to a virtual pilot like me...smile.
Thank you and thanks for watching. Check your phone for other information. Cheers!!
Great videos. Thanks.
Nice video 310 my favorite twin! Use to fly out of Palatka myself.
Oh wow!! When were you last at Palatka? That is neat. Are you flying currently? Stay safe
Nice plane. Enjoyed the video!
"You'll have problems, when you say I don't have problems".
love watching your videos inspires me to learn to fly. Awesome plane and very experienced pilot
Thank you for the compliment and thanks for watching!!
Nicely Done Art... and I too find myself up on the panel for a better look ';-)
Thank you and I do need to chat about the 425 owner experience soon. Cheers!!
I fly like an old lady too.....I am glad that I am not the only one......love your videos
Roy, you are not alone. I have to laugh at myself when I notice my positioning. Thanks for watching, stay safe!!
Wow!! Billinga, I’m amazed at that guy that was taxiing before you took off, he didn’t say anything on the radio did he??? I guess it’s like you said it takes all kinds except that is not only unprofessional but very damn dangerous!! Otherwise great flight as usual, thanks for letting us ride along!!
Your a professional gentleman.
Nice Job
Sorta offtopic, are you able to expense or at least get tax deductions for your flights? Is there something akin the federal mileage rate for aircraft?
Love your videos! Good insights @ 26:06 for someone like myself looking to get into a 310 (transitioning from 182) for range and speed. (and for safety over water - like in this video over the ocean - and night flying are also key considerations) Would you comments on acquisition/maintenance costs on a Cirrus G2 or similar fast single compare to a 210 making 310s more favorable over faster singles?
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the feedback. For a quick look at the Cirrus G2 go here --> www.aopa.org/community/flying-clubs/flying-club-newsletter/2015/october/18/aircraft-spotlight .
For my overall perspective of the 310, look here ---> www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2017/november/pilot/musings-married-to-my-airplane
and view this --> czcams.com/video/QGE4mPJzRDU/video.html
And here is the journey to the 310 from a 177:
The candidate platforms were C-182RG, C-210, Baron, Seneca, Aztec and C-310. These were the airframes with which I had familiarity and insights into performance.
I flew and rented many types of GA aircraft. I have developed a bias for Cessna and its design philosophy. As such, I had a choice in going from C177 ($60K, 10GPH, 135 KIAS) to something more capable. The choices were C182($80-100K, 13GPH, 145KIAS), C210($180K, 17 GPH, 155 KIAS) and C310 ($80-140K, 24GPH 175 KIAS). C210 is a great airplane and it remains the best single engine platform for utility, comfort and ease of flying.
The first down select was based on useful load and performance. That left the Baron, C-210 and the C-310. Then came the analysis of purchase price and maintenance costs. There are some nuances involved in comparing Centurion(C-210), Baron (B-55/58) and the Songbird (C-310). A comparably equipped Baron in the same/similar year as a Songbird was hard to find/compare at that time. My purchase budget dictated a look at 1972-1976 for model review. However, because the Baron has been in continuous production, it gets a plus in maintenance. The downselect for the Baron came because of the cockpit arrangement. I am just not a fan.
For my new role/mission(500NM, night, kids, comfort), the choice came down to the Centurion(c-210) or the Songbird (C-310). Given the market at the time, late model 210s and 310Rs were trading at a premium(>$120K). While maintenance costs are considerably more for a twin than single, the useful load, slightly better performance (310Q) and system redundancy(safety) were worth the difference. I settled on the 310Q as my desired platform to fulfill my flying needs and budget(
I'm ready
Really enjoyed your video! I hope we can fly together one day. Flying twins has been a long time dream of mine
I would enjoy that. Where are you based?
Man I love the alsum Sound of the 310
Several years ago did you ever fly into Shannon Airport? As I was on the ramp with a friend of mine who I met there said to me one day you need to meet the owner of that Cessna 310
Yes, about 2 years ago was there. Thanks for watching!!
Thanks Billinga
Were you on auto pilot, as I see limited interaction with the steering column? Just curious? Also, the two red handles next to engine power, are they for controlling flow of fuel to the engine or no?
This 310 trims pretty well so once trimmed for climb, cruise or descent, it holds without much interaction. In addition, I do use the autopilot to reduce workload especially in cruise. The autopilot does not have altitude pre-select but does have altitude hold. And yes the red levers are fuel flow to each engine. Thanks for the feedback.
You're welcome and Thank You!
I appreciate how clean you keep your windshield! Too many private pilot videos are shot through smudgy glass, I don't get it. I also appreciate the mix of analog and digital instruments in your dash. One thing I don't get is why your video is listed as "comedy" in the category by CZcams (?) All around a nice fly along, thanks for bringing us on board!
Thanks for the encouragement and thank you for watching. I hope these of of value. See you on the next adventure. Cheers
Nice flying and nice airplane. About same age and similar to you - retired Army , left handed and recently got a Seneca II turbo which i upgraded with Aspen 2000 and JPI EDM 760. I went to Bishop Kenny in Jacksonville. One of these days i'm going to find you so i can learn from the Zen master or is it the "old lady" ;-) Thank god for flying as civilian life would otherwise be insufferably boring. Mr Billingsly have you ever considered acquiring a British accent ?
Thanks for watching and while my name is British, had not considered a British accent. LOL. How do you like the Seneca??
Why do you make your radio calls to unicom twice? That seems like it would just add to radio congestion.
Thanks for watching and when no response heard or confused response, make the clarifying call again. Err on the side of over communication since radio comms are garbled sometimes. Radio congestion is a sign of heavy airport use and calls can be shortened to type, intention, location, airport. The N numbers and colors aren't as necessary in tight calls. Hope this helps. Stay safe!!
That's not really standard communication practice as set forth, well...anywhere. I've been flying for 30 years and have my CFII and ATP. I guess non standard radio communication is just a pet peeve of mine. Nice video. I appreciate the effort it takes to make these. I've been thinking about a 310, but I just don't want to pay for all that gas. I'm now looking at a Bonanza. Half the fuel burn and I get there 15 minutes later. I do lose the security of that extra engine though. I won't likely fly much at night or in low weather without the second engine.
I agree that it is not standard but is effective to ensure folks are aware. In high density ops, it can be shortened as described. Because the C310 is flying the pattern at 120 knots, more spacing needed and integrating can challenging. At any rate, the Bonanza is a solid choice and platform. I am a fan of the Bonanza and Centurion, they are at the pinnacle of performance and capability for singles. I too considered these platforms but choose the C310 after further analysis. The fuel burn for the C310 is about 7-10 GPH more. The acquisition price is 1/2. The maintenance is roughly 1-5-2.0X the single. This insurance is almost the same (given ratings and hours). The performance and capabilities is much greater in the twin, 2 alternators, vacuums, motors, better deice, longer range, carry more, etc. The business case worked in favor of the twin. YMMV given intended missions. If I can help in any way, let me know. Also, if you havent seen this, it may be of some use. czcams.com/video/5mO23NYMt_I/video.html
Hey how come that at 7100 feet the comsumption indicates 40 gph speed 145Kt.? This sounds me too much.. Rpm was 2300. I am planning to buy such a plane but I heard about 26-28 gph on average so this confuses me now..
At 7100 feet, fuel consumption is roughly 25-26 GPH ROP for any normally aspirated IO-470 powered Cessna 310Q. Fuel flow is only 38-42 for less than two minutes during initial takeoff. Thanks for watching!
What power settings do you like the best. I just bought a Q model.
I thought I’d share my philosophy for flying the C310. Flying the Cessna C310 is best done by the numbers. The C310 is fun to fly and easy to land when operated by the numbers.
For the 5 regimes take-off, climb, cruise, approach and landing, most GA aircraft have a “best setting” for each of these regimes. The best setting is generally developed from collective experience of pilots and “type clubs” where this tribal knowledge is valued and held. Type clubs are aircraft specific and are a must for any aircraft owner or pilot who flies a specific type often. While the POH provides limits of operations, the best settings are derived from years of pilots’ collective flying in varied environments. For the C310, the Twin Cessna Flyers (www.twincessna.org/)
membership is a MUST.
So in piloting the C310, for take-off is everything full forward (35MP, 2700RPM, 38GPH). Maintain centerline and check for airspeed indication. At 85 knots, rotate the aircraft and adjust pitch to attain blue line 102 knots (Vyse) and then adjust for 120 knots (quick climb) or 135 knots (cool climb). At 1000 feet AGL, transition to cruise climb with (MAX available MP, 2400 RPM) and fuel flow set to maintain engine CHT less than 380 degrees (
Thank you for taking time to go into great detail. You leave the manifold up all the way in the climb? I appreciate the help. I will renew my twin Cessna flier membership. It just expired.
@@pastortbell Yes, first 1000 feet - everything forward. Then back RPM to green band 2400 and off AUX fuel pump and adjust MP for cylinder temp. Generally can leave MP MAX if climb at 125-135 knots. Airflow will keep temps under 380. In the summer, may have to adjust MP to baby the cylinder temps.
billinga Wow, you are awesome!
@18:34 is the CHT sign flashing normal - just curious
No, one CHT probe is INOP causing flashing alert. Confirmation of normal is via the legacy analogue temp upper right.
@12:39 - do you like to align the props ?
Yes, but with ANR headsets sometimes not that aware.
@@billinga Just watched an older vid from '310 Pilot' where he said the same thing, people bugging him about prop sync and he just can't hear it b/c of ANR headset.
Got you email I’m in CAE Columbia,SC
Thanks for the videos, Mr. Billingsley. They are a lot of fun. If you want a better experience, buy a dedicated, high quality audio recorder to record all audio. Discard all audio from your video recorders after editing. Then sync your audio recorder with your video recorders with a clap. Do so at the very beginning of your recorded content. Then pull your synced video content in the sequences you want all the while maintaining your single synced audio control. There are some excellent video/audio editing programs out there that can sync all your video recorders and your single audio source. That way you smooth out the video you are producing. It's makes for a better viewer experience. It also takes more time to edit! Oh, well.
Thanks for the ride-along. It's always fun! I never miss an episode. Your stuff is far superior to the pap on the MSM.
Paul, thank you for the encouragement and the suggestion. I am looking to improve the content and will consider audio also. Can you pass the name of a couple of audio solutions? Thanks again for watching and commenting. I appreciate the discussion.
Hi, Mr. Billingsley!
OK, watch these video from AVWeb.
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Tascom audio recorders are excellent. Get a better quality one.
Here is an MIT engineer that should answer your questions on cabling:
czcams.com/video/fLQsEtl6TR4/video.html
Let me know if you want more info or good videos to watch on the subject.
Enjoy!
PB
Thank you, good references!!
@23:57 - is your hsi to the right of the aspen u/s ?
Yes, that is the INOP HSI (NSD 360A). Glideslope and localizer still function in the unit but compass INOP.
Great video, I have a spare working NSD360 if want to buy it let me know? Thx
Wow, thank you. I am looking to replace with another Aspen unit or G5 shortly. I really appreciate the thought and offer.
That’s a smart move with the G5. You have a great airplane and it shows that you are a safety conscious pilot. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you. Last year, I looked to replace the NSD 360 with an overhauled unit ($3K) and could not find a single unit available. Six weeks to availability. Anyway, started looking for another solution. Sandels were $8K+, electric Kings were $8K+, Aspen $9K+, etc. Then came the FAA with their relaxation of certificated avionics ruling. The original G5 was not HSI capable, but now is available at $4k. Aspen is running a special to stay competitive with MFD for under $5K. So either Aspen or Garmin to replace the NSD 360. Thanks again for the offer. Oh please subscribe if you have not already. Have some other videos in the pipe.
@10:55 - when do you switch off the fuel pumps and landing light
On take off, aux fuel pumps and landing lights off at power change. On landing, fuel pumps, landing lights on at gear down/flaps 15. Thanks for watching.
How old is your plane?
Thanks for watching , this is a 1974 Cessna C310Q manufactured 44 years ago.
Every airport has that guy at 3:40 but you really need to cut him some slack. What if he had spilled his beer on short final? Is he supposed to get out all wet and such? As far as the old lady posture, my buddy and I were working and he said, "I just heard you make an old man sound." OK, great dude, why are we even friends ya jerk! But he was right.
LOL, yeah this getting older thing is real it seems. As for the shirtless pilot, he was a young guy (20s) and was in a hurry to exit the airplane. The plane had barely stopped before he bounded out in shorts and flip flops to the tarmac. Oh well. Thanks for watching. Cheers!!
On your Q model how many gallons do the tip tanks hold?
Thanks for watching and the "tips" hold 50 (300 lbs) each. Average burn is 24-25 GPH and the total available is 160 gallons (960 LBS)..
Donizete Braganca Paulista sp. Brasil
Sure hope you contacted the airport manager for permission to operate your drone on the airport property.
BO Pilot yes as well as no jumpers at the airport
0:56 - you elect not to show magnetic headings/tracks on your plog - that would give the benefit of a gps cross check. Also you list the airplane suffix as 310/L isnt it 310/G ?
Dave, Yes I updated the FLTPLAN.COM for ICAO and lists as /L but is /G. I will try to show more mag headings from the compass to demonstrate headings.Thanks for watching. Stay safe!!
You don't fly like an old lady you just love your airplane and want to be close to it . ....I get it.
Thank you for watching . I just find myself sitting forward almost trying to see more through the windscreen, LOL. Stay safe!!
I love watching your flights. Especially when it is a black guy and a great example for black kids!
Nature and the airplane doesn't care he's black.
I want to be in the plane with the guy with no shirt and shorts... Mile high club kinda stuff.
@11:14 - I didnt know it was ok to press ident when not requested
Yes, it only highlights indication on scope for ATC. I don't always but if picking up clearance, I highlight to ensure traffic separation.