I test drove one today. Was almost faultless. I was sceptical about the CVT and underpowered engine. After the test drive, I was happy with how it drove. Not quick, but as a family car that you drive on the road, it's perfectly adequate for what it's designed to do. Super comfortable, heaps of room. Very impressed.
Tom’s reviews have guided two car purchases in less than 12 months. He has cost my household over $150,000 but has left us very happy. Chasing Cars continues to be the best car channel on CZcams and it is Australian!
@@robertceroli3512 exactly, doesn’t have to be crazy upgrades but a few choice ones to make you feel you bought something different. Rather than something that looks like it went to super cheap.
Test drove the 2.5 sport and loved it so much I bought one. The engine is easily enough for me. Not an exciting drive but plenty enough power for almost anyone.
Test drove one last week. I was so excited about this car. Got super excited when I seen it released and headed straight to the dealership. What a disappointment. It's slow and sluggish of the line. It needs more power. We need the turbo in Australia. Subaru make it happen.
@@petron1954 It felt sluggish from a standing start. Once it was up to speed it was fine. I drove a Forester straight after and it was much more responsive. Personally, I would have went for a sport as I feel its the sweet spot of the range.
@@scallenoz I thought the Sport would be the pick, however the wife was disappointed when she looked. Preferred the Touring. Like you I would like a turbo version.
@@petron1954 the touring certainly is a nicer place to be and I like the upgraded stereo. I liked the sport for the water repellant seats (I've 2 young kids) and I have no need for a sunroof as I planned to put a roof cage on it. It also had beefier roof rails.
@@scallenoz “it felt sluggish from the start”...I’m curious because I’m seriously considering buying an Outback, and I’ve only had turbos over the last 12-15 years (A4, A6, Volvo V60 etc). Surely for normal day to day driving the outback would be adequate? I mean, I’m not the type of guy who feels the need to burn away from the lights, nor do I feel the need to pretend I’m a tarmac rally driver. I guess what I’m asking, is the engine suitable for the school drop off, sport pick pick up, work commute...but also the odd trip to the bush for mountain biking, bush roads for camping etc?? TIA
I test drove the 2.5i CVT Outback. Many people here hate in this powertrain I found it perfectly adequate and perfectly smooth for a family car. And I don't think anything in the class is as comfortable as the Outback.
I would buy this in a flash if it had the turbo motor. Wouldn’t bother now with so many competitors offering better value at that price range. New Santa fe or Sorrento another 15kw and nearly double the torque with their diesel and only 7l/100 economy....
I had the out going premium model, great comfortable wagon. If Subaru was to bring a turbo Outback or Forrester to Australia I would be back on the Subaru band wagon. For now I felt the Hyundai turbo motors were at an advantage. Subaru AU needs to do a bit of foot stomping to get a more powerful power plant option for both cars
This new subie outback actually comes at the right time. Looking to upgrade the wife's sedan but I don't want a boring SUV like everyone else. This is the most practical you can get with space for the kids, bikes, outdoor stuff and her daily grind hauling work stuff. The 'ruggedness' is an added plus since the wife is a little function over form kind of person (in other words clumsy). The base spec is spot on, without looking like a base spec too. Kudos to subaru for that. Personally I'd probably be underwhelmed with lack of performance but won't be my car at the end of the day.
Base spec is awesome on this years model. Wouldn’t hesitate to get one. Wish more cars came with electric cloth seats! As for power, I really struggle to understand the complaints. If you’re used to a v8 or turbo car yes it’s gonna be slower. I have an older Outback with a 2.5L 4 cylinder and it’s totally competent. You’re not gonna be making touch and go highway overtakes, but it is more than fine aside from that.
Have had a Liberty with the 2.5 for ten years and very happy with it. The CVT allows the engine to rev freely when you need a bit of grunt, but back off for great fuel figures when highway cruising. My opinion won't convince everybody, as I'm an old fart with no demerit points, but I still like to get moving, and if I'm driving a WRX, my travel times are the same.
The ride, AWD, safety, finish, full size spare etc would have made this an ideal car for Australian country driving but we have to look elswhere because of the marketing mistake not to bring in the turbo engine. Subaru, what were you thinking?
Turbo for the new Outback please Subaru. My present 2017 Outback is 6 cyl and apart from the seats which tend to be a trifle hard and uncomfortable after sitting in them after a while, I love it for it's amazing features and amenity and it's fast pulling strength and zip under load. I wouldn't consider buying a new Outback without similar pulling torque and power.
We have a Forester XT turbo 2017 and the Outback non turbo 2018. The Outback is a very practical, comfortable car and has a little more of a premium feel to it than the Forester without the Forester feeling "shabby". Highway cruising in the Outback is very stable, even when loaded up to the brim. If you are going 120 km/h (or more) the Outback feels very stable and the Forester sways a little more. The Forester never feels unsafe though and is more fun to drive. Overtaking and getting out in traffic is a breeze with the turbo. When you are up and running the Outback wins out for comfort though and it doesn't feel sluggish while your are at your target speed. The Outback feels a little peppier when the engine is warmed up but it is a bit on the slower side - if you like fast acceleration and for some the droing sound when flooring it is ear grating. I don't mind though I prefer the older Outbacks (pre CVT) for sure in this regard. In all other aspects the new generation Outbacks are capable and smooth driving cars. Other than acceleration - and sometimes when overtaking - the Outback is a great daily driver. There is a simply solution to that predicament: put the turbo in the Outback. Done. I am very jealous at the 'muricans since I really enjoy the loading capacity and comfort of the Outback and with the turbo I would definitely go for it. It won't happen for emission reasons here in Europe I am sure so I am not holding my breath.
Tom, I have a 2018 Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg Edition and it comes with a Full Size (19 inch) Alloy Spare wheel. In fact, this car is a replacement of my previous 2016 VW Passat 140TDI Highline Wagon, which also came with a full size (18 inch in this case) spare wheel. Actually, all my previous Passat's B6 / B7 all had full size spare wheels). My ŠKODA Superb 206TSI 4x4 on the other hand, makes do with a Space Saver spare wheel...
Thanks for the additional detail - I have put a request in to Volkswagen to find out whether the incoming facelifted Passat Alltrack continues with a full size spare, and when I find out I will add a correction if I've got it wrong.
Finally, using Indonesian language subtitle. I am loyal subscriber from Indonesia. Always waiting for your new car review. Thank you. Subaru is one of the best car in performance. But in Indonesia is not good in selling because its expensive price.
I have always thought that Subaru's were very popular here in Australia, but not as much as the USA, even thought that has changed over the last few years. So why are the Aussie's missing out on the more powerful model and the options for a manual. You would think Subaru would look after their loyal customer base, not short change them. Also why are the "capped" servicing price so expensive? 300-800 for a service is ridiculous. I have owned my current car for 7 years and have never paid more then $320 for a service. if the dealership is charging $800 for one capped service, I'd hate to know what they charge normally.
Great review. It's a shame, this was #1 on the list to replace my VF Commodore wagon. Pretty sure the outback would be fine for 80% of my driving but the times when I've got 4 adults plus my boat hitched up, I dont think the non- turbo engine will be enough and I do worry about the cvt ref towing. I don't need 7 seats or 4wd, but AWD was on the list for snow trips, as I hate putting the chains on the commo. The pajero sport is looking the goods so far.
Keen for a 2021 wagon comparison vid. Could we get it in cost classes? Cos I wouldn't compare the Skoda Superb Scout with the Outback - it's nearly $20k more and more on par with Volvo V60 imo. Especially with the new Octavia Style just dropping.
Love the new Subaru Ad, interior looks really nice and exterior looks even better in that green colour. Im seriously thinking of swapping my M6 for the Outback, missing good old days when I was younger and also owned super reliable Subaru B4.
Great review. Drove one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. However my 2014 Forester XT turbo would have thrashed it over taking and towing. Definitely need the turbo option on this Outback.
that turbo will come to Australia probably next year. We always get ripped off. Subaru Forrester sport was released in the US 2 years ago, we just got it in Australia and it's sold as the same price and "new".
There must be whole car market full of people who just don't care about proper driving performance. Cars that can't pull the skin off a rice custard just don't cut the mustard in my books. I'm just talking about decent performance not head smacking G-Forces - Come on Subaru - it's just not good enough. 83.1 Kw/Tonne - it's like something from the mid 90's.
Agreed. Quite a disappointing delay. There have been issues with production capacity in Japan across a range of Subaru models for RHD markets including Australia.
@@derekharvey5257 I'd be calling them every week to try and buy it, unlike the current situation where the local dealer is calling me every couple of weeks, no matter how much I say to them 'please only call me when you get a turbo!'
Excellent review thanks Tom. A long term Subaru owner, I am currently driving a 2017 premium Outback which has been a nice car to own, however I was looking forward to trading it this year on a new turbo Outback. Whatever has happened at Subaru, the gurus of turbo development a few years ago?? I guess our only recourse to Subaru is to express our disappointment at the lack of a turbo option being made available, in the hope that they may be listening!! Cheers, Mark.
Test drove the touring variant recently. Perfect vehicle, if it was n't for the underwhelming performance. I am ready to buy now, but will hold off until 2.4T engine arrives. Slightly higher ground clearance would be good too.
Nice looking car with good features but I still wouldn’t buy it because it’s slow and sluggish. However had the engine been punchier (turbo charged) I would definitely consider it.
Would love to see the XT version here. Lament the demise of the Forester XT. Currently I drive a Levorg & the Outback XT would be the perfect next vehicle for my growing family for daily driving, weekend sport & camping trips. Hopefully don’t have to look to another brand for the mix of driving excitement & practicality I need. Enjoyed the review.
The one great change on the Sport model. They got rid of the most useless roof rack ever. So thankful for the new roof rails! Back to carry two kayaks.
What Subaru should offer is a retune or stage 1-3 sports tune of any cars people buy from a dealership. That way a new owner who wants more power can get this done to breathe some extra ponies into the engine.
100% agree with the summary. I’ve had 2 Outbacks, diesel and a 2.5. Loved them both but the 2.5 was just underpowered, and frankly a liability in certain situations with a full load on the highway. Currently have a 162TSi Tiguan, which I really like too but it’s a bit small and expensive. I’m ordering my next car in April and have been waiting for the new Outback with the turbo 2.4, but sadly my next car now will not be an Outback 😭😭😭
Andrew - in rank order and before driving them all: - Skoda Kodiaq RS - Kia Sorento GTline (diesel) - Toyota RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid AWD - Subi Outback Touring (to drive at least but v. unlikely to buy the 2.5)
@@altbinhax Probably doesn't help that we have some of the shittest fuel standards so it doeasn't make business sense to tune and spec a car just for our market.
@@Neon8787 really, tell Porsche, benz, Italian exotics, that hasn't stopped them Japan has had 30 years of central bank interventions and that's more of a factor.
I was going to buy the forrester sport but I realised that it's a 2 year old car. It was released 2 years ago in the US and it's still priced as "new". Very disappointed.
I have a 2012 manual forester and would be interested in ugrading to an outback but only if it came in the 2.4 ltr turbo. Please bring it to australia. We always seem to miss out on the good stuff that counts.
Im here in New Zealand and echo those sentiments , same problem that dogged the XV , no different power or turbo options. Get those torque levels up for going up the mountains where this vehicle belongs
I test drove one today. Nice car and I used the paddle shifters. I like it . use the auto CVT and its ok and then the manual mode I found good. Ride and handling and steering excellent . not fast like my old Ford Territory Turbo but I am getting older and
Having played with the Gen6 infotainment system today, it's definitely better than the Gen5 in terms of responsiveness, but falls short of being responsive as a consumer tablet device. It's not a deal breaker in my books.
Hey Subaru, listen to what Tom and several other new car reviewers have to say about the inadequacy of the (90% new components) 2.5 litre petrol engine on an all new platform. Subaru just lost another Outback sale as I'm off to Hyundai for a 2021 Santa Fe.
I'm fine with the 2.5 motor, current drive is a Skoda Octavia 1.4 wagon, I'm replacing it with an Outback touring. Skoda and VW have discontinued the Golf Alltrack Wagon and Skoda Octavia Scouts, in favour of the more expensive Skoda Superb Scout and VW Passat Alltrack, both of which are good, but $10k out of my price bracket. My Touring with everything + Explorer pack cost only $49k
Thanks for the great Review. Not buying one until they have the Turbo here in Australia and a bit of grunt. Coming from V6 Commodore Wagons, you need power out on the highway for long trips.
I bought a new car this year, and this was on the shortlist. It was removed from the shortlist because of the lack of turbo. I actually ended up buying a Skoda Kodiaq. Cmon Subaru, sort it out.
Tom, I see you often mark down a car slightly for having no easily accessed or physical fan control, even if the dual zone temperature controls are physical buttons/dials or easily accessed. I'm not sure how you, or most others use their dual zone systems, but I have a VF Commodore, which does have a physical fan dial as well as the dual zone dials, and I find I only touch the fan dial about 1% of the time that i adjust the climate system, 99% of the time I'm just changing the dual zone temperature and letting the car look after the rest. Maybe I'm one of the rare people who use it this way, although I presume this was the aim of an automatic climate control system, but I'd have no issue with not having an easily accessed fan control.
A one touch button to turn the central screen black, on the other hand, would be brilliant! As it is, I have to hit "settings", scroll to "display options" and then scroll to "turn display off" to achieve this. I'd gladly sacrifice the fan control dial for this!
I understand that - there are two camps. Those who like auto climate control to direct the fan speed, and those who prefer to manipulate the fan speed at will (I’m in the latter of course, and should probably flag that!)
@@chasingcars No worries, understood. I must sympathise with you when the dual zone controls are part of a touch screen. Our 2018 Volvo XC60 has this, and i find it pretty annoying!
I'm like you in that I rarely touch the fan control as the idea of Climate Control is that the car will compensate if it sees a need for a higher or lower fan speed. When getting into a hot car, the fan will automatically adjust to a higher speed, although not immediately, as occupants don't wish to get an initial blast of hot air that has been building up in the system.
Subaru has always been a conservative company but willing to adopt technology when it reaches maturity...like adaptive cruise control and lane centering...
Is an off-road and towing review of the Touring model coming please? It’s disappointing no turbo or 3.6 option and I’m sceptical that this release is “up to the job”. Also are the roof racks improved? Thanks!
If past history is anything to go by this will be a good vehicle. Styling is an individual thing. I had one and the rest makes up for the looks. Would buy again if I needed this sector. The 3.6 was a bit thirsty but that was just me having a lead foot. Hope they've improved the audio tho.
Why has Subaru decided not to sell the Turbo in Australia? Do they understand our market? We were really excited about updating our fantastic Impreza when the Outback landed but without any exciting engine (the 2.4 turbo) we will be looking elsewhere unfortunately.
Journalists banging on about wireless CarPlay is just not necessary. Most people need / want to charge their phones in the car anyway so wired CarPlay just isn’t an issue.
Outbacks are great cars - and I like that Subaru haven't followed the ugly trend with tombstone - style front seat backs. And they have to bring hybrid tech (or turbo) to that engine to offer some grunt.
For a family car the power isn’t bad, I’ve got a wrx as well and yea it doesn’t compare but also the wrx is small and has harsh suspension this ticks all the boxes for my family
Subaru: bring the Outback turbo!
The outback looks good yep a Turbo will make it a game changer
Yaaaass! Bring the Outback Turbo!
Business case is underway issue is only for US market at the moment
I want a turbo!
You tell them Tom
I test drove one today. Was almost faultless. I was sceptical about the CVT and underpowered engine. After the test drive, I was happy with how it drove. Not quick, but as a family car that you drive on the road, it's perfectly adequate for what it's designed to do. Super comfortable, heaps of room. Very impressed.
It is a perfect car.
Don't know what all the crying about power is about.
Also test drove one and 100% adequate engine wise. Turbo model should be a weapon really and not needed for most people buying this type of car.
I’m trading in my XV 16 to upgrade OB 23, tested drive and I felt that enough power for everyday around town/highway in Sydney 😂
Tom’s reviews have guided two car purchases in less than 12 months.
He has cost my household over $150,000 but has left us very happy.
Chasing Cars continues to be the best car channel on CZcams and it is Australian!
no need for turbo, goes fine with enough power, great for city and off road driving.
I remember a time when the sport badge actually meant something on a car.
Yeh like a eng performance upgrade so the car had more herbs than the standard run of the mill model
@@robertceroli3512 exactly, doesn’t have to be crazy upgrades but a few choice ones to make you feel you bought something different. Rather than something that looks like it went to super cheap.
Because they try now represent power with status
They should have called it the Onyx model, it would suit much better.
This more outdoorsy spec seems to be called the "field" in the UK market, more suitable name I think.
Test drove the 2.5 sport and loved it so much I bought one. The engine is easily enough for me. Not an exciting drive but plenty enough power for almost anyone.
Test drove one last week. I was so excited about this car. Got super excited when I seen it released and headed straight to the dealership. What a disappointment. It's slow and sluggish of the line. It needs more power. We need the turbo in Australia. Subaru make it happen.
What was the car really like to drive as I am interested in purchasing a Touring model.
@@petron1954 It felt sluggish from a standing start. Once it was up to speed it was fine. I drove a Forester straight after and it was much more responsive. Personally, I would have went for a sport as I feel its the sweet spot of the range.
@@scallenoz I thought the Sport would be the pick, however the wife was disappointed when she looked. Preferred the Touring. Like you I would like a turbo version.
@@petron1954 the touring certainly is a nicer place to be and I like the upgraded stereo. I liked the sport for the water repellant seats (I've 2 young kids) and I have no need for a sunroof as I planned to put a roof cage on it. It also had beefier roof rails.
@@scallenoz “it felt sluggish from the start”...I’m curious because I’m seriously considering buying an Outback, and I’ve only had turbos over the last 12-15 years (A4, A6, Volvo V60 etc). Surely for normal day to day driving the outback would be adequate? I mean, I’m not the type of guy who feels the need to burn away from the lights, nor do I feel the need to pretend I’m a tarmac rally driver. I guess what I’m asking, is the engine suitable for the school drop off, sport pick pick up, work commute...but also the odd trip to the bush for mountain biking, bush roads for camping etc?? TIA
I test drove the 2.5i CVT Outback. Many people here hate in this powertrain I found it perfectly adequate and perfectly smooth for a family car. And I don't think anything in the class is as comfortable as the Outback.
Tom, took a Skoda 200TSI Scout for a test drive today. Bye Subaru & thanks for forcing me to look at something better at the same price
Ken, for me the space saver on the Skoda is a ‘deal breaker’
But scout is not better overall, just the engine. And vag has dropped the quality lately. Audi owner
Do you get a grey cardigan with it or is that an optional extra?
“Certainly the chassis can handle the power and torque of the turbo” .... sounded to me like an invite for mods...😁
"A knob would have done the job a little better." Hilarious! Another excellent car video btw.
As always, a great review. Head & shoulders better & more informative than the rest.
Was considering this model as my next drive but Subaru has really missed the mark with the engine.
I would buy this in a flash if it had the turbo motor. Wouldn’t bother now with so many competitors offering better value at that price range. New Santa fe or Sorrento another 15kw and nearly double the torque with their diesel and only 7l/100 economy....
Yep, weak engine with horrid consumption and high C02 = insane taxes.
No Hyundai or Kia will take you to the places the Outback would, keep that in mind.
Love my 2020 XT here in Canada. Beast of a vehicle.
I had the out going premium model, great comfortable wagon. If Subaru was to bring a turbo Outback or Forrester to Australia I would be back on the Subaru band wagon. For now I felt the Hyundai turbo motors were at an advantage.
Subaru AU needs to do a bit of foot stomping to get a more powerful power plant option for both cars
This new subie outback actually comes at the right time. Looking to upgrade the wife's sedan but I don't want a boring SUV like everyone else. This is the most practical you can get with space for the kids, bikes, outdoor stuff and her daily grind hauling work stuff. The 'ruggedness' is an added plus since the wife is a little function over form kind of person (in other words clumsy). The base spec is spot on, without looking like a base spec too. Kudos to subaru for that. Personally I'd probably be underwhelmed with lack of performance but won't be my car at the end of the day.
Base spec is awesome on this years model. Wouldn’t hesitate to get one. Wish more cars came with electric cloth seats!
As for power, I really struggle to understand the complaints. If you’re used to a v8 or turbo car yes it’s gonna be slower. I have an older Outback with a 2.5L 4 cylinder and it’s totally competent. You’re not gonna be making touch and go highway overtakes, but it is more than fine aside from that.
Good to hear - I am sick of seeing comments saying people are getting some stock standard SUV.
Have had a Liberty with the 2.5 for ten years and very happy with it. The CVT allows the engine to rev freely when you need a bit of grunt, but back off for great fuel figures when highway cruising.
My opinion won't convince everybody, as I'm an old fart with no demerit points, but I still like to get moving, and if I'm driving a WRX, my travel times are the same.
2010 Outback with 2.5 checking in here. Driven a lot on country roads. Totally adequate for passing B-double trucks in good time.
The ride, AWD, safety, finish, full size spare etc would have made this an ideal car for Australian country driving but we have to look elswhere because of the marketing mistake not to bring in the turbo engine. Subaru, what were you thinking?
Without turbo it is more then fast enough for normal driving, and it lasts longer.
Turbo for the new Outback please Subaru. My present 2017 Outback is 6 cyl and apart from the seats which tend to be a trifle hard and uncomfortable after sitting in them after a while, I love it for it's amazing features and amenity and it's fast pulling strength and zip under load. I wouldn't consider buying a new Outback without similar pulling torque and power.
I want the outback, the mrs wants the forester, so Ill compromise with her and get the outback 😁
We have a Forester XT turbo 2017 and the Outback non turbo 2018. The Outback is a very practical, comfortable car and has a little more of a premium feel to it than the Forester without the Forester feeling "shabby". Highway cruising in the Outback is very stable, even when loaded up to the brim. If you are going 120 km/h (or more) the Outback feels very stable and the Forester sways a little more. The Forester never feels unsafe though and is more fun to drive. Overtaking and getting out in traffic is a breeze with the turbo. When you are up and running the Outback wins out for comfort though and it doesn't feel sluggish while your are at your target speed. The Outback feels a little peppier when the engine is warmed up but it is a bit on the slower side - if you like fast acceleration and for some the droing sound when flooring it is ear grating. I don't mind though I prefer the older Outbacks (pre CVT) for sure in this regard. In all other aspects the new generation Outbacks are capable and smooth driving cars.
Other than acceleration - and sometimes when overtaking - the Outback is a great daily driver.
There is a simply solution to that predicament: put the turbo in the Outback. Done. I am very jealous at the 'muricans since I really enjoy the loading capacity and comfort of the Outback and with the turbo I would definitely go for it. It won't happen for emission reasons here in Europe I am sure so I am not holding my breath.
Tom, I have a 2018 Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg Edition and it comes with a Full Size (19 inch) Alloy Spare wheel. In fact, this car is a replacement of my previous 2016 VW Passat 140TDI Highline Wagon, which also came with a full size (18 inch in this case) spare wheel. Actually, all my previous Passat's B6 / B7 all had full size spare wheels). My ŠKODA Superb 206TSI 4x4 on the other hand, makes do with a Space Saver spare wheel...
Thanks for the additional detail - I have put a request in to Volkswagen to find out whether the incoming facelifted Passat Alltrack continues with a full size spare, and when I find out I will add a correction if I've got it wrong.
Finally, using Indonesian language subtitle. I am loyal subscriber from Indonesia. Always waiting for your new car review. Thank you.
Subaru is one of the best car in performance. But in Indonesia is not good in selling because its expensive price.
Definitely needs the turbo version!
I just ordered a outback sport. Love the design, but will be more than happy to see australia brings in the turbo engine.
I have always thought that Subaru's were very popular here in Australia, but not as much as the USA, even thought that has changed over the last few years. So why are the Aussie's missing out on the more powerful model and the options for a manual. You would think Subaru would look after their loyal customer base, not short change them. Also why are the "capped" servicing price so expensive? 300-800 for a service is ridiculous. I have owned my current car for 7 years and have never paid more then $320 for a service. if the dealership is charging $800 for one capped service, I'd hate to know what they charge normally.
You do understand Australian dollars are worth 30% less then US right?
@@ekimandersom4478 Ummm Australians pay twice as much as the USA does for cars.
Great honest review Tom (love the reference to 🌚 and ☀️). Please review BMW 128 ti. At least with that car you won't be saying it's underpowered.😅
Great review.
It's a shame, this was #1 on the list to replace my VF Commodore wagon. Pretty sure the outback would be fine for 80% of my driving but the times when I've got 4 adults plus my boat hitched up, I dont think the non- turbo engine will be enough and I do worry about the cvt ref towing.
I don't need 7 seats or 4wd, but AWD was on the list for snow trips, as I hate putting the chains on the commo.
The pajero sport is looking the goods so far.
Yep the Pajero sport moved up on my list. I was excited when this came out but sadly it's overpriced for what you're getting.
Tom I like your reviews
Would seriously buy this over an SUV EXCEPT FOR THE PATHETIC ENGINE. bring on the 190kw XT and I’d buy one tomorrow
Keen for a 2021 wagon comparison vid. Could we get it in cost classes? Cos I wouldn't compare the Skoda Superb Scout with the Outback - it's nearly $20k more and more on par with Volvo V60 imo. Especially with the new Octavia Style just dropping.
Love the new Subaru Ad, interior looks really nice and exterior looks even better in that green colour. Im seriously thinking of swapping my M6 for the Outback, missing good old days when I was younger and also owned super reliable Subaru B4.
Great review. Drove one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. However my 2014 Forester XT turbo would have thrashed it over taking and towing. Definitely need the turbo option on this Outback.
that turbo will come to Australia probably next year. We always get ripped off. Subaru Forrester sport was released in the US 2 years ago, we just got it in Australia and it's sold as the same price and "new".
There must be whole car market full of people who just don't care about proper driving performance. Cars that can't pull the skin off a rice custard just don't cut the mustard in my books. I'm just talking about decent performance not head smacking G-Forces - Come on Subaru - it's just not good enough. 83.1 Kw/Tonne - it's like something from the mid 90's.
It's surprising that the revised outback has been available in NA for >1.5 years when it's been incredibly popular in the australian market
Agreed. Quite a disappointing delay. There have been issues with production capacity in Japan across a range of Subaru models for RHD markets including Australia.
Shame the 2.4L Turbo offered overseas is not made available in Aus. C’mon Subaru Aus - we deserve the Turbo.
I have had Subaru's for 22 years all of them TURBOS and yes I want be buying a new one unless this option returns.
No turbo, no sale
Forget the Turbo; I want one in all electric. Come on Subaru!
Was waiting for this!! Looks great! Thanks Tom ❤️❤️
I would pay way too much money for this in a turbo. That's all I want, out of any car in the world! come on Subaru!
Same. If the turbo 2.4 comes I’ll be “TAKE MY MONEY NOW!”
@@derekharvey5257 I'd be calling them every week to try and buy it, unlike the current situation where the local dealer is calling me every couple of weeks, no matter how much I say to them 'please only call me when you get a turbo!'
I agree. I was looking forward to changing from my 2018 3.6 litre Outback. Now I will wait, need more than the current engine can provide.
It’s simple, as a former WRX owner looking for an ‘Outback’ kind of car, no turbo, no buy!!
Excellent review thanks Tom. A long term Subaru owner, I am currently driving a 2017 premium Outback which has been a nice car to own, however I was looking forward to trading it this year on a new turbo Outback. Whatever has happened at Subaru, the gurus of turbo development a few years ago?? I guess our only recourse to Subaru is to express our disappointment at the lack of a turbo option being made available, in the hope that they may be listening!! Cheers, Mark.
Interesting Outback turbo would be nice and irresistible for buyers.
Agreed. Bring the turbo, Subaru!
Test drove the touring variant recently. Perfect vehicle, if it was n't for the underwhelming performance. I am ready to buy now, but will hold off until 2.4T engine arrives. Slightly higher ground clearance would be good too.
Nice looking car with good features but I still wouldn’t buy it because it’s slow and sluggish. However had the engine been punchier (turbo charged) I would definitely consider it.
Hi Tom, thanks for the awesome review. Would you be able to review the new SsangYong Rexton Ultimate when you can? Thanks.
Would love to see the XT version here. Lament the demise of the Forester XT. Currently I drive a Levorg & the Outback XT would be the perfect next vehicle for my growing family for daily driving, weekend sport & camping trips. Hopefully don’t have to look to another brand for the mix of driving excitement & practicality I need. Enjoyed the review.
The one great change on the Sport model. They got rid of the most useless roof rack ever. So thankful for the new roof rails! Back to carry two kayaks.
What Subaru should offer is a retune or stage 1-3 sports tune of any cars people buy from a dealership. That way a new owner who wants more power can get this done to breathe some extra ponies into the engine.
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. Arriving In Europe this Spring
100% agree with the summary. I’ve had 2 Outbacks, diesel and a 2.5. Loved them both but the 2.5 was just underpowered, and frankly a liability in certain situations with a full load on the highway. Currently have a 162TSi Tiguan, which I really like too but it’s a bit small and expensive. I’m ordering my next car in April and have been waiting for the new Outback with the turbo 2.4, but sadly my next car now will not be an Outback 😭😭😭
Which cars are on your shortlist?
Andrew - in rank order and before driving them all:
- Skoda Kodiaq RS
- Kia Sorento GTline (diesel)
- Toyota RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid AWD
- Subi Outback Touring (to drive at least but v. unlikely to buy the 2.5)
Same. Weird. It is a bit sad even though it’s ‘only a car’
Safety very important... can't go fast enough to hurt yourself.
Oh dear, they have gone lobster claw tail lights. Looks like a good package overall, I just wish it had an Asian 8 speed auto and offered a turbo.
Not as bad as the Forester's taillights I reckon
@@chasingcars Definitely
@@chasingcars foresters tail lights are the last of its problems looks wise 😅
Turbo and a decent gearbox thanks.
Subaru: Aussie don't deserve a 2.4 turbo
@7 we're talking about 2.4 turbo petrol not diesel tho.
I have always loved Subaru cars in terms of form. But without some engine upgrades they are useless. The engine is a lawnmower.
Overweight overpriced and underpowered no turbo no care..
Subaru have become lazy and treat the Oz market like the poor second cousin. Meh.
@@altbinhax Probably doesn't help that we have some of the shittest fuel standards so it doeasn't make business sense to tune and spec a car just for our market.
@@Neon8787 really, tell Porsche, benz, Italian exotics, that hasn't stopped them Japan has had 30 years of central bank interventions and that's more of a factor.
I was going to buy the forrester sport but I realised that it's a 2 year old car. It was released 2 years ago in the US and it's still priced as "new". Very disappointed.
why only North America selfishly gets the turbo XT is beyond me
Good review thanks from Panama,C America.
I have a 2012 manual forester and would be interested in ugrading to an outback but only if it came in the 2.4 ltr turbo. Please bring it to australia. We always seem to miss out on the good stuff that counts.
yeah, the turbo would be good if you want it
Excellent review. Lovely car but unfortunately here in Ireland, the annual road tax is €790, because of it's high emissions
Im here in New Zealand and echo those sentiments , same problem that dogged the XV , no different power or turbo options. Get those torque levels up for going up the mountains where this vehicle belongs
Must be tough going from an E63S to this hah
I test drove one today. Nice car and I used the paddle shifters. I like it . use the auto CVT and its ok and then the manual mode I found good. Ride and handling and steering excellent . not fast like my old Ford Territory Turbo but I am getting older and
Can you please review 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness if it's coming to Australia.
I cant tell if the footage is slowed down or if the infotainment system is laggy af
The latter I’m afraid
Having played with the Gen6 infotainment system today, it's definitely better than the Gen5 in terms of responsiveness, but falls short of being responsive as a consumer tablet device. It's not a deal breaker in my books.
Went for a test drive - really nice - but lack of power lets this down. Would have bought if more powerful
Would buy one tomorrow but not gutless NA and CVT. Turbo or enhanced power YES Auto box 6,7 or 8 speed HELL YES!
Hey Subaru, listen to what Tom and several other new car reviewers have to say about the inadequacy of the (90% new components) 2.5 litre petrol engine on an all new platform. Subaru just lost another Outback sale as I'm off to Hyundai for a 2021 Santa Fe.
Tom, took a demo for test drive. Sounds like a sewing machine run by an elastic band. Not for me, no guts
Could do a review of volvo v90 cross country. Thx.
I'm fine with the 2.5 motor, current drive is a Skoda Octavia 1.4 wagon, I'm replacing it with an Outback touring. Skoda and VW have discontinued the Golf Alltrack Wagon and Skoda Octavia Scouts, in favour of the more expensive Skoda Superb Scout and VW Passat Alltrack, both of which are good, but $10k out of my price bracket. My Touring with everything + Explorer pack cost only $49k
Thanks for the great Review. Not buying one until they have the Turbo here in Australia and a bit of grunt. Coming from V6 Commodore Wagons, you need power out on the highway for long trips.
Good review! What is the colour of the car in this video?
Test drove this and way better than the new Sportage 2022 GT. Buying this..
Looks green
interesting to see that in this version the front bumper black plastic looks pointy compared to the one sold in the US
I was going to update if there was a turbo option😳
You didn't tell us the prices of the 3 models .
Google it
Prices for this Outback starting in The Netherlands at 93720 Australian dollars ...
I bought a new car this year, and this was on the shortlist. It was removed from the shortlist because of the lack of turbo. I actually ended up buying a Skoda Kodiaq. Cmon Subaru, sort it out.
Tom, I see you often mark down a car slightly for having no easily accessed or physical fan control, even if the dual zone temperature controls are physical buttons/dials or easily accessed.
I'm not sure how you, or most others use their dual zone systems, but I have a VF Commodore, which does have a physical fan dial as well as the dual zone dials, and I find I only touch the fan dial about 1% of the time that i adjust the climate system, 99% of the time I'm just changing the dual zone temperature and letting the car look after the rest.
Maybe I'm one of the rare people who use it this way, although I presume this was the aim of an automatic climate control system, but I'd have no issue with not having an easily accessed fan control.
A one touch button to turn the central screen black, on the other hand, would be brilliant! As it is, I have to hit "settings", scroll to "display options" and then scroll to "turn display off" to achieve this. I'd gladly sacrifice the fan control dial for this!
I understand that - there are two camps. Those who like auto climate control to direct the fan speed, and those who prefer to manipulate the fan speed at will (I’m in the latter of course, and should probably flag that!)
@@chasingcars No worries, understood. I must sympathise with you when the dual zone controls are part of a touch screen. Our 2018 Volvo XC60 has this, and i find it pretty annoying!
I'm like you in that I rarely touch the fan control as the idea of Climate Control is that the car will compensate if it sees a need for a higher or lower fan speed. When getting into a hot car, the fan will automatically adjust to a higher speed, although not immediately, as occupants don't wish to get an initial blast of hot air that has been building up in the system.
They say the turbo engine version is not yet engineered for right-hand drive models
Please Subaru, please please please bring the Turbo engine in. Or at please please please give us a manual option again.
Subaru has always been a conservative company but willing to adopt technology when it reaches maturity...like adaptive cruise control and lane centering...
This would slay the market with the 2.0T from the WRX.
I have a Forester XT 2016... Looking to upgrade... But there is NO upgrade available now! I'd buy a outback xt right away
Is an off-road and towing review of the Touring model coming please? It’s disappointing no turbo or 3.6 option and I’m sceptical that this release is “up to the job”. Also are the roof racks improved? Thanks!
I have a 2017 model outback always wanted to have wider Tyers say 235 instead of the 255 ‘s fitted
If past history is anything to go by this will be a good vehicle. Styling is an individual thing. I had one and the rest makes up for the looks. Would buy again if I needed this sector. The 3.6 was a bit thirsty but that was just me having a lead foot. Hope they've improved the audio tho.
The standard speakers are a bit average (oddly, too bassy?) but I expect the premium stereo on the Touring to be an improvement
Why has Subaru decided not to sell the Turbo in Australia? Do they understand our market? We were really excited about updating our fantastic Impreza when the Outback landed but without any exciting engine (the 2.4 turbo) we will be looking elsewhere unfortunately.
Journalists banging on about wireless CarPlay is just not necessary. Most people need / want to charge their phones in the car anyway so wired CarPlay just isn’t an issue.
You forgot to mention the Recall for brake booster failure & the stop delivery order! 🙄👎
Outbacks are great cars - and I like that Subaru haven't followed the ugly trend with tombstone - style front seat backs.
And they have to bring hybrid tech (or turbo) to that engine to offer some grunt.
Good video mate, cheers.
Thanks 👍
For a family car the power isn’t bad, I’ve got a wrx as well and yea it doesn’t compare but also the wrx is small and has harsh suspension this ticks all the boxes for my family
I think the Forester presents better value and practicality, unless you have to have the big touch screen to control everything.