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The person who you were wondering who they are is the character Talia Fordragon. She is the long lost daughter of Bolvar Fordragon who was the human leader at the Wrathgate and who later took over the mantle of Lich King. She has been a refugee living in Kul Tiras for a long time, since the Second or Third War(Warcrat 2 or Warcraft 3), I can't remember which one. The reveal was a big moment and she does later reunite with her father who she though was long dead as those present at the Fall of the Lich King(Arthus) kept Bolvar's fate mostly secret.
Hey so in regards to her hair, it became that way due to EXTREME magical pressure, she single handedly shielded her inner circle from the equivilant of a nuclear bomb (Mana bomb) Dropped ontop of her city (Theramore) Who's destruction they all blame her for..(Even though Garrosh was the one bombing it) The magical pressure from shielding her friends from the powerful magical artifact bomb was enough to drain the very color out of her hair..She used to be golden blonde entirely.
My favorite Jaina scene is the last one, where she becomes Lord Admiral :)
Her hair turned white because she was in the inner circle of a nuclear bomb and absorbed it's power. Though she survived. It came at a cost. Her sanity nearly broken and the mana bomb left her scarred. That was the city Theramore which she founded and killed her father and his men (Kul'tiras) to insure peace with the Horde. She should have learned never trust the Horde. She watched as the Horde orcs murdered her countrymen so that they can then have peace with the Horde. The guarantee the Horde promised was let us kill your father since he won't accept that the war is over and his men put to the sword. She said, "Okay..." Then they nuked her city 5 years later.
Battle For Azeroth had its bumps but Jaina's ark was truly great.
Not sure if it was answered already, but here's what happened with Jaina in regards to how the Kul'Tirans believe she betrayed them. At the end of Warcraft 3, the Horde and Alliance were on peaceful terms, and the Horde was founding its capital, Orgrimmar, on Kalimdor. At this time, Jaina's father makes his way to Kalimdor looking for Jaina, assumes command of Theramore, and begins attacking the Horde. He does this because he's an old time veteran, and believes that the Horde can never be trusted. Defending themselves, the Horde attacks Theramore and kills Jaina's father. Kul'Tiras blames Jaina for this because she did nothing to help defend Theramore, instead allowing the Horde to kill her father to preserve the peace that had just been created between the Horde and Alliance.
She told Thrall when her father's forces were going to attack, so that they would be prepared. The survivors who fled back to Kul Tiras relayed this information to her mother, and she has been branded a traitor ever since.
Also Jainas father hate the Horde because his son died in a naval battle in the second war I think.
the kul tiran fleet was hyped up in game aswell, the whole reason we were there, so this was so fucking epic
The Stratholme scene is from the Caverns of Time, we went back in time to "help", Uther and Jaina left Arthas what broke him and Jaina kinda too. People are still debating about his choice to purge an entire city, many think he did nothing wrong.
The guy standing on the left is Rhonin, the husband of Sylvanas sister, he died together with the gnome, Kinndy, in the bombing.
And both of her brothers returned :D
It's also from warcraft 3 and depicts a moment wich is the downfall of Arthas.
Up to this point he was crown prince of the Kingdom of Lordareon, loved by all and Paladin student of Uther his mentor and uncle like best friend. (Kinda like Obi Wan and Anakin.)
They fought off orcs but found reports and disturbances by risen dead. Then found plagued grain. After seeing it turn people who ate it into mindless undead that attack everyone and everything, wich is the key for Arthas downfall.
As when they tracked this grain back to the major City of Stratholme He, Uther and Jaina stood before a impossible dessision.
Stand by and let everyone turn, eat and claw family, friends just everything. Then have a unstoppable Zombie horde swarm the Kingdom and effecting more and more.
Or go in and "Purge" as many as booth a Mercy and saving the nearby Villages and the Kingdom.
Booth Uther and Jaina couldnt agree to go in there and kill citizens not yet turned, but who will in the next few hours/minutes anyway.
Arthas insisted and got heated as he called it treason if Uther would not go in with him.
So Uther left with his Knights, and so did Jaina who "coild not watch him do this".
The tragedy of Arthas before he lost his soul was that he loved his Kingdom and family so much that he'd go to ANY lenghs. Even killing a unaware population before they doom all.
So he goes in with his few soldiers. In the ingame "Travel back in time" dungeon you and your group join him as he purges 2-3 people before the entire City turns to bloodcrazed shels of their formet selves and you transition from this shinong pale city to a faccade or fire, smoke, ash and chaos. At thr end of it all taunts a Demon that claims to be respondible for the plague and states "He will wait in Northrend for Arthas"
The pissed off and heartbroken Arthadms at this stage is booth hurt by Jaina and Uther just turning their backs. (As they could have and regret not doing more then. Wich would have prevented what comes next) as well as the death of his people.
He took absolutely no plesure in "Purging" what he loved. And even if it saved the Kingdom to kill them in a closed off space before they could break out, he hated the Demon Mal'ganis for it.
He swore to chase him to the ends of the earth. Up until here he did something moraly grey. A lesser evil to save the entire Kingdom. But not the good guy route to just let it happen snd let hundrets more turn and die.
Now chasing the demon to Northrend the cold icy Kingdom of the Scourge. The Undead faction. Here the cunning demon already prepaired a trap where he swarms Arthas forces and has them all killed, while also hiding a supposed "legendary weapon" nearby wich could save them.
He and Muradin run off to find this Excalibur esc sword that would empower Prince Arthas (Clear Arthur ref.) But unloke Excalibur Frostmourne was a cursed blade put there by design to push Arthas to pick it up.
Muradin warns Arthas that a slobe underndeth the Rock it rests in reads that it will demand a terrible price. Arthas determent vows he'd give up everything to save his people. That he would carry any curse.
And the moment he drops his Paladin Hammer, to pick up the cursed blade he seals his fate.
We assume after the ice around ot bursts qnd it knocks Muradin out that it took Muradins life as a price. But after he uses it to kill Mslganis that it took Arthas entire soul and humsnitx as a price. All but a tiny sliver that is left.
From that moment on the Sword drove his soulless husk insane. And tried to manipulate him.
The entity in the Lich King helmet, Ner'zhul that is. And when he wanted to take over his body once Arthas put on the helmet the Soulless husk won.
Thats why its so beautiful of a growth arc of someone going zo far to safe what he loved, paid his soul. His Empathy and reason for a sword. Then destrpyed his entire Kongdom, killed his father and mentor he loved and much more.
In thr end when he as a Lich King is defeated, the cursed Sword shattered, and the helmet off his head his soul is returned briefly.
Thats where the cold Death Knight loses the blue hue around his eyes and asks his father "Is it over?'. Wich indicated to old WC3 players thst he finally has his soul back.
Now ehen people say "Arthas did nothing wrong" ot os debatable if purging Stratholme, and burning his own ships in northrend zo prevent people from leaving before the demon who would no doubt return is dead was good or bad. Or picking up q cursed blade in young naivety.
But after losong his soul snd dping the opposite of who he was it is hard to tell if you can out that on Arthas the soul stuck in the Sword, or the husk acting on its own without humanity left.
As most of his "evil" actions happemed post frostmourne.
Damn it, the Jaina & her mother scene when she sees everything her daughter has gone through, the weight she is carrying, always bloody gets me.
yup, that scene always makes me tear up
The ink spill on the first cutscene is a bit of foreshadowing for the old gods in the zone that the ink spills on. Also cool because old god are normally associated with tentacles etc and ink is ejected by squids.
oh my gods i never realised that!
One of the coolest thing about that first one is that it's the same shantee. The one we saw first had lyrics about how Jaina betrayed her father and her people, but now we see that this was originally a song of love. It was about a father singing about how he'd return to his daughter. Well, after her betrayal, her people turned that song into a mournful, spiteful song about her deeds.
The younger girl is Taelia Fordragon, lost daughter of Bolvar Fordragon, major lore character and former alliance commander, who sacrificed himself to sit on the very throne that he fought to destroy during the Wrathgate cinematic!
No it isn't Taelia.
@@mezza.7yeah it is, at the scene where she exposed ashvane's crimes
@@Vaishino I thought he meant the young Jaina.
I know Jaina has been in the spotlight for a really long time, but she's still my favorite character. We've seen soo much of her story, but I still want more!
"Ahoy, ahoy, sweet daughter of the Seas.
Ahoy this child be mine.
The Admirals girl, his whole entire world...
For as long,
As stars do shine."
it still gets to me every time I hear it.
Oh btw when she holds the pendent to call the fleet back she hums this.
Many, many years ago--Jaina's father invaded the east-coast of Kalimdor, where Jaina had founded Theramore with the refugees of the Scourge attack, and the orcs had founded Orgrimmar a bit to the north. Jaina had friends in the Horde, and when she found out that her father planned to slaughter the entire city of orcs, she helped them take down her father and his men, by allowing them into her city. She didn't directly kill her father, but she allowed his death to happen to avoid a genocide. In terms of Jaina's hair--it's mostly white due to her over-exposure to mana when Theramore was nuked (a much later battle at Theramore than the one where her father was killed) when Garrosh lead the Horde. She resolves her anger against the Horde in the BFA cinematic 'Crossroads'.
Jainas story always makes me weep. The tornment inside her reflects so well all the selfdoubt any human being has at times about events in our lives or guilt we feel over event/decisions. Really well done by Blizz!!
Some of the absolute best storytelling Blizzard has done in WoW is the character stories. It is such a shame that in the recent expansions those were some of the things that were cut during the development cycles. For example the questline that we were going to get for Baine Bloodhoof during Shadowlands sounded absolutely amazing, but was sadly cut from the full release.
Well, every company had to fight with the insane covid regulation and the failure of the governments.
Was actually a surprise how much they still managed to do.
That's a good observation about Jaina's hair & I'm sure it was no accident. That said I think giving Jaina gray hair & sunken eyes after the mana bomb was a cue to the longtime players: "Jaina isn't an apprentice anymore."
She's been through some shit & she wears it on her face -- so much that her hair has grayed prematurely (a troubling parallel to Arthas, her previous romantic partner whose golden hair turned prematurely gray after his own turmoil, which ultimately ended in becoming the Lich King).
Jaina proves to us that she is stronger than Arthas was. She saves her people & is redeemed whereas Arthas could not come back from his own quest for revenge & it cost his people everything.
For Arthas it was because of his Corrupted State and for Jaina is a better way to compare her with Medivh or Khadgar, more Medivh than Khadgar but Khadgar would work. Magic in Warcraft tears at the essence of the User, Medivh was Described as a man in his early Thirtys whos Hair is already starting to turn Gray because of his extend use of Magic, Khadgar got struck with powerfull magic and turned from early 20 to around 60. It shows how powerfull she is, I would say (not counting in the Nameless Mage Hero/Player Character) are Jaina and Khadgar both at this time the most Strongest Mages in Warcraft Lore who are Alive (Known Alive, because it is a little bit of unknown if Aegwynn is still alive, but for Aegwynn you could argue that she isn't powerfull anymore because she gave her might away and the only reason she would still be alive is Medivh, who is in an unknown state of Alive and dead too... Schrödingers Mages...)
“Lady Ashmane, your orders?!”
“It’s just good business….”
ohhh you missed jaina's entrance cinematic at the lordaeron battle thats is epic
YES
that moment when shes in her daughter minds with all the doubts and regrets and guilt and shoves the illusion aside and embraces 'my daughter' always gets to me
When the Horde goblins under Garrosh' direction dropped the mana bomb on Theramore, killing nearly everyone, Jaina the conciliator went berserk on the Horde, understandably feeling that all her sacrifice to stand for peace had been worse than betrayed. She even expelled the Horde from Dalaran, the neutral city of mages and sought revenge from every angle. Jaina had long ago made Theramore and Dalaran her homes, had not returned to Kul Tiras in many years. So Jaina had all her personal and political history to confront by returning there. By this point her fury had mellowed into melancholy, remorse, and intense self-guilt. These earlier cinematics are a little vague in order that the many cutscenes and in-game conversations the player observes frequently be relevatory. We finally learn SO much about Jaina the person.
At the time, I did indeed get 40s and 50s Hollywood matriarch vibes from Catherine. She could have been played by Joan Crawford, Bette Davis, an older Jane Wyman, maybe Agnes Moorehead reprising her role as Mary Kane.
As players, we participated in gathering most of the evidence against Priscilla. Some of these scenes were in between action-filled play moments, eventually culminating in our chasing down but losing Priscilla, who we later kill as a raid boss. She was a stupid dupe, herself.
I get choked up watching these. The crazy thing is how Blizzard completely blew it on delivery of this xpac. The scattered placement of story inside and outside the game, and really F'ed up game mechanics that players hated. So many players never even saw enough story to follow it, especially in the wake of the most epic level plot. For a story and lore person, it was an amazing xpac, despite having to dig around to get all the episodes.
36:05 is the most touching of all scences, where Jaina is surrounded by peoples she thinks she failed. Fellow Archmage Ronin and her assistant Kinndy Sparkshine, both died when Manabomb destroyed Theramore, Varian died on Broken Shore when she refused to help coordinate assault agains the Burning Legion with the Horde, Uther (behind her) was left alone when Arthas did what he did. Stories of Daelin and Arthas was showed in cinematic.
I don't remember correctly, but did Rhonin push Jaina through a portal to safe her shortly before the explosion?
@@angussharington2374 yes he sacrificed himself to save her.
Jaina purged Daralan of all Bloodelves against Varians wishes. And by purge I mean murdered
addicted to ur reaction videos for wow wish there were more i already binge watched them all thanks for the upload
Jaina was golden blonde until she was exposed to the mana bomb dropped on Theramore. Katherine Proudmoore is gray from age.
Thanks for that I had forgotten why her hair changed.
Did it go white from the stress of Theramore?
@@russellfox4541 It was from the arcane backlash.
Ah man what I like is that you say that it could be a movie. And it’s crazy because with how vast wow lore really is, almost every major character could have their own movie. It’s amazing!
The "mana bomb" those in chat are talking about happened way back in Cataclysm when Garrosh began his campaign to have the Horde consolidate their hold on ALL of Kalimdor, pushing warfronts into Ashenvale (Night Elf territory), and positioning threatening forces in the Barrens near Dustwallow (where Jaina's city-state of Theramore is located). His goal in doing the latter was to draw Alliance leadership to Theramore (which he did fairly successfully) and then drop a mana bomb, a magical nuke that the Blood Elves had developed, on the city and wipe out the Alliance's military commanders and an important Alliance traffic hub all at once.
Garrosh's forces made a feint as if they were massing to attack, drawing in Alliance warships and troops, and then pulled back as the goblin zeppelin sailed overhead with their destructive payload ready to deploy. The Archmage of the Kirin Tor at the time, Rhonin, was in the city aiding Jaina's forces, and saw at the last moment what was about to happen. He erected an arcane shield around the central tower, and held it just long enough against the monumental magical forces unleashed to open a portal and push Jaina through it before his shield collapsed.
After several hours waiting for the arcane eddies to clear enough for her to portal back, Jaina found that those caught in the blast had been transformed into statues of arcane dust, including her lovable Gnome apprentice Kinndy Sparkshine, who disintegrated at her touch. Jaina recovered the stolen Focusing Iris, a blue dragon artifact that empowered the mana bomb, and was about to fully use it's power to summon a literal tidal wave of water elementals to wipe out Orgrimmar, innocents and all, but was talked down by Thrall and Kalecgos. She still had and has an abiding hatred for the Horde now, and has counseled Varian and Anduin on several occasions to end them, as they can no longer be trusted. She only trusts Thrall, and partially Baine Bloodhoof, but that is basically it.
In BfA, Jaina is sent to parley with the Kul Tirans in order to gain the Alliance the use of their fleet, after the devastation wrought by the Legion wiped out most of the Horde and Alliance navies. She and the players end up having to prove ourselves to the various ruling Houses of the island nation, and then we uncover and foil a coup attempt by Priscilla Ashvane, head of House Ashvane, earning us the trust of the Kul Tirans. Jaina's mother Katharine eventually forgives her as well, having journeyed into the dark prison she was held in by an evil drust shaman (Drust are evil death-worshiping Vrykul), and saw what actually happened to her husband in Jaina's memories.
Although if I remember in game it was the prepatch of MoP event for Theramore.
The books you're mentioning where the events in Ashenvale and Theramore happen are Jaina Proudmoore: Tides of War by Christie Golden & Wolfheart by Richard A. Knaak.
not going to lie Tides struck a nerve for me and I love what they did in game by having Kinndy's father light the lights of Dalaran with her appearing joyful and happy, as he remembered her.
Another important lorepiece in regards to the Manabomb was that Jaina was in charge of Theramore after her father died. She kdot it as a neutral city until cataclysm where she stupidly allowed the Alliance to use it as a landing port.
The same forces butchered a whole innocent Tauren Village (The Minotaur guys) and thuds involved her City in the war.
So once Garrosh learned that alot of high ranking alliance officers landed on the city he decided to nukr it all in one go. Instead of a open battle with casualties on the horde.
So while she barwly survived due to anothee mages (Ronin. A fellow studrnt of the Mage City of Dalaran as Jaina who aldo attended this meeting.) She was traunatized and left with pale white hair except a few left locks.
Initially she wanted to flood all of Orgrimmar as retribiution, so a dende populated capital full of elders and children bjt got talked out if it by Thrall and Kalec. A Dragon she was close with.
In this she admits her responsebility for booth her fathers death, but indirectly also the manabomb. It was her actions that git it and tge Kul'tiran Soldiers nuked by cadting away neutrality and aiding one faction of a war.
So she comes to terms with her own failings in more then one way.
I play Horde mostly but I do have Ally toons and I loved the Jaina storyline in BFA. The interaction between her and her mother, her 'depression' where her mother had to 'find her' in the awful memories. That was a good playthrough.
On the far left behind Jaina in the scene where she's captured in the nightmare realm, stands Rhonin. Husband of Vereesa Windrunner, Sylvanas' younger sister and father of two. He died at the bombing of Theramore just moments after he pushed Jaina through a portal he made to save her. She feels guilty, because she survived and Rhonin and Kinndy died that day. In the aftermath she nearly destroyed Orgrimmar with the Focussing Iris (the same artifact, that was used by Garrosh's Mages to build the manabomb). There's a book about all that.
Fun Fact: The Jaina warbringers trailer song is actually the Kul Tiras royal family lullaby sung to her and her brothers when they were kids. But the lyric was actually modified by Kul Tiran people to narrate the facts of Theramore's massacre
the cutscene where kathrine relives jaina's most pivotal moments makes me cry every time
the weight of this scene adds up when you realise that Jaina being the particiapator of every single one of those episodes doesn't need that nightmare dimension to be constantly tortured by these memories all her life
Jaina's story in Battle for Azeroth is my favorite story in ALL of World of Warcraft. It is spectacularly written, animated, and acted. Jaina was my favorite character before this expansion, and after all the s**t she went through in the previous expansions, she deserved this story.
Pamela of Darrowshire is my favorite story... but that's a long quest line. Better just listen to the fan made song instead. Cranius, "Darrowshire"
The saving Jaina quest line in the game is one of the longest and best pieces of story in the entire game
Love your reaction vids. Just been looking to see if you’ve done the sylvanus shattered legacies one, I couldn’t find it. Still get chills when Uther says ‘time is short ranger general’. This one, the sea shanty makes it.
Fir alliance players she's such a sweetheart. The KUL Tiran campaign is worth it aside from the nice cutlass pirate outfit and nice tricorne hats but it's really a trip.
I still wanted to see the Kul fleet clash with the Zan fleet because both fleets are unique in their own way. Kul warships are bulky armored juggernaughts who don't have the overwhelming firepower of modern Alliance warships but can take a brutal beating before even going down as we see in the siege of the Zan capital city, the flagship of Jaina tanks about 7 direct explosive rounds and keeps trucking where the same alliance battleships prior in the story took 1 and sank. On that same note, unlike Horde ships which are typically speedy boarding crafts, Zan warships are entirely artillery based designed for long range duels and basically sieges, a wall of them were enough to tear apart a fleet of Alliance battleships in one salvo but could not easily tear apart the Kul flagship in the raid, but it did cause the other alliance normal warships to break formation and scatter which we briefly see
So it'd of been cool to see the two fleets briefly duke it out, one made of armored juggeranughts and the other of fast artillery cruisers (i know their not cruisers but they had another ship design that I think was the battleship so either they are cruisers or destroyers) which would of been amazing to see
Also if we take in how from Draenor we know the alliance and horde have carriers and submarines, that would of been an amazing feature, sea battles! And you know what? Its not impossible, Blizzard did sea stuff since Cataclysm so seeing more of it would of been fun, I do see why it would of been hard however given that unlike soldiers, you can't easily replace naval ships, and both sides don't exactly have armada's that can be deployed in a moments notice, even in Stormwind and Orgrimmar we can see the two respective shipyards which as an Alliance player mainly, I've never seen more then at least two destroyers and one battleship ever in production at any time and given that the shipyard shares its repairs with all of the Alliance gunship aircrafts, I can see why production of warships is extremely limited thus having warships lost is scetchy at best.
Only one thing I do wonder is what the other race warships were like. Like we've seen Night Elf warships, their small and have archers onboard, we've seen Goblin attack crafts and their larger battle barges (well, one or two battle barge depending on how you think a battle barge is made) but that all said, we've never seen a Draeni warship, granted I imagine a ship made of pure metal and gemstones would not exactly float.
Beautiful storyline for Jaina.
The characters behind Jaina:
From left to right, the friend that saved her life from the bombing of Theramore, but it cost him his (which she feels guilty about)
The little gnome apprentice everyone keeps referring to
Varian Wrynn - you already know how he died
Uther Lightbringer - you can't see him but i recognize his shoulder. He was Arthas' mentor and he and jaine became friends during warcraft 3. They parted ways as she traveled to Kalimdor while Uther stayed behind and was later killed by Arthas - I am sure she feels some remorse from this too since she feels her abandoning Arthas when he was about to wipe out an entire human city contributed to his downfall
Daelin Proudmoore - you already know the jist of it
Arthas- same
Can’t wait to watch you finish the last two cinematics from BFA🎉 There is actually a small in game cutscene you could add to Jaina’s story. The cutscene is called “An unexpected reunion”. That cutscene will also introduce you to Baine Bloodhoof. He is the leader of the Tauren and like Sauerfang he don’t agree with Sylvanas. Baine is a major character too and is absolutely one of my favorites.
So at 36:29 From left to right it looks like: Rhonin, her apprentice, King Varian, her mother and Jaine (in the foreground), behind Jaine while not certain that shoulder looks like that of Uther the Lightbringer (which is foreshadowing his return in Shadowlands), Daylin, and Arthas.
The Kul'Tiran anchor pendant has paralells to King Arthur's sword Excalibur - only the rightful ruler can wield its power. Jaina successfully activating it to rescue the fleet from its arcane entrapment immediately proves that she is the rightful ruler of Kul'Tiras (her mother was ruler of Kul'Tiras only by right of marriage to Daelen, not by blood).
The people behind Jaina that she feels guilt over:
Arthas:
They were lovers and yet, she left him when he decided to purge an entire city of humans that will (most likely) turn into the undead. If she had stayed, he might not have turned into the Lichking:
Daelin Proudmoore:
She let the Horde kill her father after he insisted of eradicating them, firmly believing in piece. Yet, a decade later, it was the same Horde that viewed her as an enemy and eradicated her city.
Varian Wrynn:
The former king of Stormwind always held a strong hatred towards the horde. During Wrath of the Lich King, he helped alliance players liberate undercity from Varimathras' and Putress' betrayal. There, he witnessed what the Forsaken had been up to and tried to kill Sylvanas then and there. But Jaina intervened and teleported us away.
Then during Legion, Varian was seemingly betrayed by the same Sylvanas and died (plus the burning of Teldrassil, the world-war and the shadowlands-expansion). If she had let him, so many lives might not have been lost.
Kinnidy:
She was Jaina's apprentice, but was killed when the Horde nuked Theramore. Her death is one of the reasons that made Jaina turn from a pacifist to hostile to the horde.
Rhonin:
The former leader of the Kirin Tor. He sacrificed himself when the Horde nuked Theramore because he saw something great in her. Jaina succeded him as the leader of Dalaran, but felt that she failed his trust in her and wasted his sacrifice.
I remember seeing Jaina calling the fleet for the first time in game....I lost it. She is hands down my favorite Warcraft character, and she her storyline ROCKED in this expansion. I do wish you had watched the scene when Baine turns her brother, Derek, over to her. That was one in which you get the idea of the fierceness and pure power that she wields. It's like she's willing to destroy everyone around her to keep another Theramore from happening.
She was blonde but when she was caught in the magical explosion which destroyed the city she founded and ruled it turned to what you see now.
Prior to that point Lady Jaina was all about peace. So much so half a decade prior she refused to help her father start a war, and by withholding her aid, she took the fall for him dying in battle later. So the city which was later destroyed despite her best efforts to keep it from war ended up falling anyway, and her father (in her people’s eyes) died for nothing.
25:28 behind her, the people she feels like she failed. Arthas, Her Father, even Varian.
The reason behind Jaina's hair asked at 5:50 is due to the Bombing of Theramore by the Horde during the end of Cataclysm. A mana bomb, think Atomic Bomb in our reality, was dropped over Jaina's city-state of Theramore (As seen in the Jaina Warbringer's cinematic and later own in the video). One of Jaina's friends and leader of the Kirin Tor at the time, Rhonin, kept the explosion within Theramore's walls after pushing Jaina through a portal to safety. Sadly, killing Rhonin and all citizens and Horde soldiers. Due to the fallout of the arcane magic / magical radiation, it caused her blonde hair to turn white, with a single blonde streak through it. - There is a lot more to it though. It can be read from here wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_on_Theramore_Isle
Also fun fact there are 2 actors from Game of Thrones who play Jaina's parents. Daelin is voiced by Mark Addy (King Robert Baratheon) and Katherine is voiced by Indira Varma (Ellaria Sand).
Jaina, is one of my favourite characters. You should read the book War Crimes, story bout garrosh bombing of Theramoore. Theramoore is alliance garrison where Jaina is the leader there. It also explain how Jaina has white/golden hair. Not gonna spoil it :) The story is so good. Recommended to read. The book also explain how Garrosh manage to run back to time (Warlords of Draenor cinematic), they explain it everything. The timeline for the book is post Pandaria expansion, anyone can correct me here?
Such a fantastic book!
the destruction of Theramore, including events before and after, are actually described in detail in "Tides of War" book, including Jaina's rage and attempt for revenge. "War Crimes" adds some bits and pieces to colour the character details, partially for this event as well, but rather portrays the development of multiple prominent characters from WoW lore. Both are great for further understanding the Warcraft universe :)
@@t.p.6034 right, i read that too, i must have mixed them both, this was soo many years ago, i think war crimes is more on trials of garrosh in pandaria? had alot of flashbacks, and how it breaks jaina.
@@kimsta9920 exactly :) War Crimes was Garrosh's trial in Pandaria and prelude to Warlords of Draenor expansion. Tides of War didn't have an expansion tied to it - it served as prelude to Jaina's return to Kirin Tor and events happening in Pandaria (Divine Bell quest line, return of the Thunder King).
Love this alot ❤
The entire Jaina story arc in BfA is one of the best stories in WoW...certainly better than the Horde story (coming from a Horde player).
The Man at the Left side is Rhonin. He was Arcmage of Dalaran and was killed when he defended Jaina´s City Theramore. The Gnome...i forgott the name, was jaina´s apprentice. She also died in theramore. Saw all the people behinde Jaina? They all died when Garrosh dropt a giant Bomb on Theramore. Except Varian, Admiral Proudmoore and Arthas. Sry for the bad english. it´s not my native language.
If u didn't notice sea chant was once lolaby that they turn in to song of her betrayer so that it was newer forgotten.
The Culling of Stratholme, it is both a mission and an scene from WarCraft III. It was also rerecorded for a dungeon in WoW. There's a WarCraft III reforged version here on youtube, I'm sure. Arthas' VA here is also the VA for Garrosh. Patrick does a lot of villians, actually.
First time ive seen your channel. I love these exciting reactions, im gonna check through your videos right now. Please tell me you have done all starcraft 2 storys from wings of liberty to Leagacy of the void becuse thats a story that kills my manliness
Omg... I completely forgot about these visuals back from my Warcraft I, II, III days. I got shivers when I remembered watching Arthas actually purge the city.. it was horrific from a morality perspective to go through this, but not surprising for Blizzard 'play-through' cut scenes. Also while continuing to watch, the cut-scenes started to be different at some point depending on whether you were Horde or Alliance.
All the Jaina stuff in BFA is what made Jaina become my favorite WoW character.
Honestly I’d LOVE to see your reaction to a lot of the Warcraft three cutscenes or even just the dialogue. Particularly the frozen throne campaign… Arthas’ story is one of the best.
So to help inform partly some of the issues with BFA. You have that a lot of the progression in the expansion was tied to doing grindy dailies to get an item that would buff your special weapon.
The conclusion of the expansion was also something incredibly hyped up with its characters and it just wasn't worth it for the fans both in terms of gameplay and story.
You also have a meta issue when it came to the premise of the expansion, it being the faction war. Everyone knows that no one can win as the players still need to play the different races, so the war needs to end somehow, and when multiple wars end with it returning to status quo, it becomes quite boring.
Another great storyline is that of Ysera. The green Aspect (The leader of the green Dragons.), and protector of the realm known as the "Emerald Dream". Her cinematics are hauntingly beautiful. She along with the rest of the Dragon aspects give up their aspectral powers to defeat Deathwing in the expansion cataclysm. Then years later in the legion expansion, the emerald dream begins to become corrupted by stayrs working for the legion. Ysera fights to stop it, but in doing so falls herself. We then see one of THE most heartbreaking cinematics in the history of the game. Where Tyrande Whisperwind (One of the leaders of the night elf race) is forced to kill Ysera, who has been her best friend for a millennia. The death of Ysera and her soul rising into the stars is like the scene in Dragonheart where draco becomes a constellation. The MUSIC of that scene is HAUNTING, and the cinematic as a whole is just *CHEF'S KISS*. Then as we get into the shadowlands expansion, we find that the winter queen has Ysera's soul, and resurrects her. We start to follow Ysera's daughter as she slowly starts to assume control of the green dragonflight. Then in the expansion of dragonflight, we bring Ysera back to Azeroth, but at the cost of Tyrande's husband Malfurion. Ysera's story come full circle as she protects the Emerald dream with her daughter and grandson once again. But not from corruption. From a mad Dragon that wants to seize the power of the Emerald dream and burn it all down. Towards the end she decides to appoint her daughter Merithera as the new green dragon aspect, so she can return to the realm of dead with the winter queen and bring back Malfurion, Tyrande's husband. The whole srotyline is beautiful, and worth watching!
Have you reacted the cinematics in Warlords of Draenor? (the cinematics when the chain quests of the zones are ended and the ones on the patches?). WoD was the first expansion adding proper cinematics like this ones. You also should watch the ingame cinematics in the Siege of Lordaeron.
Enjoying your WoW Cinematic Journey.
The Battle for Azeroth plot line was really good when it was just focusing on Horde vs Alliance. It kind of got off the rails at some point. However, the opening act just had wonderful character driven moments, and the stories for Horde and Alliance are connected but have totally different casts and settings, really making you feel like you're on two different sides of a war. While I feel the Jaina arc was cool. I also feel like people sleep on the Princess Talanji story and the supporting cast, King Rastakhan, Dark Prophet Zul, and Bwonsamdi are also all fan favorites.
They really got good at giving the characters fully emotive faces and body language by this point
Jana has one of he best Story Arcs IMO, and I loved BFA because of those cinematics, levelinh in BFA was amazing.
35min : Yes this is Varian , Jaina and Varian are cousins , and that why Jaina is the aunt of Anduin (a little like a german aunt) when she was child : Jaina plays a lot with Varian and there are passed lot of times together at Lordaeron cour (lordaeron city) , but Varian was little more aged and passed lot of times also with Arthas , that why in this scene we can see Varian on the list of the mens who are in the Jaina's heart , for her in her heart varian is a big brother and Jaina for him a little sister
The guy on the ship is his brother, Tagred Proudmoore. His fleet was lost at sea by magic done by the Naga Queen and Jaina brings them home. He captains a ship you make in the game later. You are missing a lot of context.
If you watched Game of Thrones, you should note that Jaina's parents are voiced by the actors of King Robert and Ellaria Sand, so yeah - they brought out the big guns for a very important storyline.
You hve an amazing partner that tomb is amazing! ❤
Loved all these WoW reactions and especially the in-depth fillmaker perspective u have one them. Would absoultely love it if you could react to the hurricane fan-made trailers. This guy "Hurricane" makes the in-game trailers so epic that he even got hired by blizzard and makes trailers for them now.
In order: Naxxramas-Burning crusade-"Journey" and last "cataclysm announcement" all made by Hurricane.
The anchor necklace acts as a mystical lighthouse that is able to break the magical storm that had trapped the fleet. A shining beacon that is able to guide the fleet home through any magic. Jaina has the bloodline to trigger the necklace. It's possible Tandred could use it too!
The hair color change comes from the use of high level of arcane, or from the Mana bomb in Theramore. It has the ability to age you. It is a sign of the person having arcane ability in her spells even if she is naturally a cyromancer. I am not going to make it boring on the properties of Arcane in Warcraft.
Oh you have to live that experience and it will make sense. It's not just a movie. I usually follow Gen Greymane around as a worgen. It's different for everyone.
the whole whitening of hair is recurring theme, especially amongst the arcane casters. Arthas was a blondie until he turned. Khadgar has a similar kinda deal from wrangling with Medivh/Sargeras.
Trauma does crazy stuff to you hair color. Mine was dark until I had a child. It was a very traumatic experience. I lost pigment afterwards. I have the hair set up like Jaina except mine is dark and a big white stripe and many smaller ones down my hair Like Rogue. Poor Jaina. Tough and handles trauma like a champ. People think its cool.
Saurfang and Thrall. Saurfang and Sylvanas face off. If there's another, I don't remember it. Those are the two completely cinematic scenes are remaining.
By the way, Jaina is op. She's considered one of the most powerful mages in Azeroth. Perhaps the most discounting Khadgar and Azshara.
u really needed to start this one with the daughter of the sea warbringers cinematic
AFAIK, Terran Gregory is the head of the cinematic team, and has been for a long time.
One of my regrets on BFA, i played horde throughout, damn i missed all these... was on Loa this Loa that horde side haha
Horde side was interesting in it's own right, the Loa were only mentioned throughout WoW but in BFA we got to see that Loa were an inspiration to the Troll culture, which wasnt explored too much, since we were fighting Troll tribes since Vanilla.
Jaina's been my favorite since the early days of wow.
Jaina is my favorite character in all warcraft series.
im hyped for you to potentially play Warcraft 3
Should watch the collected gameplay videos, they explain what's going on with almost full voice acting.
yeah, its weird that the MoP stuff involving garrosh gets claimed. my best guess is that they wanted to prevent people from uploading the scene themselves and spoil things for others and for some reason never removed it (or cant, because youtube is a totally good functioning platform /s).
someone probably already explained it to you, but: dalaran, the city of mages, is supposed to be neutral. yet it was used by one of the high ranking horde members to smuggle the mana bomb through, from horde territory to near theramore. after the bomb destroyed her city, jaina was outraged and wanted to kill all the bloodelves in dalaran, since the responsible horde member was bloodelf. as alliance character you actually accompany her, which felt bad, but you can kind of "save" some of the bloodelf civilians by teleporting them to the cities prison instead, iirc.
rhonin(? i believe hes the leader of dalaran) was naturally very upset by the bloodshed on his supposed-to-be neutral city.
sadly, i cant really remember any more details about this bit of story, because i only played through it once or twice, several years ago.
12:05 the lyrics of her song say "But when he faced those savage foes | His daughter stood aside" which is very literal. she, thrall and two other horde leaders were facing the lord admiral, jainas father. she pleaded him to lay down his arms and make peace with the horde, but he chose not to, so jaina literally turned his back on him, after which thrall and the horde troops had to kill him. similar to varian, Daelin Proudmoore was a warrior through and through and would've never stayed down otherwise.
22:00 the significance of Genn appearing there is because Genn is one of the oldest remaining human/alliance leaders. he fought together with Daelin Proudmore, jainas father, in the 2nd war (i.e. green orcs invading azeroth) and was part of the original alliance, which was the 7 human kingdoms. through that, he personally knows Katherine Proudmore, so what hes saying has *a lot* of weight to her.
wow, i never got to see that scene with Katherin after, but it very much feels to me like someone in the team played Hellblade - Senuas Sacrifice.
oh wow... at the end there, behind jaina are all the important people in her life that she saw die. thats pretty rough nonetheless.
also i very highly recommend playing through WC3, at least the base game, even with cheats if you want to, because the story is still amazing.
39:00 there is somethin to be said about recognizing a martial weapon by its silhouette. easily, no less. also very cool, im jealous.
also never got to see the conclusion scene, because jainas quest progression was locked behind clearing dungeons (and i believe higher than normal difficulty too) and at that point in time i didnt paly much WoW anymore, much less with friends. great scene. the fact that this song shes humming was turned into a dirge by the people of kul'tiras, hits even harder, knowing that it used to be a lullaby.
Please do the in game cinematic Dazar'alor for Jaina! It is amazing :)
I am dying waiting for Reckoning reaction
I tried to play horde.. it just never grabbed me.
do the one with jainer where she arives at the battle of lorderon its great.
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Jaina is water mage and kultura s have special kind of priest that are half water mages thous her water prificency and accet to powers of that pendants
Lol whats funny to me is I dont think they could restrain her unless she let it Jaina is one of the most power full mages in wow
They keep referencing the Daughter of the Sea because Jaina IS the Daughter of the Sea... that sea shanty is literally about her
Jaina is one of the strongest mages in the reality, she could destroy everyone around her with one blink and make Kul Tiras help her. Yet still two guards was enough to imprison her :-/
Can you please react to siege of orgrimmar? As a wow player I go back and rewatch it so often cause it’s the one character they did so well
she maybe pixels but they made her the perfect woman she is just gourgess
I agree with Asmongold's argument for "Arthas did nothing wrong" (the ex wow dev video from Asmon's channel). Interested to see your take on his take on The Culling of Stratholme.
Its Jeaina still the best lore charater?
You should watch Arthas did nothing wrong by hirumaredex. He started the series on April fools, but the content isn't a joke. Everyone knows Arthas did some really bad things, but the story is much more nuanced than that and he explores that in a very interesting way.
I prefer the horde side cinematic of battle of Azeroth ( zandalari)
This is the missing link between Jania Warbringers and the first cutscene on the ship. czcams.com/video/3CGBLVNpoKo/video.html this always seems to get cut out of the list.