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to quote Gul'dan when asked "what must we give in return?"; EVERYTHING... EDIT: jokes aside, i would've fixed ALMOST everything. for one thing i wouldnt have made The Jailer be so underwhelming, or stupid enough to not even consider us mortals a threat. he was played off like he was this 5D Chess Player, and yet against us he ignored us right up until the final battle. all those years of planning, ruined in a heartbeat, a terrible joke told by Blizzard, by Steve Danuser.
In game, they made Sylvanas do the Game of Thrones shame walk. You as the player walked with her and everyone chanted their vitriol and regrets at her.
One scene I didn't see you cover was when Sylvanas got her soul back and then had to reckon with herself between who she had been before Frostmourne, and who she became afterwards. This is a scene where Uther goes into her mind because she's in a coma.
There is another slant to this last scene between Sylvanas and Anduin. The events of the book Sylvanas "occur" during Shadowlands as she visits him over and over in his "cell" trying to coax his agreement. She relates her own story, and we see the family members she loved and the events that shaped her life up until that precise moment she's speaking with him. If you read that then watch this scene, it gives it so much more depth to the conversation. When you read the book, have the audio book playing as well--Patty nails the right queues as her voice is so awesome. In another book, we see where Anduin would done a cloak such as he's wearing here and go out to Goldshire to just be a simple person among his people rather than a prince of Stormwind/king of stormwind. I see wearing this cloak as a call back to the fact he is leaving to go face himself and not be a ruler until he can calm his own anguish. Both of them have long roads ahead of them, but the last lines for her book are my favorite of the entire novel. :)
I'm in the middle of listening to the audio book. I also just so happened to have a character able to do the Blood Elf heritage armor quest, which shows flashbacks of events surrounding her time as Ranger-General. It was a happy coincidence.
One thing I love to mention, if you watch the scene where the jailer succeeds against the arbiter, HIGHLY Recommended putting on subtitles because there is something so subtle you miss it without realizing it
this is what I've been waiting for you to react to. I'd said for years that the worst punishment you could give Sylvanas is to reinstate her morality and force her to face herself, and I was so glad to see it play out so well!
Spoiler Alert here. The reason why The Jailer looks like that is because the Pantheon of the Shadowlands are artificial, sentient constructs created by a group of beings known as The First Ones. In fact one of the bosses in the raid leading up to The Jailer is called the Prototype Pantheon where you fight Mk 1 versions of the leaders of the Shadowlands.
having never seen these scenes before, i think the punishment is a very good one for sylvanas. not only can she actively make amends for the wrongs she did (though it will always be a drop in the bucket, considering countless acts of genocide she committed or commanded over the years), but from a story writing perspective it also gives a chance to fall back onto her, re-introduce her at some point in the (hopefully far) future, because not only do we know where she is, but also this kind of work can definitely change a person, given enough time. also i believe tyrandes owl is more like a magical familiar from DnD, not an actual owl.
I like the scene where Sylvanas is talking to Anduin saying "I have faced who I am. And what I've done. Now the work begins." Almost talking to a generate of kids who are growing up and becoming adults in a world where it seems like mental health is on the decline. That therapy is becoming more common place. Like its trying to relate to lot of people who have been struggling with mental health but "now the work begins." That you have the power to get better despite what you've been through. I think Anduin will sort of become a beacon for almost like "overcoming trauma and mental health issues". Especially in the war within (kinda hence the name). I know in the war within trailer having been someone who struggles with PTSD from my time in the military. His emotions were SPOT ON for PTSD reactions and the feelings he showed. I think his rise will strike a chord with an interesting audience that doesn't get alot of light
The end of shadowlands for Anduin is what we see in him during the trailer for the War Within. It's been roughly 7 seven years between the events. Anduin has been in exile during the time of the Drsgon Isles and Dragonflight
I think the reason Sylvanas submitted to the judgement of Tyranda is because she realized she had become the monster she hated in Arthas. That realization opened her eyes and she felt she needed to redeem herself from what she had become.
It's always seemed since these came out that people forgot that Sylvannas got her complete soul back. Her old self is the one admitting to the deeds her tortured self did. It's not hard to see why she had such a sudden change and submitting to Tyrande. The Ranger General, Hero to the High Elves is who is submitting not the tortured Banshee.
When soval merged the Banshee queen's soul with her other half, the ranger general (who's soul was split at the same time she died) was imprisoned (unconscious?) in the maw while the banshee queen ran amuck on Azeroth. So when the Ranger General awoke after being merged she had memories of things she didn't do (The Banshee instead of the General). Now that her soul is whole again, your seeing the real Sylvanas! Like her soul was cleaved in two, good and evil, light and dark. The Banshee Queen and the Ranger General. Now that their whole again, the Ranger General and Temper her Darker Impulses.
I believe the War Within Cinematic takes place 5 years or a little more after the Anduin/Sylvanas heart to heart. Anduin traveled alone all that time before Thrall found him in the desert. So I guess Genn Greymane was managing Stormwind
What's so fun about delving into Warcraft lore is that people tend to be attached to their first experience with the story. In your case, it was The War Within trailer. So it's nice seeing you be excited figuring out everything that led to that point. The Lich King pose that Anduin did, the flashback to Varian's soul touching Anduins shoulder, the reason why Anduin has no Light anymore, the "We don't get to hide." quote, etc. My introduction to Warcraft was Warcraft 3. And in that game, I always wondered why the acolytes of the Undead Scourge tend to say "My life for Ner'zhul." Who is Ner'zhul? And then in just one Google search of that name, I realized that everything I know about Warcraft 3 was just a small fraction of everything there is to learn about Warcraft.
Eternal Ones have 2 parts. Their soul and a 3D printed corporeal body. When we killed him, his soul faded away. Leaving the vessel behind. Its a pretty poignant image because the facility we kill him is where the vessels are made.
I have an interesting take on Sylvanas's delivery of the line at 12:19. It feels almost like an intimate pleading. Almost like how you would speak to a romantic partner while trying to comfort them. I don't ship Sylvanas and Anduin but I do believe there is mutual respect and affection toward each other, as well as an understanding of each other's perspectives and pain that no one else shares. So I think she asks it like that because she just wants him to be happy.
this was the last time we saw anduin until War Within. Dragonflight takes place a few years later and does not feature anduin. Dragonflight is basically a reset back to the base lore of dragons and the titans.
Man, being kinda down on WoW storytelling in Shadowlands and then they drop the Anduin/Sylvanas cinematic at the end. Really helped carry the hype for DragonFlight. Also, Anduin collecting parental figures like they're Pokemon. Varian, his biological dad and someone who's boots he's been trying to fill his entire life Valeera, a Blood elf who's been part of his personal guard since he was a child and has been a large part of him growing up. "Aunty" Jaina, who's also like somewhat of a motherfigure to him. Genn Graymane, one of his fathers closest advisors who supported Anduin after Varian passed. Saurfang whom he got close to during BFA (one having lost a son, the other a father), and like Varian, died with Shalamayne in hand and shows up to support him during his darkest moment. And now we got Sylvanas, who has shared his experience of getting your bodily agency removed and knows what kinds of scars that leave. You've also probably heard this from commentors/chatters before but, Sylvanas had a younger brother who she loved dearly. He was much weaker than his older sisters but had great talent for art and performance and ends up becoming the royal musician of the then high elves. Though he still sometimes wishes he had become a ranger like his sisters and asks Sylvanas to train him in the ranger ways. She denies him, wanting to keep him as far away from battles as possible by keeping him as a civilian. One of her other sisters agrees to train him in secret. He later dies in some attack on some settlement and Sylvanas blames her sister who trained him for his death. Sylvanas seems to see a lot of her brother in Anduin, with his gentle nature and him being a priest but almost being forced into being some sort of warrior (not talking in-game classes here necessarily). Sylvanas brother also had long blond hair, so that's a visual similarity. The nickname she used for her dear brother was "Little Sun". I don't believe I need to elaborate on why that is relevant.
what remains of the Jailer is his skeleton, he like the other "Eternals" are constructs of The First Ones, a race that created the entire Universe and the cosmic forces of said Universe. when we defeated him, his body started to breakdown and "die", imo i hope he stays in that husk-like form, one less menace to worry about.
I don't know for sure if you've reacted to this or not, but you should watch the duel between Garrosh and Thrall from Warlords of Draenor, it's going backwards in time from your shadowlands vids but I love that cutscene especially for the voice acting
it got a bad rep as it was releasing but looking back, it was a good expansion in some regards but bad in others. generally i like it, but i get why people were not happy.
Please check out "Garrosh's Fate Reforged". Very short, and someone remade the in-game cinematic because of the terrible quality. Quite fitting for Garrosh
Hey mate! I just found your channel and I enjoy all your reactions! However, there seem to be a few that you missed or (in case you watch this live on twitch or somewhere else) simply not uploaded. Many of these Cinematics you didn't upload here on youtube are still very important and I am sure everyone would like to see them. (In the Case of Shadowlands it would be the Ardenwald ending Cinematic, Revendreth ending Cinematic, Garrosh's Final Cutscene, Sylvanas Defeat Cinematic, Slyvanas and Uther [not sure about the name], aswell as 2 Tyrance Cinematics) So in case you missed them, you should definetly check them out! And if you watched them but not uploaded them for whatever reason you may have had, I am sure many people (including me) would love to see your reaction to it!
Oh here blizzard wronged every night elf and worgen in-game. It's still a very well written plot. It was bitter sweet ending. My warewolf of tempest's reach still hates Sylvanas & will gut her with a very evil looking barbed scythe onsite in-game. Actually I developed a whole jumping move to catch the banshee mid air with that scythe from harpoon to hit full power mongoose bike 2 to 3 times into her chest. ( well the playable characters hitting the boss NPC in the reckoning raid it's only a game) . But yes shadowlands was very epic to play through.
Something you don't see here thats VERY IMPORTANT is seeing sylvanas reunite with half of her soul that was lost when she was slain by arthas so she's been essentially walking around as wounded as Uther just never went to the shadowlands obviously
"I need time to think"..."but time, by itself, heals nothing" - I can't help but thing "but time, alone, heals nothing" would have been much more clever
I don't think Little Lion was ever a taunt. You don't taunt anyone by calling them a little lion. Even calling him little acknowledges that he is a lion at all. There was a big lion Varian and a little lion Anduin. It was always at least the minimum level of respect.
basically she was calling him "little varian" or "little alliance king" as you said, as that is what he is. the use of "little" was definitely a taunt, but after the events of shadowlands, it changed to a term of endearment. its like calling a full grown man "little man" or "little (insert job title here)", it would be insulting. but from someone you have respect for, it would be taken differently
@@maruraba1478 -- We have know Anduin in game since his character looked like the little kid NPCs that run around Stormwind. Sylvanas may even be hundreds of years older than Anduin. Sylvanas was a Ranger General for the elves. I'm not sure if she was part of the alliance specifically but she was probably someone who could call him little when he actually was little. This is fiction but in my family pet names the older generation gave us are still used even when we are grown. I respect your opinion and it even makes sense. My opinion just differs about it being strictly a taunt in the beginning.
@@dnlkr -- I don't believe opinions can be wrong. It is mine and mine alone. Yours and yours alone. No one in the world has to have the same one. You can disagree, but I can keep an opinion. Facts are different. I can be wrong about a known fact. The day Anduin tells us he felt insulted by the term Little Lion then my opinion will remain a valid opinion even if only held my me.
To me, when Sylvanas asks "Must you bear that weight?" it's a question not to him, but to herself. It's coated in regret and shame. Like she's asking herself "Have I truly done so much damage to you?" Honestly, kinda brings me to tears a little.
she should feel guilty, she subjugated Anduin the very same way that she herself was subjugated, she became the very monster that she hated up until this point. THAT is her cross to bare in the coming days, another reason why she was not executed, as it would only be a release to be killed, living with what's been done is her hell. her Maw.
He has watched like 44 SL cinematics and cutscenes. There was a list in his Discord. He usually watches on a livestream and then will post important ones here.
Greetings! I think you missed one cinematic. The one it shows when you defeat Sylvanas in raid and Jailer optains the last sigil. czcams.com/video/G-woEHiGYpU/video.htmlsi=OUgLSfrmYz04R1Im Plus the the one after that which Uther tries to talk with Sylvanas while she is in comma state.
Notice who was NOT shown in the first cinematic. Every covenant's leader is shown, except... The Primus. And hear the chains? Only can be heard when The Primus is addressing Zovaal even though Zovaal is chained in every other scene but we don't hear chains then. Wanna know something else really fishy? The Primus wears a sash with domination runes on it, the exact same runes etched into Zovaal's skin, and they're the same runes on the Lich King's sword Frostmourn. Why is The Primus wearing domination runes when he was a "prisoner" held captive in the Maw? I bet you anything that Zovaal was just a distraction. The real Jailer made us a fool. He's the most brilliant tactician ever, because he can see all outcomes of a battle thanks to a shady deal. Take a look at concept art of the Jailer, looks just like The Primus. And you wanna know the kicker here? What did we do for The Primus? We made a new arbiter and what did we reforge from the broken Lich King's Helm of Domination? The Crown of Wills, placed neatly on the head of the sole individual deciding every single soul's afterlife. Helm of Domination / Crown of Wills, The Primus played us and made us the fools, made us believe he was a prisoner with his memories stripped from him, where we then killed Zovaal all while The Primus - the REAL Jailer - reforged his previous helm into something more innocent looking, and we handed him control of every soul's destiny in the afterlife.
yeah, i always thought that will be the story twist that will salvage the Jailer story. Zovaal would be just a second in command and Primus would be the real enemy in the end. Didnt happend, and Shadowlands became the weakest story in WoW... shame
That was Malfurion & Jared Shadowsongs choice to imprison Illidan at the end of the War of the Ancients, not Tyrandes. She supported but did not make the judgement.
@AndyJP Nope not yet, she just became high priestess. It was after all that they became leaders of the NElfs. That is why Jared had stack in the decision, he was the defacto leader since the queen and ravencrest were dead.
@@gleadr6869 Yes, High Priestess, which was head of state then, Shadowsong led the army. Regardless, at any point in 10,000 years could she have said "this is enough punishment." No, she literally forgot.
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to quote Gul'dan when asked "what must we give in return?"; EVERYTHING...
EDIT: jokes aside, i would've fixed ALMOST everything. for one thing i wouldnt have made The Jailer be so underwhelming, or stupid enough to not even consider us mortals a threat. he was played off like he was this 5D Chess Player, and yet against us he ignored us right up until the final battle. all those years of planning, ruined in a heartbeat, a terrible joke told by Blizzard, by Steve Danuser.
In game, they made Sylvanas do the Game of Thrones shame walk. You as the player walked with her and everyone chanted their vitriol and regrets at her.
One scene I didn't see you cover was when Sylvanas got her soul back and then had to reckon with herself between who she had been before Frostmourne, and who she became afterwards. This is a scene where Uther goes into her mind because she's in a coma.
He did watch Shattered Legacies during a livestream, which he then edits down into shorter videos. It is on the channel somewhere.
I think he forgot to post that specific scene. If you do a search for 'Shattered Legacies' on his channel, only the 4 hour livestream comes up.
There is another slant to this last scene between Sylvanas and Anduin. The events of the book Sylvanas "occur" during Shadowlands as she visits him over and over in his "cell" trying to coax his agreement. She relates her own story, and we see the family members she loved and the events that shaped her life up until that precise moment she's speaking with him. If you read that then watch this scene, it gives it so much more depth to the conversation. When you read the book, have the audio book playing as well--Patty nails the right queues as her voice is so awesome.
In another book, we see where Anduin would done a cloak such as he's wearing here and go out to Goldshire to just be a simple person among his people rather than a prince of Stormwind/king of stormwind. I see wearing this cloak as a call back to the fact he is leaving to go face himself and not be a ruler until he can calm his own anguish.
Both of them have long roads ahead of them, but the last lines for her book are my favorite of the entire novel. :)
I'm in the middle of listening to the audio book. I also just so happened to have a character able to do the Blood Elf heritage armor quest, which shows flashbacks of events surrounding her time as Ranger-General. It was a happy coincidence.
@@jare3959 People wonder why the lament is my favorite song in WoW. That's why right there.
Not all victims in war are among the dead and wounded. Some are among the survivors, because of what they’ve seen and/or done.
One thing I love to mention, if you watch the scene where the jailer succeeds against the arbiter, HIGHLY Recommended putting on subtitles because there is something so subtle you miss it without realizing it
this is what I've been waiting for you to react to. I'd said for years that the worst punishment you could give Sylvanas is to reinstate her morality and force her to face herself, and I was so glad to see it play out so well!
Spoiler Alert here. The reason why The Jailer looks like that is because the Pantheon of the Shadowlands are artificial, sentient constructs created by a group of beings known as The First Ones. In fact one of the bosses in the raid leading up to The Jailer is called the Prototype Pantheon where you fight Mk 1 versions of the leaders of the Shadowlands.
having never seen these scenes before, i think the punishment is a very good one for sylvanas. not only can she actively make amends for the wrongs she did (though it will always be a drop in the bucket, considering countless acts of genocide she committed or commanded over the years), but from a story writing perspective it also gives a chance to fall back onto her, re-introduce her at some point in the (hopefully far) future, because not only do we know where she is, but also this kind of work can definitely change a person, given enough time.
also i believe tyrandes owl is more like a magical familiar from DnD, not an actual owl.
I like the scene where Sylvanas is talking to Anduin saying "I have faced who I am. And what I've done. Now the work begins." Almost talking to a generate of kids who are growing up and becoming adults in a world where it seems like mental health is on the decline. That therapy is becoming more common place. Like its trying to relate to lot of people who have been struggling with mental health but "now the work begins." That you have the power to get better despite what you've been through. I think Anduin will sort of become a beacon for almost like "overcoming trauma and mental health issues". Especially in the war within (kinda hence the name). I know in the war within trailer having been someone who struggles with PTSD from my time in the military. His emotions were SPOT ON for PTSD reactions and the feelings he showed. I think his rise will strike a chord with an interesting audience that doesn't get alot of light
The end of shadowlands for Anduin is what we see in him during the trailer for the War Within. It's been roughly 7 seven years between the events. Anduin has been in exile during the time of the Drsgon Isles and Dragonflight
I think the reason Sylvanas submitted to the judgement of Tyranda is because she realized she had become the monster she hated in Arthas. That realization opened her eyes and she felt she needed to redeem herself from what she had become.
to the person that she hurt the way Arthas hurt her.
Amazing review, as always. Curious though did you watch the Anduin Velen( A found Memento legion cinematic) ingame cinematic? You definitely should.
It's always seemed since these came out that people forgot that Sylvannas got her complete soul back. Her old self is the one admitting to the deeds her tortured self did. It's not hard to see why she had such a sudden change and submitting to Tyrande. The Ranger General, Hero to the High Elves is who is submitting not the tortured Banshee.
When soval merged the Banshee queen's soul with her other half, the ranger general (who's soul was split at the same time she died) was imprisoned (unconscious?) in the maw while the banshee queen ran amuck on Azeroth. So when the Ranger General awoke after being merged she had memories of things she didn't do (The Banshee instead of the General). Now that her soul is whole again, your seeing the real Sylvanas! Like her soul was cleaved in two, good and evil, light and dark. The Banshee Queen and the Ranger General. Now that their whole again, the Ranger General and Temper her Darker Impulses.
I believe the War Within Cinematic takes place 5 years or a little more after the Anduin/Sylvanas heart to heart. Anduin traveled alone all that time before Thrall found him in the desert. So I guess Genn Greymane was managing Stormwind
Philidari is the best fanbase name ever!
both anduin and sylvanas is now going thru a hell on earth so to speak when they at last come back to us it will be alot different::)
I love the double meaning for The War Within (within the planet and within Anduin)
i just love this interaction!
What's so fun about delving into Warcraft lore is that people tend to be attached to their first experience with the story.
In your case, it was The War Within trailer. So it's nice seeing you be excited figuring out everything that led to that point. The Lich King pose that Anduin did, the flashback to Varian's soul touching Anduins shoulder, the reason why Anduin has no Light anymore, the "We don't get to hide." quote, etc.
My introduction to Warcraft was Warcraft 3. And in that game, I always wondered why the acolytes of the Undead Scourge tend to say "My life for Ner'zhul." Who is Ner'zhul? And then in just one Google search of that name, I realized that everything I know about Warcraft 3 was just a small fraction of everything there is to learn about Warcraft.
Eternal Ones have 2 parts. Their soul and a 3D printed corporeal body. When we killed him, his soul faded away. Leaving the vessel behind. Its a pretty poignant image because the facility we kill him is where the vessels are made.
I have an interesting take on Sylvanas's delivery of the line at 12:19. It feels almost like an intimate pleading. Almost like how you would speak to a romantic partner while trying to comfort them. I don't ship Sylvanas and Anduin but I do believe there is mutual respect and affection toward each other, as well as an understanding of each other's perspectives and pain that no one else shares. So I think she asks it like that because she just wants him to be happy.
this was the last time we saw anduin until War Within. Dragonflight takes place a few years later and does not feature anduin. Dragonflight is basically a reset back to the base lore of dragons and the titans.
Man, being kinda down on WoW storytelling in Shadowlands and then they drop the Anduin/Sylvanas cinematic at the end. Really helped carry the hype for DragonFlight.
Also, Anduin collecting parental figures like they're Pokemon.
Varian, his biological dad and someone who's boots he's been trying to fill his entire life
Valeera, a Blood elf who's been part of his personal guard since he was a child and has been a large part of him growing up.
"Aunty" Jaina, who's also like somewhat of a motherfigure to him.
Genn Graymane, one of his fathers closest advisors who supported Anduin after Varian passed.
Saurfang whom he got close to during BFA (one having lost a son, the other a father), and like Varian, died with Shalamayne in hand and shows up to support him during his darkest moment.
And now we got Sylvanas, who has shared his experience of getting your bodily agency removed and knows what kinds of scars that leave.
You've also probably heard this from commentors/chatters before but, Sylvanas had a younger brother who she loved dearly. He was much weaker than his older sisters but had great talent for art and performance and ends up becoming the royal musician of the then high elves. Though he still sometimes wishes he had become a ranger like his sisters and asks Sylvanas to train him in the ranger ways. She denies him, wanting to keep him as far away from battles as possible by keeping him as a civilian. One of her other sisters agrees to train him in secret.
He later dies in some attack on some settlement and Sylvanas blames her sister who trained him for his death. Sylvanas seems to see a lot of her brother in Anduin, with his gentle nature and him being a priest but almost being forced into being some sort of warrior (not talking in-game classes here necessarily). Sylvanas brother also had long blond hair, so that's a visual similarity.
The nickname she used for her dear brother was "Little Sun". I don't believe I need to elaborate on why that is relevant.
Bolvar was also basically Anduin's adopted dad until Varian escaped the orcs and returned during the original Onyxia patch and story.
If you didn't understand Zovaal's (the jailer) "death" cinematic don't worry, no one did.
what remains of the Jailer is his skeleton, he like the other "Eternals" are constructs of The First Ones, a race that created the entire Universe and the cosmic forces of said Universe. when we defeated him, his body started to breakdown and "die", imo i hope he stays in that husk-like form, one less menace to worry about.
You have definately missed some cinematics, Sanctum of domination ending cinematic and Sepulcher of the first ones comes to mind, maybe even more.
He has watched them on his live stream. Some he uploads individually to CZcams.
@@MaeLonewolf ah thanks for headsup :)
@@Bilboslavus you are very welcome!
I don't know for sure if you've reacted to this or not, but you should watch the duel between Garrosh and Thrall from Warlords of Draenor, it's going backwards in time from your shadowlands vids but I love that cutscene especially for the voice acting
I heard Shadowlands was bad but these cut scenes have been fantastic.
it got a bad rep as it was releasing but looking back, it was a good expansion in some regards but bad in others. generally i like it, but i get why people were not happy.
Please check out "Garrosh's Fate Reforged". Very short, and someone remade the in-game cinematic because of the terrible quality. Quite fitting for Garrosh
See the difference is you get to ho through the motion actively participating in that plot not just watching.
Hey mate! I just found your channel and I enjoy all your reactions! However, there seem to be a few that you missed or (in case you watch this live on twitch or somewhere else) simply not uploaded.
Many of these Cinematics you didn't upload here on youtube are still very important and I am sure everyone would like to see them.
(In the Case of Shadowlands it would be the Ardenwald ending Cinematic, Revendreth ending Cinematic, Garrosh's Final Cutscene, Sylvanas Defeat Cinematic, Slyvanas and Uther [not sure about the name], aswell as 2 Tyrance Cinematics)
So in case you missed them, you should definetly check them out!
And if you watched them but not uploaded them for whatever reason you may have had, I am sure many people (including me) would love to see your reaction to it!
You can actually find those in the live tab on my channel from the original streams where I watched them!
@@PhilipHarts oh thanks! Good to know! :)
Oh here blizzard wronged every night elf and worgen in-game. It's still a very well written plot. It was bitter sweet ending. My warewolf of tempest's reach still hates Sylvanas & will gut her with a very evil looking barbed scythe onsite in-game. Actually I developed a whole jumping move to catch the banshee mid air with that scythe from harpoon to hit full power mongoose bike 2 to 3 times into her chest. ( well the playable characters hitting the boss NPC in the reckoning raid it's only a game) . But yes shadowlands was very epic to play through.
Something you don't see here thats VERY IMPORTANT is seeing sylvanas reunite with half of her soul that was lost when she was slain by arthas so she's been essentially walking around as wounded as Uther just never went to the shadowlands obviously
"I need time to think"..."but time, by itself, heals nothing" - I can't help but thing "but time, alone, heals nothing" would have been much more clever
I think it's more like you need both time AND care in order to heal. Not just time. Time just let's wounds fester.
hoping to get to play with u but blizz are a bit cranky im on eu and are not allowed to play on us!! not giving up though, phillidari:)
"Have her rebuild what she destroyed"
FUNNY STORY ABOUT DRAGONFLIGHT....😅
Do you know about sylvanas Split Soul ? And why her eyes are Blue now ?
He does 😊
I don't think Little Lion was ever a taunt. You don't taunt anyone by calling them a little lion. Even calling him little acknowledges that he is a lion at all. There was a big lion Varian and a little lion Anduin. It was always at least the minimum level of respect.
basically she was calling him "little varian" or "little alliance king" as you said, as that is what he is. the use of "little" was definitely a taunt, but after the events of shadowlands, it changed to a term of endearment. its like calling a full grown man "little man" or "little (insert job title here)", it would be insulting. but from someone you have respect for, it would be taken differently
@@maruraba1478 -- We have know Anduin in game since his character looked like the little kid NPCs that run around Stormwind.
Sylvanas may even be hundreds of years older than Anduin. Sylvanas was a Ranger General for the elves.
I'm not sure if she was part of the alliance specifically but she was probably someone who could call him little when he actually was little.
This is fiction but in my family pet names the older generation gave us are still used even when we are grown.
I respect your opinion and it even makes sense. My opinion just differs about it being strictly a taunt in the beginning.
@@semi6544 Having an opinion is entirely your right. But opinions can be wrong.
@@dnlkr -- I don't believe opinions can be wrong. It is mine and mine alone. Yours and yours alone. No one in the world has to have the same one.
You can disagree, but I can keep an opinion. Facts are different. I can be wrong about a known fact.
The day Anduin tells us he felt insulted by the term Little Lion then my opinion will remain a valid opinion even if only held my me.
To me, when Sylvanas asks "Must you bear that weight?" it's a question not to him, but to herself. It's coated in regret and shame. Like she's asking herself "Have I truly done so much damage to you?" Honestly, kinda brings me to tears a little.
she should feel guilty, she subjugated Anduin the very same way that she herself was subjugated, she became the very monster that she hated up until this point. THAT is her cross to bare in the coming days, another reason why she was not executed, as it would only be a release to be killed, living with what's been done is her hell. her Maw.
@@UltimateGamerCC 100% Agree.
As they made death mean nothing in this Universe, its about the only way they could have gone with it.
Did you skip a sylvannas and uther cinematic?
He has watched like 44 SL cinematics and cutscenes. There was a list in his Discord. He usually watches on a livestream and then will post important ones here.
Greetings! I think you missed one cinematic. The one it shows when you defeat Sylvanas in raid and Jailer optains the last sigil.
czcams.com/video/G-woEHiGYpU/video.htmlsi=OUgLSfrmYz04R1Im
Plus the the one after that which Uther tries to talk with Sylvanas while she is in comma state.
He watched it in livestream.
I still feel so sorry for Zovaal and hope, one day, we’ll get him the justice he deserves.
Bite me.
Notice who was NOT shown in the first cinematic. Every covenant's leader is shown, except... The Primus. And hear the chains? Only can be heard when The Primus is addressing Zovaal even though Zovaal is chained in every other scene but we don't hear chains then. Wanna know something else really fishy? The Primus wears a sash with domination runes on it, the exact same runes etched into Zovaal's skin, and they're the same runes on the Lich King's sword Frostmourn. Why is The Primus wearing domination runes when he was a "prisoner" held captive in the Maw? I bet you anything that Zovaal was just a distraction. The real Jailer made us a fool. He's the most brilliant tactician ever, because he can see all outcomes of a battle thanks to a shady deal. Take a look at concept art of the Jailer, looks just like The Primus. And you wanna know the kicker here? What did we do for The Primus? We made a new arbiter and what did we reforge from the broken Lich King's Helm of Domination? The Crown of Wills, placed neatly on the head of the sole individual deciding every single soul's afterlife. Helm of Domination / Crown of Wills, The Primus played us and made us the fools, made us believe he was a prisoner with his memories stripped from him, where we then killed Zovaal all while The Primus - the REAL Jailer - reforged his previous helm into something more innocent looking, and we handed him control of every soul's destiny in the afterlife.
yeah, i always thought that will be the story twist that will salvage the Jailer story. Zovaal would be just a second in command and Primus would be the real enemy in the end. Didnt happend, and Shadowlands became the weakest story in WoW... shame
So righteous Tyrande, someone who imprisoned and forgot about someone for 10,000 years lol
That was Malfurion & Jared Shadowsongs choice to imprison Illidan at the end of the War of the Ancients, not Tyrandes. She supported but did not make the judgement.
@@gleadr6869 as though that matters? She was head of state
@AndyJP Nope not yet, she just became high priestess. It was after all that they became leaders of the NElfs. That is why Jared had stack in the decision, he was the defacto leader since the queen and ravencrest were dead.
@@gleadr6869 Yes, High Priestess, which was head of state then, Shadowsong led the army. Regardless, at any point in 10,000 years could she have said "this is enough punishment." No, she literally forgot.