The Art of Logic | Eugenia Cheng | Talks at Google
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- Dr. Eugenia Cheng is Scientist In Residence at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. She won tenure in Pure Mathematics at the University of Sheffield, UK, where she is now Honorary Fellow. Alongside her research in Category Theory and undergraduate teaching her aim is to rid the world of “math phobia”. Eugenia is also math columnist for the Wall Street Journal and a concert pianist.
Emotions are powerful. In newspaper headlines and on social media, they have become the primary way of understanding the world. With her new book "The Art of Logic: How to Make Sense in a World that Doesn't", Eugenia has set out to show how mathematical logic can help us see things more clearly - and know when politicians and companies are trying to mislead us. This talk, like the book, is filled with useful real-life examples of logic and illogic at work and an essential guide to decoding modern life.
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This is one of the best talks I've listened to in quite some time, Eugenia, and I am captivated by both the way you think and express yourself. Bravo!
Best talks...? This woman doesn't even know that already Spinoza and Descartes tried the same, called the "geometrical method". But unlike her, Spinoza and Descartes was very concerned to get the fundamental facts right, not only assume things out of pure prejudices. www.iep.utm.edu/geo-meth/
You need to listen to more talks then
This was an amazing talk but I do want to know what talk u would recommend that is better than this...I'm good willing to give benefit of the doubt
This is truly going to revolutionize the way people think in general ... this talk ought to be included as a compulsory part of school education for kids and also for politicians before they enter office...
" Science is understanding things around us, Art is interpret things around us". Thank you for this insighful talk, Dr. Eugenia
I think her Royal Institution talk was substantially the same talk (so if you're a fan, like me, you could now watch that one, too). Apparently that talk is called How to Think Like a Mathematician.
If there are pretty much the same, then why watch the other one? Is it a better delivery?
very interesting talk. thanks!
This channel had a poll recently about what to discuss next, & my response was almost exactly the topic of this talk.
I couldn't tell you whether that merely reinforces my own laziness, or whether I take it as a signal this kind of conversation really ought to be had more often.
Either way, it's much appreciated !
Superb! What a talented and amazing person.
Thank you for sharing your understanding and experience; your presentation is inspiring and thought-provoking!
On another video explaining category theory: "an object is defined by its context not its content"-- I feel like she may have missed that memo...
Brilliant - thanks a lot for sharing!
Awesome talk! Really enjoyed it:)
Fantastic talker and perfect content.
Amazing talk.
As accepted mam, thank you so much.
Amen Eugenia. Thank you for your contribution. Other distinguished mathematicians out there? Any thoughts on what we're experiencing today? Or maybe everyone is too overwhelmed...
Awesome talk.
first principles?
Brilliant!
I have that book, great book
The idea that comes up during the Q&A comes from Confucius. The chain of change begins with oneself and permeates outward circle of influence by circle of influence..
Very interesting how such logical systems can produce such flawed conclusions when the input used is false. I wonder how complex it would be if we made an "Abstract Math Chat" system where people could add and rewire. It should be possible to build a system where we could express ideas to each other more efficient, but it might be hard to get around flawed input in the equations. At least we could point out where we see logical fallacies easier. I wonder if we will send thoughts of geometrical patterns to each other in the future to prove our points and if we will be able to agree more with each other.
I love you, beautiful person. God bless. Incredible.
Never quit.
Mind-blowing concept. One of the best talks I've seen. It is like the time we take analytic geometry and ties together algebra and geometry. This time is is a logic and geometric union.
Mind-blowing concept...? This woman doesn't even know that already Spinoza and Descartes tried the same, called the "geometrical method". But unlike her, Spinoza and Descartes was very concerned to get the fundamental facts right, not only assume things out of pure prejudices. www.iep.utm.edu/geo-meth/
@@Stroheim333 yes.
"each of richenss, whiteness, and malness confers privilege"
like bruh...
and also the concept of privilege as they formulate it too....
@@gwho Right, mind-blowing stupidity from a person backed by people who _believe_ they are logical and intelligent, but in reality doesn't know what they are talking about. Logic only works with facts, not with prejudices and close minded political dogmas.
@@Stroheim333 "Doesn't even know"? That's an extraordinarily condescending thing to say, considering that she taught logic at Cambridge!
@@sriramsrinivasan2769 She is simply incompetent and ignorant. And if you ever have studied at university yourself, you should know that these doctors and professors and whatever, hardly ever are any intellectual superhumans (although a great deal of them want to believe that). On the contrary, some of the most confused, reality-detached individuals are working there, and for example blabber postmodernist nonsense galore.
I certainly love those pretty synovial chondral joints.
this isn't logic. this is a process of emotional rationalization. Logic is the art of non-contradictory identification.
This lady thinks political opinion and "science" are the same thing.
She is a true avatar of leftist lunacy and represents their warped perceptions well.
That too, is based on an assumption. This is Rand's definition of it... Could be logically argued.
V. Nice as expected..
What she is providing is a means of tweezing apart the underlying factors and their relationships that bring about an outcome, an outcome we fail to see because we are too emotionally invested in how we feel. For example, I absolutely don't understand why the overwhelming number of evangelicals are Trump supporters. It baffles and angers me. BUT, if someone, more intelligent than I, could write down all the possible factors and the relationship of those entities to each other, than I may get a better sense of how/why they feel the way they do (not that it's morally correct or congruent with their teachings) - then it makes me more intelligent via "logic." Then, at least to some degree, there is better understanding than the more crude blanket of emotional disdain that consumes our political rancor.
Evangelical protestants support Trump for the same reason that Catholics support him: because because they generally support Republican Party and are against the Democrat Party and Hilary Clinton, and Trump was the Republican presidential candidate and supports making murder of unborn children illegal, and enforcing border and immigration laws.
How is your leftist warped reality going these days?
More people are suffering at the border than ever before.
Looks like your utopian fantasy never showed up, post Trump.
I wonder why that is?
They should allow you to like a video more than once. Profound!
Logic as an art: this happens when we connect it to life. Thank you for this lecture.
mathematiciuans cannot do art. she's a mathematician and irrelevant to life.
It was great
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This proves the need for Hegelian historicism [minus his totolatarianism] and pre-logical positivistic philosophy, such as the American Pragmatists.
Although I see the value of logic, what Teacher Cheng does not address is that logic dictates that people should learn proper moral values. If they did, many of the responses she suggested wouldn't happen. F.i. the example of the man that doesn't feel respected and thus cans give love. That is the result of being raised into a selfish person. With a bit more sense of altruism he would not blackmail his partner by witholding love due to not experiencing enough respect. It is illogical to accept avarice as normal. It reduces the person to the mechanical level of a car. It is especially the interconnectedness she addresses that makes it valuable to see non linearity as being part of logic, and not just simple linear causalit
so, in the end, Is logic to judge?
math depends on the limits/laws that are programmed to make process.
yes part of the world does not think
Eugenia is brilliant, and I love how she applies mathematical concepts, category theory in particular, to various important aspect of the real world. I also like the definitions she presents of intelligence and stupidity and how there are roughly the same proportion of stupid people in just about every group!
Ms. Cheng brings out the beauty of Maths . Great Talk , Lucky Google staff !
When people who are leaders in society and who enjoy the most privilege are the same people who are illogical then my position is that they cannot be swayed, no matter how optimistic we can be. Scripture alludes to this that wicked people will continue a wicked course even if they existed in a world where righteousness was the order of the day. I say this to say, as much as we would like to save the world in our capacity as well meaning humans, we are confronted with an enemy that is much too stubborn and cunning for our likes, and only in putting our hopes in the Creator can we restassured that we will be rid of these pests.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🧠 Introduction to Importance of Logic in a Confusing World
- Discusses the significance of logic in navigating a world that often lacks coherence.
- Acknowledges the urgency to address current events, leading to a more political exploration of how math can provide solutions.
02:22 🤔 Mathematics as a Framework for Better Thinking
- Explores the idea that pure mathematics serves as a framework for agreeing on things and thinking effectively.
- Highlights the misconception that math is only relevant to applied contexts, emphasizing its broader impact on human thought.
05:42 🔄 Levels of Abstraction and Analogy in Mathematics
- Illustrates the concept of abstraction using examples like counting, emphasizing the importance of finding the right level of abstraction.
- Shows how mathematical abstraction helps in understanding different situations and viewpoints.
08:33 ➗ Precision in Defining Levels for Clearer Discussions
- Discusses the importance of making precise the levels of abstraction in mathematical thinking.
- Gives examples related to addition, multiplication, and the commutativity principle.
10:01 🌐 Applying Abstract Mathematics to Real-Life Issues
- Applies abstract mathematics to real-life scenarios, such as debates about same-sex marriage and potential slippery slope arguments.
- Emphasizes the need to differentiate between various levels of analogy to have more nuanced discussions.
11:26 🔗 Embracing the Interconnectedness of Things
- Discusses the interconnected nature of various aspects of life, discouraging simplistic blame attribution.
- Uses the London Tube map analogy to illustrate interconnectedness and the importance of focusing on relevant aspects in different situations.
13:47 💔 Understanding Relationship Breakdowns Through Interconnected Arrows
- Applies the concept of interconnectedness to relationship breakdowns, showcasing how actions and feelings can form a complex cycle.
- Advocates for identifying the weakest link in the cycle to break it and facilitate better understanding and communication.
16:12 🚓 Analyzing Police Violence Through Interconnected Causes
- Examines the interconnected causes of police violence against black people, emphasizing the need for a more nuanced discussion.
- Encourages considering the responsibilities of those with more power in the situation.
18:36 ✈️ Complex Chain of Events: The United Airlines Incident
- Breaks down the complex chain of events leading to the United Airlines incident, highlighting interconnected factors.
- Emphasizes how changing any one factor could have altered the outcome, demonstrating the complexity of real-world situations.
20:02 🍔 Weight Gain and Factors
- Weight gain is influenced by the balance between energy intake and expenditure.
- Metabolism plays a role in weight gain, affected by factors like sleep, genetics, and exercise.
21:28 💰 Money and Weight Dynamics
- The multibillion-pound food industry influences eating habits for profit.
- Social pressure, emotions, and advertising contribute to overeating and failed attempts at weight loss.
22:21 🗳️ Logic in Political Analysis
- Logic helps understand interconnected factors in complex issues like the 2016 US election.
- The diagram illustrates the interconnectedness of various factors influencing the election outcome.
23:46 🔗 Relationships and Category Theory
- Category theory focuses on studying relationships between things rather than intrinsic characteristics.
- Diagrams illustrate relationships between numbers, revealing patterns and hierarchies.
26:04 🔡 Abstraction in Interconnected Structures
- Abstraction reveals common structures between different scenarios.
- The factors-of-30 diagram is analogous to structures representing relationships between different types of privilege.
28:27 🔄 Pivoting Between Privilege
- Abstract structures aid in understanding privilege and power dynamics.
- Pivoting between scenarios helps empathize with different perspectives on privilege.
33:10 🤔 Understanding Power Differences
- Abstract structures clarify power differences in various contexts.
- Power dynamics in relationships, race, and gender are discussed using the analogy of privilege cubes.
36:30 🧠 Factors of Intelligence
- Intelligence involves being reasonable, powerfully logical, and helpful.
- Emotions play a crucial role in being helpful and understanding others.
39:47 🤔 Abstract Mathematics and Empathy
- Logic and abstract mathematical thinking can help understand others' perspectives.
- Empathy is enhanced by combining logic and emotions, creating a virtuous circle.
41:14 📚 Balancing Helping Others and Self-Care
- Deriving self-worth from helping others is valuable, but it should not lead to martyrdom.
- Balancing self-care and assistance prevents burnout and ensures sustained support.
43:10 🧠 Breaking Down Challenges
- Dealing with complex challenges becomes easier with practice and familiarity.
- Identifying weak points in the challenge structure aids in initiating effective change.
45:04 🌐 Engaging People Via Logic
- Optimism for change is grounded in the belief that many are open to logical reasoning.
- Starting with individuals genuinely willing to improve facilitates broader societal shifts.
47:28 🎨 Logic as an Art Form
- Viewing logic as an art involves interpreting and understanding the world.
- Logic becomes an art when it requires emotional engagement and nuanced communication.
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Started well, but got lost in abstraction. Too many words not enough math.
I sense she is a fan of critical race theory and critical theory in general. I also think she would of been a fan of Phrenology in the 1800's had she been a Dr. of math at an art school back then.
This chick went off the rails early in the video with the critical race intersectionality BS. Interesting how she confuses Privilege vs hard work and sacrifice. Since she feels she and other Asians are so privileged, I suggest that she move 5 or 10 homeless bums into her home and take care of them. Oh and I'm sure she will make sure the homeless people are people of color lest she risk helping "Privileged" white folks. Enjoy the equality radical feminist chick.
I think she would question Phrenology and break up such concept right away.
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In every one of those categories theres more abstraction to be done. Marriage affects legal status. It would be wonderfull for legal reasons to marry a ghosts, or a brick, or bricks in gral.
I love abtraction
I remember this woman teached me how to screw up a bagel
the concept of privilege as they use it, rich being privileged, white being privileged, male being privileged.
... are all so blatantly flawed that it's amazing people just say them with a straight face.
Exactly
But how do you measure who has more power in a romantic relationship? Asking for a friend.
I personally think the “power” in a romantic relationship is given. Who wears the pants in the relationship? Although it sounds a little backwards, whoever would do less for the other has more power. If you are the one cooking, cleaning, or doing the overall chores, then you’re significant other most likely has more power. If you are the one watching your significant other doing the cleaning, then you probably have more power in the relationship.
A very imperfect reasoning but it’s a start.
So, anyone who struggles to ascend the ladder of survival (by any means that nature (evolution) has endowed him), and succeeds is then considered privileged?!
She Not really show that
Numbers always have the same value, so the diagram with numbers makes obvious, logical sense. However, the factors in your relationship diagram do not. The general categories A, B and C can have substitutes like, Men, Elves and Gandalf or droids, Jedi and Skywalker. Some Tolkien fan or Star Wars nerd will understand the relationship and accept the hierarchy without further proof. You've skipped over the proof of your factors, so the analogy fails. You also don't adequately prove how more mathematical connections in one diagram equate to more privilege in relationships in another. Logic isn't about analogy and inference, it's about proof.
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Logic is a useful tool no doubt, but her examples about marriage does not take into account procreation as a factor of why a man and women should constitute a marriage.
I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that gay people shouldn't have their marriage recognized by their government because they can't impregnate each other?
What a scarry mix of ideology with math. This kind of monster theories appears when you go to far into abstraction and you forget what is the real world, what is the natural law, and how complex is the real human nature.
That mix created the computer scince, greatest achievement of human being. Are you scared of cs?
Human brain can count the amount of suger in your packet of lunch ?
Do you serve up your dinner on a plate and the sit on it in an attempt to eat your dinner with your arse hole? No! nobody does such things because we all know it wouldn't work. Logic and common sense exist for a good reason so we can pick the right course of action to achieve our goals as efficiently as possible so please for the love of god use them as often as possible, at least that way you'll end up with a full belly rather than a huge mess to clean up. Kmt
She think in terms of collective and not individual, very sad ...
Racism is the lowest form of collectivism (Ayn Rand)
"Especially older men". Amazing how the first human tendency is to lurch into stereotyping. Always someone they don't identify with.
What is she saying? Pure mot? I can't understand her.
Pure maths.
She is reary spreaking obout da progresshive propogranda. Basically she is saying that all problems are white people's fault.
It's pure like not contaminated by impurities
you have reinforced for me the increasing poverty of academia and have reinforced the great law thinker immortalized at the Capitol Building, Moses Maimonides, that intellect is our highest ability and that morality is the most important topic. Socrates summed it up as justice being the highest value. This talk underlines the disaster of the social sciences and the even worse relative morality of John Rawlsian liberalism which values imagination and theory.
Is articulate, and a competent applied mathematician, but in books and talks, unfortunately chooses to apply it to identity politics, essentially bashing SWM’s. This gets old fast.
Terence Tao is standing on Everest right now as a mathematician, and enlivens math topics w/o the obvious biases. Students in tune with retaining fair objectivity seem to prefer that approach.
The almost endless succession of big words had me thinking that she was more out to impress her audience with her vocabulary rather than her ability to communicate a message.
I wished I was a rich black dude instead of an average white dude
An authoritative government like communist China puts forward the idea of a Win-Win outcome is seen here as intelligent why aren't more governments are adopting this idea. Even supposedly intelligent people don't like the win-win outcome in any negotiation, e.g. among politicians in international politics, esp between Russia and US and or China and US. In summary, most politicians are irrational and illogical becasue most of them are lawyers.
Thanks for this Interesting lecture.
Yes, because if a foreign government does anything bad it must be bad under all circumstances. Keep living like a moron.
The problem with the unfalsifiable privilege hypothesis is it's a false premise. She's not stupid, but she's ironicly funny when she speaks of illogical positions while holding an illogical position
Unfalsifiable. That's why I used that word. She, and myself, and countless other successful colored people are evidence that the premise is false, but her hypothesis is different. It may be true, as she proposed it, but unfalsifiable. It's a lot like other oppression hypothesis; you need to be oppressed in order to see the oppression. This makes it subjective in nature, and not objectively verifiable.
And false and unfalsifiable are not mutually exclusive. Something can be both false, and unfalsifiable. Such as the god of Abraham. It is not testable, so it's not falsifiable, but similarly, several mutually exclusive traits that are commonly attributed to it throughout the abrahamic religions make it an impossibility, so it must be false. False, and unfalsifiable at the same time.
Of course Nuvey ignored all that because when he heard the word privilege, he had a mental breakdown.
I didn't ignore anything. I don't seem to get notifications for these replies. Not sure how to change that.
The entire idea is based on subjective feelings. It can't be falsified because it can't be proven how people feel using objective evidence.
@@nuvey7939 No it isn't...She quite literally talks about it herself with pivot and that there are varying levels of privilege. And you're demonstrating what she picked up on is people misunderstand what the theory is and overgeneralise it.
@ippos_khloros I understand the meaning of 'exaggeration'. It's 'over'exaggeration that is meaningless.
She is right on almost everything , but please live math away from garbge
Math is all about logic.
pure claptrap.
graphing the common divisors by their own common divisors into a hierarchical cube adds no new math information and gives no insight more than the fundamental theorem of arithmetic. It states that all numbers are prime or product of 2 primes. The fundamental theorem of arithmetic can be stated more succinctly and is more general than the diagram championed in this video.
The transition to equity and diversity is a perversion of math from a tool to understand reality to bolstering the present politically correct teaching at our universities that math is sexist and racist. This program needs to be called out for what it is, ie. Allowing everyone to proclaim their victimhood. The lecturer asserts that bias and racism is the privilege of some people because of power structures inherent in the "cube of mathematics" The assertion that intelligent people do not hurt others is contradicted by our everyday experience and is untenable. .
This girl is not just so logically smart, but so sexy as well; a complete woman.
people are so easy to impress here. insufficient analogy is no 1 problem in discussions. and you just need a little of formal logic which is taught at law or philosophical studies for example. You pay thousands for education which is at your fingertips from so many years. How come that this is hot topic? this book is so cliche. no new concepts. just exploiting illiteracy. and BTW thanks to deep learning math as a narrative science is dead ;)
The book could have been much better but the author's bitterness manifested in so many examples it became tiresome.
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This mathematician must learn Marxism to gain a profound and deep knowledge of class and historical materialism.
This is highly political and biased, so disappointing.