Classic Yu-Gi-Oh Duel BUT Using Video Game Rules!
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- List of Monsters and their Alignments for reference: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
We decided to open a box of Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon, build decks and duel! But this time we're dueling with the same rules used in early retro Yu-Gi-Oh video games like Forbidden Memories and Dark Duel Stories. Monsters are assigned alignments, similar to types in Pokémon, which interact with each other in battle!
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*Hope you guys enjoyed this fun off-beat Yu-Gi-Oh idea! Hopefully it was somewhat easy to follow, but we can totally understand if it wasn't!* 😅
List of Monsters and their Alignments for reference: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_igOk0zt6FxFGDdkt4TdN-O-uoUql0BlC4CgJQbh2mc
Did you get my suggestions like putting the song names used in your videos?
it would be fun to see you use some of the other old rules lol, like drawing up to 5 instead of drawing once per turn, dumping as many cards as you want from your hand straight to the graveyard (but only playing one card each turn), summoning monsters in face-down attack position and etc
oh actually just to add one more thing: at the end you mention wishing it was easier to know alignments, but the original field spells were actually designed with the alignments from the _manga_ in mind, so for shorthand, you could totally try using that ? (since it says on each card which types they buff)
there wouldn't be as many alignments but it would be like you know forest = forest, wasteland = earth, mountain = thunder, sogen = fire, umi = water
and the strength cycle would presumably go water > fire > forest > earth > thunder
as for the magic cycle, i reckon you could probably also just do types like spellcaster > fairy > fiend > machine
(loosely based on the original magic cycle but "dream" is replaced with machine because machine doesn't appear on any of the original field spells, and also it would be lore accurate to joey vs bandit keith for them to be strong against spellcasters)
( pyro also doesn't appear on any of the original field spells but you can lump it in with sogen since the manga associates the sogen field with fire for whatever reason )
I really enjoyed this video game style duel. Especially doing it irl. You should definitely make it a series.
This was a really interesting video. Seeing this with more sets (whether stand-alone or something like a progression series) would be cool would watch.
One thing I've thought about was trying to assimilate duelist of the roses into real life. So I wonder what your tactic would be for that
Ritual monsters really should have been in the Extra Deck from the start. That would have made them a LOT more playable.
Yes was looking for this comment
i've thought this for a while, same for cards like great moth and the like which just Happened due to effects in the original story
For real. In order to play a ritual monster, you need at least 3 cards in hand in order to play a ritual monster (monster of sufficient level, ritual spell, ritual monster). Granted, they have searching options, but it's generally just not worth throughout ygo history
In OG Yu-Gi-Oh (at least the anime and manga), there were NO fusion or ritual monster cards. If you looked closely, you could see that those monsters only appeared on the holographic/magical field and not on the card playing surface.
@@petersimpson4648 that's not true, you could clearly see the Black Skull Dragon in the Yugi/Joey duel on the field
i swear this set actually feels a lot more balanced with these rules, like it was designed with them in mind
Honestly, yeah. When you think about how quickly the game devolved into Mechanical Chaser beatdown it does feel a lot more balanced with the game rules. Also forces you to have a more diverse deck.
Wonder what modern would look like with the same rules, tearliments brought low by a battery man deck would make me laugh for sure
@@92Roar LOL oh god time for someone to do a junior journey type progression series for a ruleset like this
Actually, it maybe was. LoB was created including many OCG sets wich were released at this time. So it is the reason of the time we got the tcg those cards were that hardly unbalanced. And the first YuGiOh rulings were completly different too... i don't know this ruling, i did never translate it or read into it. But the original first ruling was different and i would say: we got the duelist kingdom arc with an own ruleset (ok that one is the original source if we talk about the manga) and we got many games with that ruleset, even on GBA (the sacred cards and reshef of destruction).
@@92Roarit would depend if it's a destroy or a send. If it's destroy I think tear could just float through and clear with repeated rheich use.
I agree. Having alignment matter in conflict, and having Defense mean something even in attack mode what have helped card balance a lot.
This video must've been so confusing for them to make, since those old Yu-Gi-Oh video games rules barely made any sense
Makes me wonder how much pausing to read the rules they had to cut out of the video lol
they make sense
Some of the older video games you didn't even need to tribute summon level 5 and higher. So they didn't even need the tribute summon They could have just played it.
Fun fact, but Forbidden Memories rules actually have a notable similarity with Rush Duels. You have to draw until you have five cards at the beginning of your turn in both games, kinda interesting coincidence.
Imagine face down Attack mode
Hadn’t heard of that before. That sounds like a lot of fun. A full hand each turn allows for a larger variety of strategies/counters and simultaneously depletes your deck faster so there’s more pressure to end the duel before you run out of cards to draw
@@Brave_New_Tube worth a try, you can try the rom hacks out there that have updated cards too
@@Brave_New_TubeRush Duel is a whole lot of fun, it uses separate card pools so all the insane rules aren't that game-breaking.
Other than draw until you have 5 cards in your hand, you can also normal as many times as you want during your main phase. So you can normal summon two level 4 monsters and then tribute for a level 8 monster in the same turn. The way they balanced this is to make all monster effects once per turn, no quick effects, no trigger effects, no graveyard effects, and no searching. It's all about rebuilding your board every turn as you and your opponent keeps destroying each other's field. If the decks have the same strength, the game can last quite long, with no players ever feeling like they're in huge disadvantage.
That said, the format is not officially available outside Japan, if you want to play officially, you can either play Duel Links (which is a hybrid between Speed Duel and Rush Duel) or play the Rush Duel game on Nintendo Switch, neither have the majority of the cards in the format. If you want to try the format out "unofficially" you can always try printing proxy or play on fanmade simulators.
But I really do hope you give it a try!
Yeah, i noticed such things before rush duel, too. The abilities in speed duel for example strongly remind me to the deckmasters from the Noah filler arc in Duel Monsters. And those Video Game mechanics reminds me to Duelist Kingdom (the Field spells were calculated simulary, if not the same. This Fire beats Plant thing (i remember Joey vs Mai: Land(Earth) loses against Air (wind) and so on.
I've been playing through a bunch of retro Yugioh video games and that's what inspired this video. Have any of you guys played the old video games?
Still have my old ps1 disc. I play legacy of the dualist on my switch still
WCT 2005 best older game, D.D. Assailant from DBT my favorite promo.
Yu-gi-oh World Championships 2004 is the one I always return back to. It never bores me.
I speedrun forbidden memories from time to time, while these weren't the actual rules from that game I think what you guys came up with was better for a video and in person duel.
my friend let me borrow forbidden memories once and i still think about it but watching people talk about how brutal it can be, ill keep my memories untainted
Honestly, this was actually pretty good. A lot of what made playing older cards a slog was that it was just whoever managed to stick the biggest guy on board, but the alignment system makes it so that doesn't work anymore.
Forbidden memories was such a great and frustrating game simultaneously. If you don’t have the exact perfect deck it’s impossible to beat
I just went "Summoned Skull beatdown with Red-Eyes B. Dragon and 5 Exodia pieces" when I played the game.
@@nanya524 in the endgame ladder that strategy wouldn’t work. You’d basically need exodia in your opening hand I think 5 times in a row if I remember correctly. It might be 6 times, it’s been a really long time since I’ve completed the story.
There’s actually some really cool videos about players beating the game with mono type challenges and other like rituals ! Jon_oh for a good example
@@RedVeguito that’s cool, I’ll definitely check that out. The only one I pulled off was the twin headed thunder dragon strat
i mean jon_oh has done challenge runs of it with different types only so....
Honestly that ended up being an amazing game.
Love how it ended like Marik trying to make Joey suffer. But this time Joey completed the final attack!
This was surprisingly a really fun game to watch! I loved the back and forth so much!
This is a great idea!
Forbidden Memories is hard to replicate as a ruleset for paper play fully (mainly cause of the extensive fusion combinations to make monsters of all sorts) but would enjoy an attempt at that anyway. Failing that Duelist of the roses could be fun?
They would have to build a 7x7 grid and go for it.
Legend Paul vs Alec of Blue-Eyes :D Please do more classic Yu-Gi fights, adding the alignments really spice things up! Keep up the amazing work guys
Is... Is this the start of an alternate format?
yes!
It's really cool to see you guys trying out strange formats like this, I never thought anyone would try to replicate the rulings from Forbidden Memories with physical cards.
From an ominious strat standpoint: continuing this would be a great idea. Gives more of a "what's gonna be where when" vibe, nicely done.
Honestly, this was a lot more engaging to watch. Whenever you guys play with older cards or different formats the matches come down to the wire and it's really anyone's game. I think that's why I like these videos more, because no one just comes through to sweep the match in the first few turns with a whirlwind off effects I can't follow
In the forbidden memories you actually gain 500/500 if you have an advantageous constellation
The instant win from alignments comes from reshef of destruction iirc
I can't remember the name but, there was a prequel game to Reshef, had all the same rules but fans called the game too easy. Developers made the sequel Reshef of Destruction way more grindy and difficult, it was awful and I loved it.
@@mitchsirois606 Sacred Cards
From Dark Duel Stories actually
This was really kind of an amalgamation of the rules from several old-school games (DDS, Forbidden, Sacred Cards, etc.)
oh yeah that's right in some of those old games it seems like every boost is just standardised as 500 for like every effect or equip card or anything lol - although didn't the very first games use like _percentage increases_
I love this idea! I've been working on recreating DotR as a board game for a while now and you've inspired me to recreate TSC/ROD/FM as well.
I think I'll end up taking the real Yugioh monsters and replacing their Attribute (which no longer matters in this format) with the "Summon" they have in TSC/ROD. Then I'll add what that Summon beats and is beaten by on the art. I think making it a Sealed format is smart, for added variety and unpredictability, so I'll make it into a Cube as well.
Thank you for inspiring me!
Yugioh Forbidden Memories was my first Yugioh game and Ioved it I played it for days! Nice video!
I played SO MUCH Dark Duel Stories. Very nostalgic for me! I remember Yami Bakura making me so sad lol. I have the Forbidden Memories / DDS Guide book somewhere too. Awesome vid!
Do you remember the promos you pulled from it?
@@YOFACE9999 I wish 😭 it's been so long , I have no idea rip
@TheMogulJ oof could have had some gold if you pulled a blue eyes or dark magician. But those are hard to pull anyways lol An unopened DDS goes for hundreds of dollars lol
@@YOFACE9999hijacking the thread I remember in fact I still have them I got Seiyaryu , salamander and acid traphole not the best but those are so special to me
@lucamibel yooo same haha I lost them unfortunately. But that was the most common cards you can get.
Really appreciate you guys having the alignments on the screen - no way I was going to remember all that lol
Great video! Loved seeing this old video game format in action
This brought back memories of me playing the Sacred Cards and loving it. This was a real fun twist! Would love to see more!
If y'all end up doing this again, you need to adopt even more of the rules! In the old games, they wasn't such a thing as a "Fusion monster", it's just that some monsters could be summoned from outside of your deck by fusing cards in your hand/on your field. Technically, your "Metal Dragon"s, "Darkfire Dragon"s, and even "Gaia, the Dragon Champion"s should've gone in the Main deck. Ditto for cards like "Crab Turtle" and "Hungry Burger", they could go in the Main deck or be summoned from outside the deck using the appropriate Ritual card.
Just imagine how great it would feel to just normal summon a "Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon" from your hand in Metal Raiders!
I love this idea!! Would love to see more weird old game formats
Definitely needs to be a series! With the staking rarest card from rare hunters. Could use people's ideas from the comments where the opponent gets to pick the card that's staked.
Your duels and ideas keep getting better and better! I was so excited starting from Pauls fusion summon omg xd
This is great!!! I love the custom rules!! Would love it if you guys would expand on this more as a series! The Yu-Gi-Oh video games have some true gems!
That man eater flip was CLUTCH! How is this more entertaining than base rules?!?
This is my favorite Yugioh format. takes me back to DDS, Sacred Cards and ROD.
Love that yall typed in the alignments to the cards on screen. Good stuff!
I was really hoping for that Sparks to deal the last 200 lp, would've been anime worthy lol.
Definitely wanna see more of this. Brought back memories of playing The Sacred Cards way back. Interesting idea keep it up.
Using effects from Duelists of Roses,Sacred Cards/Reshef of Destruction is always fun.
Loved this. Will absolutely binge this series, the chaos was amazing and I know you 2 will metagame it to make it even more fun
Dark duel stories was my favorite as a kid, I loved the card crafting and entering ids from cards into the game to unlock your cards
I never played that Yu Gi Oh game but know how crazy the rules could get in video games (Duelist of Roses and Capusle Monster Coliseum specifically), but this duel was fun to watch!
I hope yall continue this series!!
I do genuinely love the idea of the Attribute/Alignment mechanic.
It would be interesting to watch you play the Bandai version of the card game using the Attribute system as well.
Maybe give Kingdom Duels a shot as well, it's a fan made project replicating the DUelist Kingdom rules
This was really fun! I love different ways of play like this! Maybe try incorporating more early vg rules like one card per turn?
Try duelist of the roses rules
I love this! The old video games are still some of my favorites! If y'all do more of these videos in the future, you could probably put stickers on sleeves to show a monster's affinity.
I can remember the first time I played Reshef of Destruction and how it took me awhile getting used to the alignments, but man did they both irritate me and bail me out of tough situations. Entire duels turned around by one card.
I would love to see more duels like this, definitely feel nostalgic and a welcome change of pace for the format!
Hey, i just wanted to thank you for enteraining myself. You and one German Yugi-Tuber reactivated my love for this franchise and i am playing YGO for 3 years again thanks to you :>
This was very fun to watch. The element usage from Sacred Cards in this was also a fun touch for the duel. I'd love to see more duels of this down the road
I find it interesting to see stuff like this. It's always cool to find unique ways to play a game you like.
Love seeing these kinds of duels. Please do more!!😊
To really play by forbidden memories rules, you should fuse using types only, and you can put fusions in the main deck, and normal summon anything without tributes.
Duelist of the Roses still remains my favorite oldschool format of Yu Gi Oh. Would be interesting to see it adapted into a physical version.
Loved the idea of using the videogame rules for paper games! It seemed to me the game and the card designs were create with these rules in mind and they felt really balanced and fun! Can't wait to see more!
Wow, these are intricate rules - thanks for making this!
This was way more fun than i expected haha I want more videos like this
It was a ton of fun watching a duel with some old duelist kingdom/ video game mechanics. I never played the games myself, but I'd watch another video like this
really came down to the wire, great duel guys! easily the most fun LoB duel I've ever seen :)
Was really waiting for Paul to pop Sparks once Alec dropped down to 200 LP
If you do this again, you could always sleeve the cards and use color-coded stickers to signify the allignments, that way you don't have to constantly look them up during the duel
That is a genius idea!
This video was really fun to watch. I hope you guys play with these rules again in the future.
This reminds of some Japanese CZcamsrs following the full rules of Forbidden Memories. That will be much harder than how you guys did it but it was very much enjoyable! I hope this new series continues! Would be fun!
You guys are amazingly creative, love to see these kind of duels, do more with og cards!!
This is so funny. Imagine having a blue eyes but losing to its weakness.
in the games it happened allot with the old rules it was frustrating sometimes lol I had a Blue Eyes and some little 200ATK monster was able to destroy it.
This was such a killer idea. I grew up on dark duel stories and those crazy rules. I'd love to see you guys try to do like a progression style series with this. I feel like it would be especially cool once you get to the rituals.
You absolutely have to continue this series! This was really fun to watch and I can't wait to see what's next from APS. Pass turn.
I actually really likedd this "format". though it is a little weird that alignment kills, maybe they should just get like a 50 percent atk/def bonus. but either way great video!
Man you guys really know how to make interesting yugioh videos! Loved how one person was about to win then the other looked like he was unbeatable. Keep up the good work and more pls!
This is the best Yugioh related thing I have seen in a LONG TIME! Keep at it!!
I absolutely love this format of combining different eras of yugioh gaming!
I grew up on the old school yugioh format and watched all of your rare hunters format recently!
So I love to see this just show up in my feed and if you continue it I would watch every video :)
I would love to see this continue I enjoy seeing your takes on yugioh but this was quite the surprise!
That was actually really cool. I remember how bizarre Forbidden Memories was to play when I was a kid.
A fun watch I had no clue what should kill what though 😆 I didn't understand those games growing up either
Forbidden Memories was a weird game. I emulated it a few years ago and used cheats to give myself the strongest deck possible in the game and I STILL couldn't beat it
That was very entertaining to watch. Great video idea as always, guys
Very cool concept guys, more of these please!!
When sleeving up, you could put little reminder strips of paper or similar in with the card so you don't have to refer to a sheet every time it's played. With that in mind, I feel like Rare Hunters could be restarted with this new rule set and be even more exciting!
Paul really wished he had that sparks in his hand as a back up win con for Succubus Knight at the end there lol
This was a lot of fun! I was hoping so much one of you would pull a playable ritual monster just to see those in action
Whenever I think nothing else could be done you guys do something interesting, keep being a positive influence and inspiration to the community
I really love to see you guys experimenting with alternative formats!
Ah Forbidden Memories. That game was frustrating until I took the time to memorize the Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon combos. The game was SOOOOOO much easier after that, lol. I haven't played in 20 years or so but this makes me want to play again.
Thank you for another entertaining video, see ya in the next one!
This was super fun to watch! If memory serves me right from DDS, I believe only the most recent monster to enter the graveyard is visible for revival cards though.
The yugioh forbidden memories rules are so silly yet so fun. One of the coolest games from my childhood and possibly my favorite one.
Me and a friend have played anime decks for years now and we decided to put Ritual Monsters in the "Fusion/Extra Deck" just so we could play with them more often, Duelist Kingdom gave us the excuse and it was a great decision plus alot of fun 👌
This was fun, it would be so interesting to see you two further your decks with the other boosters from og yugioh 👍👍👍
I liked this! I think custom rules make really old school yugioh be quite fun to play (and watch). I've made up a lot of custom rules to my personal draft cube and it's a lot of fun.
Fusion Summoning not needing Polymerization is such a fun idea - and actually makes those weaker fusions usable outside of abusing stuff like Instant Fusion. It was fun seeing some of those monsters actually get used.
This is VERY AWESOME 😎💯💯 HONESTLY I GOT SO MUCH NOSTALGIA on this when I was in Middle School 🥰🥰❤️❤️✨✨
GREAT VIDEO
Really fun duel to watch, i'd definitely consider to play with my friends by these rules. Also great video, would love to see more of them and continue the good work. (sorry for bad grammar)
Eternal Duelist Soul was my first Yugioh game. Loved it
This was a intriguing concept! It really changes the layout of the game to have such an elemental sephirot of weakness VS strength. The only thing that would have made it better was BS Duelist Kingdom rulings based on card text! Reminds me of the old DD Tower event in Duel Links or Wave Duels two of my favorite events I miss greatly.
Great idea guys! Would love to see this one continue.
Thanks for another great video!
I'd love to see more of you all playing this format.
It's such an entertaining twist I want to see more.
Hungry burger decs inc?
Never thought of playing yugioh this way, and tbh it sounds pretty fun and interesting! Excited to see how the duel turns out! I definitely like this idea and want you guys to do more of it with the other oldschool packs! Would also be pretty fun to see you guys do this type of thing with a new yugioh set as well since times have changed SO much, i think it would be very interesting to see how that would unfold! Great video and great work duelists!
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PS: would also be a fun idea of oldschool joey and pull from an older set and just treat the fusion monsters like a normal monster and put them in the regular deck
This is really interesting since I never played forbidden memories, sounds like a great way to enjoy yugioh with a twist!
It actually felt very fair in the sense that monsters always felt vulnerable. You also need a variety of monsters to make sure you can recover for the next turn. The concept of having engine specific cards would be detrimental here because it's easy to counter. if we got a modern version of this and you had a third person make a judgement call on what attribute the monsters fell into, I think the video would do very well.
Best duel I've seen in years
This was dope!! More of this please !!
This was a ton of fun. Definitely down for more!
This is a really cool way to play! I quite enjoy the concept
This was an absolute blast to follow along to, and it would be an awesome format idea
I got one of these boxes for Christmas as a kid. I can smell these cards. My holographic monster reborn was so sick
Man I loved Dark Duel Stories and Sacred Cards. Cool to see you’re doing a video on them. But there is one more rule in the old Gameboy games, and that is that facedown cards only stay on the field one turn I believe, else they go away. It’s use your trap in 1 turn or lose it next turn. At least I think this was how Dark Duel Stories was. Else it was just you can only have one facedown card and if you set another trap it overwrites it.
Anyway I loved this and I sure would love another similar video since you guys asked if there was interest. :)
My brothers, cousins and I love the Yugioh Duelist of the Roses so much we printed boards to play just like the video game ! We still play to this day!
This brings back memories…. Thank you for this fun format!
This series is already fire 🔥
Ps. I loved the music used in the background 💚
Great idea. Different take on a typical duel
Keep up the great work 😃