Only ONE Lawn Application PER YEAR | Do This
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2022
- If you only want to apply product to your lawn one time per year then this is the video for you. I explain what to put down on the same day in the correct order for maximum benefit while demonstrating doing this plan on a project lawn...a friends lawn.
In this video I used products I bought from my local Fred Meyer, the same store I buy my milk and diapers from.
I used a RoundUp Weed killer for lawns products, Ironite, Scotts Turf Builder Triple Action For Seeding Product, and a a few pounds of coated tall fescue grass seed. Any of these products can be found at stores just down the block from your home and the prices at those stores will probably be the best prices you'll find anywhere.
The alternative to this plan is to apply a weed & feed product in mid to late October, the best time of year to do so. You can find out more of my thoughts on this in the following video: • This Is The ONLY Time ...
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For some reason, these types of videos are my favorite. Fixing the average homeowner's lawn with general big box store products and showing the results in the same video. Love it!
So glad to hear that Thomas! I'll have to continue to mix in projects like this into the pub schedule over the next season...and I agree, extra time for results is usually worth the wait. :)
Great content! I hope you update us with a progress report throughout the year.
No guarantees but I hope I can sneak in an update sometime too
That was an excellent video! I really like how you explained all the steps! Your friends lawn looks significantly better already. You should definitely do another follo-up video
He assures me it looks better in person, has said it looks 10 shades greener to him - I hope the seed matures enough before winter for him though; If I were to take this on as another project lawn I'd definitely work on getting plenty of seed established in those dirt areas to help prevent future weed infestations. Maybe I can get some update clips of the property a month from now if Kamrin helps out. :)
@@TurfMechanic Great to hear that!
I actually reseeded my lawn with Kentucky Bluegrass 2 weeks ago and with perennial ryegrass one week ago. I already have some germination….is it too late to add the Scott’s triple action product you used. I did do an application of tenacity and poa constrictor a week prior to seeding.
By the way, I started watching your video’s about 2-3 months ago thinking they were silly and simple. But then I noticed that I couldn’t stop watching them, and the information you provided was actually pretty good, and the simple way you present your information is very helpful and handy. Keep it up!!!
I'm assuming it's been 3-weeks since you applied Tenancity, if that's right then yeah, you can absolutely apply that triple action stuff from scotts right now. 18-21 days apart is perfect for Mesotrione control. Most cool season lawns still have a few more weeks of growth in them before things really shut down in late fall so don't dilly-dally if you choose to do this...the new grass might fare well with the extra bit of starter fert (phos) just before winter hits. If soil temps are well below 55 then you may not get much of a growth push from the N but the P will help that baby grass root down to get through winter.
As for your other comment, 18 months ago I started experimenting with "standard" youtube lawncare edits, music, cinementography, etc. It wasn't my style. I have since doubled down on basic edits as full of info as possible (sometimes too long winded admittedly).
I try to visualize a neighbor in front of me with nothing but time to kill as they ask me questions about what I'm doing and why. It's not a style that resonates with everyone but I LOVE seeing that so many people out there apricate the style I take. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your time here on the channel. Super glad to have you in the audience Chris!
Really enjoyed this one Brian. Would like to see the results in spring. I think I would have thrown some straw down in corners just because. For me bad year. Plugged and seeded. No rain. Really bad. No irrigation and to large to sprinkle that long. Stay well my friend
I agree, I'd love to see a Spring update. The homeowner probably will see this video so comment to him to send me spring video clips for an update and I'll try to make it happen eventually. I just moved so I'm 700+ miles away from this lawn now; hard to make vids there without help. :) Straw or peat would have helped but some germination is better than nothing and I was limited to big box store lawn and garden section. I think it'll make a difference next year but a lot of long term success is on the homeowner getting interested in the hobby of lawn keeping.
Great video! Very informative. Can you (or have you) make/made a video on this subject that will absolutely do the same thing for a Zoysia lawn. I need help. I've tried seed, plugs, ran soil tests, used every kind of fertiliser - not much results. Is Zoysia just that difficult. All my neighbours have Bermuda, and that seems to flourish. I want to keep my Zoysia, but, I need help! Thanks!
Hey! Great production!
I hope you are going to put out a few more vids before winter sets in. I’m from Utah and we just got a light snow. It won’t last, but it’s a reminder that winter is right around the corner.
Also, noticed you got your braces off!
Thanks again.
I'm so happy to have those braces off! One of the better days of my life! LOL - I've got a full production lineup that I'll be working on for the next month and I'll probably keep on making some stuff through the winter too. Viewership drops off considerably from November through Feb so most creators don't publish much during those months but I'll be pushing through the entirety of winter just as I've done in years past. This year off season I'll focus on EDU content, coastal (non-dormant grasses), my own new lawn renovation projects, and various garden topics. Hope to see you and some others in the comments even when most lawns are dormant. :) True story, I coached my wife over the phone last night on sprinkler system winterization as last night we dipped into the 20's overnight at our old house in Oregon where she's still at for the next two weeks. I'm now in coastal Southern California so down here it's never freezes, crazy weird if you ask me! :)
@@TurfMechanic that’s super cool. I have mowed my lawn at least once a month thru winter for the last 2 years. I have a KGB and perennial Rye. I love how the rye stays pretty green all winter.
Thanks for everything. I get a lot of knowledge from your channel.
yeah, that's always something I've liked about my rye/kbg lawn over winter, there's always a hint of green in it. You must live a bit further south or coastal? Over on the Oregon coast close to where I used to live the Rye just kept growing all through the winter months. Not a lot of videos out there on cool season grass in winter that isn't dormant :)
@@TurfMechanic I’m in Salt Lake City, Utah. I think the rye has done so well, during the winter months, is because we have had mild winters the last several years. That said, the rye has really struggled during the heat. We had a record of 20ish days of triple digit heat during the summer. The rye SUCKS in heat! Now that I have established turf, I am going to lessen the amount of rye since I have a good amount, probably 50% rye.
I reel mow down to 1/2 inch.
I see the frustration from the little guy.. I think that he understands
It looks like you made it to your new destination okay. Is this the new neighborhood? It appears you will have some new challenges there with a different climate. Great content as usual and the topic of trying to hit it all in one day will appeal to some. I unfortunately (or fortunately) have become a turf geek through your mentoring and the idea of hitting all in one day seems ludicrous! Ha! But in all fairness to the non turf geeks this is great info. Keep the great content coming!
We got to the new place last Sunday morning around 1am. Took 17 hours to make the move with the uhaul, kids, and all the animals. This video however was filmed in Klamath Falls before we moved although the outro was filmed in my new backyard here in Camarillo, CA. I've got so much I want/need to do here I don't know where exactly to start in regards to filming but I'm figuring it out. I'm planning warm season Buffalograss out front with cool season RTF out back. I'm considering a small segment of Kikuyu grass that touches my neighbors property to keep grass type competition low and maybe a small pad of something else for variety sake. So much on my mind and the lawn season will not stop all winter; hope to keep you entertained during those dreary months this season. You are right, for us lawn geeks doing everything at once on one day feels inadequate and just wrong but I always have to remember to make videos for the non-geeks too , those who don't want to go deep; thanks for watching this one and all the others the proceeded it Ray!
@@TurfMechanic Looking forward to your next adventures. Sorry to see you and your family leave "the neighborhood" but I bet the next chapter will be fantastic for you guys! Gonna be interesting watching your next projects.
Awesome video, anyways could you list down all your using product in the comment and sequence of activities steps in order me to practice with my lawn. Thank.
[sorry if this is a repost from another one of your videos but this spot seemed like a better fit]
Can i use this ''approach" if I have some Bermuda grass in my lawn? The Bermuda is growing better than my Fescue & Rye, so I am slowly learning to embrace it. At this point I'd like to have a mix of the Warm & Cool grasses. I am in southern New England and get a lot of sun on my front yard.
Will mesotrione damage/kill the Bermuda? As i try to prevent winter weeds from germinating AND lay down some fescue seed to fill in the bare spots?
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Love your videos, Brian. Overseeded on 10/1 with Black Beauty Ultra (California - Zone 9B) and lawn is coming in nicely. However, I cannot stop these city squirrels from digging up my newly growing lawn (also my neighbor's cats from pooping on my lawn). Any suggestions to help prevent these pests from ruining my lawn?
Animals are frequently the hardest things to deal with in a new lawn. You could cover the area with sheer frost blankets (garden stores frequently carry these this time of year) until the new grass tillers out and thickens up a bit. It's annoying to do but it can work. rolling out a straw blanket can help a lot too but the mess of the straw is also annoying for lots of people to handle. Or you could just expect damage during this phase and then fix those spots in the Spring if they don't fix themselves through the rest of Fall. A lot of Lawntubers make viewers feel like perfection as fast as possible is the goal while I try my best to let my viewers know that gradual improvement over time is a better goal, it's less stressful. This year I dealt with moles damaging two different new lawns, each time they made a hill I just scooped up some of the dirt and squished the rest of the mound back down with my foot and in a matter of weeks you couldn't even tell the damage was done. Thanks for watching BTW; I'm always happy to hear that my videos are being well received. :)
My neighbor had the same problems when trying to establish a new lawn via seeding. For cats he would trap them and then dispose of them. For the squirrels he would bait them with those square, green blocks of rat poison placed around the yard.
@@blaiseducdaumont1280Dispose of the cats? What do you mean dispose of them? Plus rat poison is horrible and should never be used. It’s a horrible death to any animal that might eat the rat.
Hi Brian have you ever tried or look into the product called worm power turf/ sold from reinders/ or worm power LLC its just a liquid extract 👍
I haven't, in fact I haven't looked closely at or tried anything like that. It's on my bucket list though; as I get more and more into organics and natural inputs products like that are screaming at me to give them a look.
@@TurfMechanic yes Brian look into whenever you get time this maybe a good one here are some product names i found research from Tennessee university called “WORM POWER TURF “ sold from REINDERS COMPANY, them 1 other brand called “WORM POWER LLC” just 2 products that looked promising in a few trials and what i like is these products can be applied every 7 days or bi-weekly or monthly check out if can maybe do a VIDEO 👍
omg the braces are off! nice!!!
I'm loving it! It's been a few weeks now 😁
Is all this safe for the dogs?
Good video!
Typically I thought weed killers need to be applied 2-4 weeks before seeding? No concern about reducing germination from applying at the same time as seed?
The bottle he has in the video is not good to use at the same time of seeding but the bag of mesotrione is fine to do with seeding
I also thought the same thing about weed killers. I usually want a month after using weed killers to plant seed
correct, most weed killers will say to wait a month after application to drop seed to ensure best germination and seedling establishment rates. I usually wait around 10 days or so myself and don't feel like I need to wait longer. This experiment however was to do do everything in one day because many people don't want to come out multiple times per season to treat a lawn. The germination of the seedlings may be reduced a bit but it's still possible to get the job done all at once.
You’re right. He wasted this guys money!
There is a pre emergent? And will be spreading seeds!!?
Mesotrione acts like a pre-emergent in this case to weeds but not grass. Alao it has only a short lived effect of hust a few weeks so it will wear off much quicker than standard pre-emergents. The Mesotrione will stop only a minority of grass types from growing from seed but not the commonly seeded cool season grass types like tall fescue (which we used on this lawn), rye, or KBG. Good question!
With weeds like that I would just rake them up and seed from start. Not even bother with chemicals.
You did not add top soil loam before seeding?
Sure didn't, wanted to show only the basics here. Seed will germinate when left uncovered just takes a bit longer. One time a year lawn care people will find this more palatable but of course covering would make for more even (fast) germination.
You mention to put down the round up weed killer before putting down seed but wasn’t your first step on this video putting down seed then last step on this video you sprayed down this round up weed killer?
Can I do this on my lawn instead of tilling the whole lawns and start over I have a lot of weeds
This is a very minimal approach to tending to a lawn. It's far better than doing nothing but it will help. Best for you and most everyone who has a ton of weeds in their lawns though is to apply pre-emergent in Fall, (even now works, novemebr is better than nothing) then again around the 1st of April. Apply FeHEDTA weed killer now before grounds freeze or apply chemical herbicides if your temps are still high enough to kill whatever weeds you still have growing in the lawn. Fertilize the existing grass with synthetic nitrogen in small dose now and then again in late March then move to heavy applications of organic nitrogen in mid-Spring (mid May) along with grub preventative in late May or first of June followed by a heavy overseed of your lawn in late August to early Sept. Lawns can usually be repaired quicker than most people think without tilling to start over...of course that's an option that I've featured on this channel and done on project lawns so it's all about your preferences and level of commitment to following a plan through.
That Mesotrione will damage perennial rye and bluegrass. Sometimes it recovers but not so well.
yep, it can cause some temporary bleaching but nothing to worry about long term for most grass types.
@@TurfMechanic glad your videos are popular with the folks here, but just like with roundup, shouldn’t you have mentioned that Mes will turn lawn yellow for a time
possibly I should have mentioned that mesotrione will whiten some grasses temporarily but I focus on long term stuff on the lawn on this channel and although I try to stay more detailed than the average lawn channel I can't say everything in each video otherwise every video would be an hour long - no joke. There is so much that I feel like I gloss over in my videos. Some of my vids are targeted at more knowledgable audiences while others (this one) are targeted more towards beginners. In beginner oriented vids you can't really address everything without overcomplicating the topic. I err on the side of extra info but have to draw the line somewhere and that's why these comments are so important! Thanks for bringing this up; anyone new to lawn care that doesn't know this does now; some grasses will bleach a bit but it's short lived. Over a longer period of time it all ends up looking better and that's the goal, gradual improvement.
I thought that after applying 2,4-D you needed to wait multiple weeks (at least after a few mows) before spreading grass seed on the lawn.
But in this video you sprayed 2,4-D directly on the grass seed 😮.
Doesn't 2,4-D impair seed germination?
You are correct that weed killers can impair seed germination but they won't stop it completely. It's far better to spray weed killers and then wait upwards of a month to seed but that's just one of those "rules" that can be broken if you understand why you may need to break it and what the consequences are. Many people do nothing to their lawns every year so taking more than a single day each year to do lawn applications may seem ludicrous to them - those are the people that this video is geared for. Also, just for clarification we didn't apply 2,4D to the lawn, the herbicidal combo contained different active ingredients. Thanks for your comment; I'm sure it will help educate a bunch of people over time.
@@TurfMechanic Right thanks for that. In Canada we're not able to buy mesotrione products, so 2,4-D was all I could get my hands on. I did a major overseeing project over weedy lawns, and I bet the dump truck of triple mix contained weed seeds too.
I know 2,4-D affects weed foliage, so it wouldn't help much for those weed seeds anyways at the time of seeding.
But how soon can I spray 2,4-D after the grass seed is down and starts germinating? Because my weeds outgrew my rhizomatous tall fescue seeds 😆
I have the same spreader - not a fan. It always leaves stripes 👎
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I thought you can’t put weed killer down when your putting grass seed ???
It will negatively effect germination rates but it won't stop germination completely. It's best to separate the two but if you are ok with the impaired germination rate and need to do it on the same day then it's fine. We're already seeing seedlings so that's what we're after gradual improvements.
Now that you kick started his lawn with very good results hopefully he is motivated and finds the time to keep it up. Even the basic 4 apps per season and regular mowing and watering will make a huge difference. 👍💚🦸
I hope so! Once you start seeing some successes it can be really easy to make that jump into the rabbit hole. :)
I just want to level his lawn near the sidewalk, my OCD kicking in. ha
LOL, you're not alone! I had a conversation with him about that off camera too! :D
He needs so much dirt around those sidewalks
Cameron needs an intervention!
I'm working on him! He may come around now that he's watching my vids and ive worked on his yard. Sidenote, he is the talent behind my drone shots at my main yard this fall. He's good at what he does for sure.
Soil level low
Grass is overrated, I don't see any flowers for the bee's that pollinate our food.
I'm certainly right there with you on the need to have a diversified yard. In my own yard I emphasize the garden and the beneficial insects that live on the property a lot.
Should you be advocating roundup. There are lawsuits against roundup. It causes lymphoma. He has a child who will probably walk on that lawn
Good comment because it brings up a point that some people don't realize, RoundUp is simply a brand that makes many different products. You are referring to Glyphosate which is arguably the most well known active ingredient used in non-selective vegetation killers that were made extremely popular by RoundUp in the past. The product I used in this video was not a non-selective vegetation killer and did not use Glyphosate even though it fell under the RoundUp brand name. The RoundUp For Lawns product used in this video is not what you are thinking of, it uses the same active ingredients used in many other common OTC weed killers from all of the other brands while not including glyphosate.
@@TurfMechanic you might need to explain that when you mention roundup again. But even with that explanation anything w name roundup on it I, personally would not use.
That's fine, you don't have to use anything with that name on it; choose any other brand on the store shelves of your local store and they all use the same active ingredients. Just stay away from glyphosate as an active ingredient if that's what you are bothered by. If you watch more than one of my videos I regularly talk about active ingredients and I don't emphasize brand. If you understand the active ingredients used in these products then most of the brand differences are a moot point anyway.
I’m sorry but this is advice to achieve a mediocre lawn at best.
It sure is...but it's what some people need; those who don't want to do much more than mow once in a blue moon.
Some of us aspire to a mediocre lawn
I’m only going to do one thing and then does four things
Point was to apply to lawn in one day, not to spread lawn care out into a bunch of different weekends working in the lawn. It's like cleaning out the attic, nobody wants to kill a weekend doing that let alone 6 different Saturdays a year. Lol
I am pulling my hair with our lawn especially the north-northeast side of the lawn. In 2017 I purchased a cubic yard of fill-dirt and soon after I purchased another cubic yard of "Erth Food" czcams.com/video/Znf_JdEhUlA/video.html I spread a bunch of top soil all over the lawn; in 2018 I planted Classic Saint Augustine Sod in the whole front: in 2019 we did Picket Fence builds, in 2020 hurricane Sally hit and destroyed the picket fence and the north-northeast side of the lawn basically died off due to the raw sewage that was running through the neighborhood when the county opened the lift stations due to flooding etc. [Taking care of the property for me is a "thankless task", but on some days it is "therapy": I am doing my best to get through the day. I am thankful my parents are still alive, but they are in their 80's, but damn everything in regards to maintenance and repairs on this property ie like falling in bottomless pit - Now go watch that movie "Money Pit"! Everything is aging about the same time! I am busting my ass here - this is the toughest job I ever had in my life and I am not getting paid!
My neighbors are real "stick in the muds" - on one side the neighbor try to stop the natural flow of storm water runoff and basically built a earthern damn with out old fence - after the new fence was built and Sally caused the picket fence to lean towards our property - after hiring contractors to reset the picket fence perpendicular I also had them cut approximately 4-inches off the bottom of our picket fence - our picket fence is no longer a dam. The other neighbor directs the storm water runoff towards our direction - those long tubes from the downspouts
This is the side that I have problems maintain the lawn due "excessive soil compaction" czcams.com/video/7crKQGMxCSs/video.html this was in 2018 and then one year later in 2019 the planted Sod was looking good czcams.com/video/wt81slFowd8/video.html it looks much worse today
Terrible advise. The seed won’t grow with weed killer at the same time. The seed won’t grow on top of the ground. It needs to be in the ground
Yes I was troubled by roundup and not telling what could happen to lawn if ppl use Mes. There are probably better informational sources out there. I will keep looking
It's certainly not the advice I give to most of my audience but IMO it is acceptable to do all this in the same day if you have no intention of ever doing lawn treatments more than one day per year. I've got multiple videos on this channel dedicated to the topic of uncovered seed germination; this year in fact I grew an entire lawn from uncovered seed...and as for the weed killer stopping baby grass from growing that is a risk that were taking however we already see new grass growing so although seed germination may be stunted it hasn't prevented the new grass from growing. As I said in the video I prefer to wait 10 days after week killer application to seed but best germination potential is usually after a 30 day waiting period.
Interesting comment Fiona, are you considering the ingredients in the RoundUp For Lawns product we used which didn't use glyphosate typically associated with the roundup name? Also, Mesotrione is a fairly standard lawn chem used at time of seeding. Only a handful of grass types that are not commonly seeded by casual lawn owners are severely stunted or killed by Meso. Perennial Rye, KBG, Tall fescue can all handle Mesotrione just fine at time of seeding. As for killing weeds and dropping seed on the same day see my comments I just made to ShoreTrade above. It's not the best course of action but it can still work out if you have the right expectations.
So many things wrong with this
Fair point 🤣