Enter The Gungeon Iceberg Explained
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Enter the Gungeon's deepest and darkest theories.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:10 - Background (Tiers 1 and 2)
06:49 - Tier 3
16:30 - Tier 4
29:10 - Tier 5
35:53 - Tier 6
PyramidSandNeon's Iceberg - / thought_id_contribute_...
Eli_Glick's Ammonomicon - / physical_ammonomicon_s...
Music I used (go support these artists, their music is great):
Enter The Gungeon OST (composed by Doseone):
Aimless Void Awaits - doseone.bandcamp.com/track/ai...
Black Powder Mine Time - doseone.bandcamp.com/track/bl...
Die Cubulon Die - doseone.bandcamp.com/track/di...
Boss Battle Beating - doseone.bandcamp.com/track/bo...
Inter Office Annihilation- doseone.bandcamp.com/track/in...
The Forge Fire Roar - doseone.bandcamp.com/track/fo...
Into the Breach OST (composed by Ben Prunty):
A.C.I.D - • A.C.I.D. | Into the Br...
Antiquity Row - • Antiquity Row | Into t...
Cataclysm - • Cataclysm
Old Earth - • Old Earth | Into the B...
Pinnacle Robotics - • Pinnacle Robotics | In...
Red Sands - • Red Sands | Into the B...
Reprocessing - • Reprocessing | Into th...
Rustling Hulks - • Rusting Hulks | Into t...
Seismic Activity - • Seismic Activity | Int...
The Wasteland - • The Wasteland | Into t...
Zenith - • Zenith | Into the Brea...
Footage Borrowed From:
Admiral Vic - / @admiralvic
MagicalPurpleMan - / @magicalpurpleman
Nevernamed - / @nevernamed
TheTurtleMelon - / @theturtlemelon
hey, thanks for reading all of this stuff and supporting the video. You mean a lot to me :) - Hry
The trick gun synergy with the huntsman is 100% a bloodborne reference. In the game you are a Hunter who uses trick weapons with the goal of getting more insight, the creatures above secret rooms also resemble an event where hidden enemies are revealed in the same way. I’d wager it’s more of asset reuse rather than a hint
it cant be asset reuse because the sprite used for it isnt used anywhere else, the interdimensional horror never does that specific pose on its fight, so they had to make a completely new sprite just for that, wich implies that they made a conscious decision to use the interdimensional horror for the sprite
The trick gun also synergizes with Valkyrie Blood and Eye of the Beholster as well I believe.
plus more vaguely the idea of a inter dimensional horror being seen through "insight" (seen through dimensions instead of him passing through into our real like the Marines situation) makes perfect sense with lovecraftian/bloodborne Lore.
Ahh, yes, in the gungeon exists Ammodyla (gungeon version Amygdala)
Some things I thought of while listening to this video.
1. "For us who knew this place before, the power of the gun is hollow" is almost explicitly referring to a time before the Gungeon existed, when it was just the Fortress. The Gun that can kill the past simply cannot return them to a time BEFORE the Gungeon existed. This is also why the Gunslinger can use the gun, because his past is the creation of the Gungeon, and why killing his past prevents the Gungeon from being created... and also likely why it spawns the Paradox Lich alongside the regular Lich,
2. Deaths in the Gungeon return you to the Breach because of some mystical force, but this force isn't tied to how you died. Notice how any time you run out of health in the Gungeon, something snipes your player character. This is likely what causes them to return to the Breech, and is likely the Lich's doing. The reason some aren't given this 'gift' are likely tied to their desires. The Gungeon seemingly evolves based on changes to the timeline (As killing the past unlocks new items based on said changed past), and some like Blockner simply have no more "Value" to the Gungeon, their deaths become final as the Lich has no further use for them, while conversely, those like the Resourceful Rat ARE helping the Gungeon to evolve (Giant Rat Mecha and Cheese Bullets), thus they get a pass of sorts.
3. This is a big one, the reason the Gungeoneers always find themselves back in the Breach even after killing the past is likely because the Gungeon itself exists outside of standard time, thus while their past selves can change their histories to the point they would never need to enter the Gungeon, their current selves are still trapped because that new timeline isn't this version's timeline. This is best exemplified by the sell creep, aka, Agunim, who has a specific disdain for the Bullet even before the Bullet kills his past, which implies that the Gungeon's version of Agunim comes from a time where the Bullet beat him... which hasn't happened yet from the Bullet's perspective, and because this disdain exists even before the Bullet kills his past, it implies that both timelines are continuing to exist simultaneously, the timeline in which the Bullet lost the fight, and enters the Gungeon to correct it, and the timeline in which the Bullet won the fight, and Agunim enters the Gungeon to plot his revenge.
I don't agree with #2. You notice that when people become ghosts, it's because another human/someone not from the gungeon. Check the cultists past. It explains it.
Just an interesting little detail... when you die in the Gungeon, the dials on the clockshair (terrible pun, I know) show the current console time before rewinding back to the time you started the run.
Not some massive lore or theory thing (it could be maybe, I dunno), I just think it's kinda cool.
The idea I think is that your future self who has killed the past is using the gun on this run and basically resetting it so that you never actually died, winding the clock back to where you started.
@@EliyahuDesmond Exactly.
I really love the ruby bracelet's description, because it's a reference to the original release of the Gungeon. Keys and ammo were SO MUCH RARER. So, the devs thought that players would throw there weapons a lot, to deal some extra damage. But...no, that never happened, nobody ever did that. Update after update, they made keys and ammo more common, and eventually, the updated the ruby bracelet, and wrote the new description as basically a way of saying "We thought that having less keys/ammo would be fun, but we were totally wrong. Sorry about that!" :)
Good Job. What can I say? 400 hours in this game and after 3 years I still don't know even half of it
Ikr?
150 hours and I knew everything except for a couple ones in tiers 5 and 6, and then most of the entries were just theories.
I think the reason you always get back to the gungeon after killing the past is because after you kill the past you no longer have a reason to go to the gungeon to kill their past thus creating a time paradox/loop and sending them back
The reason people get shot by the gun that can kill the past when they die is obvious to me... It is their future self using the gun on their past self to ensure that they will make it to the run where they successfully kill their past. In other words, its a paradox.
Only gungeoneers who make it themselves or are shot by someone else have this fate. That is why other dead gungeoneers are referred to as forgotten... no one saved them.
Solid work, also thanks for the mention :)
There are a few things you mentioned that seemed a little iffy to me, but it could also be that I'm just misremembering.
2:10 Where are you getting that the HM Absolution is an unmanned craft?
2:24 Laser Lily is one of her "known aliases", not confirmed to be her real name, just A name that she goes by.
6:01 Where is it implied that the gunslinger is cursed?
31:30 It's also possible that the Old King just used a different throne after he was murdered. The Lead Throne was found by the Bullet King, not made by him, meaning it existed before his reign. In fact, you can even see that the throne in the physical ammonomicon is the Lead Throne, not the Dark Throne (which is what the Old King's throne is called internally).
31:48 One thing I've learned deconstructing Gungeon is that not everything was thought through. One notable example is the continual lack of clarity as to whether Earth exists in this universe or not. The devs just didn't expect anyone to pull their lore apart on such a granular level, so you have to learn how to identify when something just doesn't add up.
37:37 The Gunslinger built the Fortress.
39:21 Kthuliber was an in-development name of Kaliber, which was all but scrubbed during development. Kthuliber was originally going to be the game's big bad lore monster, but they replaced it with a more religious take on the concept, being Kaliber.
Hey, no problem! Your videos taught me a lot about the Gungeon :D
I'll try to clarify on some the points that you mentioned.
1. I don't know if I said that HS Absolution was unmanned at 2:10. I think I was trying to say "Hegemony of Man" there. That being said, I don't think its unmanned, considering that the Ammonomicon entry for it shows (what I assume to be) the captain of the ship.
2. The Gunslinger being banished to Bullet Hell (mentioned in the Lich entry) and the shrine to the Old Gunslinger (sets curse to 9) are indirect jabs at this idea that the Gunslinger was cursed (by Kaliber). It's never directly mentioned in the game, though.
3. Yeah, I was overthinking the whole throne thing at 31:48. And I didn't notice that detail about the throne in the physical Ammonomicon, so your explanation makes a lot more sense.
4. Even though Kthuliber was mostly scrubbed, I still think it exists in the Gungeon universe. For example, in Exit the Gungeon, there is a statue of it in Flynt's shop. But otherwise, Kthuliber doesn't really serve a huge purpose.
the etg community needs more people like you. mad respect
The enter the breach music goes hard. Love the vid my friend. Earned a sub❤
Idk if Simeone know this but in the forge if you use the teleporter prototype there is a chance of entering a room with a big eye that look at you and then teleports you to the shop
Thank you for visiting me.
I’m pretty sure the reason people full die in the gungen instead of reviving
Is because they never reached the gun that can kill the past
The playable characters reach the gun and they are pretty much immortal within the gungen
It’s like the time travel thing where you change something in the past that was always changed (a man trying to save someone from a car crash, but they end up causing the car crash that killed them)
they reached the gun so they can kill their past
including the past times they’ve died in a gun fight, trying to get to the gun
Very interesting video! Got a feeling this will get recommended to a lot of people! Keep the great work :)
Now THAT is the specific type of content I wanna see
Didn’t think there was so much background lore in this game. Good job making this video 🔥
Good job finding all this Enter the Gungeon lore, it was a very well made video and I really enjoyed watching it.
Keep up the good work!
What an absolute banger of a video, great job man this is incredible
Criminally underated channel, found your channel through this, *chefs kiss* excellent video, I hope the turnout on your Gungeon videos turn out well, & if so, I hope to see an Exit The Gungeon iceberg in the near future, cause there is *nuthing* for lore stuff of that game
Thanks for watching! And yeah, I've been looking into Exit the Gungeon, I might just make an iceberg on it :)
kinda new to the game and love seeing how much depth there is, thanks for all the explanation!
I'm glad you enjoyed!
this is a really well made video i have a feeling it will blow up
Very good video bro, I enjoyed a lot all this lore
This is really well
made !
This was truthfully the most entertaining and captivating video I have ever watched. It has inspired me to do a lore dive on the game and release it on CZcams. This is truthfully and genuinely the best video I have ever seen. I’m dead serious I’ve never been so glued to a video before. I watched it over and over again it was that good.
nice video, you explained it really great
I never thought I'd see someone compare Kali to Doom Guy, but the longer I think about that, the more sense it makes.
nice video! good to see more videos of one of my favorite game :DD
its interesting that the only connections youve drawn between interdimensional horror and gungeon are the magic, I think that the horror is from the dimension that the ammomancers are summoning their attacks from
incredible, thank you for this.
I think Kthuliber IS Kaliber. Her actual appearance. If she only ever appeared to cultists in visions then they would need to carve statues from memory. In the twitter gif, look at the "spokes" on the wings. Looks an awful lot like six arms....
What surprises me the most about this game is the amount of warhammer references
This guy deserves more views
Great vid bro.😺
This is the most fun and interesting video that I’ve seen in 13 years. I’ve never been so locked into a code, it was very entertaining.
*Locked into a video
my boy using itb music
good choice ❤
I don't know if you mentioned it later but you do need to kill all the pasts to progress the game by unlocking the finished gun
you just need to unlock all the items in the ammonomicon
The "28 Stab Wounds" was excellent, thank you.
Such a great vid
Great video
Nice work
35:20 another little hint that maybe isn't that important is the scar it has on it's front, just like the lich and other enemies have, and even the gungeon itself on the skull
The Into The Breach music is throwing the hell out of me given that these are my top two games!!
thanks for the fun listen!
I have 500 hours in this game, and I completed 100% of the game. WHAT THE FUCK IS AN EYE ROOM?!?!??!?!?!
Relatable, still so much I don't know 😭
Teleporter prototype has a small chance of sending you to the said room
What about that goblin with helmet? She said that she tried to escape but she cant and what about gatlings gull which ammonicon entry said that it changed after great bullet fall
21:30 The connection between three is most likely being "banished" to where they originally came from, the Mine Flayer and other killithid being banished to their unknown psychic dimension, Kaliber's avatar being removed from the gungeon's plane of existence.
Door lord, I don't know. I'll have to check other mimics animations; but the mimic gun does have a strange icon on the death screen
I actually like to think that tge reason the lich flips out upon us aiming the gun at him is less indicitave of him being about to die but more him being fully aware that doing so would cause a conplete time crash
I don't know why I'm watching a 45 minute video about a game I have never and likely will never play.. but I am.
Thank you man.
Thank you for this video! It taught me a lot about this game despite my 3 years of playing on and off. I mean I still can't beat Dragun but whateverrr!
Nice :3
I always thought that gungeoners not killing the past was crucial for gunslinger to become the lich thus giving the paradox. Pilot needs to left his friend (awfully similar to bird boss), hunter and rebel need to be afk, and the cosmical horror needs to live.
A gun that can "kill the past"? ...i had no idea that Enter the Gungeon was a prequel to The Silver Case... Which also makes it part of the Shadows of the Damned, Killer 7, Killer is Dead and No More Heroes's world... boy, that's super crazy!
I knew nothing about Enter the Gungeon's lore before I clicked on this video. Now, I'm hooked.
Solid video
5:58 The gunslinger was banished to bullet hell for making the gun that can kill the past, which attracted the attention of Kaliber
I'm pretty positive that the interdimentional horror and the marine is a direct refrance to doom
Dope video
The gun that can kill the past looks like it was designed for killing the user.
Holy its into the breach music at the intro
into the breach and ftl is so good, especially their music too
I LOVE THIS
I never put together you fight agunim twice I just assumed it was a revolver ocelot reference only. Nice, learning shit about a game I've played a million hours of
I'm pretty sure the "Kthuliber" sprite gif is more directly related to the Elder Things of Lovecraft's mythos, not Cthulhu.
Isn’t it’s name based on an alternate spelling of Cthulhu?
damn ive never played enter the dungeon but this was a cool video
Good choice on the music its from into the breach I think
random side note: iron maidens dont exist in real life, they were made up by some random archeologists
Someone has watched Sam O' Nella
Amazing job on this, although I do feel as if a couple of the theories showed here miss some critical information or just fall short in general. I am proud to say that I have 250 hours in this game, and knew 98% of this list!
10:40 most accurate description of R.R. I’ve ever heard
nice video
About Bullet's past. He didnt failed. He just chose not to change anything, but still i can't understand why he starts killing other bullets.
About P̡̨̠̳̓̽͐͞a͓̯̐́r̨͓͖͐̐́͑͟ȧ̹d̞̣̮̻̙̽̽͆̚͞o̠̞͛̚x͇̑. You don't go to your past, you are going to bullethell (also blacksmither doesn't give u a bullet that can kill past)
cool video for a really cool game!
It could be possible Kthuliber and Kalibur are rival forces. The Eye could be an avatar or conduit of Kthuliber, reaching through the Yellow Chamber to take sacrifices.
We also know gunslinger is the same guy the blacksmith is talking of and the lich because he uses the magical holster and he has the bullet eyes just like Lich
“Where others walked with a staff, he strode with a strap” is straight heat, man.
I Wish the 𝗡𝗶𝗻𝗷𝗮 and the 𝗖𝗼𝘀𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘂𝘁 would appear in the farewell to arms update (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ)
hey! i'd totally recommend checking out EXIT the gungeon! its set after enter, and is canon, and also adds tons more lore, like who the high priest used to be and where the killithids and mine flayer come from!
oh also, the drunkard has a LOT to say when you talk to him enough through runs in exit
From what i understood the Gungeoneers who managed to shot the bullet than can kill thr past they shot every single one of them including they past selves and destroying their past mistakes (failing to reach the Gun/Changing their pasts) but this would just create a Paradox
To wich the game isnt unfamiliar
yep agreed. This is also explains why nobody seems to die...
Personally, I think the reason some people return to the Breach when they die and some don't is that some gungeoneers aren't destined to ever use the Gun That Kills The Past.
I feel like you should have added the fact that the Treadnaught's tank has a face
31:46 the old king lost his throne, so he had to find a new one, that’s coherent with why in the bullets past the throne is the same, could be the old or the new, we can’t know
Sorry if I spelled something wrong, I’m not mother language
Sorry if I spelled something wrong, English it’s not my native language
Thank god that this game is not truly dead
Damn, I knew there was lore; but I didn't know there was THIS much lore
What i dont really get is how Canon can die after fighting the Lich, after you literally kill him in the bullets past
i actually like the lore and the story of the ETG
15:22 what gun is that?
makeshift cannon
on that last theory, how come you get shot back to the breach when killed by gun cultists then? shouldn't you become a ghost instead?
That's a good point. Maybe since the Gun Cultists live among the Gundead, they're basically a part of the Gungeon now?
why is my man playing into the breach music in a gungeon video
42:07 How do you die with that many blanks on you?
42:30 I think he's talking to the player
Wait, so if a gungoneer kills another gungoneer they die and become ghosts.... what about the rat then? is he not considered a gungoneer, or was he absorbed by the gungeon? ................
damn i thought this was just the funny shoot shoot game, i did not know that there was so much lore to all this
Even if the rat wanted to change his past, there is nothing he could do, because, well, there is no enemy to fight, just a lack of food on the space ship, so yeah.
"Revolvations" who ever made this game is a fcking genius 🤣
oh, yeah. I looked, and I found it
actually the robot's past you got it kind of wrong the robot always tries to break protocol and not kill the humans but never can causing the whole "low power mode" thing to happen over and over again no matter how many times he goes to the past, only to be found by the Gungeoneers, fixed and he goes all over again to try but since he doesn't have the proper code to break protocol he is pretty much trapped in a never ending time loop of killing humans and wanting to rectify the mistake but always failing due to poor code
Damn, now I want to play as the rat to kill his past.
"he's just a fucking asshole" is gold.
AGUNIM IS THE WIZARD *AND* THE HELICOPTER GUY??????????????
unimportant side note: the high priest goes by he/him pronouns, considering that the low priest from exit the gungeon is the past version of the high priest from before he became the avatar of kaliber (along with the games using "priest' and not "priestess")
What about the Wall monger
I'm trying to tell anyone I am able to about a game called Roller Drome. It's Tony Hawk meets an arena shooter where you get ammo back by doing tricks...........UH👏MAZE👏ZING my friend. Thanks for the iceberg I really enjoy things like this, much appreciated.
6 months too late to say that the kthuliber gif is more likelly based on the creatures from In The Mountains of Madness than Cthulhu itself