Hybrids occur in nature so I'm on board and love seeing them. I understand the purist ethic as well, but nature and geography can overlap compatible species. They're all beautiful.
Show me a chahoua x crested hybrid in the wild and I will shut up. Duento deforestation and imported rats and ants we might at some point see crested geckos vanish in the wild. But even if not, I dont want to end up with only hybrids in captivity and this is what is going to happen. People breed back hybrids to cresteds, not labeling the offspring correctly and we will end up with no pure animals anymore. Just like it happened with other species before. If he breeds the hybrids only for himself.... well ok, but I dont believe he does.
Could Frazil perhaps be a chimera with the bicolor eyes and how his coloration just stops so perfectly at that point on his head? Could explain why he presents so many different genes visually.
Frazil is a beauty. The Chahoua/Crested hybrids are stunning especially the Red tiger patterned one!!!. The only concern I would have with hybridisation is health and care issues that might arise. Also would all the pure Crested and Chahoua Gecko genetic lines be lost in favour of the hybrids if they became popular.
Also, like a mule, I believe the crested/chahoua hybrid is also infertile, so therefore they themselves can not produce more, so with that crested geckos and chahoas will be pure still, and the only hybrids came from pure lines.
@all replies Just to be clear, I am not against hybrids, in fact I would love to have one. I just responded to Dav's question at the end "What do you think of Hybrids and what are your concerns". I think they look amazing and if the "pure" lines remain then that is good for both species if we need to repopulate their natural habitat. 🤘 Rattle on 🤘
Those geckos are insane! He seems like a very chill positive person I bet you had a blast looking at his beautiful wee ones and hanging out. Thank you ever so much for sharing and best wishes always.
*FUN FACT: i helped name Frazil back in the day! Tony & i were at a gas station picking up drinks, when he pointed out the Frazil slushie drinks 🤷🏻♀️ i had NEVER heard about it until then. So we got one & i liked it. At some point he mentioned still not having a name for his "unique crested baby" so i suggested FRAZIL ☺️ The rest is History* 🦎
yeah thats the problem. I remember having this debate with Tony before a few years ago, and he said he would do that, but I find it hard to believe he doesn't sell hybrids considering the many pairs he has going. And once out of your hand you have no control what so ever anymore. 👎
@@mistybarelyanartist6118 thats what line breeding means. Reptiles lack the DNA that would cause birth defects so alot of breeders will breed parents with kids and siblings together to keep a pure color morph or to make it stand out more.
@@natedog2022 yeah I asked my breeder about it after this video, I own two cresties, one of which I received from them. It just kinda shocked me because I remembered taking basic biology and seeing this was really alarming. Even though I know what it is now it still kinda feels wrong, because your still knowingly putting possible living animals in that situation that could result in them being in pain or having neurological issues. Idk I guess that’s why it feels wrong.. even tho the chances are lower than they are with mammals, there still is that chance, and to risk an animals life/ wellbeing for it to look pretty.. but then I came to the realization that that’s basically how we got all the different morphs and breeds at some point, and yeah.. it was a lot and i still don’t quite know how to take it. 😂😂
Hi Dav I think that Frazil is beautiful, and his offspring have different colors, and patterns. I think that is ok to have hybrids, as long as they don't have genetic problems. His collection is so awesome, and he loves them, and takes good care of them. Thanks for sharing your visit. Cindy
I've seen some amazing reptiles in my lifetime, and have met some pretty freaking awesome people too! I feel double blessed to of been able to actually hold Frazil in REAL LIFE! And to have known Tony! He is one of the kindest and most loving people I've known. He cares more about his reptiles... well more then anything in the world! He cares for them daily! It's more of a lifestyle to him now then a hobby. I am so proud to see my brother BLOW UP LIKE THIS! But with all success comes negativity and haters. But for all the nay sayers out there and doubters this one is for yall! TONY'S WORLD FAMOUS GECKOS!!! We Here To Stay Baby! Thank you Tony for bringing us new creations and pushing the innovation within the reptile community. You are the F**** man Bro! And your reptiles are one of a kind every single one of them! And believe me when I say that these Reptiles are happier living with Tony then in the Wild... YOU CAN SEE IT ON THEIR SMILING FACES! 🐸🦎🐸🦎 If you people only knew the work this man has put in everyday of his life! And it shows with his creations! You got this one Big Bro! I Love You! 💚💚💚💚 BIG SHOUT OUT!! To Dave for doing an expo on Tony's World Famous Geckos! Hope you guys had a blast fishing! 🐟 🎣 can't wait to see that video next! YOU ARE THE MAN KEEP BRINGING US GREAT CONTENT! YOU GUYS ROCK! 🤘🦎💚 #TONYSWORLDFAMOUSGECKOS #FRAZIL #DAVEKAUFMANSHOW
WOW, Frazil is incredible!! I love the marking, how unique. I'm getting three more cresties tomorrow, one is a red dalmatian and I can't wait to see it in person!! Great vlog Dav, your #1 assistant approves!! 😉💕💞
The fourth baby he showed his belly ..it looked like u could either say at end on the right it looks like Jack skeletons 💀 face the two big eyes the little nose and the long straight mouth that's awesome then on the left side it looks like a crocodile 🐊 with its mouth wide open he has the prettiest ones I've ever seen in my life they are truly stunning little reptiles for sure wow
Hi Dav love the crested geckos they are beautiful. I’m not a fan of hybrids in any reptile. I think don’t play with what nature has done. Separate species, keep separate. Just a personal opinion definitely don’t think bad of people who do hybrids. Cheers from down under mate 🦘🦘🦎
Wow. And the fishing plug on lake Mead!? Wow. Do a fishing trip summer or ice on Eel pout. They are a fresh water Cod and so misunderstood!! Good eats! Did you cook up some those fish?! You born yesterday? LOL Beautiful collection! Rattle ON! And always MORE COW BELL!!!
That morph or gene is absolutely insane looking! Need some of his genes/offspring in your collection! I wonder what you'd get if you bred him to a Deadpool !?!
One of Pangeas facilities is two min from my house I got my first crested geckos from Pangea back when he’d meet ya in a random parking lot off college ave
Omg this makes me want to get some myself !!!! They're all so friendly and seem easy to take care of. They're all beautiful, if you asked me I couldn't pick a favorite, cause they're all absolutely stunning. I love bearded dragons, but they're a bit more costly than one or 2 of these. Do they not need UBV and other special lighting? Doesn't seem like they do and seems like they need humidity more than those lights and I live in a very humid area already. I love these ❤
It's a shame about Frazil's tail, would've been cool to see those stripes run all the way out. Super amazing creature. Son of Frazil 3: Another son of Frazil, was stunning too
Its reminds me of the cow retic gene, they are so beautiful, I love crested geckos! If the hybrid makes a healthy, reasonable animal then I am for it! Adds knew blood and genetics to the pool so you don't have inbreeding harmful mutations!
Whilst I love the science behind hybrids, especially with amphibians and hybridogensis, there is is a difference between natural occurring and hobby influenced. When you look at hybridogensis, species are capable and designed to delete, drop or manipulate DNA. t The gametes combine and interact in particular ways that do not damage animal or species. In comparison, hobby produced doesn't have the consistency and has issues that naturally would be unlikely. While the potential for hybridisation is there in the wild, nature doesn't usually cross unless there is habitat or very distinct reason such as species viability or population ratios. So basically While I like them, the way it works in this particular combination suggests nature is not very happy lol. So no from me, but very interesting!
Amazing. I love their little feets so stinkin cuteeee. I dont mind hybrids as ling as we are understanding all that goes on with them like life expectancy.. sterile etc.
I'm neutral on hybrids. I'm not for or against hybrids. As long as the hybrids grow without having any issues, I think they are fine. In fact, I've heard that sometimes hybridization increases vigor, makes it less likely to have problems than the purebred. And I'm sure that there will still be plenty of purebreds out there for those who only want purebreds.
I remember when I was a kid the only lizards I knew about was iguanas, chameleons, and bearded dragons. 🤣 gosh crested geckos are so gorgeous!!!
great pets too!!
Frazil is like patient zero a king of the cresties
Hybrids occur in nature so I'm on board and love seeing them. I understand the purist ethic as well, but nature and geography can overlap compatible species. They're all beautiful.
Shouldn't really matter if it occurs in nature anyway because we aren't breeding them to be released into the wild. They are pets
@@PunchingCacti Truth.
Show me a chahoua x crested hybrid in the wild and I will shut up.
Duento deforestation and imported rats and ants we might at some point see crested geckos vanish in the wild. But even if not, I dont want to end up with only hybrids in captivity and this is what is going to happen. People breed back hybrids to cresteds, not labeling the offspring correctly and we will end up with no pure animals anymore. Just like it happened with other species before.
If he breeds the hybrids only for himself.... well ok, but I dont believe he does.
@@BillGates-hx3be he's really not, you won't have the real true species if they're all descendants from hybridization
Could Frazil perhaps be a chimera with the bicolor eyes and how his coloration just stops so perfectly at that point on his head? Could explain why he presents so many different genes visually.
Mr Tony Gross! Not only the best gecko breeder IMO but also a great, kind hearted person! A good friend of mine
"So '98 what does that make that; 23 years?" Oof felt that 😅
Daaaaaamn, Im ancient
Frazil is a beauty. The Chahoua/Crested hybrids are stunning especially the Red tiger patterned one!!!. The only concern I would have with hybridisation is health and care issues that might arise. Also would all the pure Crested and Chahoua Gecko genetic lines be lost in favour of the hybrids if they became popular.
Mules are popular but we still have plenty of purebred donkeys and horses!
@@sakasucircus what a great comparison, chewies get larger than a regular crested so they’re not perfect for everyone.
Also, like a mule, I believe the crested/chahoua hybrid is also infertile, so therefore they themselves can not produce more, so with that crested geckos and chahoas will be pure still, and the only hybrids came from pure lines.
@@jeffleverett4975 I couldn't remember if they were sterile or not haha
@all replies Just to be clear, I am not against hybrids, in fact I would love to have one. I just responded to Dav's question at the end "What do you think of Hybrids and what are your concerns". I think they look amazing and if the "pure" lines remain then that is good for both species if we need to repopulate their natural habitat. 🤘 Rattle on 🤘
Those geckos are insane! He seems like a very chill positive person I bet you had a blast looking at his beautiful wee ones and hanging out. Thank you ever so much for sharing and best wishes always.
Holy heck, Frazil is a factory for uniqueness.
*FUN FACT: i helped name Frazil back in the day! Tony & i were at a gas station picking up drinks, when he pointed out the Frazil slushie drinks 🤷🏻♀️ i had NEVER heard about it until then. So we got one & i liked it. At some point he mentioned still not having a name for his "unique crested baby" so i suggested FRAZIL ☺️ The rest is History* 🦎
As long as u keep track of hybrids and dont breed em back into the originals, I'm good with it
yeah thats the problem. I remember having this debate with Tony before a few years ago, and he said he would do that, but I find it hard to believe he doesn't sell hybrids considering the many pairs he has going. And once out of your hand you have no control what so ever anymore. 👎
@@ciliatus yeah and did no one else notice this but me? Like no one is talking about it 4:03
@@ciliatus 4:16
@@mistybarelyanartist6118 thats what line breeding means. Reptiles lack the DNA that would cause birth defects so alot of breeders will breed parents with kids and siblings together to keep a pure color morph or to make it stand out more.
@@natedog2022 yeah I asked my breeder about it after this video, I own two cresties, one of which I received from them. It just kinda shocked me because I remembered taking basic biology and seeing this was really alarming. Even though I know what it is now it still kinda feels wrong, because your still knowingly putting possible living animals in that situation that could result in them being in pain or having neurological issues. Idk I guess that’s why it feels wrong.. even tho the chances are lower than they are with mammals, there still is that chance, and to risk an animals life/ wellbeing for it to look pretty.. but then I came to the realization that that’s basically how we got all the different morphs and breeds at some point, and yeah.. it was a lot and i still don’t quite know how to take it. 😂😂
Is he stoned or is he just like that ? 😂😂
I was thinking the same
His one handsome cresty. Thank you for showing it Dāv. Hello to you Dāv and to frazil’s Dad
Hi Dav I think that Frazil is beautiful, and his offspring have different colors, and patterns. I think that is ok to have hybrids, as long as they don't have genetic problems. His collection is so awesome, and he loves them, and takes good care of them. Thanks for sharing your visit. Cindy
I've seen some amazing reptiles in my lifetime, and have met some pretty freaking awesome people too! I feel double blessed to of been able to actually hold Frazil in REAL LIFE! And to have known Tony! He is one of the kindest and most loving people I've known. He cares more about his reptiles... well more then anything in the world! He cares for them daily! It's more of a lifestyle to him now then a hobby. I am so proud to see my brother BLOW UP LIKE THIS! But with all success comes negativity and haters. But for all the nay sayers out there and doubters this one is for yall! TONY'S WORLD FAMOUS GECKOS!!! We Here To Stay Baby! Thank you Tony for bringing us new creations and pushing the innovation within the reptile community. You are the F**** man Bro! And your reptiles are one of a kind every single one of them! And believe me when I say that these Reptiles are happier living with Tony then in the Wild... YOU CAN SEE IT ON THEIR SMILING FACES! 🐸🦎🐸🦎 If you people only knew the work this man has put in everyday of his life! And it shows with his creations! You got this one Big Bro! I Love You! 💚💚💚💚
BIG SHOUT OUT!! To Dave for doing an expo on Tony's World Famous Geckos! Hope you guys had a blast fishing! 🐟 🎣 can't wait to see that video next! YOU ARE THE MAN KEEP BRINGING US GREAT CONTENT! YOU GUYS ROCK! 🤘🦎💚
#TONYSWORLDFAMOUSGECKOS
#FRAZIL
#DAVEKAUFMANSHOW
Wowza! He is so neat and gorgeous. Makes me think of a graffitied city building. Super rad! ❤️🔥
Wow I think the hybrids are beautiful 😍 ❤
WOW, Frazil is incredible!! I love the marking, how unique. I'm getting three more cresties tomorrow, one is a red dalmatian and I can't wait to see it in person!! Great vlog Dav, your #1 assistant approves!! 😉💕💞
Wow that red one was amazing, I would've loved to see Mustard.
I want to see mustard too! Bring him out next!
Frazil is amazing 🤯🤯😍😍😍🥰 love how white his head is🥰😍 Absolutely stunning 🔥🔥🔥🦎🔥🔥🔥
I got to meet Frazil Gecko a few years ago. The Gecko has been in two of my Videos! A very beautiful & unique Gecko!
Dav, while you were in Vegas you should have done a "Are we keeping Gamblers correctly" video!
The little red tiger is so cute
The fourth baby he showed his belly ..it looked like u could either say at end on the right it looks like Jack skeletons 💀 face the two big eyes the little nose and the long straight mouth that's awesome then on the left side it looks like a crocodile 🐊 with its mouth wide open he has the prettiest ones I've ever seen in my life they are truly stunning little reptiles for sure wow
Dude Frazil and his babies are amazing!!!
Tony looks a bit nervous being on camera :D , loving seeing some different hybrid colours as most that get posted are tiger/halloween type colours.
Frazil seems like a cool little dude.
I kind of wanted to meet Mustard his first ever gecko that’s over 20 years old,
Dave's fishing adventures? Im sold
We always appreciate a good gecko video
Hi Dav love the crested geckos they are beautiful. I’m not a fan of hybrids in any reptile. I think don’t play with what nature has done. Separate species, keep separate. Just a personal opinion definitely don’t think bad of people who do hybrids. Cheers from down under mate 🦘🦘🦎
Extreme Harlequin trj colors aren't what "nature has done" either
@@jaykrizzle there are harlequins in the wild. Also with line breeding you still dont change the species of an animal.
Frazzle is awesome.
Wow! What amazing Gecko's to see!!!!
Wow. And the fishing plug on lake Mead!? Wow. Do a fishing trip summer or ice on Eel pout. They are a fresh water Cod and so misunderstood!! Good eats! Did you cook up some those fish?! You born yesterday? LOL Beautiful collection! Rattle ON! And always MORE COW BELL!!!
My bucket list is growing by the second with this guy! I want the red chahua crested hybrid
Thats crazy, you're in Vegas, I live here. We all know Tony geckos!!
that gecko is in incredible!
My favorite lizards are crested geckos green iguanas and I would say alligator but I'm not crazy
Alligators aren't lizards, but you can still say they're a favorite without being crazy
Wow a great and unique collection
That morph or gene is absolutely insane looking! Need some of his genes/offspring in your collection! I wonder what you'd get if you bred him to a Deadpool !?!
One of Pangeas facilities is two min from my house I got my first crested geckos from Pangea back when he’d meet ya in a random parking lot off college ave
Those are some stunning geckos!
Really liked this video
Hybrid's do look stunning 👍
Im going to the Hamburg, PA expo on June 12th and I really hoped you would come to it I really want to meet you :(
I'm sooo excited to pick up a crested gecko from Tinley (Schaumburg) in a couple weeks!!
Very cool but I feel bad seeing so many older geckos living in totes. Hope he is able to find good homes for all of them.
Wow, beautiful geckos!!! And I thought my Dalmatian was pretty!!!
Wow awesome video ❤️
sympatric speciation should be focused on more ❤️ love the hybrid look
Hybrid??? Yeah, I want that dude crawling up his arm!!!! ❤
Tony Gross has insane geckos!
That guy off the perc 💊
Love love love frazil
Wow this is the most awesome gene in the hobby
I think hybrids are great, as long as they are respectfully and responsibly bred. Also they should be labeled what they're mixed with.
He could call it the Nuclear gene!!!!
Hahaha that would be cool!
My favorite lizards are crested geckos, gargoyle geckos and leachies (: But i also love beardies, leopard geckos and iguanas.. so i’ll just say all😂
Omg this makes me want to get some myself !!!!
They're all so friendly and seem easy to take care of.
They're all beautiful, if you asked me I couldn't pick a favorite, cause they're all absolutely stunning.
I love bearded dragons, but they're a bit more costly than one or 2 of these.
Do they not need UBV and other special lighting?
Doesn't seem like they do and seems like they need humidity more than those lights and I live in a very humid area already.
I love these ❤
Got the notification and clicked on it right away 😁
Yo I really want to find this guy and buy one of frazzles baby’s 😁🦎
Those are some phenomenal geckos
#RattleOn
The hybrids are cool , I think for personal keeping.
I ADORE crested geckos and they are the best pet lizard! :)
Frazzle is beautiful!!! I am glad mine all have their tails still...I am not a frog butt fan.
I love hybrids i feels like if we didn’t make this hybrid as soon as we dude they would of probably become a thing in the wild
Frazil is amazing! Although I'm biased since I'm such a sucker for spots! As for the hybridization? I'm on the fence about that, sorry.
My late cresties name was drazil, lizard backwards haha
It's a shame about Frazil's tail, would've been cool to see those stripes run all the way out. Super amazing creature.
Son of Frazil 3: Another son of Frazil, was stunning too
I would like to buy one
I'm all for hybrids.. mainly with snakes. The problem with the chewy/cresty mix is the outcome is not as pretty as either of the 2.
Holy shit.. that's crazy. Never seen anything come close to this..
would the hybrid regrow it's tail?
I was wondering about that as well.
He never explained how the white got so spread out too, from the Facebook page to when he was holding him. They look like 2 different cresties lol
Are the hybrids fertile?
So is frazel a hybrid or just a funky morph
Like his sandals f- off lmao
He wears them with his 🌶️ &\or 🌮 socks 🤣
How did he start breedering crested geckos if they where thought to be Extinct intell 2007
And they say dogs resemble their owners...certainly a unique couple those two are
The legend of herp culture....
omg frazel is so cute do sell them
As long as the animal is healthy then each to his own. 🤘
I want a hybrid wat!!
wow what is that?! it's so unique!! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ
Its reminds me of the cow retic gene, they are so beautiful, I love crested geckos! If the hybrid makes a healthy, reasonable animal then I am for it! Adds knew blood and genetics to the pool so you don't have inbreeding harmful mutations!
The Crested Gecko named Patient Zero is also quite unique.
Whilst I love the science behind hybrids, especially with amphibians and hybridogensis, there is is a difference between natural occurring and hobby influenced.
When you look at hybridogensis, species are capable and designed to delete, drop or manipulate DNA. t
The gametes combine and interact in particular ways that do not damage animal or species. In comparison, hobby produced doesn't have the consistency and has issues that naturally would be unlikely. While the potential for hybridisation is there in the wild, nature doesn't usually cross unless there is habitat or very distinct reason such as species viability or population ratios.
So basically While I like them, the way it works in this particular combination suggests nature is not very happy lol. So no from me, but very interesting!
Amazing. I love their little feets so stinkin cuteeee. I dont mind hybrids as ling as we are understanding all that goes on with them like life expectancy.. sterile etc.
Hyrbids are Badass I hope to get one from Tony Soon I have always liked the idea of crossing a crestie and a chewie!!
Can they re-grow their tail ??
WHAT IS HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ITS NOT IN THE DESCRIPTION I CLICKED ON ALL THE LINKS
You didn't link Tony tho....
I can't believe mustard is 23 holy crap
Kinda reminds me of IMG
I'm neutral on hybrids. I'm not for or against hybrids. As long as the hybrids grow without having any issues, I think they are fine. In fact, I've heard that sometimes hybridization increases vigor, makes it less likely to have problems than the purebred. And I'm sure that there will still be plenty of purebreds out there for those who only want purebreds.
Hi
What did he mean by... his eye is going phantom??
How do we get a frazil baby!?
Tony has been holding on to majority of them. For now
I wonder if those baby’s turned out like the dad
Frazil is so beautiful 😍, just wished that he didn't drop his tail.
Did he say that he paired his daughters with him?