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Alf garnet, the man who had a "Learned opinion" on absolutely everything without knowing anything he played it brilliantly.
The start of the story is Alf - the working class Tory.
You MUST watch the follow up series to this called In Sickness And In Health, which was made in the 1980s when society was changing fast. The acting is superb and the dialogue very well written. Hilarious!
Its funny seeing your reactions. I am an Australian with English relatives. So we got all these old shows here as I was growing up (plus alot of the US stuff). Of course you don't get all the social context but Alf Garnett in Till death do us part is a very funny character, but not just in a light hearted belly laugh way. He is a working man, but he is a tory, and loves the monarchy, where as his daughter and the out of work young guy (the son in law) is a lefty. So there are conflicts in the household . Alf is a contradiction, staunchly pro the aristocracy and yet such people probably would not give him the time of day. The class system really was a strong element even in this time. So Alf is also a sad character because the world is changing and he is so ill equipped to deal with these changes. (as the working class where doing better and so the class structure was breaking down). So while a gritty comedy it is a interesting parody,, I guess being so supportive of the upper class, who really effectively are happy to enjoy their privilege and keep less educated and working class people "in their place". Alf is also quite racist. Archie Bunker was the character in the USA version (I seem to recall) who borrowed Alf's peculiar stance on the world. English character actors do such a good job of bringing some real humanity to their roles.. this helps with the pathos of Alfs fundamental "out of his depth" response to the changes in Society at that time. So while he is annoyng ignorant semi racist we can still feel compassion.
It is actually, "you can't see the woods for the trees" meaning you can't see the big picture due to all the details getting in the way or concentrating too much on one aspect of a problem...
It’s can’t see the wood for the trees, not woods actually....
Pseudo -ism in this idiom it’s “woods” as if we say wood then it’s referring to the actual material not the place, don’t worry it’s a very common mistake to make even though we’re using two plurals (which would normally be incorrect, but as it’s an idiom - or saying - it’s permissible)
@@joe1096 being english myself and loving the many ways you can use and abuse the english language, both wood and woods (both are a large area of trees) are correct and can be used, wood can be in reference to a specific named woods i:e shooters hill wood or woods, but also wood as in a piece of wood can be used as it would be hard to see a specific piece of wood amongst the trees. similar to you cant see the forest for (because of) the trees as in you cant see the forest(or wood) as the first lot of trees block your view of the forest as a whole. this may not be obvious to a non native or perhaps to some younger english people themselves.
Watch the 1972 Christmas episode, no way in a million years will that ever be shown on mainstream TV again, a typical UK 70s family Christmas 🤣🤣🤣
My favourite episode
Happily, I have it all on DVD - copied from video.
piggion fancer was my fave lol alfs rant about slavery was the rudest thing ive ever heard lol
This series is repeated on That's TV on Channel 7 on freeview alongside other old stuff, even in the 70's his views were controversial and usually proven wrong, he supported the Tories but hated a woman being in charge.
The BBC sold the rights of this for a US version to be made, you are correct in saying it became "All in the family". Several other BBC programmes have also been made as US versions.
"Till death do us part" would never get aired today, it was controversial back then and accused of being racist due to opinions voiced by the main character (Alf Garnett) which were used to show just how ridiculous his bigoted opinions were.
David Race they sold man about the house I’m sure the American version was called threes company
@@amandalewis3898 Shouldn't that be three's company?
And interestingly, re the accusation that it was racist (due to opinions voiced by the main character -Alf Garnett..... both Alf Garnett and the scriptwriter Johnny Speight were Jewish, and certainly not racist themselves -check them out. It's a parody -a message carried therein.
Mick Penning ?
Mick Penning oh I spotted the mistake Pmsl three’s company 🤣
You should try watching some of the earlier episodes with his wife ! Played by dandy Nicols ! Or even the full length movies they made ! The young guy Michael is his son in law married to his daughter ! This is easily one of the top 10 greatest British comedy’s ever ! The early black & white ones from the 60s are the best ! Trust me watch a full episode it’s hilarious !
one foot in the grave is probably the funniest uk sitcom with middle age/elderly characters
@David David The reminiscing one is the best.
How about "Waiting for God"?
And the last one is really deep. Been there done that.
@William Stewart - One foot in the Grave is quite dark comedy & you have to watch it closely as often things that happen in the background suddenly became important to the story..
Only fools n horses. Del boy albert n granddad aint exactly young
You would be better off watching an older episode with Dandy Nichols (RIP) who played his wife. She was an essential character in my opinion.
This was from that era, Else just wasn't in it as she was in Australia, as was discussed at the bar.
@@halloweenjack8655 We're talking the orignal episodes, when Dandy Nichols was still a force of nature... these are much later.
I always thought that Dandy Nichols must have been in poor health by this series, hence her "visit to Australia". I think that Alfie Bass and Patricia Hayes brought a much-needed breath of fresh air to the programme. Series 5 was very good, but I agree that Else was a huge miss.
Couldn't agree more. TDDUSP was always good but it's best days were when Dandy was in it.
I think they watch what this can find on CZcams.
You need to watch some of the earlier programs. His wife, played by Dandy Nichols, has all the best put downs for Alf's tirades. "three day week" is one of the best. PS Una Stubbs plays his daughter and Tony Booth ( father of Cherry Booth ) plays the son in law---- "scouse git".
@@CrankCase08 The book on the making of the series, entitled "A Family At War", says it wasn't due to pressure being applied to the writer (that came earlier in the show's run, which Speight gleefully resisted with wilful abandon), but it was due to Speight's increasing disinterest with mainstream politics and simply beginning to run out of ideas.
As for "Three Day Week", I don't think that would be a good idea for Americans to watch, or anyone who wasn't living in Britain in 1972-74 as it relies on a good knowledge of what was happening and what industrial relations in Britain were like at the time. While Americans would be familiar with the OPEC oil crisis, which was a contributory factor to the background of the three-day weeks from 72 to 74, the other issues causing it probably wouldn't be.
However, as the ugly issue of racial prejudice never seems to go away, one based around race (like "The Blood Donor" or "Intolerance") are more relatable while still containing the raw fizzing energy that the series had in its heyday.
And don't forget that Una went on to be Mrs Hudson in the Butternut Cabbagepatch version of Sherlock
Poor example. Need his wife and son in law.
Would love to see a reaction to Steptoe and Son. The kitchen sink clip is one of the best.
Did you know that the blonde young man was Tony Blair's father in law?
rosalind russell yep 👍
Yes and Dandy who played Alf's wife was almost 20 year older than him & Una Stubbs, Rita was only 11 years younger than Alf..
- and he married Pat Phoenix (AKA The legendary Elsie Tanner).
Warren Mitchell won rave reviews and an award for his portrayal of Willy Loman in Arthur Miller’s famous play ‘Death of a Salesman’ on the London stage
Did you know Alf’s gay Caribbean house keeper is the chief from Chicago Fire.
Best 70's sitcom for me was "Porridge" with Ronnie Barker. Check some of their episodes out. Full of real characters and fantastically written
my fave was what ever happend to the lickly lads
You guys made the correct connection to the U.S version being Archie Bunker and all in the Family...how ever I don't.think it will rank alongside TDDUP as being so controversial especially the earlier shows it doesn't get re-runs even today....
I didn't at the time watch ALL the TDUDP episodes, but this is only one I can think of where there is no swearing or near-swearing and where there aren't outrageous views being expressed. Much would be regarded as unacceptable now, although it was intended as a satire where the outrageous views are held up for inspection/ridicule, though many at the time didn"t see it that way.
This was when the series had more or less lost it "clout" and the very controversy that made it essential viewing. The earlier episodes are better, with the black and white ones having a certain "fizz" and energy in their plots that the colour ones just seemed to lack.
The episodes "Intolerance" and "The Blood Donor" are very good examples of the Till Death Us Do Part that everyone in the UK remembers.
Super! Don’t forget “Rising Damp”!
Loved the one where his wife went on strike
A bit of a tame episode tbh. Not moaning just saying.
I'm currently reading a book called Spike & Co. by Graham McCann. It's about a writing cooperative called Associated London Scripts that was started by Spike Milligan and Eric Sykes with Ray Galton and Alan Simpson. It was later joined by Johnny Speight and a host of other aspiring writers of comedy (as well as drama). Without this group we would not have had The Goon Show, Monty Python, Steptoe and Son, Till Death Us Do Part and a whole host of other comedy gold.
It would great to hear your views on, in my opinion the greatest non PC comedian, Mr Dave Allen
Have you seen Fawlty towers, gourmet night? It's an absolute classic episode of British comedy!
6:32 : One of the actors in the pub scene refers to the Alfie Bass character as 'Fred'; Alfie Bass gives him a quizzical look because his character is called 'Bert'.
It's Bert, short for Albert...
@@jrgboy I spelt 'Bert' incorrectly, which I will correct, but one of the other actors still referred to him by a completely different name ('Fred').
@@stephenderbyshire7849 - Yes your a right about the name being said wrong, I don't think continuity was considered important back then so they let it slide..
The young guy, Tony Booth, is Cherie Blair's dad. The programme started in 1965. The actress who played Alf's wife Else - Dandy Nichols - was ill in this series, that's why the character was in Australia.
Yes, Norman Lear bought the rights to this show and produced All in the Family based on it. He also bought the rights to Steptoe & Son and then produced a version for the US - Sanford & Son.
Alf is the one trying to balance the books. the young girl at the table in the pub is his daughter and the man is her husband, the man is the father of Cherie Blair who is Tony Blair's wife - TB ex-uk prime minister
Have you tried 'Fawlty Towers' yet? Apologies if you have. :-)
They have and they weren't too impressed.
@@JaredGriffiths2000 WOW! Even the Germans find it funny and they reputedly have no sense of humour, though try Henning Wehn for an exception to that generalisation. Try the "Don't mention the war" episode for one of the best.
@@JUANKERR2000 I love Fawlty Towers, I'm just saying they didn't care much for it.
Did you know that Michael , Alf’s son in law is played by Tony Booth , Cherie Blair’s father . I think he visited them at Downing Street at times, he passed away some years ago , a bit of a hell raiser in his time !
Tony Booth played Alf Garnett's Liverpudlian son in law and Alf always called him a randy scouse git. Back in the sixties this was as close to swearing as it got. When Micky Dolenz of The Monkees came to England he wrote a song that encapsulated all his experiences this side of the pond and called it Randy Scouse Git. The record company wouldn't release it in the UK with that name so, over here it was called Alternate Title.
As a kid growing up in Saarf London, my old man thought this was essential viewing. Love his accent, plus he was a "Happy Hammer". Props if you know what that means..
LOVE OLD ALF PITY HE CANT TALK OUT ABOUT ISLAM
The lead character is portrayed as outrageously right wing. In reality, the actor is outrageously left-wing. The three programme editions were called "Till Death Do Us Part", "In Sicknes And In Health", and "In Loving Memory" after the lead character's wife (and stronger personality) died.
@@Muckylittleme yes and unfortunately for the left wing playwrights who wanted to portray the working class as rascist bigots, it blew up in their faces because most of the working class could relate to Alf Garnet either through their own lives or that of their parents.I would think most, if not all of them would be todays ' Leave 'voters
@@Muckylittleme I couldn't agree more.
the progs they did were Till Death us Do Part from 1965 to 1975 then Till Death for ATV in 1981 and then in sickness and in health
@@Muckylittleme johnny speight was a working class eastender
I thought "In Loving Memory" was a Yorkshire based comedy series about an undertakers set in the 1920's and starring Thora Hird.
The young blond guy in the pub is Cherrie Blair's brother and Tony Blair's brother in law.
Pilot:
22 July 1965
First run:
6 June 1966 -
16 February 1968
Special:
18 June 1970
Second run:
13 September 1972 -
16 December 1975
Wonderful to see Americans enjoying British TV
The young guy Anthony Booth was Cherie Blair’s Father!
The inspiration for Archie Bunker was Alf Garnett, the character from the BBC1 sitcom Till Death Us Do Part, on which All in the Family was based.
You should’ve played a part with his wife in it she’s so funny
This is the original series that All In The Family is the American version of. Alf Garnet became Archie Bunker. There's the layabout son in law at the pub who became Mike 'Meathead' and the daughter. All In The Family is mostly set in the lounge too.
All In The Family was the US version of Till Death Do Us Part with Alf Garnet becoming Archie Bunker. The BBC sold the TV rights for 'Till Death' to CBS in 1970.
You want real British life as it is, watch the Royle family
lol nope
The clip you watched was very tame compared to many others in the series, Alf Garnett is an extreme right wing reactionary character but very funny in my opinion, he treats his wife with utter disdain but she copes with it all. The son in law is an actor by the name of Tony Booth who was the Father in law of the former prime minister Tony Blair, to listen to Alf Garnett on a number of subjects is a real education in itself, not least his belief that God is an Englishman , this he believes is obvious because the Son of God's parents are called Mary and Joseph which are English names according to Alf, priceless. PS I don't think the series would be commissioned today the Snowflakes would melt, I'm glad I lived through this era we didn't take offence at every little thing.
The early episodes were much more relevant at the time as Alf reflected the extreme views of a vast amount of people on politics, immigrants, women etc. The show helped make people consider his attitudes and question them.
You would probably find them hard to understand as they reference the early 1960s in Britain. It was one of the first shows to feature a lot of swearing, but never the F word! It is notable that Alf, Warren Mitchell, was Jewish but his character was anti-semitic. By the time this series aired, it had been modified to be more of a normal sitcom.
Alf was very typical of the older working class man, who had been through wars and hardship. He would stand for the national anthem, salute the flag and take off his hat as a funeral car passed. He would be polite to women in a patronizing way except to his wife who was a 'silly old moo!'
Try watching "Till Closing Time Do Us Part". It's on You Tube and has Dandy Nichols with the added bonus of Joan Sims aswel.
yeah, "All in the family" was an American remake in the same vein as the Office. It was one of the first US successes in remaking a British sitcom for the American market.
Your consistency in finding the least representative clip of shows you react to is incredible. You guys watched Porridge yet?
Unnecessary nastiness
The young blond haired guy in the pub was Tony Booth.He is the father of prime minister Tony Blair's wife.
Hi guys always good to find you. This was a very soft episode . Most of the episodes especially the early ones would not be allowed to be broadcast today. Very politically incorrect in today's world
Even when first broadcast they were a little outrageous.But it was compulsive viewing back then just to see who Alf would insult next.
Your correct All in the Family was a spin off but it was always felt a bit too innocent and tame for British tastes.
FYI: They also made a movie version too with the same characters/actors.
The man has definitely got a British sense of humour ,
All In The Family, the American sitcom was based on Till Death Us Do Part
The UK is full of people like Alf Garnett. We call them brexit supporters.
All in the Family was in fact an American Version of this show.
Alf Garnett (Dad) always argued the toss with his son in law his daughter and his wife regarding politics sport religion the royal family etc etc which ended in some classic comedy moments
Would never be allowed today ! But hilarious !
What are your favourite American Accents? Any you miss? (Minnesota nice perhaps, ya?)
All in the family was based on Till Death do us Part and Stanford and Son was based on Steptoe and Son.
You have to remember too This was the first generation after 6 years of world war and their parents who faught it. Englands Cities were bombed out the nation was bankrupt there was no money and the nation had to rebuild its infrastructure of worn out rail networks bombed out areas cope with the losses and infirm with no financial help from either Europe or America... Nobody wanted to know even though we won.. ( until... oddly enough we discovered North Sea Oil.. then Europe wanted us back just as we'd rebuilt our heavy industry.. invented the computer were ahead in jet airliners and rocketry and there was a cold war on with Russia with the threat of Nuclear annihilation... So Laughing at ourselves and the world and live for the day was the attitude.. Cinemas were closing because tv was invented for the home.. There were only three channels.. The pubs closed for eleven and tv ended the day around midnight.. It was all new and finding out what people were entertained by was pot luck.. Except for comedy.. Everybody likes to laugh and forget the worlds woes.. then came the birth of the sixties children who wanted something of their own by the eighties and each generation the same since.
The young man in the pub is Tony Booth. The father of Cherie Booth, the wife of ex Prime Minister Tony Blair.
Definitely watch older episodes with his wife. That was the best dynamic. The son in law is a socialist and Alf is a conservative.
Cheryl Blair's dad
.Tony booth
Try watching the episode 'Strikes & Blackouts' , set during the national strikes which caused random daily power cuts. One of the best episodes.
Always love your reactions to British comedy. Maybe react to Gimme Gimme Gimme.
the young guy was Tony Blairs father in law Anthony Booth
The 1960s episodes with Dandy Nichols were easily the best. The later episodes were't so shocking. 'All In The Family' was an American version because it was believed that American audiences wouldn't understand the political references or Cockney accents.
You are correct Archie Bunker is the American version. The young guy is his son in law and coincidentally he is Cherie Blaire's dad. Tony Blaire's wife
You must react to Keeping Up Appearances with Mrs Bucket I mean Bouquet. You won't be disappointed.
popmusic 93 oh yeah that was hilarious loved it!
this was ported to the US as archie bunker if memory serves
the hospital one and the one where he sneaks into a football match in his wifes wheelchair.
Alf and his wife, Else, are the parents of Rita, whose husband, Mike, was played by Anthony Booth, late father-in-law of former Prime Minister, Tony Blair. Alf would call Mike a 'Randy Scouse Git', because he was a 'Scouser' (i.e. from Liverpool), and The Monkees recorded a hit song of that title, but it had to be changed to 'Alternate Title'! Alf made a lot of racist comments in the show, but a lot of people found them funny, because they agreed with them, not realising they were meant to be ironic.
The song title was changed cos the BBC was very straight laced & being the only UK radio service, commercial radio didn't start till 1973, if you didn't conform they wouldn't play your records.
This is not the original monochrome years of TDUDP - those episodes couldn't be broadcast nowadays.
You should check out Edna, the Inebriate Woman, it stars Patricia Hayes who featured as the lady in the pub asking are you giving work another try. It's a very hard hitting drama from the Play for Today series ON the BBC the sort of thing they did brilliantly in the 1970's
I agree, but that wasn't comedy, it was a really thought provoking drama and gave Patricia Hayes a real crack at something meaty. I was already a fan but I saw a real dramatic star in that as well.
@@davidmarkersnr.1888 I just thought it would be a good link to Patrica Hayes to all our PMF the chance to see her whole range and focus on how great British Drama can be
Archie Bunker was based on Alf Garnett. The young guy is Alf's son-in-law but the actor is who plays the son-in-law was actually the father-in-law of Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister.
"All in the family" was based on this........
Alf is supposed to be a reactionary working class guy who is having a tough time adapting to a changing world. His daughter has married a socialist freeloader from Liverpool. The US bought the rights to the series and created "All in the Family".
the funniest clip I remember was Alf having a bath in the living room, the tin bath that people had before bathrooms and the national anthem came on the radio so patriotic Alf stood to attention.
British comedy at it's best legendary sadly missed now. in this PC. world
The "young guy" is the daughters boyfriend, the actor Anthony Booth is father of Cherry Booth wife of Tony Blair (ex Prime Minister)
All in the family was the USA version of Till Death us do part. The younger actor in the pub sitting down was indeed the main characters son in law, played by Anthony Booth who happens to be the real life father of Cherie Booth Blair who is married to ex Prime Minister Tony Blair. If you find 'Steptoe and son', its also the original that was made in the USA as Sanford and son! There are various other comedy's translated over to the USA, although for some reason its hardly ever as successful the other way around. The UK usually stick with US originals.
Golden girls was a big hit here and they even made a UK version too called Brighton Belles, it flopped. Also Who's the boss, big in the UK, but they made a UK version too called The Upper hand, which also was a hit over here in the UK. Hope this helps!!
I'm not sure if you've already seen it, but I think you might like "Rev" - a comedy about a Church of England vicar who, having had a country parish in Suffolk is transferred to an inner city London parish.
I notice that you say "Till Death Do Us Part" (and write that in your intro caption), although the title of the programme is "Till Death Us Do Part". I wonder how that difference between the American English and British English formulations came about -- something to do with the prayer books in use on either side of the Atlantic?
Anthony Booth who plays the son in law of Alf Garnett was Tony Blair's father in law.
Fantastic programme. So funny but so true.x
This is a clean episode compared to the others
American's should know of "Til Death us do Part" as Archie Bunker and "All in the Family" was the US adaptation of this.
It's actually called ' Till Death Us Do Part ' should of had an ep with the wife in it she well funny
There's a spin off series from the BBC from the 80s called ' In Sickness And In Health '
Info : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Sickness_and_in_Health
Before that ITV took over the programming but only 6 episodes it was called
' Till Death '
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Death...
You don't see replays on TV anymore because of the nature of the programming and the uk was different back then
Yes do “one foot in the grave” 😊
I certainly encourage watching some "In sickness and in health" to follow this up because you will get to see some brillaint non PC stuff :D
The blonde guy in the pub was his socialist labour voting work shy Scouser . The actor was Tony Booth father of Cherie Booth , the wife of PM Tony Blair . That's some coincidence ..
Try 'the plank' by Eric Sykes.... A true classic. There's two versions, a 1967 version and a 1979 version
yes the bunkers was an american version check out The thoughts of chairman alf ROFL :)
have you saw Not the 9 o clock News its funny. also Rab C Nesbit the episode where he is on the run from the police in Glasgow and goes to London to his brothers to hide. the bbc in scotland put subtitles in the episode to translate the scottish/glasgow accent into bbc southern english its wort looking up
They are both written by Johnny Speight, there is even a German version.
The first two series are the ones to watch.
The young blonde man in the clip, is Tony Booth, he was the father- in - law of Tony Blair.
Another for Steptoe and Son. The Two Ronnie's do Mastermind, Porridge and Open all hours are good too.
One UK show that you have to see to get a taste of life in the North of England that is hilarious is Phoenix Nights.
Watch keeping up appearances that was class!
All In The Family is the US version of Til Death Do Us Part.
Love your videos. Keep them up.
Watch citizen smith! CLassic that´s so underrated!
Written by John Sullivan, who went on to write Only Fools And Horses
@@MrJonno85 What a writer ey? :)
@@DanielRobertspiano Sure was. Apparently Robert Lindsay wants to make some more but it seems Sullivan's family aren't keen
Something like that couldn't be made now.
These were all our classics when I was growing up and they were taken as good by anyone no matter what race and religion you were but then came the politically correct lot and had it all stopped in case anyone got offended now you can't say anything in the UK without being called a racist now we only have rubbish to watch and they are repeats of repeats; the UK as gone down the Pan thank god I am in my 70's now at least I have had the pleasure of seeing some great things in my life what we need is a revolution to put things right. god bless from the UK
Pretty sure Archie Bunker was modelled at least partially on Alf Garnett