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Taking the RV-14 to MAX G!
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2022
- Max 6G Pull + Acro Restriction Removal process!
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In this episode we unlock the full potential of the RV-14; Sharing the process of removing the #aerobatic restriction, which was a part of the initial certificate of airworthiness.
This airplane checks off a lot of boxes - it is a great IFR platform, but also being capable of aerobatics, and #tailwheel configured was a bit part of the appeal.
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In Canada, Transport Canada requires an amateur built aircraft to undergo what is known as a “simplified one-off aerobatic demonstration”. Since the airworthiness of an amateur built airplane is entirely dependant on the standards left to the builder. TC provides a straightforward check of items to be completed first to obtain a special flight permit which allows a specifically qualified individual to carry out the aerobatic demonstration flight. The guidance provided is found in Airworthiness Manual Advisory (AMA) No. 549.101A. It should be noted that this process is specific to Canada. Although not required in the USA, it is highly recommended that a properly qualified aerobatic pilot perform a similar validation flight of the full envelope characteristics of an amateur built airplane.
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It was SUCH a pleasure flying the RV14 with Steve and Dave. Its a beautiful airplane, built with exceptional precision. I can’t wait to get out to Windsor to see you guys again !!👊🏻
Are spectators allowed at WAAC that is happening in Las Vegas? I would love to attend.
Such an awesome airplane!!!
Good work! I'd love to fly with you sometime, if I'm ever out that way :)
I got to fly in my cousin’s RV8A that he built. My first thought was that it looked eager to fly just sitting there on the ramp, and once we got balance figured out with 250lb me in the back seat, I found out that his happy little plane WAS eager to fly. It was a literal trip to realize that this amazing plane started out as a pile of parts in his Vancouver garage. Even though he no longer owns it, I think it’s cool that the main spar has a bunch of rivets that I helped install. I’m sure the present owner got a wonderful aircraft, C-GRJE.
Can't wait for the next adventure!
You've hit the pinnacle of aviation when other pilots give you their airplane to "unlock" the fun!! Awesome stuff! PS: That Extra 300 aileron roll looks photoshopped, is how crisp it looks 👌
The series with Luke in the Extra I think is my favourite so this was great to see!
Seeing how awesome this RV is and being a backcountry guy the RV-15 is getting more interesting with every FlightChops video I watch.
Also luke is so great - glad he's been uploading little videos to his channel.
what an awesome video, it's really something to hear someone with that much experience say "man I could do this all day", sums up why we fly, not because it makes a whole lot of sense for most of us but because we love it...
My envy for that plane just gets greater Steve - a beautiful build indeed. Luke wrung it out very nicely - a most accomplished pilot. Nice camera angles.
Adventure Time. Plus all around happy to see Ron!
For sure - Ron is always a positive force around the hangar!
@@FlightChops before warbird yellow!
Good morning from Minnesota USA!! Outstanding!!
I just love your RV more every time I see it!! I'm not sure how many engine choices there were, but that was a great one!! I love the sounds it makes! I did get one big laugh when Luke was trying for G's, he looked out the right and said "wings still on". LOLOL!! Congrats again on a great airplane!! 8) --gary
Glad you enjoyed it Gary!
12:41 can't help but giggle a little at the now normal and expected traffic not available 😆
haha - yeah - it's weird... but thankfully only brief
You're such the asset to GA and EA! Love the videos, even my wife (non-pilot) enjoys them.
Beautiful views of Essex County!
Just plain old awesome! love it, thank you from one old war horse.
I love the rolling selfie!
Steve, Congratulations ! You have a Fantastic Home Built ! Have FUN with it !
Thanks!
I love the deadpan “the wings are still on” 😅
Luke makes it looks so easy, can't wait to watch him fly the older birds.
Welcome to the Yellowbirds Luke! Good to see Ron again; was thinking of him the other day while I was reviewing my CAM videos. Looking forward to showing him the RV-8 in person. I haven't done aerobatics in it much; still have some cowl rubbing at high Gs. Might be something I work on after finishing up the repaired and modified wheel fairings. Can't wait till I fly into Windsor to visit. Documentation is done; just waiting for the right day.
Looking forward to it buddy!
Absolutely a wonderful video! Superb editing and phenomenal content. Luke flies the maneuvers with such ease and elegance. Thanks for another great video Steve!
Awesome to watch this part of the process and to watch Luke fly that thing so nicely! Congatulations!
Thanks - More to come!
Great to see a well thought out approach to expanding the envelope. Reminds me of flight testing my rv4 in the early 90's. It was impossible to get it to spin inverted untill I discovered that the flaps were popping out of detent and drooping about ten degrees. 🤪
5:55! What a shot! That looked amazing.
Nice!! A testament to you and the crew for the quality build, and to Van's for designing an AWESOME airplane. Thanks for posting, just watching this makes me feel confident about flying my -14........when it eventually gets finished. 🙃
14:50 Congrats!
excellent.....good checkout of a nicely built aircraft
Love the camera work, especially with the right seat FC logo in the foreground. You have an aerobatic aircraft Steve!
This is awesome! Never have taken my -14 to 6g but nice to know a pro can do it!
Yeah there's really no need for 6 Gs - and you can see how hard Luke had to work to get it there. I'm just glad to know it is a non-issue for the airframe.
Nice video. Nice flying and aircraft. When we went inverted, the engine stopped but not for long. RVs magnificent. RAFVR, here.
AWESOME, Steve!! That is one heck of an airplane, just as I figured it would be watching the entire build process! Congrats on having its full potential unleashed! 🙌👍😎👍
Looking good Luke! Best of the season to you and yours. 👍😎
That looks like so much fun. Thanks for the motivation. Now I just have to spend a few years figuring out how the heck I'm going to get to 6Gs. I mean, I'm sure my plane that I'm allegedly building will do it but...
Good luck!
Super cool man. Rv14 is such a great airplane
Another typically awesome video! Great job, Steve!👍
Glad you like them!
I’m exhausted just watching that. Hope we can go up when you get out to the Kootenays 😊
Haha - yeah... wait until the next one when he's training me in it!
Awesome!!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome video Luke and Steve! I just got an RV4 and looking forward to flying it!
Good choice! The RV-4 is an amazing machine!
I had to come back to this video to finish watching. I started to feel sick. Too life like. Lol! We’ll done Flight Chops.
I try :)
👍 Great to see manoeuvres spelt correctly for a change! CZcams of course insisting otherwise
that's awesome! well within normal aerobatic range for the airframe and has the 6g top end in case of unforseen or induced situations.
seeing how hard it was to get too that 6g should be abig relief.
safe aerobatic fun, what can be better than that?
This is why I always fly with a parachute....
haha
What a buitiful production, as is to be expected! Perhaps you should consider doing this full time? WAIT! WHAT? 😁😁😁😏
well done, THANKS
Thanks for watching!
Good video
Really interesting as always, thanks!
Thanks Ben, Glad you enjoyed it!
Your videos have taken me from 100% wanting an 8 to 75% wanting an 8 and 25% wanting a 14...this airplane looks really really fun...I can't decide between sitting centerline and sitting next to my passenger...
Haha - awesome!
My thoughts on this are: “If I was more selfish, I’d definitely get an RV-8. Nothing beats the singular experience of sitting in the centerline, flying aerobatics with the sick in your right hand, throttle in your left… But sharing the experience with a passenger whom you can’t see, is sub optimal.” So really it comes down to this question: “How important is sharing flying while seamlessly interacting and engaging with your passenger?” For me, that is very important, so the decision was made.
Nice. Enjoyed.
This guy is a virtuoso of the air.
Totally!
"We put in a caged red switch, we gotta use it." That is the rule.
i need to try and get into a 14. having been in an 8 and loving it i need to try more
If you check out my recent videos about "thinking inside the box" and "prop strike!" there is some good info about both these types.
I want to see the feed from the wing or cockpit looking left to appreciate how much flex you see on those high G tests.
I'm pretty sure with these airframes there isn't much flex - composite is more designed to do that.
Amazing!
I reckon I need to treat myself to an RV14 for my 70th b/day :) :)
Nice. Just got my PPL, I'm looking for some recommendations on Aerobatic training in Ontario.
Should collab with HeavyD Sparks.
Whee! 😍
Another great video! What is the part number for that brace you have on the rear overhead RAM mounted camera, please?
It's a standard RAM suction with the short arm.
@@FlightChops ah, thanks. It looked like there was some sort of rigid bracing attached to the arm - I wondered if it was for G-loading.
Let me get this straight: He gets PAID to do this?! :P LOL
Yup :)
Why do I have a feeling that "Traffic" isn't working while inverted? :D
Congrats on removing the sticker!
Thanks!
Another milestone - congrats! Now you truly have a cross-country and acro machine. Question: Do you remove your seatback cushions to compensate for the chutes, or just deal with it?
Dave is so tall that the (ground adjustable) seats / pedals are set so he can fit well and I can juuuuusst reach full pedal deflection. So with a chute on I feel a bit closer to the panel, but it is actually easier for me to reach full pedal deflection - especially during a hammer head when I get light in the seat and reach for full rudder.
@@FlightChops Thanks Steve. Enjoy your Holidays!
Agree totally with spadgerdogs comments.
"wings are still attached" that's reassuring LOL I am well acquainted with Luke, his experience and expertise were essential for me to learn the skills I needed to fly my RV6. I'm quite certain he saved me from bending it on more than one occasion! Luke was great to fly with, and recommend Harv's Air 100% for any and all training. here's a link to a little of my experience flying with Luke, it was worth every penny
czcams.com/video/gZB0Eg90Nvk/video.html
Is it procession / left turning tendency that makes right spin recovery more difficult? I thought it would be the opposite situation.
That’s a good point.., lemme ask Luke about that.
Aerobatic Confirmation = The wings stayed on and I survived...LOL...I bet those stout stubby wings are way overbuilt and would hold 9 g's...
They will probably begin to fail above 6g, but before 9g at aerobatic gross weight.
Above 6g they will begin developing permanent deformation that will seriously compromise the structural integrity on subsequent flights.
Flying solo, well below aerobatic design weight may allow a small increase in structural reserve. Permitting a small increase in g before permanent deformation. But then there is the limitation of everything else, engine mount, propeller flange, fuselage tail download. Etc.
This is the nature of Aluminum, and aero-structures.
Why are you trying to pull 6 gs in the vertical?
does it have inverted fuel and oil?
Hey, Steve. Have you ordered a smoke system for it yet?
I'd like to learn more about the options...
@@FlightChops
It was just a random thought.
I don't know how much air show work you plan on doing. Otherwise, who needs it?
Hey Steve, is your tail stinger reverse bent (noticed at 0:27 mark) or is it just the distortion from the GoPro wide angle?
Like that it is pointing down / away from the rudder? That’s the design to all it max travel if landing hard tail first
@@FlightChops interesting. Wonder if that’s specific to the -14? The -7 stinger is straight according to the build plans, and they often get bent upwards from rough landings. However I’ve heard of builders putting a reverse bend in them
So, the way that you test whether a 'plane is safe to do aerobatics in is to do aerobatics in it
Correct. That’s why it’s probably a good idea to have a professional do this. You’ll notice he was wearing a parachute and the flight was planned over an unpopulated area. But the airplane is designed to be able to handle what it was put through. The purpose of this process is to prove that it was built to meet the standards. Serious question though: if you watched the entire video, does it not answer all of this?
Is aeroplane the common spelling in Canada?
I think so…
Narc can fly. Harder without CZcams.
Wuh?
Hey Guys I watch your Videos regularly but after watching this video today.
I would like to say that you guys are awesome though I'm not from non - airline background I tend to learn lot of stuffs from you even though I'm not using it.
So I have request to Luke Penner. Will you be interested to teach son Aerobatics. I'm from India and I'm planning to come to Canada.
What, no -3G testing?
That would have been fun to watch
We don’t have inverted oil/fuel systems for it, and honestly, you need ratchet belts for properly flying negative G.
So I decided we’d just test 0 to +6, knowing we’d mostly be operating in the 0.5 to 4G range.
First?
Looks like it.
6g is a limit, not a target. That is not responsible flying.
When a designer draws up an aircraft they assign a G limit . There is an extra margin before structural failure that is built into the airframe. The +6G limit is the amount of G that the designer says the structure can handle without damage or deformation. Testing a homebuilt airplane involves these types of envelope expansion flights to ensure that this specific aircraft meets those performance expectations and safety margins. It's best to test it to its expected limits (not to failure) in a controlled environment like this. Would be horrible to be screaming out of the bottom of a loop and find out that the spar fails at 5.5 G.
@@terryfulwider1296
Hahahahaaha - here is a guy who has had an aeroplane essentially built for him. He has a monetised CZcams channel and glamourises flight testing. I am sorry - this is ever so sad and unfortunately sends messages out to the flying community which are not safe, in my humble opinion.
RV’s are excellent Sunday Afternoon Aerobatic aeroplanes - built 5 of them and fly an RV7. Superb aeroplane. No need for more than 4g…….. Ever.
I’m not sure you’re exhibiting any humble aspects in you’re opinions there Trent…