@@flyingdog1498 30+. Someone did a live fill to fill & the math & was driving pretty aggressive. Regular cruise or drive for milage on a long trip as not to fiil upas much, I would guess 35-38 as to the 47mpg that Harley claims for the stock 114.
🤔 So, the comment from Snake bite is the same comment that he posted on my 131 Screaming Eagle video! Coincidence? I dont think so. Heres the thing, the HD screaming eagle kit makes the power to the wheel! The Challenger makes around 103 hp and 117 torque, so the screaming eagle has them beat even with the old stage kits! No hate against the Challenger I like what Indian is doing. I usually dont comment but when I saw the exact same comment that was on my video I had to say something. Thanks for the upload guys. Have a blessed day!
Traveling Tall he seems to be simply throwing punches at H-D. Doesn’t matter who makes the videos. I’ve been watching your build as well. You will love the motor in your bike.
Isnt the 103/117 numbers a stock challeger at the wheel though? Comoare those numbers to this builds stock wheel numbers and its a whole other sport. A motor capable of the challengers stock numbers will likely need alot less to make alot more. I could care less but when you add 13 or 14 inches to a motor who cant compete in stock form then compare those numbers to the competitors stock bike its no longer apples and oranges. Its like apples and sandwiches
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki the challenger is full liguid cooled compare to air/oil cooled indian looks like a clubhouse sandwich,both are great bikes just personal preference ✌
@@cruisinwithcannibal7280 absolutley correct. I love bikes of all kinds. Just chuckle sometimes at all the brand posturing. HD used Shovels for 20 years and evos lasted about 15 if memory serves. Then twin cam 88s came out. A year or 2 later victory came on the market and slaughtered the 88s with theyre 92. Hd changed plants like 4 times over the next 10to 15 years to catch vic. If you love big American twins then this shows that competition helps enthusiasts.
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki can't wait to try my buddies Challenger this summer he's been a Harley guy his whole life til he rode an Indian.Kept the Harley but it sits alot now.I just ordered the same 131 kit for my lowrider s will let you know how it turns out✌
How much motor do you need to have fun and fly down the road on a Harley-Davidson? I say truth be told a 88 or 96ci motor. The new M8 motors are fine and basically a EVO motor reborn with a modern twist. I say ride what you have, maintain what you have, change oil regularly on what you have and ride your Harley-Davidson instead of it being on a lift in a shop.
If you have this 131 kit and put it on a 107 you’d get a 128? Do you have to case bore the 107 or just replace the flywheel to a 4.5 and you’ll get a 131 on a 107 with a 4.5 flywheel vs the 4.375?
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki Thanks Kevin, I have a dilemma that has been tough for me to decide and your advice would be really appreciated. I've had this bike for 10 years now and i've kept it bone stock. One day I woke up and said... I'm going ride it to Daytona and get the designer and Grandson "Willie G" to autograph it. As luck would have it "mission accomplished". NOW I don't know what to do with this bike! I have other bikes but I'm literally half afraid to ride this one anymore. What would you do? Here's a short video of "Annie". czcams.com/video/eIohnw2glPk/video.html
@@kennethwise7108 wow man, thats a tough one. Im usually all about riding em and enjoying the crap out of em, but a numbered anniversary, autographed honey like that........ its almost a museum piece. Tough call
Pff....practically you are changing the entire engine for what? I'm buying a Triumph Rocket 3 GT with more technology...more horse power....more torque and engine with 2500 cc....o monster bike which make road glide a puppy
B2daOB man I’ve got 18,000 miles on this stage 2 so if anything was gonna go south it would have happened by now. And as far as the Warranty goes that went away the minute I did my stage two From Fuel Moto and I knew this from the get-go and had no problem doing it. I trust their set ups Waymore then I do dealing with a Harley dealer. Fuel Moto knows their shit Harley screaming eagle parts are junk and Harley knows this. It’s all done by Design. Harley & the aftermarket world are both in bed together you spend thousands of dollars on a bike because they know that You’ll be coming to the aftermarket world to make the bike run better. There’s absolutely no reason why a guy spends $20,000 on a Harley and Has to put another 4000 into it to make it run correct and that too is a joke. Don’t get me wrong I love my Harley and I love Harleys all in general but The price you pay for a brand new one and then have to turn around and dump another 3/4/5 into it to make it run the way it should run is unacceptable.
@@kendean2119 Okay, well my point was Warranty means something to some people. If i'm going to spend 30k on a bike and them lose my warranty to put a kit in the bottom end can't handle because it's not rated or lose warranty cause it's not tested for, it's your choice and if that doesn't matter to you that's fine . That's why I said "apples and oranges". Being a Parts Manager for H-D I've sold plenty of Harley, Fuel Moto, Revolution , S&S ect and trust me I've seen the horrors when they go wrong, in most ideal situations, so it can happen to any of them. Honestly Harley and Screaming eagle stuff is not junk there is a lot of things they make that are way better than aftermarket for the price and performance .So for you to say 129hp/135lb-tq is a joke and that's backed by a warranty just isn't true. I'm not hating on Fueling I had their stage 4 on my old Road glide 2015 110'' outlaw no issues but this Harley 131'' on my new bike 2019 would smoke it and that's with warranty. (same price)
Is it possible to use after market headers like rinehart With the stage IV kit or a 131 crate motor... asking coz I already have the rinehart header pipes... I know it will void the warranty but would still be good to know.
ritesh mathur I would sure like to try several headers out onto this set up. Once we are done with the initial customers I will begin doing comparisons. I’ll start with Jackpot and Fullsak.
ritesh mathur with that year I believe we will need to work on the tune. The download in the street tuner is specifically for a 2020. I have a customer shipping a 2018 FLTRXS for us to install this kit. He agreed to let us use his bike to dial in a tune for older bikes.
Hi Landon, I’m getting the 131ci kit on my 2019 SGS. I know the kit comes with the SE Stage IV 131 timing cover but do you know if H-D is coming out with 131 Derby cover. Seems to be a little silly to have a big 114 on the left side and a smaller 131 Stage IV on the right side. :)
You should always stay with a build that keeps a customers warranty if not you better let them know before hand and before you do work on there motorcycle that there warranty is void bought a brand new 2018 softail breakout dealership voided my warranty before I put a mile on the bike after a stage 4 install Harley Davidson got me on that stage 4 not this one the numbers are not good for the money
@@hobonickel so as a person who is in the market to buy a 2020 motorcycle i did some checking as i really like the 2020 SGS in Scortched Orange and where i live the upgrade is $4200 and about 15 hours to install so thats another $1500 minimum. bringing my total to $26,000 for the SRS in the colour i want, $4200 for the upgrade and $1500 for install for a tatal of $31,700. Alternatively i could get the crate motor for $6200 plus $1500 for install bring my total to $33,700; however, i could sell the stock 114 motor for about $2,000 bring my total back to $31,700. That is probably the best option. I should be noted that you still require stage 1 exhaust for both option so that another $900. The final option would be to not buy a Harley SRS and get the 2020 Indian Challenger Dark Horse for $27,999 and save myself at least $4000 and have the same performance and power but more options on the motorcycle. I have a feeling i will be passing on the Harley.
The kit is 3500... plus an oil pump ($180 )if its not a 2020 and another friction plate (?100)..if its not a 114" and 6 dealers i priced were usually 12-16hrs of labor ....some shops have a no option dyno tune around 280-360...so about 6k maybe 7k if your hd dealer has a higher labor rate
Thomas Renfrow this 131 kit installed with everything to meet the H-D warranty requirements totaled $6200. Only part used from the kit was the headbolts and we went with S&S for $100 or so additional.
So with the H-D crate 131" engine i get the same power & performance as the Indian 108. With the H-D i have to spend $25k on a new Street Glide Special plus $6000 + install for the 131" engine. What is install, another$1500? Bringing the total cost to $36,600. Alternatively, i could spend $25k on a 2020 Indian Challenger and spend nothing extra for the motor to get the exact same performance and power as Harley's 131" Not to mention the Challenger is a more modern engine and the bike itself looks far better. Hmmm, pretty easy decision for me, my Harley days were gone in 2014 and i see no reason to ever go back to Harley.
If your Harley days are over then why are you even here writing negative paragraphs. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but to come on there there dealership page and only disparage there brand is not cool at all and makes u a troll. These people are just "showing the world" new options. Try keeping your eyes and heart open! Congratulations on your purchase of the challenger!!
Did I upset you? If so, I don’t care. I am tired of HD and their dealers ripping people off with their substandard dated products If people actually saw past brand loyalty like I have they would see there are FAR better products ya with better standard features. Indian, BMW, Triumph Hell even the Yamaha Eluder is a better bike than the street glide but Harley people are too stupid to see past their over inflated HD logo
@@snakebite6511 Trolls don't get under my skin. There is lots of cool shit in this world, and alot of different manufactures making those vehicles and products. To me it doesn't matter what u ride or what you have. If those other manufactures have cool shit and are doing cool shit then you should make a youtube vid about them and I would watch your video. Then I might become more interested in them. Then we could have a discussion on your page about all the cool sweet stuff there doing.
Harley Davidson REALLY missed the boat in my opinion. The 131" should come stock on ALL of their CVO bikes. After all, you're spending 40+ grand on a "Hot rod bike", SHOULDN'T IT COME ALREADY FACTORY INSTALLED??? Just goes to show how disconnected The Motor Company really is from their customers.
Kenneth Wise that has been a discussion around the shop for weeks. Our guess is HD will roll it out in CVO products and possibly a special edition touring series first.
@@2007flhx1What a damn shame. Sorry to hear that, its really a black eye in my opinion and is a direct reflection of how bad the leadership is currently at the Motor Company. Matt Levatich really needs to step down and let someone else get in there and square that place away. I keep telling Matt Laidlaw that he needs to step into the Corporate world and make a run at it because he knows what the people want. Matt Levatich is absolutely clueless... Sorry for the rant, its just that I'm passionate about HD and want to see them succeed but then they go and do stuff like this, Typical...
Kenneth Wise I didn’t mind that rant. I assure you that our store sure wants to see this engine rolled out to the customer base. I can’t believe they would spend the money they did to develop these motors and not roll them into a bike. Years of time invested it the R&D, surely it will happen. That’s my optimism showing. Enjoyed this conversation with you. I can tell you share a passion for the products.
@@2007flhx1 Yes Sir, I'm extremely passionate about these bikes. I've ridden nothing but HD's my entire life and have amassed roughly 500,000 miles on these great machines. For what its worth I have heard of a few dealerships offering the Stage IV free with purchase which I feel should be done across the board. That would REALLY help bolster sales in a time when you guys really need it the most.
Kenneth Wise if you read the details about the “free” motors, you may find the dealers are showing the prices with the motor included. So a $25k msrp bike will be selling for $30k. (Just an example) Also for these motors it kits to carry the full warranty they must be installed by a dealer. Just some info that isn’t really said in those ads. Or at least the ads I’ve seen.
Can you use a better looking bike the butt ugly road glide I sure in the hell not buying one of those you may be able to sell it to me in a street glide
Valentin Marin we are talking with a customer for a Fatboy 131. Will use Powervision as the tuner. If it happens we will shoot a video and post Dyno numbers.
![Harley Davidson 131 kit install ] How Much Money was it ? I'm dumb with money!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5unswk9DWV4/mqdefault.jpg)
This type of power is not for everyone but it is damn sure for me!!!!👍
What the fuck good is it? Vibrate your teeth out going around the block. 18 MPG. Expected life 450 miles.
@@flyingdog1498 "stop trolling on Harley! that's all you do on every video out there! it's getting old..
@@flyingdog1498 30+. Someone did a live fill to fill & the math & was driving pretty aggressive. Regular cruise or drive for milage on a long trip as not to fiil upas much, I would guess 35-38 as to the 47mpg that Harley claims for the stock 114.
🤔 So, the comment from Snake bite is the same comment that he posted on my 131 Screaming Eagle video! Coincidence? I dont think so. Heres the thing, the HD screaming eagle kit makes the power to the wheel! The Challenger makes around 103 hp and 117 torque, so the screaming eagle has them beat even with the old stage kits! No hate against the Challenger I like what Indian is doing. I usually dont comment but when I saw the exact same comment that was on my video I had to say something. Thanks for the upload guys. Have a blessed day!
Traveling Tall he seems to be simply throwing punches at H-D. Doesn’t matter who makes the videos. I’ve been watching your build as well. You will love the motor in your bike.
Isnt the 103/117 numbers a stock challeger at the wheel though? Comoare those numbers to this builds stock wheel numbers and its a whole other sport. A motor capable of the challengers stock numbers will likely need alot less to make alot more. I could care less but when you add 13 or 14 inches to a motor who cant compete in stock form then compare those numbers to the competitors stock bike its no longer apples and oranges. Its like apples and sandwiches
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki the challenger is full liguid cooled compare to air/oil cooled indian looks like a clubhouse sandwich,both are great bikes just personal preference ✌
@@cruisinwithcannibal7280 absolutley correct. I love bikes of all kinds. Just chuckle sometimes at all the brand posturing. HD used Shovels for 20 years and evos lasted about 15 if memory serves. Then twin cam 88s came out. A year or 2 later victory came on the market and slaughtered the 88s with theyre 92. Hd changed plants like 4 times over the next 10to 15 years to catch vic. If you love big American twins then this shows that competition helps enthusiasts.
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki can't wait to try my buddies Challenger this summer he's been a Harley guy his whole life til he rode an Indian.Kept the Harley but it sits alot now.I just ordered the same 131 kit for my lowrider s will let you know how it turns out✌
How much motor do you need to have fun and fly down the road on a Harley-Davidson? I say truth be told a 88 or 96ci motor. The new M8 motors are fine and basically a EVO motor reborn with a modern twist.
I say ride what you have, maintain what you have, change oil regularly on what you have and ride your Harley-Davidson instead of it being on a lift in a shop.
Well, I am glad I waited to throw the stage for on my bike. Now I am considering this
If you have this 131 kit and put it on a 107 you’d get a 128? Do you have to case bore the 107 or just replace the flywheel to a 4.5 and you’ll get a 131 on a 107 with a 4.5 flywheel vs the 4.375?
Man, I wish I could upgrade my Evo powered Road Glide to a Big ass engine like that!
Probably get more trouble free miles out of that old evo
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki true, currently pushing 138,000 miles on my ol gal.
@@kennethwise7108 man Id keep that thing forever.
@@DrDaddy-yg2ki Thanks Kevin, I have a dilemma that has been tough for me to decide and your advice would be really appreciated. I've had this bike for 10 years now and i've kept it bone stock. One day I woke up and said... I'm going ride it to Daytona and get the designer and Grandson "Willie G" to autograph it. As luck would have it "mission accomplished". NOW I don't know what to do with this bike! I have other bikes but I'm literally half afraid to ride this one anymore. What would you do? Here's a short video of "Annie".
czcams.com/video/eIohnw2glPk/video.html
@@kennethwise7108 wow man, thats a tough one. Im usually all about riding em and enjoying the crap out of em, but a numbered anniversary, autographed honey like that........ its almost a museum piece. Tough call
What's up big worm,keep up the great work.
If this kit is governed, why would anyone spend close to $10,000 to do the same as a 107 or 114? Top speed will still be governed at 110
Pff....practically you are changing the entire engine for what?
I'm buying a Triumph Rocket 3 GT with more technology...more horse power....more torque and engine with 2500 cc....o monster bike which make road glide a puppy
Are the springs, lifters, and pushrods in the kit made for performance engines? Asking because I’m ordering the kit but switching the cam out
Hal Florida springs, lifters, yes. We would go with adjustable pushrods not in the kit. We also changed to S&S headbolts.
Its a shame its not available in the UK would order one today.
Ken Stirling if I could ship to you I would!
@@2007flhx1 Thanks, hopefully may be available in the next few months.
@@stirlingmotors forgetit and get the Triumph Rocket 3
Would be a miracle if that thing lasts 5000 miles !
can the HD Torque cam be used to bring the torque on eatlier
121 horse and 131 torque for a 131” BBK is a joke.
A fuel Moto stage 2 on my 114 breakout makes 116/127 at the tire and its still a 114”
a joke? ...ok well if you blow your motor, will Fuel Moto back you with a warranty??? I think not.... Apples and Oranges
B2daOB man
I’ve got 18,000 miles on this stage 2 so if anything was gonna go south it would have happened by now. And as far as the Warranty goes that went away the minute I did my stage two From Fuel Moto and I knew this from the get-go and had no problem doing it. I trust their set ups Waymore then I do dealing with a Harley dealer. Fuel Moto knows their shit Harley screaming eagle parts are junk and Harley knows this. It’s all done by Design. Harley & the aftermarket world are both in bed together you spend thousands of dollars on a bike because they know that You’ll be coming to the aftermarket world to make the bike run better. There’s absolutely no reason why a guy spends $20,000 on a Harley and Has to put another 4000 into it to make it run correct and that too is a joke. Don’t get me wrong I love my Harley and I love Harleys all in general but The price you pay for a brand new one and then have to turn around and dump another 3/4/5 into it to make it run the way it should run is unacceptable.
@@kendean2119 Okay, well my point was Warranty means something to some people. If i'm going to spend 30k on a bike and them lose my warranty to put a kit in the bottom end can't handle because it's not rated or lose warranty cause it's not tested for, it's your choice and if that doesn't matter to you that's fine . That's why I said "apples and oranges". Being a Parts Manager for H-D I've sold plenty of Harley, Fuel Moto, Revolution , S&S ect and trust me I've seen the horrors when they go wrong, in most ideal situations, so it can happen to any of them. Honestly Harley and Screaming eagle stuff is not junk there is a lot of things they make that are way better than aftermarket for the price and performance .So for you to say 129hp/135lb-tq is a joke and that's backed by a warranty just isn't true. I'm not hating on Fueling I had their stage 4 on my old Road glide 2015 110'' outlaw no issues but this Harley 131'' on my new bike 2019 would smoke it and that's with warranty. (same price)
B2daOB man Now we’re up to 129 and 135 those numbers are still weak for 131 in.³ motor.
There is absolutely no reason why a 131 could not be making 135 to 140 horse with 150 to 160 foot pounds of torque end of discussion
Is it possible to use after market headers like rinehart With the stage IV kit or a 131 crate motor... asking coz I already have the rinehart header pipes... I know it will void the warranty but would still be good to know.
ritesh mathur I would sure like to try several headers out onto this set up. Once we are done with the initial customers I will begin doing comparisons. I’ll start with Jackpot and Fullsak.
Landon Burcham would surely wait for the results... my question was more towards fitment compatibility though...
ritesh mathur I would not expect fitment to be an issue. What bike do you have?
Landon Burcham 2018 Roadking
ritesh mathur with that year I believe we will need to work on the tune. The download in the street tuner is specifically for a 2020. I have a customer shipping a 2018 FLTRXS for us to install this kit. He agreed to let us use his bike to dial in a tune for older bikes.
What is difference between this kit and stage 4 kit ?
Should be a little faster than Vrod?
Thats it for hp and torque?? I can do that with my 114
for the price you be expecting more than that
The power is nice but what about the brakes? My fat boy 114 brakes are already insufficient for the stock motor with only 1 disc up front.
These are for touring models only, and they all have duals on the front
Mall or mahle?
tyler knudtson Mahle
Hi Landon, I’m getting the 131ci kit on my 2019 SGS. I know the kit comes with the SE Stage IV 131 timing cover but do you know if H-D is coming out with 131 Derby cover. Seems to be a little silly to have a big 114 on the left side and a smaller 131 Stage IV on the right side. :)
David Torres nothing yet but we are having some custom made for us. Should be a couple of weeks to have them available.
I’d like to buy one when they come in if possible?
David Torres sure thing. Call me at the shop in a couple of weeks and I’ll send you pics of the options.
Can i do this kit on my 07 roadking?
Can you guys tell me if the bungs for O2 sensors on the header pipe in this kit is 18mm?
David Torres they need to be bored and tapped.
I want this shit on my Fatbob
But if you have a 107 Electra-glide you can't upgrade right? Has to already be a 114?
Alan Levesque we can take the 107 to a 128. We did one in a street glide. Have a video coming on that one in a week or so.
Hi friends, I have a motorcycle review channel in Spanish. I'm Mexican. Could you use part of your video for a review of the new 131 engine?
JOVAS GUERRERO don’t seem why not. What are you looking for?
The cam is a SE 517 cam
K B yep, corrected in the dyno video.my bad...
Put that in an FXDR
HEAVYWALL 70 installed a 124 in a FXDR earlier. S&S motor, Baker trans, Trask chain drive, upgraded brakes. It was a ball to ride.
You should always stay with a build that keeps a customers warranty if not you better let them know before hand and before you do work on there motorcycle that there warranty is void bought a brand new 2018 softail breakout dealership voided my warranty before I put a mile on the bike after a stage 4 install Harley Davidson got me on that stage 4 not this one the numbers are not good for the money
Do you get a credit for the old parts?
Edward mac We will be offering to purchase the parts. Pricing will depend on the mileage on the motor.
about how much does cost
$6000 plus install or you void warranty - Typical Harley
@@snakebite6511 If you buy the crate 131 engine you are looking at $6,200 plus install. The 114 to 131 upgrade kit goes for about half that.
@@hobonickel so as a person who is in the market to buy a 2020 motorcycle i did some checking as i really like the 2020 SGS in Scortched Orange and where i live the upgrade is $4200 and about 15 hours to install so thats another $1500 minimum. bringing my total to $26,000 for the SRS in the colour i want, $4200 for the upgrade and $1500 for install for a tatal of $31,700.
Alternatively i could get the crate motor for $6200 plus $1500 for install bring my total to $33,700; however, i could sell the stock 114 motor for about $2,000 bring my total back to $31,700.
That is probably the best option.
I should be noted that you still require stage 1 exhaust for both option so that another $900.
The final option would be to not buy a Harley SRS and get the 2020 Indian Challenger Dark Horse for $27,999 and save myself at least $4000 and have the same performance and power but more options on the motorcycle.
I have a feeling i will be passing on the Harley.
The kit is 3500... plus an oil pump ($180 )if its not a 2020 and another friction plate (?100)..if its not a 114" and 6 dealers i priced were usually 12-16hrs of labor ....some shops have a no option dyno tune around 280-360...so about 6k maybe 7k if your hd dealer has a higher labor rate
@@snakebite6511 $$$$$$$🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Harley guys
Post the cost of this Top End Rebuild.
Thomas Renfrow this 131 kit installed with everything to meet the H-D warranty requirements totaled $6200. Only part used from the kit was the headbolts and we went with S&S for $100 or so additional.
Sounds awesome!!!!!
@@2007flhx1 Call me tomorrow!
No thanks my 107 is just fine...
MONEY GRAB CHILL PEOPLE STAGE 3 OR 4 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
I wanna see what It makes wtb a real csm
HDstreetshark have a customer with the 131 HD kit, Jims 837 cam, Khrome Werks 2-1 pipe. It turned 150/150
You people do a video but not smart enough to tell people in the background to keep quiet. Wow
James Atkins we try, but still have guys working. We do what we can to time the video when it’s slower.
So with the H-D crate 131" engine i get the same power & performance as the Indian 108.
With the H-D i have to spend $25k on a new Street Glide Special plus $6000 + install for the 131" engine. What is install, another$1500?
Bringing the total cost to $36,600.
Alternatively, i could spend $25k on a 2020 Indian Challenger and spend nothing extra for the motor to get the exact same performance and power as Harley's 131"
Not to mention the Challenger is a more modern engine and the bike itself looks far better.
Hmmm, pretty easy decision for me, my Harley days were gone in 2014 and i see no reason to ever go back to Harley.
If your Harley days are over then why are you even here writing negative paragraphs. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but to come on there there dealership page and only disparage there brand is not cool at all and makes u a troll. These people are just "showing the world" new options. Try keeping your eyes and heart open! Congratulations on your purchase of the challenger!!
Did I upset you? If so, I don’t care.
I am tired of HD and their dealers ripping people off with their substandard dated products
If people actually saw past brand loyalty like I have they would see there are FAR better products ya with better standard features.
Indian, BMW, Triumph
Hell even the Yamaha Eluder is a better bike than the street glide but Harley people are too stupid to see past their over inflated HD logo
@@snakebite6511 Trolls don't get under my skin. There is lots of cool shit in this world, and alot of different manufactures making those vehicles and products. To me it doesn't matter what u ride or what you have. If those other manufactures have cool shit and are doing cool shit then you should make a youtube vid about them and I would watch your video. Then I might become more interested in them. Then we could have a discussion on your page about all the cool sweet stuff there doing.
I can see me getting this kit down the road
Well said.
Harley Davidson REALLY missed the boat in my opinion. The 131" should come stock on ALL of their CVO bikes. After all, you're spending 40+ grand on a "Hot rod bike", SHOULDN'T IT COME ALREADY FACTORY INSTALLED??? Just goes to show how disconnected The Motor Company really is from their customers.
Kenneth Wise that has been a discussion around the shop for weeks. Our guess is HD will roll it out in CVO products and possibly a special edition touring series first.
@@2007flhx1What a damn shame. Sorry to hear that, its really a black eye in my opinion and is a direct reflection of how bad the leadership is currently at the Motor Company. Matt Levatich really needs to step down and let someone else get in there and square that place away. I keep telling Matt Laidlaw that he needs to step into the Corporate world and make a run at it because he knows what the people want. Matt Levatich is absolutely clueless... Sorry for the rant, its just that I'm passionate about HD and want to see them succeed but then they go and do stuff like this, Typical...
Kenneth Wise I didn’t mind that rant. I assure you that our store sure wants to see this engine rolled out to the customer base. I can’t believe they would spend the money they did to develop these motors and not roll them into a bike. Years of time invested it the R&D, surely it will happen. That’s my optimism showing. Enjoyed this conversation with you. I can tell you share a passion for the products.
@@2007flhx1 Yes Sir, I'm extremely passionate about these bikes. I've ridden nothing but HD's my entire life and have amassed roughly 500,000 miles on these great machines. For what its worth I have heard of a few dealerships offering the Stage IV free with purchase which I feel should be done across the board. That would REALLY help bolster sales in a time when you guys really need it the most.
Kenneth Wise if you read the details about the “free” motors, you may find the dealers are showing the prices with the motor included. So a $25k msrp bike will be selling for $30k. (Just an example) Also for these motors it kits to carry the full warranty they must be installed by a dealer. Just some info that isn’t really said in those ads. Or at least the ads I’ve seen.
Can you use a better looking bike the butt ugly road glide I sure in the hell not buying one of those you may be able to sell it to me in a street glide
Don Bertling we did the 128 in a street glide. Have a video coming up on it.
@@2007flhx1 neahhh....we want to see Low Rider or Fat Boy or the Fat Bob
Valentin Marin we are talking with a customer for a Fatboy 131. Will use Powervision as the tuner. If it happens we will shoot a video and post Dyno numbers.
All that $$$ to build a faster boat anchor!!! WHAT A WASTE ! spend it on gas and ride more !!!😎😎😎