they actually can. Not uncommon to have them in a hotel and not have no phones, internet, no tv, no papers, just the media they select. This is what they did in the oj case. So not impossible.
Yes there is, it's called sequestration. The judge is at fault here in such a public case. I'm not expecting him to punish himself for not doing the obvious.
And? Edit:. I may be changing my mind on this... I can't fully defend "get confrontational". But these jokers claiming Trump DIDN'T incite violence clearly have serious blinders on.
@@amandaspear6148 where did she call them to violence? Her specifically? And if you're so against that kind of thing I'm sure you're against Trump inciting the capital insurrection too right?
@@dragonflyz7211 it has happened. The judge admonished a press representative for using her phone camera on the 2nd day and threats/vandalism carried out against a defense witness. You think nobody has a list of jurors yet? It wouldn't surprise me if jurors that vote guilty out any potential jurors that considered not guilty verdict.
Now? Mankind has only ever had, and will forever always only have, an illusion of Justice. Everything pertaining to justice from our perspective is opinion, from "evidence"(including video) to "eye" witness testimony. All of it is tainted and skewed by whatever meaning we give it, beforehand(bias and prejudice) or in the moment(again biased by any given persons personal perspective in real time). Hence everyone's "testimony"(whether few or many coincide and to what degree they agree) isn't truth, it's just "their" truth and is therefore just "opinion". We all just agree that as soon as several people report the same(close enough) "facts" that that constitutes probability and can therefore be relied upon to enforce our "justice". We will never come to the point where we know enough about any particular event to be able to really claim that we know "justice" was served. But we feel better when we claim to have done so. And people with biased opinions(to either side) are the first to feel smug about it. Get over it(society), you don't know enough.
Actually, it has always been like this throughout history. I'm pretty sure we are at the awareness stage of this. In 50-100 years, then we will change this problem that humans have. Otherwise, I don't see us surviving because the internet will reveal this flaw in all of us, very bluntly
@@jackkingsby116 I never implied or said he was innocent or guilty. I rely on the judicial system to serve its intended purpose. My comment was directed at the system as it stands today, not the outcome of any one case. It just so happens that it is very sensational to focus on black vs. white cases, and the majority of the people on the sidelines go for the shiny lure as such as opposed to focusing on how the system itself may have failed. For example, why on this Earth did the Judge think for one minute that not sequestering the Jury was a good idea? Jury instructions had a good chance of being followed 25+ years ago when only radio, TV, and print media. Now it's smartwatches, smartphones, text messaging, email, and all of the earlier platforms I mentioned. It is possible and somewhat probable that at least one Jury member may have come into contact with outside information related to the case. Plus, politicians weighing in on desired outcomes before deliberation is appalling at the very least, if not grounds for abuse of power and influence. As I said initially, this was a showcase and a parade for the people and not about allowing the judicial system to do its job. After all, if we tamper with the system, deviate from its intended purpose, violate defacto rules, then this prevents the feedback all systems, judicial or otherwise, need to lead to improvements.
Remember the days in school when we learned that the jurors will be sequestered during a trial and deliberation especially if it's a high profile??- AND it was actually true. We need to bring those days back.
@@dorothyrolison1761 Exactly! I always thought that it was a federal thing nation wide that there was no influence in the courtroom. But now, either I guess each state does it different *OR* it is a federal thing and they just didn't have a legal trial- which in that case, would invalidate the whole thing. Even in my state, when the Congress woman Gabrielle Giffords got shot, the assailant had the trial in other state, in order to avoid as much outside influence as possible, _AND_ it was such high profile. The defendant was given the sentencing back in our state though.
The judge might have done this on purpose. To give derek chauvin a chance at a mistrial. He even mentioned it. If there is that possibility. Why take the chance? Just sequester the jury. The judicial system is based on structure and specific procedures. It's important to follow them. Not to leave any thing at chance. And this is what the judge did at trusting the jury.
The fact that this judge refused to sequester the jury from the beginning is astonishing. This is perhaps the highest-profile criminal trial in decades.
Yeah. The judge made a huge mistake and will be talked about for years and used as an example of what not to do. Not what I would want to be remembered for.
@@doom2avatar I agree that it was a long trial and no one on the jury would enjoy it. But the global prominence of this case is absolutely unprecedented in recent history. The risk of jury interference was very, very high.
Seriously why do they need to be sequestered? Their have been high profile trials in the past where the jury was not sequestered, I heard no complaint. Oh that’s right this guy is a Caucasian police officer who was caught red-handed. And a corrupt officer caught red-handed going to prison we can’t have that Now can we, I mean if we do that other police officers will realize the law applies to them as well as citizens. Oh the humanity 😱
@@cantdeal of course they didn't. They're parroting what they hear instead of putting in research, treating their feelings as fact, and living in their delusional tangential reality
I get the jury should've been sequestered, but what would moving to a new location do? It would still be televised. It would still be all over the news. This case is being watched worldwide.
This case is so publicized I don’t know how you could even find a juror that hasn’t been influenced by the news media people… And also might be afraid of what would happen to them and their families if they came up with anything other than a guilty charge
I equate that to asking for a change of venue for this case. They don't exactly know they're going to be called for jury duty. So we have to assume that they've already been exposed to different media coverage & the scrutiny that winds up there. There's only so much that can be done, a jury member is going to still have their own personal thoughts & feelings while sitting on a jury. It's almost unavoidable.
It wont be just Brooklyn center. It will be the whole metro area. BLM was in Hudson Wisconsin Saturday on the first over pass. Stillwater was full of protesters. MLPS and St. Paul will be on fire too. This will not be for the faint of heart.
@@timothypeterson59 Lets be honest, America deserved what it gets now. Should have invested more effort into raising decent youth. People just enjoyed life and all sorts of vices, lived carelessly and then they suddenly wonder that millennials' and not just millennials' brains ended up being made of mashed potatoes of M&Ms.
@@user-mb3dx5fl9f well yes and no, I agree it’s to late in some respects but I’ve always believed we all are products of our environment. There are some really great millennials. Want to pursue the American Dream. This is all a bad movie the media has spun and yes there a lot of gullible idiots.
@@timothypeterson59 Yeah dude. It's dead. And it's gonna get real bad real fast. Actually it's already getting real bad real fast. It's pretty much like Germany that was a super developed intellectual country in 1910 and in 1940 people were burning other people alive. Or Russia that was like the intellectual powerhouse or Europe in 1910 and in 1935 people were executed en masse and starved to the extent they were eating one another. America is like pretty much dead. All these fancy laws and rights and amendments mean nothing when there is no guarantee that they are enforced. So essentially America now is like a gorilla with a grenade. Cuz that's a savage nation with lots of technical capabilities aka a recipe for some kind of disaster.
The judges answer was that he instructed the jury to not watch the news. Wow....sure went the extra mile to secure justice for one of the most controversial trials of this century! Un-freaking-real.
Regardless of what trial, what happened and to who, if the jury feels threatened by outside forces to not vote one way or another then a mistrial needs to be declared and the outside forces need to be charged with obstruction of justice.
@Kelly McDaniel One a mistrial doesn't just occur from a hung jury, it can also occur if there is a serious procedural error or misconduct that would result in an unfair trial. You are right however on the grounds that after a verdict you can't declare a mistrial but would have to appeal and overturn the verdict. However, I'm arguing that the judge shouldn't have overturned the mistrial motion and Waters should be charged with obstruction of justice and/or jury tampering.
“Congresswoman’s opinion really doesn’t matter a whole lot.” AND they were instructed not to let outside sources affect their decision. There should be consequences for jurors or jury if they did not follow the court’s instructions
I do not believe the jury is unaware of the danger they are in. The prosecution here knows exactly what they are talking about. They just don't want to admit it.
@Lower Michigan - NO ONE in that jury would vote not guilty even if anyone truly believed he was not guilty, they would be too terrified. They "know" they and their families would have a target on their back. They'll come back with a guilty verdict regardless. Was no way he could get a fair trial, but most definitely this was a case where the jury absolutely should have been sequestered. If this kind of case doesn't call for a jury being sequestered then I don't now what does.
@@kimkulesa3041 Why is that though? They been getting away with this for the longest why would now be any different? All those other cases had jurors too and they voted not guilty.
@Rob Smith So Floyd eating all those drugs and the lethal dose levels don't give you any reasonable doubt? He couldn't breathe when he was first being put in the car. Being arrested was a big deal for him, probably had his anxiety out of control. Not being able to breathe could have been a combination of the drugs and the anxiety. But no doubt?? I feel for the jurors knowing they are not free to speak their mind, but I'm being a few will stand strong and not convict of the higher charges.
If I had been on the jury, I would have voted to convict him to keep from more business being destroyed and people killed. One man in jail for a time would be worth it. Is that justice? I think it's the right thing for the country.
@@robertdouglas8895 I hope this is a joke. If it isn’t then it is frightening you can vote, sit on a jury or even drive your car you amoral psychopath.
The Lawyer makes a good point. There is basically no way to avoid media attention unless you stay off the internet and other apps that people use all the time and you couldn't know even if they did that.
Pretty sure the judge knew what he was doing regarding the-instructions given to the jury. He already knew the verdict at the beginning of the trial. My opinion he was giving the defense a legitimate back door to set the officer free.
No it's not, and that's a good thing. There's a reason why people on social media have nothing to do with the presentation of the trial and the actual sentencing. To believe that it is a "trial by social media" is moronic or hyperbole.
@@flacocastro4233 Unfortunately, it would seem that the majority of American people don't understand the criteria for a conviction. The majority with an opinion have not listened to every single piece of evidence in the case and are basing their opinions solely on the video footage. The amount of misinformed comments just on these CZcams videos is quite astounding.
I know, right? It’s a double edged sword. You expect the jury to stay honest and not watch these programs as instructed. Those are the basic tenants in which you hope their verdict is founded.
Would be curious to see what notes he is taking and why? He's doing it constantly yet he didn't want to speak in his trial, so none of his notes came to use 🤨 Best explanation I can think of is to keep his nerve...
@@marshawnblack9953 yes, but different people may want what *they* perceive as justice. The verdict could clash with some, regardless of a conviction or acquittal.
You know the video so kind of show George Floyd looking like he was on drugs screaming I can't breathe before he was even on the ground and then asking to be put on the ground
This case is a powder keg... and if this guy somehow gets to walk away after a guilty verdict... it's going to shatter any hopes of repairing trust between the authorities and the people they serve.
@Bob Dob so, do you have solutions? I think efforts on the local/state level in many locations are making incremental changes. Reason, people are talking about it, so that discussion can happen.
@@dnikkithatsame5990 When entire communities are mis-parented or not parented at all and are inculcated from a young age with an entitlement mentality they only become interested in becoming professional victims for life. Justice does not matter to these people. They worship at the altar of envy, jealousy, and the endless quest of Government "freebies".
@@bobdob6612 "You people" Lol. There was a reference to TV shows talking about the case. The ones I mentioned made a big deal about the case in their weekly show.
@@jillgarittagoatgirl-expose2759 It won't all be over. That's a pipe dream. The end goal is destruction of our system. There's a new case almost daily of human beings making bad decisions and those human beings wear badges. I honestly don't have an opinion on this case, because I wasn't a juror. I didn't see all of the testimony. Public opinion has no place in the courtroom. Legislative members making comments about a case is in direct conflict with the separation of powers. Destruction of people's property, lives, and our cities is not the answer. All this does is divide us further. The end result is a tyrannical dictatorship in which people will be removed from society forever if there's any disagreement with authority. Why can't people see that? This isn't the first time this social experiment has been tried with regards to a Republic. The major difference lies only with how the people were treated during the other attempts. Rather than slavery being abolished, it was embraced and promoted. We have all the hallmarks in our own society with few exceptions. The world will not care when we fall. No one will care except those of us which aren't in the 1% which includes everyone commenting here. Yet for some reason, people continue to think that social justice is the answer. It isn't, voting is. Systems of merit are the answer not systems of entitlement and burdens placed on all of society. This entire movement is a burden on all of society at a time when adding burdens is not the answer as we already have more burdens than we can handle. Use your brains folks not your feelings.
This has instilled fear in the jurors and this should be a mistrial. Most likely will be in fear of harm to them or their family members meaning the jury.
The case was to open in public. That’s all that you hear about. Maxine Waters is obnoxious. She has no compassion and is full of hate. She is a instigator and loves to go against the rules. Time for her to go.
@@brandonharper2421 he did what? Show him breathing and talking and making sentences? Show that the knee pressure was more on the back and shoulderblades?
The "Powers that be" want to destroy the city of Mpls. If Chauvin is aquited, all the all the more destruction....they are happy with that outcome...ask Jacob Frey - Mayor of What was MPLS.
The media was all over this case prior to it being in court and a jury is supposed to be of your peirs therefore sequestering of the jury is costly and pointless considering all the facts and evidence that was on the news in the beginning
@@Jennifer-jq7gj The Jury is prohibited from all public interactions, be it interactions with non-court members to all forms of media that may offer external influences upon the Jury's decision.
Or, you know, the evidence was clear that Chauvin was guilty. Not everything is a conspiracy. You need to unplug from Fox News before what's left of your brain leaks out of your ears.
You would have to go to Mars to find somebody who hasn’t heard about this case. It’s impossible to find somebody who hasn’t seen on social media information regarding this case
It shouldn't matter how much media coverage this got. All of us are a jury of peers so if the public deems him guilty from information we received from the media them he's guilty by a jury of his peers.
they will continue to throw things on the wall, but the only thing sticking is these charges. we will be there for any appeals etc...we are watching..always
Chauvin KILLED GEORGE FLOYD and that is all that matters Congress women has freedom of speech by what she said if these killings dont stop more needs to be done . She was not inciting violence. Trump incited the VIOLENCE at the Capitol building but nothing has been done to him. But now they want to try and FREE a KILLER because of what a person in Congree says the jury probably should have been sequestered but it wasn't, so don't try to us what some body says to INFLUENCE a not guilty VERDICT ON APPEAL CHAUVIN is GUILTY it has always been excepted when a caucasian kills a African American man this killing of unarmed MEN has to STOP.
@@reginasims9997 - maybe you should start watching your own community then ? As a white person i don’t want white cops having to show up and deal with black disputes. How about you police your own neighborhoods and leave us the uck out of your problems? You deal with it so we don’t have to keep hearing it. Chauvin got called there by people in your community.. Call your own people next time and leave us out of it please. Thanks 👍
Just goes to show how this lady “elected official” water knows nothing about the rule of law or the constitution. CZcams won’t let me comment my true thoughts on her, but you can take it into your own imagination.
Any thing to get this killer off. Black life is so cheap. Look at the amount of money spent to save a Sadistic Killer . Caught on so much cameras. Yet he still trying to get off. People are free to talk. They have noting to do with the case.
@@moses24091 they're perfectly allowed to Express their freedom of speech and I never contested that. But it does taint the jurors who should have been sequestered and gives the defense grounds for a mistrial
@@tracyleighbasham he was illustrating a point...that point being to just tell someone something doesn't mean they'll do it. But since you used an emoji I guess you already had that figured out. C'mon man
@@cheesegreezy9860 but the point is flawed logic, it's a false equivalency. If the judge advises the jury to not allow media to influence their decision and refrain from watching it, that is in no way comparable to asking a criminal not to commit a crime.
Let's hope so. What she did is criminally irresponsible. Her actions are well below the standards of a public official. She is from California and has no business in another states business.
@@kellysiefkas9595: I find it odd that the country is called the ‘united’ states and yet is the most disunited country on the planet. Your assertion that an American has no right to comment on something happening in their country simply because they’re geographically separated by some arbitrary lines on a map is strong evidence of a mindset that there is actually no such thing as the ‘united’ states.
Rumour has it that Chauvin doesn't want an acquittal; he wants to stay locked up for years where it's safe. If he walks won't he be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. If he sees his own shadow out of the corner of his eye he'll probably be petrified thinking it's a black person trying to get revenge. 🤣 He will not know any peace.
@@realitybites6562: Haha, you might be right but Mr Chauvin is a cop facing prison time. If he goes to prison he will have to grow two more eyeballs so he can look over both shoulders at the same time. On the outside his scary shadows will be black. On the inside they will be both black and white. I think he’ll be happier on the outside.
@@rayray8687 you're absolutely right. There will be lots of black people waiting on the outside looking to give Chauvin a warm and friendly welcome back into society. Just release him today and you'll see. My mistake 🤣🤣🤣 Good day. No need to reply. Lol
They always talk about jurors getting influenced by media while being part of the jury pool, BUT NEVER talk about how potential future jurors (like you and me) get influenced by the media before we ever get selected to be part of a case.
@@wimsickle6173 btw, I realized I didn’t emphasize my first response to you with: It’s the brainwashing of the public via media with public cases that makes jurors naturally presume that the defendants are guilty and need to fight an uphill to prove their innocence. So, when they are constantly bombarded with the “guilty until proven innocent” subliminal messages by the media in public cases, they take that mentality and apply it to the less famous/ not famous cases.
Maxine Waters spent more time in Minnesota this week, then she has representing her district in LA. I guess the issues of poverty, crime, economics and the poor education issues of her district in LA, take a back seat to a protest in another state. Shows you how much she cares about LA (hardly ever seen in her district).
Maxine spends more time in her district but most politicians. She has the right to go to Minnesota just like anyone else. Why do I care what someone does for one week or a few days here and there?
What if, just what if...the judge didn’t sequester, knowing it’d be the ticket for a successful appeal? Also, what if, just what if...the judge sent Chauvin to jail for Chauvin’s own protection?
@G Bogart I don’t have a clue; that’s why I posed it as a question. You know...they call it “conjecture”. But what I do have a clue about is 6th grade level English. The ellipsis is 3 dots. Your numerous dots indicate an addled mind and a complete lack of elementary education. Carry on, oh wise one.
@C Arch yeah I get it not being a thing he may use. What I was getting at is it’s almost like he doesn’t even know social media exist, at all. That was my personal impression from this video.
Thanks, Maxine. This is what happens with no congressional term limits. Politicians get too comfortable and rusty- they don't feel they need to stay up-to-date / sharp and end up causing tremendous harm, such as what we're about to see.
But she needed to tell people to be outraged over an ongoing trial that they would have been outraged about anyways in the hypothetical question she was answering so she can be seen as a leader of a movement.
@@jonathanlarson6684 sorry the sarcasm didn’t come through. I think her comment was absolutely idiotic where “I don’t comment on an ongoing case” would have been a totally acceptable answer. Does she really think she needed to say this? Like she’s telling people to be outraged if he’s found not guilty and she thinks people need HER to tell them how to react? Absolutely unnecessary- self righteous.
I think he has a good point about the jury not being sequestered. Sadly. And I can't help but wonder if that "over sight" wasn't a little gift to Chauvin.
@@jonnyenough1531 The jury was selected by both the prosecution and the defense over the course of two weeks. So now those who disagree with the verdict are going to blame the jury. I loved the look in prisoner Chavin's eyes as the verdicts were read.
it wasnt a gift. you can thank aunties small brain to letting this bad man escape justice. dont blame anyone else. its ironic that a black woman is responsible for a black victim not getting justice. it was open and shut case now its an injustice
Exactly! Who would risk saying 'not guilty' in front of the whole country. I mean, think of it. They would have to hide for the rest of their lives. The case was decided before the trial even started.
@@realtd8666 the case wasn’t unjust, they’re jurors who did their duty, i fear that you radical fascist will hurt them for their verdict. since you guys are also a mob lol ;). you see we can make the same argument as you Neanderthals, i just hope you lunatics wont hurt these jurors for their verdict.
That's true but when you change the game and throw gas on a fire, to excite people to turn against anyone who votes for him, then you make it impossible for anyone outside of that jury to believe any verdict they pass down, because of the intimidation. It was bad enough, but she's really put the screws to the entire issue.
This opportunity might have shifted the balance to guilty. There is no "social penalty" for that verdict thus people who were inclined to vote guilty would have been more prepared to join the Jury.
@@MWWick at least 4 people on the jury are activist types due to their own statements about the police and justice system being racist (this also reveals they don't have a fact or evidence oriented mind), they didn't accept being a juror because of duty but because they wanted to influence the outcome based on prejudice and politics. That's just the jurors dumb enough to open their mouth and reveal their bias. Reviewing the jury pool it's pretty clear they weren't interested in a "jury of peers", and considering the racial component of this trial I find it shocking that the jury is packed with "POC" and single mothers, demographics with very predictable politics and views and those with children more susceptible to intimidation and fear.
To the State: Are you Out Of Your Mind?! It is Absolutely Impossible for jurors to remain impartial and untainted by media & technology, Regardless of the jury's intent to to avoid said influences. They should have been sequestered from the Beginning!
So...the judge is to be trusted, but the jury is not?? Why do we have juries if we believe they're too dumb to not be "influenced" by the media? We should just let our super smart judges decide all cases. smfh
I would be so scared if I was a juror in this case. I'd rather serve the consequences if refusing to be a juror than risk my life for a case like this.
@@desmonddinkins182 yeah but u gotta think about it. People who think he is innocent will not agree with that and if they find a member of the jury they may harm the juror in some way. Same if he is found innocent alot more people, especially black people, will again cause riots and go after the jury. So it is a lose lose situation for the jury despite their decision if anyone finds out who they are, them and their families are in danger
There are many reasons that appeals will work to get Chauvens time in jail decrease. If the public wanted him to be judged and punished correctly the jury should of been sequestered. It was only 10 days.
I for one really wish that people could understand that the people on the hill (Capitol hill) and the media are the reason why we're all divided and fighting amongst ourselves while they continue to insight division and hatred on both sides. What we need right now is to start standing together no matter what your political beliefs may be and show the powers that be, that we're all tired of being manipulated by politicians and media to hate the other side and what we don't realize is that we're all in the same boat and for the most part we want the same things. I just wish that people would realize that they aren't really that different from their counterparts on the other side.
We all ready know when he appeals it he will get off because he wasn't breathing heavy at all I also believe this was all just a show to keep riots from happening.
she didn't do anything, chauvin's unethical lawyer is grasping at straws because he knows he is going to lose and is trying everything possible no matter how unlikely to try and win still.
No what happened on the Jan 6th was a declaration and threat. She made a statement and the whole statement was factual. This mess is no longer going to be tolerated and our voices will be louder. Confrontation doesn't mean violence in protest unlikely the terrorist on Jan 6th who stormed D.C.
"Can't let vague statements be allowed" she specifically said if there's anything but guilty to be more confrontational! The state attorney is full of it.
Examine Your Thoughts, maybe you should do as your CZcams name implies with your responses. Seems anything that doesn’t align with your opinion is racist.
Juries aren't normally sequestered in multiday trials. So I definitely wouldn't say any other case... there has to be a brightline. Obviously this case was far beyond the line where they should have been sequestered immediately, but I seriously doubt, without specific statements from the jurors about taint that this judge will grant a mistrial.
@@stephenpettyjohn8624 I don't believe that'll be the case either, I think he'll be convicted and I can't say I disagree. But as far as Kim Potter goes- they rushed an unfit charge to push an agenda. And that's where all juries in all of these cases need to be sequestered bc you will NEVER have true justice with the the influence of the Lamestream Misledia and the radical Demonrats..
@@JoeyAgzBDA Eh I think a mistrial is the most likely outcome. There's so many reasons that a unanimous decision will be difficult. Racal issues, fear of verdict/acquittal setting off looting, a juror willing to hardline defend on the drug/exhaust info like many have in the comments. A hung juror leading to mistrial or a juror admitting during deliberations to taint both seem like pretty likely outcomes. As for Kim Potter, them charging fast to calm the public to extent does not necessarily mean a corrupt grand jury. She is almost certainly guilty of "gross negligence leading to a death", manslaughter definitions vary state to state so I'm not sure if that is the correct charge. But dosen't surprise me they put an indictment in place quickly as it can always be changed by the state later.
He had a year to prepare for this and his lawyer probably told him last week that if the jurors comeback early, it’s not going to be good. Yes he can appeal and maybe get it overturned but the sentence still stands for now.
@@jerrywatson6096 you can continue being blindfolded and listen to mainstream media have fun with that... And why do yall automatically assume someone who doesnt go along with the "agenda" voted for trump?
Not sequestering the jury was the biggest blunder.
not complying with the cops was.
I agree. It was incredible the Trial was not moved to another location and the Jury was not sequestered.
The jury wasn’t sequestered?!
Why not???
@@TinkerTailorSoldier1 I know. I assumed it was
Judge looks like Michael McDonald from MAD TV.
There is NO way that the jurors can stay away from outside influence in this day and age.
they actually can. Not uncommon to have them in a hotel and not have no phones, internet, no tv, no papers, just the media they select. This is what they did in the oj case. So not impossible.
SNL was one of the shows that commented on this trial.
Especially not when it’s a congresswoman making such statements in the middle of a mob seeking mob justice.
Yes there is, it's called sequestration. The judge is at fault here in such a public case. I'm not expecting him to punish himself for not doing the obvious.
Yes there IS a way...it's called sequestration, WITHOUT outside influence of any sort.
However, that was not done in this case.
We live in a world where we can physically see an hear these things on multiple devices yet have no evidence anything was done or said. Mind boggling
My thought exactly lol
Saying, "We will get _More_ confrontational," during the course of a riot and violence, sure seems to be pretty direct and threatening to me!
The best part is Maxine requested a police escort throughout the anti-police protests where she made the comments.
And?
Edit:. I may be changing my mind on this... I can't fully defend "get confrontational". But these jokers claiming Trump DIDN'T incite violence clearly have serious blinders on.
@@sledgecorp and hipocracy is gross, Troll. Calling others to violence is doubly so.
As she should, she pays them to do their job, murdering people isn't on the list.
@@amandaspear6148 tell that to people on jan 6
@@amandaspear6148 where did she call them to violence? Her specifically?
And if you're so against that kind of thing I'm sure you're against Trump inciting the capital insurrection too right?
The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning.
I agree im shocked they were allowed to watch tv.
The entire trial should have been closed to the media from the beginning. They've been trying to dox the jurors and witnesses from the beginning.
@@mickpratt8327 it hasn't happened yet and that doesn't make their decision regarding the case a factor. It's private.
@@dragonflyz7211 it has happened. The judge admonished a press representative for using her phone camera on the 2nd day and threats/vandalism carried out against a defense witness. You think nobody has a list of jurors yet? It wouldn't surprise me if jurors that vote guilty out any potential jurors that considered not guilty verdict.
@@mickpratt8327 I'm saying it hasn't reached the public. That's a dox.
It seems we live in an era now where the illusion of justice is more important than the practice.
Now? Mankind has only ever had, and will forever always only have, an illusion of Justice. Everything pertaining to justice from our perspective is opinion, from "evidence"(including video) to "eye" witness testimony. All of it is tainted and skewed by whatever meaning we give it, beforehand(bias and prejudice) or in the moment(again biased by any given persons personal perspective in real time). Hence everyone's "testimony"(whether few or many coincide and to what degree they agree) isn't truth, it's just "their" truth and is therefore just "opinion". We all just agree that as soon as several people report the same(close enough) "facts" that that constitutes probability and can therefore be relied upon to enforce our "justice". We will never come to the point where we know enough about any particular event to be able to really claim that we know "justice" was served. But we feel better when we claim to have done so. And people with biased opinions(to either side) are the first to feel smug about it. Get over it(society), you don't know enough.
You're just now opening your eyes. Black men are sent to prison every day for nonviolent crimes. He isn't an innocent man.
Actually, it has always been like this throughout history.
I'm pretty sure we are at the awareness stage of this. In 50-100 years, then we will change this problem that humans have.
Otherwise, I don't see us surviving because the internet will reveal this flaw in all of us, very bluntly
@@jackkingsby116 I never implied or said he was innocent or guilty. I rely on the judicial system to serve its intended purpose. My comment was directed at the system as it stands today, not the outcome of any one case. It just so happens that it is very sensational to focus on black vs. white cases, and the majority of the people on the sidelines go for the shiny lure as such as opposed to focusing on how the system itself may have failed. For example, why on this Earth did the Judge think for one minute that not sequestering the Jury was a good idea?
Jury instructions had a good chance of being followed 25+ years ago when only radio, TV, and print media. Now it's smartwatches, smartphones, text messaging, email, and all of the earlier platforms I mentioned.
It is possible and somewhat probable that at least one Jury member may have come into contact with outside information related to the case. Plus, politicians weighing in on desired outcomes before deliberation is appalling at the very least, if not grounds for abuse of power and influence.
As I said initially, this was a showcase and a parade for the people and not about allowing the judicial system to do its job.
After all, if we tamper with the system, deviate from its intended purpose, violate defacto rules, then this prevents the feedback all systems, judicial or otherwise, need to lead to improvements.
exspecially when you get killed in the street instead of getting due process....
Remember the days in school when we learned that the jurors will be sequestered during a trial and deliberation especially if it's a high profile??- AND it was actually true.
We need to bring those days back.
Their should not be NO IMFLUENCE IN THE COURT ROOM
@@dorothyrolison1761
Exactly!
I always thought that it was a federal thing nation wide that there was no influence in the courtroom. But now, either I guess each state does it different *OR* it is a federal thing and they just didn't have a legal trial- which in that case, would invalidate the whole thing.
Even in my state, when the Congress woman Gabrielle Giffords got shot, the assailant had the trial in other state, in order to avoid as much outside influence as possible, _AND_ it was such high profile. The defendant was given the sentencing back in our state though.
@@dorothyrolison1761
or in the streets
It was the judges decision to not sequester the jurors so it’s on him.
The judge might have done this on purpose. To give derek chauvin a chance at a mistrial. He even mentioned it. If there is that possibility. Why take the chance? Just sequester the jury. The judicial system is based on structure and specific procedures. It's important to follow them. Not to leave any thing at chance. And this is what the judge did at trusting the jury.
The fact that this judge refused to sequester the jury from the beginning is astonishing. This is perhaps the highest-profile criminal trial in decades.
Yeah. The judge made a huge mistake and will be talked about for years and used as an example of what not to do. Not what I would want to be remembered for.
That's a long and brutal amount of time to sequester a jury.
@@doom2avatar I agree that it was a long trial and no one on the jury would enjoy it. But the global prominence of this case is absolutely unprecedented in recent history. The risk of jury interference was very, very high.
This case should never have been tried in MN... the judge has fallen victim to “all about me” syndrome
OJ WAS way worse lol
Why on earth would the Jury in the extremely high level case not be sequestered? Seriously!
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'BECAUSE, WATERS IS ONE AMONG THEM. ! 🤷♀️ in the same boat 🚢.
It was planned to be this way.
@@justinfoard3322 socially left wing, fiscally and internationally rightwing
Seriously why do they need to be sequestered? Their have been high profile trials in the past where the jury was not sequestered, I heard no complaint. Oh that’s right this guy is a Caucasian police officer who was caught red-handed. And a corrupt officer caught red-handed going to prison we can’t have that Now can we, I mean if we do that other police officers will realize the law applies to them as well as citizens. Oh the humanity 😱
If I was on the jury I would know my life would be in danger those people found out my name and where I lived
Unless their smartphones have been confiscated, then watching the news is exactly what they've been doing this whole time.
@Aaron Jess yep!
I get automatic notifications about it.
@Aaron Jess Did you even actually read the autopsy?
@@cantdeal of course they didn't. They're parroting what they hear instead of putting in research, treating their feelings as fact, and living in their delusional tangential reality
@Aaron Jess What if he had been shot? What is your point?
Awfully suspicious that the jury was not sequestered in an environment as we're experiencing!!
@Cleo C...Also equally suspicious... that there was NO CHANGE OF VENUE...this is just a recipe for disaster.
Like it was planned that way.
@Black Queen that's what I said. They did this on the HONER SYSTEM!? 😳
@@animal482 Honor
Right...
THIS CASE SHOULD OF BEEN MOVED TO ANOTHER AREA AND THE JURY SHOULD OF BEEN SEQUESTORED
I get the jury should've been sequestered, but what would moving to a new location do? It would still be televised. It would still be all over the news. This case is being watched worldwide.
Definitely should NOT have been moved to another area. Law prevents that now. Google it.
* have
*should have
@@Phoenixishot you can move trials
This case is so publicized I don’t know how you could even find a juror that hasn’t been influenced by the news media people… And also might be afraid of what would happen to them and their families if they came up with anything other than a guilty charge
For sure
Correct .
Exactly, and congressman waters should be jailed for inciting violence.
Great point.
You're saying that as if Chauvin was innocent. What difference does it make since he is clearly guilty
I am surprised the jury wasn't sequestered. This has been talked about for a year with information leaking out.
I equate that to asking for a change of venue for this case. They don't exactly know they're going to be called for jury duty. So we have to assume that they've already been exposed to different media coverage & the scrutiny that winds up there. There's only so much that can be done, a jury member is going to still have their own personal thoughts & feelings while sitting on a jury. It's almost unavoidable.
I feel bad for the residents of Brooklyn Center. Regardless of the verdict, they will suffer.
It wont be just Brooklyn center. It will be the whole metro area. BLM was in Hudson Wisconsin Saturday on the first over pass. Stillwater was full of protesters. MLPS and St. Paul will be on fire too. This will not be for the faint of heart.
@@timothypeterson59 Lets be honest, America deserved what it gets now. Should have invested more effort into raising decent youth. People just enjoyed life and all sorts of vices, lived carelessly and then they suddenly wonder that millennials' and not just millennials' brains ended up being made of mashed potatoes of M&Ms.
@@user-mb3dx5fl9f well yes and no, I agree it’s to late in some respects but I’ve always believed we all are products of our environment. There are some really great millennials. Want to pursue the American Dream. This is all a bad movie the media has spun and yes there a lot of gullible idiots.
@@timothypeterson59 Yeah dude. It's dead. And it's gonna get real bad real fast. Actually it's already getting real bad real fast. It's pretty much like Germany that was a super developed intellectual country in 1910 and in 1940 people were burning other people alive. Or Russia that was like the intellectual powerhouse or Europe in 1910 and in 1935 people were executed en masse and starved to the extent they were eating one another.
America is like pretty much dead. All these fancy laws and rights and amendments mean nothing when there is no guarantee that they are enforced. So essentially America now is like a gorilla with a grenade. Cuz that's a savage nation with lots of technical capabilities aka a recipe for some kind of disaster.
If the mob has its way and he gets a long sentence you still think Mnpls will burn?
The judges answer was that he instructed the jury to not watch the news. Wow....sure went the extra mile to secure justice for one of the most controversial trials of this century! Un-freaking-real.
Trial of the century? Not even close
they might as well have john gotti up there staring at the jury in their faces
It's possible the judges intention is to overturn and not make all thr efforts to do so?!
PEACE, WISDOM, FREE THINKING, KINDNESS, LOVE ONE ANOTHER, HUMANITY UNITED, PROSPERITY, HONESTY, GOOD HEALTH
@@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids no, gotti actually could have someone killed.
Regardless of what trial, what happened and to who, if the jury feels threatened by outside forces to not vote one way or another then a mistrial needs to be declared and the outside forces need to be charged with obstruction of justice.
You know the jury was terrified
You don't know that. At all.
@@Sara-hy1kz never claimed that I did. That is for the judicial system to figure out when they have mistrial hearings.
@Kelly McDaniel One a mistrial doesn't just occur from a hung jury, it can also occur if there is a serious procedural error or misconduct that would result in an unfair trial. You are right however on the grounds that after a verdict you can't declare a mistrial but would have to appeal and overturn the verdict. However, I'm arguing that the judge shouldn't have overturned the mistrial motion and Waters should be charged with obstruction of justice and/or jury tampering.
Facts he killed George floyd
“Congresswoman’s opinion really doesn’t matter a whole lot.” AND they were instructed not to let outside sources affect their decision. There should be consequences for jurors or jury if they did not follow the court’s instructions
There is. It is called a mistrial
I do not believe the jury is unaware of the danger they are in.
The prosecution here knows exactly what they are talking about. They just don't want to admit it.
@Lower Michigan - NO ONE in that jury would vote not guilty even if anyone truly believed he was not guilty, they would be too terrified.
They "know" they and their families would have a target on their back.
They'll come back with a guilty verdict regardless. Was no way he
could get a fair trial, but most definitely this was a case where the jury
absolutely should have been sequestered. If this kind of case doesn't
call for a jury being sequestered then I don't now what does.
@Dan K what's the reasonable doubt????
@@kimkulesa3041 Why is that though? They been getting away with this for the longest why would now be any different? All those other cases had jurors too and they voted not guilty.
Exactly. They're being extremely and recklessly disingenuous.
@Rob Smith So Floyd eating all those drugs and the lethal dose levels don't give you any reasonable doubt? He couldn't breathe when he was first being put in the car. Being arrested was a big deal for him, probably had his anxiety out of control. Not being able to breathe could have been a combination of the drugs and the anxiety. But no doubt?? I feel for the jurors knowing they are not free to speak their mind, but I'm being a few will stand strong and not convict of the higher charges.
The judge chose the jury not to be sequestered. That is on him.
I'm sure that was no accident.
Complete BULL 💩
If I had been on the jury, I would have voted to convict him to keep from more business being destroyed and people killed. One man in jail for a time would be worth it. Is that justice? I think it's the right thing for the country.
@@robertdouglas8895 This is yours only reason to convict a murderer ?
@@robertdouglas8895 I hope this is a joke. If it isn’t then it is frightening you can vote, sit on a jury or even drive your car you amoral psychopath.
The Lawyer makes a good point. There is basically no way to avoid media attention unless you stay off the internet and other apps that people use all the time and you couldn't know even if they did that.
Pretty sure the judge knew what he was doing regarding the-instructions given to the jury. He already knew the verdict at the beginning of the trial. My opinion he was giving the defense a legitimate back door to set the officer free.
Exellent idea!!!!
That is a credible assumption.
From beginning to end, this case has been trial by social media.
No it's not, and that's a good thing. There's a reason why people on social media have nothing to do with the presentation of the trial and the actual sentencing. To believe that it is a "trial by social media" is moronic or hyperbole.
How?
Even if it was, thats still fair.. We the American people know what we want.
...and by maxine Waters
@@flacocastro4233 Unfortunately, it would seem that the majority of American people don't understand the criteria for a conviction. The majority with an opinion have not listened to every single piece of evidence in the case and are basing their opinions solely on the video footage. The amount of misinformed comments just on these CZcams videos is quite astounding.
There is no way this jury did not watch or read any media about this trial. This jury should have been sequestered
@a aarons nice strawman wanna come to reality or nah?
I know, right? It’s a double edged sword. You expect the jury to stay honest and not watch these programs as instructed. Those are the basic tenants in which you hope their verdict is founded.
@a aarons this makes no sense
@a aarons Weaaaaaaaak bro, quit simping for Maxine.
@a aarons Did you just make that up? Cause I can’t find any information about judge Cahill stating that in any way.
What other choice did the jurors have? They felt threatened and I’m sure afraid for their lives.
Not felt threatened, were.
Would be curious to see what notes he is taking and why? He's doing it constantly yet he didn't want to speak in his trial, so none of his notes came to use 🤨
Best explanation I can think of is to keep his nerve...
legitimately a judge called the actions of Water abhorrent. I agree.
January 6 21 forgot about that 😁😁😁
Who cares what you agree with? Who the eff are you?
Waters needs to stay out of the court
@@timoutlaw9763 "Fake equivalency" absolutely phony.
0she needs to lose her job
If I was on the jury, I would be afraid for my own safety, and for my family as well. Especially if the verdict isn’t what people want.
What do people want.....justice?
Why people will forget these juries ever existed in a few weeks when something else happens.
@Jenny Smith - your exactly right and exactly why there "will" be a guilty verdict, regardless if any juror/s don't feel that way.
OK , snowflake.
@@marshawnblack9953 yes, but different people may want what *they* perceive as justice. The verdict could clash with some, regardless of a conviction or acquittal.
The realtime street video is the most crucial evidence of what a cop can do on all video recorders.
You know the video so kind of show George Floyd looking like he was on drugs screaming I can't breathe before he was even on the ground and then asking to be put on the ground
Don't hold your breath waiting for any court to actually consider an appeal.
Do you think they won't let him appeal? I feel sure he will and get let go.
@@MrBath1985 75 million Americans believe the election was stolen, yet not a court in the land would hear legal arguments.
Wouldn't that be ironic that Extreme Maxine ends up helping Derek to go free.
Most likely that's all apart of the plan.
It'd be hilarious
That would be hilarious
The US would have acquitted Goebbels and himler too
Don’t stake your hopes on something so WEAK. I see Derek Chauvin tossing salads in the future.
This case is a powder keg... and if this guy somehow gets to walk away after a guilty verdict... it's going to shatter any hopes of repairing trust between the authorities and the people they serve.
@Bob Dob so, do you have solutions? I think efforts on the local/state level in many locations are making incremental changes. Reason, people are talking about it, so that discussion can happen.
@@dnikkithatsame5990 When entire communities are mis-parented or not parented at all and are inculcated from a young age with an entitlement mentality they only become interested in becoming professional victims for life. Justice does not matter to these people. They worship at the altar of envy, jealousy, and the endless quest of Government "freebies".
@@HiroshimaXl "Noooo, you can't just the hecking darks are responsible for their own actions. You're just an incel"
-you
@@attackmaster519 lul wut?
Grey's Anatomy and Station 19, both had very prominent references to this case.
Yes! I watch both weekly. Shonda isn’t afraid to stir up drama around prominent issues, that’s for sure.
@@bobdob6612 "You people" Lol. There was a reference to TV shows talking about the case. The ones I mentioned made a big deal about the case in their weekly show.
This is Us did.
This is gonna get outta control and ppl are gonna end up in real bad shape and that's a shame our society has come to this point.
Only if one particular side doesn’t get their way
This just went from bad to worse
JUST GIVE HIM A GUILTY VERDICT AND THIS WILL ALL BE OVER!!
@@jillgarittagoatgirl-expose2759 It won't all be over. That's a pipe dream. The end goal is destruction of our system. There's a new case almost daily of human beings making bad decisions and those human beings wear badges. I honestly don't have an opinion on this case, because I wasn't a juror. I didn't see all of the testimony. Public opinion has no place in the courtroom. Legislative members making comments about a case is in direct conflict with the separation of powers. Destruction of people's property, lives, and our cities is not the answer. All this does is divide us further. The end result is a tyrannical dictatorship in which people will be removed from society forever if there's any disagreement with authority. Why can't people see that? This isn't the first time this social experiment has been tried with regards to a Republic. The major difference lies only with how the people were treated during the other attempts. Rather than slavery being abolished, it was embraced and promoted. We have all the hallmarks in our own society with few exceptions. The world will not care when we fall. No one will care except those of us which aren't in the 1% which includes everyone commenting here. Yet for some reason, people continue to think that social justice is the answer. It isn't, voting is. Systems of merit are the answer not systems of entitlement and burdens placed on all of society. This entire movement is a burden on all of society at a time when adding burdens is not the answer as we already have more burdens than we can handle. Use your brains folks not your feelings.
This has instilled fear in the jurors and this should be a mistrial. Most likely will be in fear of harm to them or their family members meaning the jury.
They should’ve been sequestered and the venue should have been changed. That’s common sense.
Common sense based on what? The entire world saw the video. Members of the jury already made up their kind before being called to assist in the case
UNFORTUNATELY COMMON SENSE IS SOMETHING OUR GOVERNMENT
LACKS BECAUSE DEEP STATE DOES WHAT IT WANTS AND TRIES TO GET AWAY WITH IT.
Did she cause him to place his knee on his throat to be the cause of death we would never be here if it was not for his demonic actions.
Exactly
My friends in Europe know about George Floyd and ask me!!! My family in Mexico knows about it.. The whole world knows about it!
The case was to open in public. That’s all that you hear about. Maxine Waters is obnoxious. She has no compassion and is full of hate. She is a instigator and loves to go against the rules. Time for her to go.
@@joylambert3118 Lord, and let's not forget about the rest of them too. The real problem!
That jury absolutely should have been sequestered. They are human and they are probably watching the news and afraid
Good. He clearly did it and there's 9 mins of video to prove that
@@brandonharper2421 - Yep! Peace.
@@brandonharper2421 You want the jury to be afraid?
@@brandonharper2421 he did what? Show him breathing and talking and making sentences? Show that the knee pressure was more on the back and shoulderblades?
The jurors probably listen to their radios in their cars while they go home.
The judge is surely negligent in failing to sequester this jury in such a public case. This should never have happened.
The "Powers that be" want to destroy the city of Mpls. If Chauvin is aquited, all the all the more destruction....they are happy with that outcome...ask Jacob Frey - Mayor of What was MPLS.
The media was all over this case prior to it being in court and a jury is supposed to be of your peirs therefore sequestering of the jury is costly and pointless considering all the facts and evidence that was on the news in the beginning
What is sequester?
@@Jennifer-jq7gj The Jury is prohibited from all public interactions, be it interactions with non-court members to all forms of media that may offer external influences upon the Jury's decision.
@@jasonvanorsdol1755 thank you for the clarity.
Not sequestering the jury was a very easy way for the judge to decide this case without deciding this case.
Or, you know, the evidence was clear that Chauvin was guilty. Not everything is a conspiracy. You need to unplug from Fox News before what's left of your brain leaks out of your ears.
Does the judge really think that the jury didn't watch the news? Come on. 🙄
And yet all her social media accounts are still active.. No bans when she calls for violence.
LOL
Well... if you know her media accounts and you can find the quote, you should flag them. If enough people do, it will get pulled automatically.
You would have to go to Mars to find somebody who hasn’t heard about this case. It’s impossible to find somebody who hasn’t seen on social media information regarding this case
Constant coverage of the case that put millions of protesters/police onto our cities' streets DURING A PANDEMIC is extremely reasonable.
@@elisevillemaire8344 yeah, cause covering the NEWS is completely crazy.
So what. You've entirely missed the point.
It shouldn't matter how much media coverage this got. All of us are a jury of peers so if the public deems him guilty from information we received from the media them he's guilty by a jury of his peers.
I think they know on Mars also, after all george was such an upstanding citizen that even other planets know of him.
Looks like it will be an interesting appeal.
they will continue to throw things on the wall, but the only thing sticking is these charges. we will be there for any appeals etc...we are watching..always
Chauvin KILLED GEORGE FLOYD and that is all that matters Congress women has freedom of speech by what she said if these killings dont stop more needs to be done . She was not inciting violence. Trump incited the VIOLENCE at the Capitol building but nothing has been done to him. But now they want to try and FREE a KILLER because of what a person in Congree says the jury probably should have been sequestered but it wasn't, so don't try to us what some body says to INFLUENCE a not guilty VERDICT ON APPEAL CHAUVIN is GUILTY it has always been excepted when a caucasian kills a African American man this killing of unarmed MEN has to STOP.
@@shirleyrussell7089 Bots out in full force, huh?
@@reginasims9997 - maybe you should start watching your own community then ?
As a white person i don’t want white cops having to show up and deal with black disputes. How about you police your own neighborhoods and leave us the uck out of your problems? You deal with it so we don’t have to keep hearing it. Chauvin got called there by people in your community.. Call your own people next time and leave us out of it please. Thanks 👍
Just play, non-stop, 96 hours of the gentlewoman's fine statements, coverage by ABCNBCCBSCNNNPRMSNBCBCC, and everyone else...
Just goes to show how this lady “elected official” water knows nothing about the rule of law or the constitution. CZcams won’t let me comment my true thoughts on her, but you can take it into your own imagination.
The judge admitted he watched all the programs that were being referenced. Why would he expect the jury to be any different?
Any thing to get this killer off. Black life is so cheap. Look at the amount of money spent to save a Sadistic Killer . Caught on so much cameras. Yet he still trying to get off. People are free to talk. They have noting to do with the case.
@@joemoe1219 be honest have you seen the entire one hour arrest footage
@@derekperdomo6680 I was glued to tv and every news media the was. Over and over. Those people as Jurors were selected. They came back with something.
@@joemoe1219 more like joe schmo 😆
@@joemoe1219 --Im beginning to think that this is actually a ploy to get him off, which was the WS plan all along...
They can't even leave the courthouse without hearing people screaming about the trial
I dont see that as a problem, you read the 1st amendment lately🤔
@@moses24091 they're perfectly allowed to Express their freedom of speech and I never contested that. But it does taint the jurors who should have been sequestered and gives the defense grounds for a mistrial
@@loger6995 do not forget about Biden. and waters who called for violence if they didn't get the verdict that they wanted
@@joshuaoverlord5327 "but Jan 6 blah blah blah"
@@loger6995 but Trump said peacefully patriotically protest blah blah blah. I'm sorry if you do not understand the word peacefully
This is really pop culture at this point.
Clickbait: Judge -"a congress woman's opinion really doesn't matter a whole lot". Nothing to see here.
It will matter plenty to an Appeals Court hearing the case of a mistrial and inability to provide fair trial conditions.
We all as a Nation need to fall down on our needs to pray. GOD BLESSED AMERICA.
and thats going to fix this mess?
"To be fair, I told them don't watch the news". Brilliant judge. This guy has been on the bench how long?
They tell criminals not to break the law.
So prisons should be empty
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 so, you are comparing citizens preforming their civic duty to criminals and our jury system to prison? Mkay. 🙄
@@tracyleighbasham he was illustrating a point...that point being to just tell someone something doesn't mean they'll do it. But since you used an emoji I guess you already had that figured out. C'mon man
@@cheesegreezy9860 but the point is flawed logic, it's a false equivalency. If the judge advises the jury to not allow media to influence their decision and refrain from watching it, that is in no way comparable to asking a criminal not to commit a crime.
The rule of law assumes that jurors follow the judges instructions
Judge literally told the jury not to watch television. Or elected officials could not make threats.
I hope that's true. The ethics committee needs to kick her out
She just handed this guy in acquittal on a silver platter
Let's hope so. What she did is criminally irresponsible. Her actions are well below the standards of a public official. She is from California and has no business in another states business.
@@kellysiefkas9595: I find it odd that the country is called the ‘united’ states and yet is the most disunited country on the planet. Your assertion that an American has no right to comment on something happening in their country simply because they’re geographically separated by some arbitrary lines on a map is strong evidence of a mindset that there is actually no such thing as the ‘united’ states.
Rumour has it that Chauvin doesn't want an acquittal; he wants to stay locked up for years where it's safe. If he walks won't he be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. If he sees his own shadow out of the corner of his eye he'll probably be petrified thinking it's a black person trying to get revenge. 🤣 He will not know any peace.
@@realitybites6562: Haha, you might be right but Mr Chauvin is a cop facing prison time. If he goes to prison he will have to grow two more eyeballs so he can look over both shoulders at the same time. On the outside his scary shadows will be black. On the inside they will be both black and white. I think he’ll be happier on the outside.
@@rayray8687 you're absolutely right. There will be lots of black people waiting on the outside looking to give Chauvin a warm and friendly welcome back into society. Just release him today and you'll see. My mistake 🤣🤣🤣 Good day. No need to reply. Lol
Any more blood spilled is on her hands. She needs to be removed from office immediately, if not sooner.
Let’s go get her right now. Idiot
I'll trade you one Waters for a Geatz and a Greene.
Absolutely 💯
@@robertway5756 you may need to throw in a congress person to be named later and we may have a deal.
Crybaby
Maxine is living proof that brains, ethics, class, civility, and hard work are not requirements to sit in the U.S. Congress.
Ohh man.
They always talk about jurors getting influenced by media while being part of the jury pool, BUT NEVER talk about how potential future jurors (like you and me) get influenced by the media before we ever get selected to be part of a case.
The idea is that jurors have no idea about the case before they are called to jury duty. Most trials are not as public as this one.
You haven’t watched jury selection have you
Ikr? The only people who haven't been exposed to external biases are are in a coma rn
Well said...
@@wimsickle6173 btw, I realized I didn’t emphasize my first response to you with:
It’s the brainwashing of the public via media with public cases that makes jurors naturally presume that the defendants are guilty and need to fight an uphill to prove their innocence.
So, when they are constantly bombarded with the “guilty until proven innocent” subliminal messages by the media in public cases, they take that mentality and apply it to the less famous/ not famous cases.
Maxine Waters spent more time in Minnesota this week, then she has representing her district in LA. I guess the issues of poverty, crime, economics and the poor education issues of her district in LA, take a back seat to a protest in another state. Shows you how much she cares about LA (hardly ever seen in her district).
Drama chaser..anything for an ounce of attention..eager committment to join a pack of wolfes
Deep rooted need to twirl in any civil right tornado..
Did she go with Cruz to Mexico? 😂 Or was she golfing with Trump?😂😂
@@Anon90210 still haven't seen here in her district even in her millions dollars mansion in LA.
Maxine spends more time in her district but most politicians. She has the right to go to Minnesota just like anyone else. Why do I care what someone does for one week or a few days here and there?
Not true
Judge knew what he was doing...lol. He gave the defence ammunition for appeal multiple times.
What if, just what if...the judge didn’t sequester, knowing it’d be the ticket for a successful appeal?
Also, what if, just what if...the judge sent Chauvin to jail for Chauvin’s own protection?
That's what I was thinking 👍👍👍
@G Bogart - what if you didn’t virtue signal 🤔
Bingo.
@G Bogart I don’t have a clue; that’s why I posed it as a question. You know...they call it “conjecture”.
But what I do have a clue about is 6th grade level English. The ellipsis is 3 dots. Your numerous dots indicate an addled mind and a complete lack of elementary education.
Carry on, oh wise one.
@@bikerbruce1988 You sure showed them, by being a virtue-signalling coward.
Literally the whole world knows about the case and it’s hard not to not be watching the media outlets
It’s almost like the judge doesn’t know Facebook, Twitter, and CZcams is a thing
@C Arch yeah I get it not being a thing he may use. What I was getting at is it’s almost like he doesn’t even know social media exist, at all. That was my personal impression from this video.
Thanks, Maxine. This is what happens with no congressional term limits. Politicians get too comfortable and rusty- they don't feel they need to stay up-to-date / sharp and end up causing tremendous harm, such as what we're about to see.
But she needed to tell people to be outraged over an ongoing trial that they would have been outraged about anyways in the hypothetical question she was answering so she can be seen as a leader of a movement.
@@michaelb9537 if it were Trump you'd call it treasonous. Crazy how people absolutely refuse to admit their side is just as bad as the other.
@@jonathanlarson6684 sorry the sarcasm didn’t come through. I think her comment was absolutely idiotic where “I don’t comment on an ongoing case” would have been a totally acceptable answer.
Does she really think she needed to say this? Like she’s telling people to be outraged if he’s found not guilty and she thinks people need HER to tell them how to react? Absolutely unnecessary- self righteous.
At least the looters and cop killers know she’s “with” them.
USA should learn from the UK parliament, its virtually a criminal offence for any government official to comment on, on going criminal open cases.
The law presumes the jury will be able to shelter their judgement from the influences of threats to their physical safety?!?!?!?!? Ridiculous.
People in office need to watch their mouths and think before they speak!!
VERDICTS:
Guilty: Count 1
Guilty: Count 2
Guilty: Count 3
I think he has a good point about the jury not being sequestered. Sadly. And I can't help but wonder if that "over sight" wasn't a little gift to Chauvin.
Yeah but the state had already paid out to the family so that tainted the jury pool prior to selection
@@jonnyenough1531 The jury was selected by both the prosecution and the defense over the course of two weeks. So now those who disagree with the verdict are going to blame the jury. I loved the look in prisoner Chavin's eyes as the verdicts were read.
@imaseeker100 I hope you eat your words soon. I'll be waiting to know you've been put in your place 😊
it wasnt a gift. you can thank aunties small brain to letting this bad man escape justice. dont blame anyone else. its ironic that a black woman is responsible for a black victim not getting justice. it was open and shut case now its an injustice
@Aaron Jess excuses excuses.
Nope. This is so insubstantial that any such challenge is very likely to be thrown out immediately.
Everything about this trial was unjust.
I could have never been on that jury knowing that my decisions would have been made public.
Exactly!
Who would risk saying 'not guilty' in front of the whole country. I mean, think of it. They would have to hide for the rest of their lives. The case was decided before the trial even started.
@@realtd8666 case was decided after the cop killed the guy..
@@realtd8666 the case wasn’t unjust, they’re jurors who did their duty, i fear that you radical fascist will hurt them for their verdict. since you guys are also a mob lol ;). you see we can make the same argument as you Neanderthals, i just hope you lunatics wont hurt these jurors for their verdict.
@@marcy5269 Settle down Antifa
Don't forget that at jury selection, they excused everyone who didn't want to participate for their own safety
I would have been out for sure. I would want absolutely no part in this.
That's true but when you change the game and throw gas on a fire, to excite people to turn against anyone who votes for him, then you make it impossible for anyone outside of that jury to believe any verdict they pass down, because of the intimidation. It was bad enough, but she's really put the screws to the entire issue.
This opportunity might have shifted the balance to guilty. There is no "social penalty" for that verdict thus people who were inclined to vote guilty would have been more prepared to join the Jury.
I was disappointed when Chuck Norris asked to be excused.
@@MWWick
at least 4 people on the jury are activist types due to their own statements about the police and justice system being racist (this also reveals they don't have a fact or evidence oriented mind), they didn't accept being a juror because of duty but because they wanted to influence the outcome based on prejudice and politics. That's just the jurors dumb enough to open their mouth and reveal their bias. Reviewing the jury pool it's pretty clear they weren't interested in a "jury of peers", and considering the racial component of this trial I find it shocking that the jury is packed with "POC" and single mothers, demographics with very predictable politics and views and those with children more susceptible to intimidation and fear.
To the State:
Are you Out Of Your Mind?!
It is Absolutely Impossible for jurors to remain impartial and untainted by media & technology, Regardless of the jury's intent to to avoid said influences.
They should have been sequestered from the Beginning!
Isn't that the judge's decision though?
So...the judge is to be trusted, but the jury is not?? Why do we have juries if we believe they're too dumb to not be "influenced" by the media? We should just let our super smart judges decide all cases. smfh
Yes Correct. Maybe It's An Added Expense.
Small claims court is Just another way for the Police to get extra money for protecting someone.
It's a Civil Matter
It was definitely the Judges decision and definitely he who said for them to not go by the media or how others feel...
Unfair trail!!
Mad Max has encouraged Violence TWICE... What is her Consequence?
I would be so scared if I was a juror in this case. I'd rather serve the consequences if refusing to be a juror than risk my life for a case like this.
Makes me think they are there either because they want to convict him or they think they could get a pay day out of this. Aka book deal etc.
What risk? I would just tell the truth that hes guilty.
@@desmonddinkins182 yeah but u gotta think about it. People who think he is innocent will not agree with that and if they find a member of the jury they may harm the juror in some way. Same if he is found innocent alot more people, especially black people, will again cause riots and go after the jury. So it is a lose lose situation for the jury despite their decision if anyone finds out who they are, them and their families are in danger
@@deandria4463 exactly. Some people are just not that bright
@@deandria4463 no one will riot if he's found guilty. Only if he's found innocent.
There are many reasons that appeals will work to get Chauvens time in jail decrease. If the public wanted him to be judged and punished correctly the jury should of been sequestered. It was only 10 days.
They purposely made a spectacle of it
While the public may have wanted a proper trial and punishment, the mob would not allow it
Thats the judges fault the public cant make that decision, no worries tho he will have plenty of time to think of some great appeal motions!!
People these days care more about tribalism and political gain than they do about due process.
The jury knew about this case before trial anyway, let him loose he won’t live more than 5 minutes
This lawyer isn't as eloquent as I assumed lawyers would be.
Whoever choose Hennepin county courthouse as the venue location must be fired
And that jury should have been sequestered from the beginning
I had no idea that the jury wasn't sequestered. Why is what I'd like to know!
@a aarons The judge isn't the one that makes the decision on a verdict.
@a aarons You're joking right? Do you unironically believe what you're writing ?
It seems obvious the jury in a high profile case needs to be sequestered.
@a aarons the judge has leaned for the prosecution. Jury should have been sequestered, and trial should have been moved out of the city.
Cause the judge was never planning on making this a fair trial
I for one really wish that people could understand that the people on the hill (Capitol hill) and the media are the reason why we're all divided and fighting amongst ourselves while they continue to insight division and hatred on both sides. What we need right now is to start standing together no matter what your political beliefs may be and show the powers that be, that we're all tired of being manipulated by politicians and media to hate the other side and what we don't realize is that we're all in the same boat and for the most part we want the same things. I just wish that people would realize that they aren't really that different from their counterparts on the other side.
We all ready know when he appeals it he will get off because he wasn't breathing heavy at all I also believe this was all just a show to keep riots from happening.
Forget about the people in the courtroom, why would that lady do that? It undermines anything that might happen.
Because they KNOW it’s a losing case. This is the definition of terrorism. “I want THIS, or else violence.”
Her career is built on race baiting. She is race hustler, that's why.
she didn't do anything, chauvin's unethical lawyer is grasping at straws because he knows he is going to lose and is trying everything possible no matter how unlikely to try and win still.
@@cageybee7221 I am glad you have the insight to know who will win. The fact is the judge agrees that she should have not said anything.
Lady?
“The Judge says a congress woman’s opinion doesn’t mean a whole lot..” But she didn’t opine - she DECLARED and THREATENED!
Maxine should be locked up!
I didn't see it. I'll have to look it up.
free speech
Impeach her
No what happened on the Jan 6th was a declaration and threat. She made a statement and the whole statement was factual. This mess is no longer going to be tolerated and our voices will be louder. Confrontation doesn't mean violence in protest unlikely the terrorist on Jan 6th who stormed D.C.
Kangaroo court! And I should know, I'm watching from Australia.
Greetings from the Divided States of America!
The Prosecution didn't want it (the comments) to potentially risk collapsing the Trial? Resulting in a Retrial?
"Can't let vague statements be allowed" she specifically said if there's anything but guilty to be more confrontational! The state attorney is full of it.
Racist are full of it
I believe this was in reference to the actual quote not being provided in the court room (at that time)
Examine Your Thoughts, maybe you should do as your CZcams name implies with your responses. Seems anything that doesn’t align with your opinion is racist.
She’s not allowed to speak up for what’s right?
You dont influence people to be confrontational you know how it will end.
The fact that the jury wasn't sequestered AT ALL should be motions for an automatic mistrial. Would be that way in ANY other case, period..
Juries aren't normally sequestered in multiday trials. So I definitely wouldn't say any other case... there has to be a brightline. Obviously this case was far beyond the line where they should have been sequestered immediately, but I seriously doubt, without specific statements from the jurors about taint that this judge will grant a mistrial.
@@stephenpettyjohn8624 I don't believe that'll be the case either, I think he'll be convicted and I can't say I disagree. But as far as Kim Potter goes- they rushed an unfit charge to push an agenda. And that's where all juries in all of these cases need to be sequestered bc you will NEVER have true justice with the the influence of the Lamestream Misledia and the radical Demonrats..
@@JoeyAgzBDA Eh I think a mistrial is the most likely outcome. There's so many reasons that a unanimous decision will be difficult. Racal issues, fear of verdict/acquittal setting off looting, a juror willing to hardline defend on the drug/exhaust info like many have in the comments. A hung juror leading to mistrial or a juror admitting during deliberations to taint both seem like pretty likely outcomes.
As for Kim Potter, them charging fast to calm the public to extent does not necessarily mean a corrupt grand jury. She is almost certainly guilty of "gross negligence leading to a death", manslaughter definitions vary state to state so I'm not sure if that is the correct charge. But dosen't surprise me they put an indictment in place quickly as it can always be changed by the state later.
Mistrial!! We all deserve fair due process not loud mouth Max running the justice system!!
Every trial is a media circus lol. Why is everyone acting so shocked?
Maxine Waters WHY would you do something so dumb. You have to know when to be quiet, jeeze. What a horrible horrible mistake
Miss Trial. Max needs to be investigated.
Trump did not incite the rioters.
Who is Miss Trial, and why is she not married
Waters must resign!
The jurors should be flown in from other states and be kept anonymous.
Why wasn’t the trial moved and the jury sequestered in the first place?
This whole situation is beyond revolting.
I told my husband something about this isn't right....derek had no emotion about the reading of the verdict. To good to be true..now this.
So what about it?
He had a year to prepare for this and his lawyer probably told him last week that if the jurors comeback early, it’s not going to be good. Yes he can appeal and maybe get it overturned but the sentence still stands for now.
how wicked can you possibly be????? so because there was so much media coverage, there should be no justice?????!??!?!??!??!???!
Uh she STRAIGHT UP said that if it is not found guilty they need to become MORE confrontational... Plain out THREAT!
SO! What do you call what that Orange Clown you voted for said about the Capital City insurrection?
@@jerrywatson6096 you can continue being blindfolded and listen to mainstream media have fun with that...
And why do yall automatically assume someone who doesnt go along with the "agenda" voted for trump?