Damn, this PS2 version did do the whole "can't take it off easy" thing. Really, it's the best way the black suit switching was implemented in a game. "Sure, you can use the crutch... but you can't take it off". It'd only be better if there was a cost to actually wearing it. Really, that'd be so cool.
There is a downside, but its really noticeable throughout the game. The blacksuit gives Peter a fixed amount of health and a different set of moves. Very helpful early game, a downgrade by the time you maxed out Spidey's upgrades.
3:13-3:45 For those who don't understand what happened at this part: When the grey bar(below the red health bar) reached to the maximum & spidey's fighting skills will become more aggressive & the timer with spider logo will show up at the above of health bar If u don't take off the black suit before the timer reach zero, the screen will turn to black instantly representing spidey is dead or fainted or maybe fully controlled by the symbiote & the "game over" screen message will show up & ask u start over from the last checkpoint or quit the mission when u are in the mission or restart the game when u are in free roam like every time u failed the mission or spidey's health reached zero
@@BigRedBird it could have, but it sounded like Venom wanted to take full-on control of Spider-Man by letting Peter kill Eddy, after fully infecting the city. This is, to me, the reason why the symbiote gave us more free-will in Web Of Shadows, and never tried to control Spider-Man. It was all to make Peter appreciate what the symbiote gives again in order to control him more easily, and make him understand that : " Without the symbiote, you're nothing ".
I can’t believe Spider-Man 3 on the PSP had this simple feature of swapping between the red and black suit in real time. And insomniac couldn’t add that feature on a more advanced hardware.
It’s not that great of a mechanic , it completely halts combat for a quick time event . Insomniacs was done better , it’s just needed a quick swap mechanic so you can use the symbiote , anti symbiote and iron arms abilities in real time
I always felt like the ps2 of Spider-man 3 was just the better game tbh. It wasn't too hard like the ps3 like. I do wish the graphics were on par with the spider-man 2 tho.
How I wish Insomniac had given the suit this much attention to detail in their own game. Would've been so cool to be able to switch to the Symbiote whenever you wanted without needing a meter to do it at any time and being able to use unlimited surge mode and having all of those animations for wanting to switch back into the red suit as well. The map changing would've been sick as well.
This mechanic is such Bulls*it!! The symbiote is supposed to be addictive and Peter just wants it more. Him suddenly remembering to take off the suit is so stupid
@@simaopinto8521 It’s a fun game mechanic that was a top fan requested feature for insomniac sm2, the only reason why people got the ps2 sm3 copy. You can take off the black suit and only have metal spider arms in free roam…you can wear suits from all movies…you can wear animated suits from another dimension... And ur worried about it being “only lore accurate” it’s just a mechanic that adds depth to the gameplay. U don’t know gaming.
God this takes me back. The fight to take off the suit becoming harder and harder as the story goes on. Never got the PS3 version. I'm surprised Spiderman 2 hasn't taken some cues from this game and web of shadows
@@marcsanz3912You mean the Franchise that literally replaced Spider-Man? 😂 Inso(y)mniac's Spider-Cuck 2 is literally garbage compared to this. The only areas the former excels in are the obvious advances of it's time like Graphics, Animation Fluidity (Animations are still inferior quality wise tho as they're all soy) and general fluidity in other mechanics like swinging enemies and stuff around obviously. And before you talk about review scores here's a review from a REAL Gamer. czcams.com/video/PnYPEfhmGlE/video.html And not these "Gaming" Urinalists that modern So(y)ny games like God Of Soy (Plethora of Platforming dumbed down to a button and I don't even need to talk about Kratos' ass camera or repetitive generic Third Person hack and slasher combat with soy execution animations) seem to pander to. czcams.com/video/GV5lNMkn8Ok/video.html Here's one with an Uncle Ben Reference (Gaming is obviously Uncle Ben). czcams.com/video/KseIvCAdnNw/video.html
@@marcsanz3912 yes, bcuz playing woke marvel's spiderman 2 is doing someone a favor. seeing gay pride flags spammed across the city, where spider-man is hooking up gay teens for homecoming party in high schools, flying with pigens in pointless side missions, where u play as mary jane throughout the game for her force stealth missions in the main story when she's just a discount Lois lane and have her as boss fight as scream while removing characters from the source material like Eddie brock and Donna Diego - (the actual scream from the comics/source material) while also play as a deaf girl/miles girlfriend; a black stereotype: promoting vandalism when doing graffiti on other ppl's properties and also having life is strange segments all mashed into the game for filler, to an overprice and overrated ps5 that still looks like late ps3 and ps4. to a game where peter parker spider-man is giving up as spider-man by handing it over to miles, so he can be the new spider-man going forward. the game is ASS and i wasted 10 hrs of my life that i can never get back watching that glitchy, buggy garbage and i love how miles is a gary sue throughout the entire game. shit is a wannabe bee-nox's tasm and edge of time clone and Treyarch's Raimi spider-man, web of shadows & even ultimate spider-man clone as well. overhyped, overrated, uninspired fan fiction "game-verse".
It did not. I get the immerson factor but functionality That would've broke tbe pace of combat from how fast paced it is. The point was for you to have full control of the suit
This version was way better than the PS3. The fact that we can switch suits with a press of a button and do some QTEs was something Insomniac should have implemented in the game. But I do love the Symbiote Surge though. I wonder if it was inspired by the overuse of the black suit but in their version it was to match Kratos' Spartan Rage.
*I just think the campaign of this game is very short, in a single afternoon you complete the story mode* *I would have added more villains and more stages* *You can get the black costume after beating it but it's too boring to try to do so*
Nah, web of shadows has almost none of the features shown in this video (like the need and struggling to take it off or the map changing the more you use it, that happens because of venom in WOS). Also wearing the Black suit in gameplay has no impact on the story decisions in WOS (huge missed opportunity imo). Especially the different animations when you fail taking it off on each stage of the struggle are extremely badass in this game. Sadly they don't work with the collectible Black suit after you finish the game, that one's literally just like WOS, no timer before you put it back on either. Don't get me wrong tho WOS is a great game as well (and also shows an extremely vile version of Black Suited Spider-Man that literally becomes a terrifying villain) but far less cinematic and way more arcadey and has the unrealistic Black Suit abilities from some of the comics instead of the based Combat moves of Spider-Man 3 (that long Headbutt/Kick combo is badass). Overall Spider-Man 3 is better.
Web of Shadows is built on the skeleton of the PS3/Xbox 360 version of Spider-Man 3. WOS was known internally as Spider-Man: RvB. There is a playable build with a few test missions and the shield helicarrier.
I wish they had this type of mechanic in both the ps3 version of spider man 3 and insomniacs spiderman 2 where you had to take the suit of b4 it takes over , was such a chilling thing todo
I love how Peter screams when taking off the suit it’s so fire
The scream is from the symbiote because doesn't want to leave peter's body
It’s not Peter is the Symbiote because it wants to stay in him.
Ayo
@@tanjirokamado2939 the symbiote is grafting itself to Spider-Man its like tearing off a layer of flesh
I love the PS2 version of this game, I'm gald you made this video because no one had one up. The black suit was done really well here.
I Love this Version Much More Than the PC one
Damn, this PS2 version did do the whole "can't take it off easy" thing. Really, it's the best way the black suit switching was implemented in a game. "Sure, you can use the crutch... but you can't take it off".
It'd only be better if there was a cost to actually wearing it. Really, that'd be so cool.
I thought that if you wear it for too long then it starts to slowly drain your HP
@@hoshiryu If you wear it for too long, Peter goes unconscious instead, and that can fail a mission cause it counts as dying.
There is a downside, but its really noticeable throughout the game. The blacksuit gives Peter a fixed amount of health and a different set of moves. Very helpful early game, a downgrade by the time you maxed out Spidey's upgrades.
3:13-3:45
For those who don't understand what happened at this part:
When the grey bar(below the red health bar) reached to the maximum & spidey's fighting skills will become more aggressive & the timer with spider logo will show up at the above of health bar
If u don't take off the black suit before the timer reach zero, the screen will turn to black instantly representing spidey is dead or fainted or maybe fully controlled by the symbiote & the "game over" screen message will show up & ask u start over from the last checkpoint or quit the mission when u are in the mission or restart the game when u are in free roam like every time u failed the mission or spidey's health reached zero
That's cool I barely remember this game.
That's actually a really interesting mechanic I kinda wish web of shadows had something similar to that.
@@BigRedBird it could have, but it sounded like Venom wanted to take full-on control of Spider-Man by letting Peter kill Eddy, after fully infecting the city. This is, to me, the reason why the symbiote gave us more free-will in Web Of Shadows, and never tried to control Spider-Man. It was all to make Peter appreciate what the symbiote gives again in order to control him more easily, and make him understand that : " Without the symbiote, you're nothing ".
@@myu1419 that's actually a really good point
I can’t believe Spider-Man 3 on the PSP had this simple feature of swapping between the red and black suit in real time. And insomniac couldn’t add that feature on a more advanced hardware.
This has nothing to do with hardware dumbass, it’s a design choice.
Really disappointed on that along with the combat not really improving (was kinda hoping we would get more combat like web of shadows.
It’s not that great of a mechanic , it completely halts combat for a quick time event . Insomniacs was done better , it’s just needed a quick swap mechanic so you can use the symbiote , anti symbiote and iron arms abilities in real time
@@phantom3146 just do it how it was done in web of shadows then
@@AustenHilton we don’t just want reskins of previous Spider-Man games because we can just play those instead . Insomniac likes to keep things fresh
I always felt like the ps2 of Spider-man 3 was just the better game tbh. It wasn't too hard like the ps3 like. I do wish the graphics were on par with the spider-man 2 tho.
Spider-Man 2 graphics were laughably bad
@@andrewgarfield9898yeah and 3’s are pretty much the same 3 years later so.
The struggle to take the suit off has always felt so realistic and satisfying like the movie 🔥
It would be crazy if insomniac would bring that switching Symbiote feature in Spider-Man 2 but I doubt it
I really hope they do
You were right. They didn’t.
@@randomisedlol871another reason this was the best Spider-Man
@@jak1oak677 I personally prefer WoS when it comes to the symbiote overall but this mechanic is by far the best.
I wish they did
How I wish Insomniac had given the suit this much attention to detail in their own game. Would've been so cool to be able to switch to the Symbiote whenever you wanted without needing a meter to do it at any time and being able to use unlimited surge mode and having all of those animations for wanting to switch back into the red suit as well. The map changing would've been sick as well.
Better than insomniac spiderman symbiote, just being real
This mechanic is such Bulls*it!! The symbiote is supposed to be addictive and Peter just wants it more. Him suddenly remembering to take off the suit is so stupid
@@simaopinto8521 It’s a fun game mechanic that was a top fan requested feature for insomniac sm2, the only reason why people got the ps2 sm3 copy. You can take off the black suit and only have metal spider arms in free roam…you can wear suits from all movies…you can wear animated suits from another dimension... And ur worried about it being “only lore accurate” it’s just a mechanic that adds depth to the gameplay. U don’t know gaming.
@@simaopinto8521no it is not
@@sunainasingh345 Yes, it is. Ridiculous, just ridiculous
If only Marvel's Spider-Man 2 had you struggle taking it off
0:22 I remember that the black suit in this game gave off black smoke, which was interesting.
God this takes me back. The fight to take off the suit becoming harder and harder as the story goes on. Never got the PS3 version. I'm surprised Spiderman 2 hasn't taken some cues from this game and web of shadows
I love doing this as a kid I hope it’s as crazy as this when I boot up the insomniac version tonight wayyyy too excited to play that
And this is why Spider-Man 3 on PS2 will always be the best Spider-Man game.
Cap, do yourself a favor and buy a ps5 to play both marvel's spiderman
@@marcsanz3912because someone's opinion can be "cap"?
@@marcsanz3912You mean the Franchise that literally replaced Spider-Man? 😂
Inso(y)mniac's Spider-Cuck 2 is literally garbage compared to this.
The only areas the former excels in are the obvious advances of it's time like Graphics, Animation Fluidity (Animations are still inferior quality wise tho as they're all soy) and general fluidity in other mechanics like swinging enemies and stuff around obviously.
And before you talk about review scores here's a review from a REAL Gamer.
czcams.com/video/PnYPEfhmGlE/video.html
And not these "Gaming" Urinalists that modern So(y)ny games like God Of Soy (Plethora of Platforming dumbed down to a button and I don't even need to talk about Kratos' ass camera or repetitive generic Third Person hack and slasher combat with soy execution animations) seem to pander to.
czcams.com/video/GV5lNMkn8Ok/video.html
Here's one with an Uncle Ben Reference (Gaming is obviously Uncle Ben).
czcams.com/video/KseIvCAdnNw/video.html
@@marcsanz3912 yes, bcuz playing woke marvel's spiderman 2 is doing someone a favor. seeing gay pride flags spammed across the city, where spider-man is hooking up gay teens for homecoming party in high schools, flying with pigens in pointless side missions, where u play as mary jane throughout the game for her force stealth missions in the main story when she's just a discount Lois lane and have her as boss fight as scream while removing characters from the source material like Eddie brock and Donna Diego - (the actual scream from the comics/source material) while also play as a deaf girl/miles girlfriend; a black stereotype: promoting vandalism when doing graffiti on other ppl's properties and also having life is strange segments all mashed into the game for filler, to an overprice and overrated ps5 that still looks like late ps3 and ps4. to a game where peter parker spider-man is giving up as spider-man by handing it over to miles, so he can be the new spider-man going forward.
the game is ASS and i wasted 10 hrs of my life that i can never get back watching that glitchy, buggy garbage and i love how miles is a gary sue throughout the entire game. shit is a wannabe bee-nox's tasm and edge of time clone and Treyarch's Raimi spider-man, web of shadows & even ultimate spider-man clone as well. overhyped, overrated, uninspired fan fiction "game-verse".
Nah psp i think
Hot take: this game did the black suit better than the most recent spiderman 2
Facts
That’s not even a hot take. That’s just facts.
Meh, but have their merits. I preferred the SM2 take but this one still works
Web of Shadows needed a mechanic like this
It did not. I get the immerson factor but functionality That would've broke tbe pace of combat from how fast paced it is. The point was for you to have full control of the suit
Nah Peter had good control over the symbiote in that game
It was Peter’s second time getting the symbiote in that universe, he already knew how to control it (at first)
Man, the nostalgia.
This version was way better than the PS3. The fact that we can switch suits with a press of a button and do some QTEs was something Insomniac should have implemented in the game. But I do love the Symbiote Surge though. I wonder if it was inspired by the overuse of the black suit but in their version it was to match Kratos' Spartan Rage.
I love this game, thanks for my childhood❤
Damn this ps2 version really is that good
I played this growing up
Thnks so much for this vid my guy been definitely wantin to see the different variations of him not bein able to fully take of the black suit 💪💯
Ps2 version > Xbox and Ps3. The ps2 is more serious than the others
I wish someone would make a mod to improve the web swinging in Spider-Man 3 to make it more like soiderman 2
My favourite SpiderMan game on Ps2 😊
I guess for spiderman when the black suit makes the screen go dark, the same thing that happened to venom happens to spiderman
Spider-Man 3: The Game (PS2) | Black Suit Transformation
Why couldn't they just do this for the Insomniac game...?
They want u to play as MJ and that black girl insomniac ruined their game with garbage decisions lmao
@@The_PaleRider Yep its their ego that prevented them from making it the greatest Spiderman game
54 voice Peter incredible ❤
Say what you will about the graphics but this version of the game was one of my favourites growing up
I demand a remaster with all these aspects still in the game
I like this version of the black suit better than the insomnic version
*I just think the campaign of this game is very short, in a single afternoon you complete the story mode*
*I would have added more villains and more stages*
*You can get the black costume after beating it but it's too boring to try to do so*
better than spider-man 3 on the ps3
This game seems like the prototype for Web Of Shadows
Nah, web of shadows has almost none of the features shown in this video (like the need and struggling to take it off or the map changing the more you use it, that happens because of venom in WOS). Also wearing the Black suit in gameplay has no impact on the story decisions in WOS (huge missed opportunity imo).
Especially the different animations when you fail taking it off on each stage of the struggle are extremely badass in this game. Sadly they don't work with the collectible Black suit after you finish the game, that one's literally just like WOS, no timer before you put it back on either.
Don't get me wrong tho WOS is a great game as well (and also shows an extremely vile version of Black Suited Spider-Man that literally becomes a terrifying villain) but far less cinematic and way more arcadey and has the unrealistic Black Suit abilities from some of the comics instead of the based Combat moves of Spider-Man 3 (that long Headbutt/Kick combo is badass). Overall Spider-Man 3 is better.
@@Vengeful_James I can only hope Insomniac takes inspiration from this game
@@GT_rising24wish is not granted unfortunately
Web of Shadows is built on the skeleton of the PS3/Xbox 360 version of Spider-Man 3.
WOS was known internally as Spider-Man: RvB.
There is a playable build with a few test missions and the shield helicarrier.
it was 2007...
Is that why the city always looks like that. I thought It was seasons changing or morbius doing
Something
This game needs a remake
Make Raimi Spider-Man 4
Release the Raimi Cut
Here is the best web swinging
If I get the game, should I get the ps3 or ps2 game?
ps3 version aint worth it
@@Poleskeris so I get ps2 version
yea ps2 is more better and memorable
@@lazy6353 this is the rare time where the ps2 version is better
@@gothamgymnast4638 because the black suit in PS2 is more better
Hm.
I’d pay for this game any day over Insomnimid’s Spider-Wuss 2
Still better web of shadows
I wish they had this type of mechanic in both the ps3 version of spider man 3 and insomniacs spiderman 2 where you had to take the suit of b4 it takes over , was such a chilling thing todo