Big Thank you, Merci! Gracias Dr. Dommasio! Since i discover you with 'L'Erreur de Descartes' 30 years ago in San Diego,CA, you help me to get back to the essence of myself, emotions as a latin and living in France without been 'Cartesien' it's not easy.. As Scientific and extroardinary writer all my Respect and my affection. ❤
I love his work, and I believe his distinction between feelings and emotions is slightly confusing. I understand the distinction, yet my experience is that we (I) also experience emotions as feelings in our (my) bodies which can be the initial consciousness of or a conversation between brain and body that moves us to action - emotion. The initial feeling of emotion is very useful in interpreting emotion and what action to take. I lack his brilliance so I hope that makes sense.
I mean it's just so good to overthrow Dualistic superstitions ie. expressed by some religious people stress on supposedly unique "human consciousness" combined with fear of Cartesian brain and Simulation Hypothesis. To overthrow it and face it: We humans are not uniquely consciousness nor inteligent. We are naturally evolved Apes (with some additional cognitive functions sure) our DNA does not show any "mark of Jehovah", we did interbreed with Neanderthals which moreover was largely beneficial to us. Animals should be treated humanly because we are no more conscious than them: We are more inteligent but not more conscious as consciousness is about feeling! Not perception! Not about inteligence! Huxley was wrong about consciousness being steam whiff . When you feel the very animal feelings even unpleasant like pain, hunger or like sexual desire that is what makes you and me conscious. How beautiful it is! Did you watch recent Tim Palmer interview with Michael Shermer?: He explains why it's utterly ridiculous to say Minsky-style talk: "Let's Simulate human brain on even bigger supercomputer and we will have consciouss". It's ridiculous not just because of emotions, guts, desire and interactions with body that are needed to make brain consciouss it's ridiculous because brain operates on barely 12 Wats and supercomputer requires thousands times more! Tim Palmer, Damasio, Hameroff, Sir Roger Penrose they are all marvelous. Pity that Francis Crick when he was alive allied himself with Dennet like people He (Francis Crick) was incredible guy otherwise
Antonio Damasio communicates his conceptual ideas about "the hard problem of consciousness in a clear succinct manner that a layperson can understand. His expertise in neuroscience, biology, philosophy, anthropology, and scientific thought and experimentation provide sound foundations for addressing the nature and complexity of consciousness. As a person with a deep interest in the nature of consciousness I will read the book that he briefly presented in this CZcams video clip Feeling & Knowing. And I will do so with anticipation and strong interest. Dr. Damask is one of those rare "Renaissance Men" whose brilliance illuminates many aspects of the human condition. My only regret is becoming aware of him and his ideas in the winter of my life!
Damasio is greater than Anil Seth and Koch combined! He (Antonio Damasio) is the true Francis Crick of Neuroscience! I had a long standing fondness for Portuguese things even though I'm Polish anyway. I can't spell out my gratitude to him for saving me and other people out of superstition of Dualism - ridiculous view that" consciousness is not in the brain but in some Jesus made cloud and that therefore death penalty is good thing" He should also join force with Stuart Hameroff I think nevertheless czcams.com/video/PxZNQBFtRx4/video.html As Hameroff needs Somatic Marker to account for apparent epiphenomality of consciousness showed even in his own Orch Or Theory in magnitudes discrepancies And Damasio will need to account for Quantum Effects already proven to take place in brains and to explain paradox of Psychodelics deminished activity that only Stuart Hameroff has good mechanism to address.
Are feelings synonymous with sensations? If so I feel this would be a more understandable word to use in English to distinguish between “feelings” and emotions for the lay person. Also, Damasio says that feelings are inaugural to consciousness as though they themselves are part of consciousness. Is that they are part of consciousness or that consciousness sees them initially and they therefore inform our consciousness? I ask that because are all things with a nervous system then to be seen as conscious? Does a praying mantis get feelings of hunger and thirst? I’m curious of the differentiating factors between other life forms biological urges and ours other than we have this greater awareness of the feelings. Someone help me understand please.
Right after I wrote this comment he started to talk about this distinction a bit. Around 25 minutes. I suppose one could say that consciousness is the ability to detect a feeling and have a feeling. Having a feeling would be for example feeling hunger. Whereas something that is not conscious can be hungry but would not feel the hunger they only then have the drive to end being hungry. One is experiential the other is behavioral. I think I’m getting at the distinction now but not sure. I would imagine though that the feeling is still there but in one example the organism can know the feeling whereas as in the other organism they have no knowledge of the feeling. I’d like to see some research of demonstrating the difference here because to me if you can have a feeling but not be aware of it this does nothing to explain where consciousness comes from…
Wait, domestic animals don’t only have feelings, they are absolutely conscious. Or how do you define conscious. There is a difference with self conscious (or conscious of self) and the mirror test, but when your dog passes out he is unconscious. Can fish pass out?
So if a feeling like hunger is fundamental to consciousness, is consciousness possible in a severed head that is kept alive medically? Can we remove internal organs one by one to see which feelings are required for “working” consciousness? For example, hunger is lost if we remove the digestive system, but desire is not local to any organ(or is it?), so is only one “feeling” a prerequisite for full working consciousness emergence?
8:51 fact permit me to be here using language in this case the english language 8:57 which is already translating my thoughts which are not in english there is no 9:03 language whatsoever they're conceptual that in the in the language of my cognition 9:08 and there they are running around and lo and behold i'm able to translate all 9:14 this in sentences in the english language i'm giving them to you as i speak and 9:21 you're doing something which is no less dramatic is that you're listening to
Children who’s emotions are ignore, shamed or attacked will shut of their emotions and therefore their true relationship to self . As this blocks their ability to live out their genetic drives they can miss fundamental steps in life such as having a peer group, pair bonding with a partner. This can In turn become addictions as a compensation and a life lived trapped in the garden rather than climbing the mountains and crossing the rivers of life .
Need to pee is a feeling. These feelings as the birth of consciousness seems brilliant. Viruses are almost like a chemical reaction. Like a poison. Feelings “inform” the “you” about things. Fear and the need to pee are both information systems to “your you”.
He might be making a mistake of differentiating the outside world and our body inside. The two will always be connected. Cannot have outside without inside, the two goes together. The outside world can have a significant impact on our feelings, because they go together. Remember Dr. Damasio is also human, he can be wrong
Yes, you can experience this through the drug 5meoDMT also known as Bufo. “Dying” in such an ceremony was the beginning of healing for me . Still takes years
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Antonio sits on a couch at a university thinking about this stuff, and he’s a “professor”. I sit on my couch at home smoking a joint thinking about this stuff, and I’m a “stoner”.
Big Thank you, Merci! Gracias Dr. Dommasio! Since i discover you with 'L'Erreur de Descartes' 30 years ago in San Diego,CA, you help me to get back to the essence of myself, emotions as a latin and living in France without been 'Cartesien' it's not easy.. As Scientific and extroardinary writer all my Respect and my affection. ❤
Thanks for this beautiful knowledge about us. I m happy that I got some feeling to my meditation practice (Just 2. week and l FEEL better).
I love his work, and I believe his distinction between feelings and emotions is slightly confusing. I understand the distinction, yet my experience is that we (I) also experience emotions as feelings in our (my) bodies which can be the initial consciousness of or a conversation between brain and body that moves us to action - emotion. The initial feeling of emotion is very useful in interpreting emotion and what action to take. I lack his brilliance so I hope that makes sense.
Really cool scientist talking about what he wants to say, not like others in smart suits talking about what others want to hear.
Antonio is RIGHT about consciousness. 👍🏻❤
He and Stuart Hameroff should unite in my humble opinion
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I mean it's just so good to overthrow Dualistic superstitions ie. expressed by some religious people stress on supposedly unique "human consciousness" combined with fear of Cartesian brain and Simulation Hypothesis.
To overthrow it and face it: We humans are not uniquely consciousness nor inteligent. We are naturally evolved Apes (with some additional cognitive functions sure) our DNA does not show any "mark of Jehovah", we did interbreed with Neanderthals which moreover was largely beneficial to us.
Animals should be treated humanly because we are no more conscious than them: We are more inteligent but not more conscious as consciousness is about feeling! Not perception! Not about inteligence!
Huxley was wrong about consciousness being steam whiff .
When you feel the very animal feelings even unpleasant like pain, hunger or like sexual desire that is what makes you and me conscious.
How beautiful it is!
Did you watch recent Tim Palmer interview with Michael Shermer?:
He explains why it's utterly ridiculous to say Minsky-style talk: "Let's Simulate human brain on even bigger supercomputer and we will have consciouss".
It's ridiculous not just because of emotions, guts, desire and interactions with body that are needed to make brain consciouss it's ridiculous because brain operates on barely 12 Wats and supercomputer requires thousands times more!
Tim Palmer, Damasio, Hameroff, Sir Roger Penrose they are all marvelous. Pity that Francis Crick when he was alive allied himself with Dennet like people He (Francis Crick) was incredible guy otherwise
I was waiting for the confirmation. Just kidding. He seems to be a little less sure than you are. He has the suspicion that he is right, he said.
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Antonio Damasio communicates his conceptual ideas about "the hard problem of consciousness in a clear succinct manner that a layperson can understand. His expertise in neuroscience, biology, philosophy, anthropology, and scientific thought and experimentation provide sound foundations for addressing the nature and complexity of consciousness. As a person with a deep interest in the nature of consciousness I will read the book that he briefly presented in this CZcams video clip Feeling & Knowing. And I will do so with anticipation and strong interest. Dr. Damask is one of those rare "Renaissance Men" whose brilliance illuminates many aspects of the human condition. My only regret is becoming aware of him and his ideas in the winter of my life!
Damasio is greater than Anil Seth and Koch combined!
He (Antonio Damasio) is the true Francis Crick of Neuroscience!
I had a long standing fondness for Portuguese things even though I'm Polish anyway.
I can't spell out my gratitude to him for saving me and other people out of superstition of Dualism - ridiculous view that" consciousness is not in the brain but in some Jesus made cloud and that therefore death penalty is good thing"
He should also join force with Stuart Hameroff I think nevertheless
czcams.com/video/PxZNQBFtRx4/video.html
As Hameroff needs Somatic Marker to account for apparent epiphenomality of consciousness showed even in his own Orch Or Theory in magnitudes discrepancies
And Damasio will need to account for Quantum Effects already proven to take place in brains and to explain paradox of Psychodelics deminished activity that only Stuart Hameroff has good mechanism to address.
great talk, thank you!
Thank you so much for this video. I bough the book already.🌺🌺
wonderful!
Connecting to inner space
Yes feelings are directly tied to the five senses as experience…
Are feelings synonymous with sensations? If so I feel this would be a more understandable word to use in English to distinguish between “feelings” and emotions for the lay person. Also, Damasio says that feelings are inaugural to consciousness as though they themselves are part of consciousness. Is that they are part of consciousness or that consciousness sees them initially and they therefore inform our consciousness? I ask that because are all things with a nervous system then to be seen as conscious? Does a praying mantis get feelings of hunger and thirst? I’m curious of the differentiating factors between other life forms biological urges and ours other than we have this greater awareness of the feelings. Someone help me understand please.
Right after I wrote this comment he started to talk about this distinction a bit. Around 25 minutes. I suppose one could say that consciousness is the ability to detect a feeling and have a feeling. Having a feeling would be for example feeling hunger. Whereas something that is not conscious can be hungry but would not feel the hunger they only then have the drive to end being hungry. One is experiential the other is behavioral. I think I’m getting at the distinction now but not sure. I would imagine though that the feeling is still there but in one example the organism can know the feeling whereas as in the other organism they have no knowledge of the feeling. I’d like to see some research of demonstrating the difference here because to me if you can have a feeling but not be aware of it this does nothing to explain where consciousness comes from…
Yes sensation is a great word for feeling.. a sense of feeling.. thus a knowing feeling
Emotions to me are recognizable forms of feeling.. inner forms of inner space
Wait, domestic animals don’t only have feelings, they are absolutely conscious. Or how do you define conscious. There is a difference with self conscious (or conscious of self) and the mirror test, but when your dog passes out he is unconscious. Can fish pass out?
I hid myself - Adam in the garden!! That was then and it is still now!!! We are Adam still trying to run away from the eternal now
great!!
So if a feeling like hunger is fundamental to consciousness, is consciousness possible in a severed head that is kept alive medically?
Can we remove internal organs one by one to see which feelings are required for “working” consciousness?
For example, hunger is lost if we remove the digestive system, but desire is not local to any organ(or is it?), so is only one “feeling” a prerequisite for full working consciousness emergence?
Wow great wyestions
Now we see in part as in a glass darkly!!! Your ignorance or darkness is still crystal clear this scripture points to…
I so agree now is possible to bring down heaven or the unseen or unknown into the seen (scene) of the knowing…
I think that what Dr. Damasio refers as feelings are INTERECEPTION perceptions…..am I rigth? …Emotions, Interception perceptions and mental feelings
Its só fantástico a Thiago like that 😮😅😊😂😂😂😂😂
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fact permit me to be here using language in this case the english language
8:57
which is already translating my thoughts which are not in english there is no
9:03
language whatsoever they're conceptual that in the in the language of my cognition
9:08
and there they are running around and lo and behold i'm able to translate all
9:14
this in sentences in the english language i'm giving them to you as i speak and
9:21
you're doing something which is no less dramatic is that you're listening to
Inner garden or earth
Why did Adam (feel) a (need) to disappear from self??
Children who’s emotions are ignore, shamed or attacked will shut of their emotions and therefore their true relationship to self .
As this blocks their ability to live out their genetic drives they can miss fundamental steps in life such as having a peer group, pair bonding with a partner. This can In turn become addictions as a compensation and a life lived trapped in the garden rather than climbing the mountains and crossing the rivers of life .
Solms and Damasio are swimming in the same pool.
Need to pee is a feeling. These feelings as the birth of consciousness seems brilliant. Viruses are almost like a chemical reaction. Like a poison. Feelings “inform” the “you” about things. Fear and the need to pee are both information systems to “your you”.
He might be making a mistake of differentiating the outside world and our body inside. The two will always be connected. Cannot have outside without inside, the two goes together. The outside world can have a significant impact on our feelings, because they go together. Remember Dr. Damasio is also human, he can be wrong
His hypotheses could certainly have creadance
So death is really a neuronal dreamlike experience
Yes, you can experience this through the drug 5meoDMT also known as Bufo. “Dying” in such an ceremony was the beginning of healing for me . Still takes years
IT'S GOOD, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TITA BETTINA ❤️ BOTH OF US ARE OBVIOUSLY WEALTHY AND SINCERE. TIME: 12:18NOONTIME
ELOQUENT PEOPLE DO GOOD THINGS. IT'S OBVIOUS, I'M A WEALTHY WOMAN. IT'S OBVIOUS, I'M SINCERE TO TITA BETTINA SINCE GRADESCHOOL DAYS ♥️ TIME: 12:17NOONTIME.
As sow see I ate!!! Associate- seed eaters
Antonio sits on a couch at a university thinking about this stuff, and he’s a “professor”.
I sit on my couch at home smoking a joint thinking about this stuff, and I’m a “stoner”.
A very classic stoner’s response. You will always be a stoner on a couch
You just ask the question, he ventures answers on paper.