Lecture by an American historian Timothy Snyder on the Holodomor (“murder by starvation”) in Ukraine
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- Lecture by Timothy Snyder, an American historian, professor of Yale University, delivered in Vienna at a solemn ceremony in Vienna on the occasion of the opening of a plaque commemorating His Eminence Card. Theodor Innizer and his distinguished role in helping out the victims of the Holodomor (“murder by starvation”) in 1932-1933.
Wow! What a powerful closing statement. An argument for the power of one over none.. thank you for inspiring us to be better
Brilliant lecture by a brilliant intellectual who can explain history clearly. This lecture should be translated into as many languages (Ukrainian, Russia, Polish, Romanian etc.) as needed so that people could get educated on this period.
I would add: Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese... And let this go into all outlets, not only Democracy Now, which as far as I know are the only ones that interview him. His conferences are also translated into German, since he is frequently in Vienna.
Snyder wrote a good book on the unfortunate events in eastern Europe called "bloodlands: Europe between hitler and stalin" which gives a nice overview of the suffering, persecution, starvation, murder, genocide, etc. caused in the 20s 30s 40s by the two dictators. It includes the kulaks, poles, holodomor, holocaust, einsatzgruppen, siege of leningrad, soviet POWs, etc. I really liked reading it although it's obviously somber and tragic...
It is nice seeing that Timothy Snyder is a very famous historian about the tragedy 20th century in Europe, particularly the Eastern area
Thank you for this. Totally unforgivable that we were never told of this in school. I think it's important for people to hear of this, especially now that people still are calling themselves communist, and that it in some circles is even seen as "hip" and "progressive"... At least here in Sweden.
The more educated you become the more intense it gets when you learn about certain events because you understand and can relate to the details more due to maturity and gaining life experience. For example when your a child and hesr the word starvation, it doesnt hit you as hard as it would to an adult. A just hears stomach growling and skipping dinner. When an adult hears the word starvation, they paint a much more detailed and horrific picture. They can see the elderly die from basic health conplications, little kids with swollen bellies not being able to move, unsanitary environments all over which create and adds more complications to the horrendous suffering. Screams and yells out of every house windows throughout the neighborhoods stemming from excruciating pain in just about every household. The unbearable hardships… and that barely scratches the surface. When i learned about these things from books my father used to give me as a child such as crime and punishment leo tolstoy books etc…it was a chore to read them but now when I learn about these historical events I’m glued and go tunnel vision from the excitement of new knowledge and understanding. Its like story time for adults.
Enjoyed reading your comment. Thank you
"One is always soo much greater than zero"
What a note for closing his whole argument , , ,
Its amaze me in a good way, that more and more international historians interests about post soviet countries, as there is so little about this in especially in english. Thank you for your work!
Thank you for this video. It is a great opportunity to listen a speech of famous public intellectual.
Agreed, especially for the purpose of educating as many viewers as possible about this history
Good lecture, thanks for posting.
Brilliant as usual.
Thanks for helping Ukraine.
one of the organizer of holomodor in Ukraine was the Ukrainian Lazare Kaganovitch, Staline was Georgian as Lavrenti Beria boss of nkvd; crutches half Ukrainian was political commissar an participated to the genocide
@@louisecorchevolle9241 Yes. Unfortunately there were collaborators jn every human disaster
And therefore the entire humanity🙏
One of the best videos I ever watch. Thank you.
Brilliant speaker.
Thanks for this
Applauds to Dr. Snyder!
1 Kings chapter 21. Informative lecture.
During terrible tragedy my father was 8 years old під час страшної трагедії моєму татові було 8 років.
Eternal memory of Dmytro Vyshnivsky, he died of starvation at the age of five
Вічна пам'ять Дмитру Вишнівському, він помер голодною смертю був п'яти років
Dude that’s crazy my father wasn’t even born yet when I was born 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@trappingonthyblock7625 degenerate, he obviously meant his brother.
@@trappingonthyblock7625 I don’t think it helps very much to make fun of his comment. It’s very clear what he meant. I also think that people calling you names isn’t right either. A little bit of compassion and understanding can go a long way. 😊
@@mattrodriguez2652 oh now you’ve changed my life now I’m ganna help the homeless 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@trappingonthyblock7625 Good day to you, sir
Timthy is a classic liberal scholar. His the blood land book is a must read classic. The audible version is also available on CZcams.
Fascinating.
Timothy Snyder, have you written a book on Stepan Bandera or can you recommend one? I see a lot of conflicting material on him.
Timothy Snyder got his PhD on this topic and published several academic articles, the first in English, if you are seriously interested.
Prof. Snyder is a brilliant historian. Nevertheless, I will take it one step further. Communism in Russia was to a large extend and from the time of Stalin taking over just an ideological epiphenomenon of (ideological vehicle for) the Russian imperialism.
one of the organizer of holomodor in Ukraine was the Ukrainian Lazare Kaganovitch, Staline was Georgian as Lavrenti Beria boss of nkvd; crutches half Ukrainian was political commissar an participated to the genocide
Kaganovich was no Ukrainian.
SWEJ are behind communism
Шкода, що немає українського перекладу...
Це треба було би перекласти на українську.
What about Rhea Clyman?
This sounds very similar to something that is happening in the world, right now...Hmmm.
This sounds nothing like something that is happening in the world, thankfully.
@@ronweasley9819 Ron, China?
Very similar, unfortunately.
@@terrywitzu7874 China - sure. North Korea - sure. Europe, North America and a few other countries - no. Definitely not.
@@ronweasley9819 Fool. The Great Reset is Communism 2.0. It is, again, a banker/Rothschild plan to control global kulak/middle classes.
Ukraine is not starved, but bombed to dust and once again Ukranians are decimated...
Stand strong, Ukraine!💙💛💙💛💙💛
OM
Be safe.
Instead of going after Hitler they should've went after Stalin
Evil hides in the shadow of every politically extreme ideology.
@@mcnello420 👍 So True
@@mcnello420 Communism and National Socialism are two sides of the same coin.
Good they went after H! But they should also have gone after St!
No! After the two
from PERSIA ArmeniA Israel with Passion
You better prepare people becauses it's come to Amerika too. Everything we see today is by design. ALL of it.
100% AGREE
THE GREAT RESET.... USMC Major General Smedley Butler foiled the corporatist/banker conspiracy in 1934; the same conspiratorial format to use angry WWI vets as an activist army, like the Italian Blackshirts and German Brownshirts.
Today, the Russians that Stalin moved into the homes and villages of startedtodeath ukrainians are, in eastern Ukraine, still grateful to Stalin/Russia. The current conflict in eastern Ukraine due to Russian ethnics is a continuation of Stalin's Holodomor. Ukrainian farmers used to eat for lunch, in the field: a shake including raw egg, wheat, (milk), honey. Protein, carbohydrates, milkfat. On holidays, Ukrainians eat softcooked barley sweetened with honey and poppyseeds. But then, HOLODOMOR happened, and many switched to eating dirt, bugs, bark, and human flesh. AMERICAN HOLODOMOR is now foreseeable. With predictions of constant 10 percent inflation, buying food for pantry will be best investment of money, driving people to empty store shelves even faster. Better to spend some $$$ now for stocking up on food to store, and buy guns and ammo to defend your food from BLM activists who will try to steal it or eat your flesh.
He says 4 Mio starved people. Others say up to 12 Mio.!
We have a history of American Native people...
Stalins wife opposed to the politics of Holodomor and committed suicide. Perhaps THAT changed Stalin's politics - and not the single European....
The most important lesson is that communism should be forbiden as fashism is. How come that we still have communist parties even in democratic countries???
As a historian one should know that a statement like "there was no working class in Russia" is pure bunkum. Yes Russia was an overwhelmingly peasant country but the working class was a significant minority based in the main cities. At the time of the Oct revolution numberred, along with their families, about 25 million. And it was the working class who were in the forefront of the revolution in 1917.
If your referring to 6:15 or so he says "there wasn't very much of a working class" which is the same thing as saying not a large percentage of the population, but that it did in fact exist.
Historian? Russian?
and they say Hitilar rose to power because he was a good speaker.....oy vey lol
There were SO many reasons! A very important one was the humiliation after WW I and the huge reparations Germans had to come up with. And the hate resulting from the wars before. The scapegoating. The simplifying. The hysteric, controlled media. People who were eager to hear they were special. Cowardness of the simple, single individual. The overall controll .....
So good, this is over!
It's almost amazing how the entire history of Russia between 1917-1930 is just sketched over. As if Stalin is just the natural progression of the regime of Lenin. There is no struggle within the regime. No New Economic Policy. No struggle over how the USSR is to industrialise. How Stalin initially sided with Buhkarin against the left supporting the rise of the Kulaks "enrich yourselves" etc. Why Stalin ended up pursuing breakneck collectivisation has its origins but, listening to this, you wouldn't have a clue.
Yeah, one could almost think that this isn't the subject of the lecture...
I can tell you've not read any of his works lol
@@Judea06 no I haven't. I was considerring buying one until I watched the interview. He's obviously a hack and not a serious historian.
Bruce Wallace he literally goes into detail about the history of the Soviet Union from 1917 - 1930 and details Stalin’s deft maneuvers to take power...that’s just in the introduction and first chapter of “Bloodlands.” If anybody is a hack,
It’s you.
The title of the lecture is......? The holdomor.
It was imposed in.....? 1932
Snyder spoke about?.....The holdomor.
Snyder how how long for this talk?......45 minutes
He mentions Kulaks but describes them as peasants?! Kulaks were a very distinct class of property and equipment owners. The peasants were those that they employed. He also fails to mention the sabotage committed by the Kulaks in protest of the collectivisation program. There are records detailing the amount of food, livestock and machinery destroyed which exacerbated the famine.
Snyder then speaks about Gareth Jones like he was some sort of heroic journalist but fails to mention Gareth's fawning sympathies for Hitler who he had just visited the week before going to the Ukraine. It's noted in Gareth's own diary which is available online. Snyder also fails to mention that Gareth was working for William Hearst, a stanch anti-communist who owned 1/5th of the US media and published works by both Mousilini and Hitler.
Cardinal Innitzer. Please Google him! He was a strong supporter of the Nazis up until 1938.
To really understand what Snyder is doing here it is more important to listen to what he is *NOT* saying.
Kulaks big land owners? You could be called Kulak if you just owned enough to feed your family. And where did you get the information of Kulaks sabotaging? Russian sources?
Of course nobody wanted to just "give away" what the familiy and the ancestors had been working for! Farmers have a strong connection to their land, their animals. They LIVE from it!
And today we know that collective work for the collective was never as productive as working for the individual on own land. Machines left in the field, harvest ordered at inappropriate time, animals treated inappropriately and without knowledge....
My great-grandfather was sent to Central Asia and his property was little less than 500 square meters. You think that's a lot?
would you allow your goverment to come to you and says: from now own, everything yours is ours, your land, your house, your animals. Would you agree on that? would you? No way in hell i will believe that you would and would not try to fight for everything you earn by hardworking. Kulaks had never been super wealthy, it was just people who worked very hard and earn everything by their work. Then suddenly came KGB and demanded that they are criminals, because they oh my god own some land, not a entire farm, but a small piece of land. People were detained, deported or killed because of this. So maybe Snider do not tell enough about Jones, in this case his political views doesn't change the fact that NYT covered the one of the bigest crimes against humanity and still did not apologize for that
@@HeadhuntexGamer - Your grandpa wasn't the issue. It was that he was part of a class of citizens who owned much of the Agricultural land and equipment. Enough that they could work collectively to manipulate markets, issue predatory loans, and exploit the peasantry.
500m2 isn't a lot but ~500m2 for each of the 1.8million Kulaks is.
@@jasonosborne9835 Still dont see a reason to kill millions of people and 500 meters square is literally poverty in the rural world, you produce mainly for your family and if you have surplus you'd sell it to your neighbors, almost zero relevance in the national market, still the Soviet Union fell because it was an authoritarian and inhumane regime.
People have to gather in Ukraine and create their own monetary system and grow their own food and built their own system of taxation that will build society they live in...separate from the Kiev corrupt regime
and they do grow their own food, but the russians keep getting on their case and won't let them live
@@annimacca8786 Russians hmm or the Yankees last time i checked the 'NED' was funneling 5 billion dollars to destabilize the country..with a blessing of a neocon mama Victoria nuland...with a famous leaked phone call..
So please provide me the sources if you have any regarding Russians funneling the money or funding the n@zi azov militia group.. because i have not found any.. (please don't quote the CIAMOSSADMI6 mouth pieces such bbc/cnn/msnbc etc
@@afrsyr-honestbroker3897 Gosh, the 5 billion is the total amount given as aid from the US to Ukraine since 1991. Russia in the same period received 12 billion. For the stabilizing of those countries. Russia is destabilizing Ukraine with its military invasions, obviously. And with a whole range of other instruments.
How do you know there is a corrupt regime in Kiew??? Russian Media?
@@afrsyr-honestbroker3897 Oh yes, the out-of-context phone call by Nuland. Let's ignore the corrupt pseudo-dictator nearly bankrupting Ukraine, holding political prisoners including the former prime minister, rigging the 2012 parliamentary elections, and murdering over 100 protesters.
We know one of the most educated countries in eastern europe is full of people who are too stupid to see what is going on in their country and can't think for themselves! MUH COUP. Because we know that a coup is defined as 85% of Ukraine's parliament voting to impeach a sitting president, who then ran away like a bitch from his private estate with no immediate threat to his life.
P.S. the Azov regiment still has problematic elements in its ranks but that's despite attempts at deradicalization, not from lack of it. Most of its founding members were expelled or left to form the fumbling National Corps party. The unit has been reconstituted many times since its inception, has gotten lots of non-radical recruits, and barely resembles its original composition. Needless to say, Azov would never have existed if Russia had just left Ukraine the hell alone
Gets the approval of the rabbis before the lecture😂😂, you know it's going to be biased propaganda
it happened because of the samekind of reasons Ethiopia had a famine. Foreign currency.The USSR needed to divert and control grain for export to pay for the US technical help in their industrialization. The tractor factories that later churned out the tanks were built by the US. Ethiopia exported corned beef to the UK for foreign currency to fight its civil war. Churchill caused the West Bengal famine by diverting grain from there . Very myopic lecture. Good but not really informative.