PreSonus StudioLive Digital Mixer | DAW Mode Likes & Dislikes
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In this video, I share my likes & dislikes of the DAW mode on the StudioLive 32SX. Watch my other videos on the 32SX here
• StudioLive 32SX
Please enjoy this PreSonus StudioLive digital mixer unboxing. If you’re curious about this studio mixer DAW digital audio workstation, this video is for you. This is a studio mixer that acts as a DAW (digital audio workstation) controller, and the official product name is PreSonus StudioLive SX32 Mixer.
The StudioLive 32SX is the ideal little 32-channel digital mixing solution because it has all of the processing power, studio-grade audio quality, and customizable routing choices that made StudioLive mixers renowned. The StudioLive 32SX digital mixer, which is powered by the dual-core PreSonus FLEX DSP Engine, has 40 mixing channels, 26 mix buses, and 286 simultaneous processors, as well as 4 stereo reverberation systems and Fat Channel plug-in models on every input and mix.
The StudioLive 32SX is the perfect choice for any mixing setting where desk space is at a premium due to its low profile. The split-fader approach gives you access to your mix outputs on eight additional faders while allowing you to control 32 input channels in two fader layers. The StudioLive 32SX maximizes use of available space by combining connectivity and power with 32 XMAX mic preamps and 16 balanced mix outputs.
You may build a system that is genuinely tailored to your requirements using the StudioLive 32SX digital mixer and the entire PreSonus StudioLive Series III ecosystem of AVB networking solutions. Give your musicians their own customizable 16-channel monitor mixes by adding EarMix 16M personal monitor mixers. Use a StudioLive 32R connected as a monitor mixer or remote stage box. The versatility of Digital Patching on your StudioLive 32SX digital mixer and in the UC Surface remote mixer software enables you to network multiple StudioLive Series III digital mixers, allowing you to route audio to and from any device on the audio network.
The Studio One console's full StudioLive mix scene, including fader levels, Fat Channel settings, mutes, solos, and more, is recreated when Capture sessions open natively in Studio One. No other multitrack recording program is as quick, easy, or hassle-free, allowing you to concentrate on the show's mixing.
By introducing drag-and-drop simplicity to typical mixing and production tasks, Studio One changed music recording. Preamp level control and other features can be managed directly from the Studio One software console thanks to tight integration with StudioLive 32SX digital mixers. Your Studio One controls on your digital mixer are immediately accessible when you press the DAW button on your StudioLive 32SX. You can easily switch between your live mix and your production mix with the push of a button by turning on and off Studio One control. The StudioLive 32SX comes with Studio One Artist, allowing you to start recording right away.
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Dave, first off thank you so much for taking on the task of trying to explain this very complex set of mixer/recorders. I purchased the StudioLive 64s and have been working with it for only a couple days. Both of your previous videos are a great introduction to the mixers and how to get up and running as a DAW controller. I wanted to share some things I have learned about the extra "Scribble Strip" that is above the knobs in the Fat channel control section:
When you are accessing a plugin / effect that is loaded into the mixer, e.g. Presonus plugins, the strips automatically show what parameters the buttons are affecting. You can use the "Page Left/Right" buttons to access the additional parameters (the names of each parameter is shown in the scribble strip above the knob).
Third-Party Plugins - the parameters for these do not "automatically" show up in the scribble strip. However, in Studio One, when you access the plugin you can change the "controller" (top right in yellow) to be the "UCNET Remote". Then you can map the various parameters of the plugin to each of the 8 knobs and the name of the plugin parameter that you mapped is displayed in the scribble strip.
Now I know that it's extra work to map the parameters of the 3rd Party plugins manually to the knobs, but it's a nice "compromise" for those plugins that you use the most. It's not "ideal", but it's a pretty cool feature that I haven't seen documented anywhere (or maybe I just haven't found it in the documentation yet). I'm still learning this console and Studio One (Previous Pro Tools user with Apollo Interfaces and the SSL UF8), but I am impressed with what I have seen thus far.
I look forward to the additional content that you are going to do in regards to this line of mixers. I really enjoy your channel, thank you for all that you do. #SubscriberForLife
Thanks very much for your support! Also, thank you for sharing your experience with the SL mixer. I think those 2nd set of LCD screens makes a huge difference for plugin control. Not sure why they sent me the mixer that did not have them but its all good :)
As of this video, I was unsucessful in getting interface mode to work correctly and therfore had to scrap the video. I need to cntact Presonus to see if I can get some support. If I am able to make it work, then a video will be done.
I like your presonus daw controller series. You have clarity and good flow in your videos. I will be unboxing my 32sc any day now. When I bought the 32sc I assumed the daw control might only be somewhat useful if I use my studio one daw so your series confirmed this. But I bought the 32R for stage monitoring with avb link up to use 32SC as FOH if needed and double as a studio recording mixer so I think they will work well for my needs. I haven't seen a daw controller with versatile plugin control at these price points. I agree with using a touchscreen implementation as you suggest. Then it falls on the plugin developers to put more effort on that side of things with mappings for knobs and buttons. I think Neve Genysys black mixers may have that solution, but they start at 50K.
Have fun with your new mixer!
I really appreciate your making of these videos. I am in the market for a new DAW controller. This really helps. Thank you.
Glad to help!
Completely agreed with your comment on jumping to the track you select on the hardware. It’s very important. Most mixing interfaces even control surfaces are very behind in functionality where you only get piecemeal benefits from hardware control. Granted, with all the plugins it’s not easy to insta-map everything to hardware. But for base daws, it shouldn’t be that hard.
I agree!
Much agree. I have the 32s with the LCD screens. I don't find they help that much for plugin control, and I wouldn't use it for that purpose or recommend the mixer as a DAW controller.
However there are two ways it works great when using it as a DAW controller. One is to write fader automation to multiple tracks at time while mixing. In the old days, all movements during mixing were done in real time. So if you like real time fader adjustments across and entire mix, you can set multiple tracks or busses to write automation and do a pass through your entire mix and capture your movements.
The other one that you already mentioned is Interface mode, which turns the Mix sends into direct outs from the DAW. So when mixing I use Interface mode, and when tracking I use regular aux bus mode.
Now my thought is that since their firmware can do either direct out of the Mix busses from the DAW, or use the Mix busses as auxilliary outputs, they should combine the two and give the option on each Mix to choose whether that mix is acting as an AUX, say for headphones, or an interface, for external processing of DAW tracks. That would be a fantastic improvement.
Yep. For automation, you are correct. however, I would spend a LOT less money and just get a faderport for that. not spend $4,000 on the SL.
As for interface mode.....I tired for 6 hours to get it to work correctly and could not manage to get it to work, that's why there is no video for that feature yet. I need to contact Presonus to get help with that, so they dropped the ball on that one....LOL
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy That's frustrating. Interface mode worked for me since day one. Inititally I was on a Mac Mini M1 but in August 2022 I switched to a custom Windows PC. It worked with both systems.
Out of interest, what doesn't work? Do you get the warning that you're turning it on when selected?
I made a document listing which USB Sends and Returns map to which part of the mixer: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSrpbnbgu3c8KaFGdnFVHkks6BuvgSNls41c1g5_WCE2GrF7TpCeTg5G72gMAgly6-YaJ6E3ubNNnLw/pubhtml
Sure that information is on Presonus' website, but it's poorly laid out.
Which one is the one with extra screens ?
I have the 32SX. I’m a drummer and it’s great for tracking. And I enjoy having a ton of inputs. But you’re spot on with DAW mode. I just use the mouse for that. Otherwise, it’s a nice compact means to record drums, e-drums, and keys. The other benefit of this mixer for me being solo is, I can fully control the mixer from an iPad at my kit using UC Surface. This is a huge benefit tracking drums, working alone.
Great points
Thanks, Dave I feel the same way. Why should we have to move the mouse over to see the track that's selected?
Studio One needs to fix this ASAP.
faderport does the same thing. And fix the pan knob too. You turn it and it will click backward or too far ahead.
And a BIG THANKS to you for being real with us. 😁👍
Thanks for watching!
I'm waiting for a DAWcentric (yeah I just made that up) recording version of this mixer with Fat channel, jog wheel, transport, locate and scene control, like my old Mackie D8B. I have no doubt Presonus could pull this off, even if it was only geared toward studio one users like me. Thank you David. I can't praise you enough for this comprehensive series on DAW controllers.
For now, I'm sticking to my Softube Console One and 1st generation Faderport.
Well, Presonus can certainly pull it off but my guess is that there is not enough of a market for it to make sense to make one from a business perspective.
I must agree with you. This mixer is so complicated in DAW mode.
Not my fav as a "simple" DAW controller
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy
I enjoy your videos. I do have a question. I bought the SL32sc and I love the mixer but it seems that the only way to get sound to come out through the mixer in DAW mode is using channels 37/38 Tape In. My previous mixer which was a Tascam Model 24 MTR all audio would be controlled using the master fader. That is not the case with SL32sc. Can you tell me if there are other alternatives because I have 2 speakers connected from the Main L/R Outs and another 2 speakers connected from the Monitors L/R and the volume is controlled by the Monitor knobs which I would like to be able to control them separately
Great review! I love my 32S but agree with your downsides, especially channel select sync between selection and screen🤘🏼
Thanks! 👍
I would like to have a Meter Bridge across the top that angles up and individual preamp controls.. more knobs to replace faders doing everything! (Cue mixes, EQ, and effects, etc) That would make this console PERFECT!
Good point.
The best plug-in control would probably be a touch screen tablet style interface with knobs on the bottom with smaller screens above them for display. Since there are so many different kinds of plug-ins with vastly different layouts, an somewhat universal controller would be difficult to say the least to implement.
Great thought. I hope someone comes out with a great plugin controller one day!
Dave, would you hook up your studio monitors to Main L&R out or Monitor Out? I have the 32Sx I just purchased not long ago.
Main L/R
Hi there ,do you know a way to "loopback" audio back to a DAW on the series 3 plz?
For example ,i use Superior Drummer multi out.i'm trying to route kick,snare etc to individual channel on the mixer and send all those individual channels back to my DAW to record as audio track.Presonus customer care could not help me 😅
I don't, sorry
Great review as always thank you. . Bit heavy handed on your mic compression on this one
Thanks for watching!
I have the StudioLive32iii have had it 4 years now the plugins are very easy to use on the Live using the knobs I I just don'tuse it only with StudioOne ,I use Reaper DAW as well in yes ,I can control it with the same function control as in Studio One very simple and easy my thoughts
Thanks for watching!
Great stuff uncle Dave! Just took delivery of the SL SC for my home studio.
Hoping to see the mentioned upcoming videos on using this for recording but not finding in this channel yet. Most interested in info for routing the instruments to appropriate amps and FOH without melting any speakers.
As a small group of musicians I wanna be able to use this mixer for both DAW recording and live performance, and occasionally at the same time. Looking forward to learning how. This is not your parents mixer! Please keep up the great videos
Sorry, there are no additional videos on this mixer and I sold it so maybe another channel has done what you are looking for?
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Can you please share why you sold it? Was it the DAW meh and do you have a reco for a better digital mixer for use with Studio One?
Hey,cool Video.But which Model is the one with the New displays on 32 channel Version?
No idea. sorry
Do you know of any videos where someone has actually done a whole tracking session in Studio One? showing how to set up for tracking and monitoring?
I dont sorry
I watched your videos several times thank you for this, question: can we do all the recordings and mix inside the studiolive and then export it to a daw for mastering ? Im thinking to replace my interface and im not sure should i go all in with Studio live 32s or buy a highend audio interface. The second option difinetly gets much more expensive since i will need to upgrade my pc plus highend interface plus some external controls like faderport .. and still need expansions to get I/O s for external gear in the future. Sorry it gets long 😅 but im realy confused here!
You CAN NOT record and do all the mixing on the console it self. You can only record to an SD card and then need to be hooked up to your DAW.
Is there a daw mode fix for this new mac update Sonoma??? My console nolonger works in daw mode...
Not that I am aware of.
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 😮💨😢
I have a StudioLive 32SC because I bought it to replace my DAW controllers, Yamaha mixer and ZOOM Livetrack Recorder with a single machine.
I don't have much space in my studio, so I thought it was a good idea, but I was wrong, the mixer still does something to be able to call up sound settings again and again.
I've created presets for various instruments, so I'm ready to record more quickly, but the mixer doesn't do much better.
Since I mainly work in Cubase, the DAW mode is just less usable, only the fades work and the tracks are even badly labeled.
As for the recorder, I thought that this one could record individual tracks and this one could also overdub, but that's not the case. The recorder is only used to make live recordings and overdub is not possible.
So I still use my IQon QCon Pro and the extension, for recording I use the ZOOM Livetrack 12, the StudioLive only serves as an interface.
Unfortunately, it is with me so that the StudioLive is not properly recognized by my computer. Whenever I turn on the mixer, I have to pull out and reinsert the USB cable at least once for the mixer to be recognized by the PC.
A Presonus NSB 16.8 is also connected to the mixer, so I misunderstood something and thought I could expand the mixer with additional channels. This is not the case either, with the 32 channels you can only decide which inputs or outputs are used, the NSB is not an extension.
Above all, you have to see how to get the NSB to run on the mixer, if necessary, you have to import the firmware update into all devices first. It can only be used if the LED on the NSB lights up blue. it was green initially and that helps me for work readiness, that's not the case.
All in all, Presonus could do a lot better because Studio One can't keep up with Cubase by far.
Interesting info. Thanks for sharing
I'd love to have a console style DAW controller solution for mixing. Plugin control would be amazing, but also really just want some faders to put my hands on again. Not too worried about the other features since I'm happy with my current setup. Sounds like the FaderPort 16 might be a better option for me. I'll look at your other videos too. Thanks for the review 👍
Yes, the Faderport is a way better option for your use case
I also don't like how if I hide tracks in the DAW they are still on the faderbank on the mixer. If I hide it in the daw, then it should hide it on the mixer.
If I only want to see 8 folder tracks or 8 VCAs thats all I want to see on the mixer as well...
you know?
understood!
If you go under the mix window, and on the left side expand the channel list. From there you can select what channels you want to see. On the right side of that list there is a little button called edit remote bank, that will sync your mixer with what you see on your computer! Hope that helps!
If I am going to purchase a 32S, what would be a good add on product to interface with it to enable good plug in control???
I have not seen a plugin controller that does it properly yet
Been waiting on this one! I have a sc studio live and haven't tried daw control yet
DAW control isn't the best experience.
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy noticed that, atleast the faders work well for automation lol hopefully they will fix alot of the problems in firmware updates soon
i understand your wish to have visual changes of selected channel on daw screen. i think as a quick limited fix i would suggest to use extra wide monitor. which is wide enough to show all 32 -48... mixer channels on screen.
Someone can do that if they wish. It would work. Or, the company can fix the product. :)
Hi Dave nice review !
I have SL24 with the small screens on the fat channel section that I use exclusively in DAW control mod
the point of improvement would be to remove the limitation of 2 banks of 8 knobs ans 1 bank of 8 buttons because some plugins like the channels strips need more controls.
I'd like to see 8 more macro with shift + user function and the ability to assign some on the fat channel buttons that are not used.
It's the nerve center of my hybrid system.
Great suggestions!
Can t believe that PRESONUS and many other manufactureres are not able to implement such a simple thing as a Hardware> DAW Channel Toggle. I was close to buy the 32SC mainly as STUDIO ONE DAW Controller. Deal busted. 🚫
Well said!
Have you tried Rocksolid 4k mini? I'd like to watch a video with such level of detail an information as this one. Thanks.
No, I have not. I check out their stuff and reached out to them but never heard back
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy what a shame I think it would be a huge opportunity for them to get their product to be known by many people. I reached out to them asking for pro tools integration AAX and they told me they are working on it, and maybe they will have an AAX host by the end of the year.
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy have you tried their chat on Facebook? That's were they talked to me about the host thing
Can you control 3rd party plugins with this?
Yes, but not easily.
The qcon pro g2 is pretty good with plugin control
Cool. I did not know that
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy yup you have to map every plugin first then after that when you open them again itll all be saved
That was so aggravating to me also with the blank space instead of a nice touch screen big enough to see well and use is beyond me. They can say its price but honestly it would not make it that much more expensive IMO, if you can buy a 10 inch ipad for under 500 dollars you can install a nice touch screen in that blank area.
My other main issue is the loud clicking of motorized faders in a small church is unusable unless you you want everyone turning around to look every time you hit a button that moves the faders which is alot of them.
Also when they come out with something new it wont be long before they drop support for your older device, and i think that has some to do with Apple dropping support also.
Reliability is another big one but time will tell.
Understood. The loud faders is also on every other unit I have tried so this is not unique to the StudioLive
@Home Recording Made Easy That is very interesting because side by side on a few different units the Presonus is noticeably louder than soundcrat, beringer, or allen & heath.
Maybe because they are touch sensitive, thats the only difference i can think of.
I like what Presonus has accomplished in the newer mixers since the first studiolive model of which i have 2 and they are still working today except a fader or 2 is getting dirty, but curious to see if their new owner Fender which is a larger company will make the new mixers a level up in issues mentioned before.
We need a How to use the Studiolive with outboard gear
Its not easy. I tried to use their "interface mode" and could not get it to work. so I would not use the Studio Live with outboard gear. No one has a video on how to use this mode and actually show it working. Joe from Presonus is the only one who walks through the connections, but never shows it working. so I have no idea how to get it working.
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy and it's not in the Manual either, thanks for the info, I think I'm gonna sell my Mixer and Buy Two Universal Audio APOLLO X16
If it only had ADAT or any 8 channel AD/DA options....
Yea, the SL is really first and far most a LIVE mixer not an audio interface so for ADAT you need a traditional audio interface
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy It's surprising that devices like the Quantum interfaces offer support for both protocols AVB and ADAT, but lack a seamless integration between them. This absence forces users into cumbersome workarounds like device aggregation, potentially compromising audio integrity. The ideal solution would be a single device natively bridging AVB and ADAT, ensuring an uncompromised signal path right up to the final D/A conversion. Addressing this would greatly simplify and enhance our studio workflows.
good review ---- audio is a little low
Thanks for watching