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Having spent a few days with the iPhone 15 Pro in Sydney I've been really enjoying the key new features like USB-C, the 5X telephoto tetraprism lens, the new action button, and of course the revised design and titanium frame. But some decisions Apple continues to make are blatantly anti-consumer and directly in opposition to the claims of environmental protection that they publicly profess. Today we'll go over my in depth testing iPhone 15 Pro review and discuss the MASSIVE flaw with iPhones these days.
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0:00 intro
2:48 Real world testing
3:37 14PM vs 15PM camera comparison
5:58 Battery testing
8:51 USB-C speeds are NICE
9:40 Action Button is awesome
11:07 Apple hates repair
12:00 The big problem with iPhone
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1st world problem complaints. The average customer doesn’t care.
Actually, I bought 2 - the 15 (upgrading from 12 mini) and 15 Pro (upgrading from 13 Pro). TBH, upgrading from the 14 Pro is not worth it; unless you want 5x or USB-C. About the battery life - it seemed that it was really going through the battery fast, but after having 5 days now; I find that the battery is conditioned and now the battery life has improved immensely (TBH, it's actually really great).
Didn't even skip the ad, that's actually a good idea.
Claims like 'recycled materials', 'non toxic components', etc are meaningless if you have to recycle the device long before it reaches what should be its natural lifespan. Parts cannot be replaced without Apple lifting your leg, and in addition you become locked out of your iCloud account until you buy a newer product.
That tactic should be completely illegal, on environmental grounds at the very least.
In addition, you cannot give an older iPhone or iPad a second life by installing Linux onto it. I have a fully reliable iPhone 6 Plus here which still has 87% battery health, and looks brand new, but it can only be used for phone calls, texting and non-iCloud e- mails. Apple locked it out of iCloud a few months ago, for no sensible reason apart from greed, effectively losing them a customer, because I don't have the spare money to shell out for a new phone. I'd put a modern version of Linux into it in a heartbeat.... if Apple would allow that heart to beat.
The only reasons why I use an Apple phone are that Android is truly awful to use, laden with ads on every level, and a portal for Google to shove its hand down the user's throat, or into any other orifice that you can imagine.
Luke you hit the nail on the head with Apple’s decision to lock out 3rd party repairs with serialised components which leads to increased e-waste. Please use your voice and popularity to keep highlighting this and hopefully with enough backlash Apple can change their ways.
Keep up the great work and welcome to Australia.
The iPhone actually works down under ?
I like that you’re bringing up repairability 👍🏼 It’s more important than many may think!
Who hasn’t complained about repairability? It’s like the number 1 discussed thing with apple in general
@@BeansEnjoyer911 I believe battery life is the #1 discussed thing.
Its about ho really „owns“ the device
Its kind of interesting listening to repairability concerns. This is coming from someone who literally never breaks a display/backglass or has any other scenarios that destroys the iphone
It’s still not a repair friendly phone. Apple still has a tight control on parts. Everything is still software paired. While physically we can install replacement parts with actual repair manuals, it’s still going to be software locked.
Also thank you for talking about the repair side. I own a electronics repair shop and these phones / laptops / tablets are always getting harder and harder to fix. I hate to tell my customers no there's nothing I can do when I know darn well if it wasn't for everything being serialized I could fix it. Apple has made me purchase other products they sell just to break them open to get 1 stupid charging/power IC because no one will sell it. Other repair shops will know what I'm talking about... We need to get Right to Repair moving forward but when all these companies have trillions / billions to spend on lobbyist I'm not sure what we will be able to accomplish without a wake up call.
It’s quite simple, they’re a private business and can sell their products in such a way that they deem appropriate. No one has to buy it. If that happened maybe it would change but the desire is still bigger than the downsides. Doesn’t take legislature to force them to produce products a certain way, trust me no one wants that
this is way more complicated than what you think.
then people are running arround with "repaired" devices from who knows what "technicians" that catch fire etc...
to name only one of many more.
it's not that easy
I own my own business and Ive been in the repair field for about 20+ years now.... I know what I'm talking about. There are bad repair shops out there yes but there are many many many good ones that are not " Authorized repair " X brand " that you can trust. I do not know of many devices that have been repaired from a shop and then blown up / catch fire. That would be a potential bad battery that maybe a good tech thought was good at the time? It is tricky finding the right vendors that will go against the big tech companies and sell you the right / good parts I admit. I really hope your not one of those people who watches and believes all the " ANTI-REPAIR COMMERCIALS " about an un-authorized tech will hack your device and ruin your life by stalking you. Many " Authorized " repair companies or even the big brand have been caught cutting corners and stealing customers data. I do what I do because I truly want to help people @ fair repair rates and try to slow down the pollution on this Earth from all the e-waste.@@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@@JohnSmith-pn2vlcatch fire??? Really, you show me one example of a device that has caught fire after being repaired by a quality third party repairer. You are dreaming dude 😂
@@shiftctrlhackI totally agree. I repair Macbooks in Australia, I know what I am doing and every day I repair Macbooks that Apple just want to replace logic boards on, telling people that their data is gone forever. If they do not have their data backed up on iCloud , the only way to retrieve their data is to fix the device. Quality third party repair is the only option. You are also right about the anti third party propaganda put out by the big tech companies. The auto companies put out these ridiculous adverts about people getting raped in car parks because of third party repair. This was highlighted by Louis Rossmann in some of his videos. We need effective right to repair strategies from the tech companies and in all areas from farming equipment to computer hardware and everything in between. Not these toothless attempts by CrApple to hoodwink the legislature into thinking that their recent repair and parts availability programs are actually of any practical use.
Everything you said about repairability is spot on! It’s damaging our nature in a long run.
You know what else is damaging nature?
Flying across the world on a plane fueled by dead Dinos to get a new toy 24 hours earlier than at home.
@@raifolson7033the flight would have happened anyway
The iPhone just does not break so no need for repair.
I REALLY appreciated your concerns about reparability as an Apple enthusiast. This makes you respectable as a reviewer, and also raises awareness on these topics, which actually make a compelling point especially considering the contradictory company's stance on environment and recycling.
100% agree
How can you say that when the chassis is now made of titanium ?
Really enjoying this "Luke in Oz" series! I think we've passed peak phone, where changes are incremental. Once wireless speeds catch up, we might see another renaissance. But for now, many of us are happy with a refresh with each new phone instead of a radical shift.
Thank you so much for covering the issues with a Apple parts pairing and showing how that puts a lie to their grandstanding greenwashing BS.
I am an apple customer, I think their products are really good, but I am becoming more and more disenfranchised and disgusted with the company behind the products.
The reason they don’t change and make things simpler for repair is because that will disallow them from pushing a dystopian future where they can aid the political elite in controlling you, which is why they’re virtue signalling like there’s no tomorrow with their climate agenda, which is nothing more than keeping you in fear of an impending crisis they kept saying will happen for decades!
Apple is still a great company.
Apple states battery life is the same on their website and keynote. Luke finds out the battery life is the same in this video and can’t believe it. Also people please understand about serialising the components. Do you really want to be placing a cheap knock off display on your 15 Pro Max? an inferior back glass with plastic lenses so your pictures now look like dog shit? a port that works half the time because it’s badly made? All of these things ruin your experience of the device and it’s all your fault.
As someone who had his phone snatched, I have to say that I’m glad serialising components, makes that stolen phone (which ended up in Shenzhen) far less useful to the thieves.
They should just allow yourself as the owner to be able to control the de-serialization of components via an AppleID login or some other form of authentication, especially one that a thief would not have access to (like a Yubikey). That way, people can repair their own phones or give repair shops temporary permission to swap out components. Having Apple be the sole controller of the serialization process is stupid.
Your comments are perfect. Excited and icky are how a lot of us feel about Apple. Older macs and phones are perfectly usable. A new OS doesn’t have to come out every year anymore. Love the products, hate the hypocrisy. Right to Repair!
I actually feel the exact same! Why even have a new OS every year? It's absolutely not needed. I rather have performance and safety updates. Get a major/big update when you're ready and implement it right! You know, like they used to. I do miss the times of Snow Leopard to be honest.
It’s sad how that feeling has crept up over the last 3 or 4 years or so. All the OS and hardware updates are actually making their products worse.
You want to got back to the Stone Age?
@@stephenwabaxter Hey, could you elaborate a bit? Go back to the stone age how so? Because of right to repair? I think we should be able to repair the battery in our smartphone. But that's just me of course. Though i think a lot of people would be happy if this was made a bit easier. There can be many possibility's to do that. I personally love Apple as well. But i understand the need for "right to repair." Of course, it's not the only company who makes it hard to do this. But they sure as heel are the one who don't make it very easy either!
The fastest way to go back to the Stone Age is if we deplete our materials and resources because we cannot repair them. 10 year old laptops and phones can still be used if these companies will take a minimal amount of effort to keep these devices repairable and usable. @@stephenwabaxter
What is the point of “it feels better to hold” when people put a case on it anyway?
What more do I want? How about an Action Button which can provide different functions based on long-press, two presses, three presses, or four presses? That’s what I want.
On the action button, there is (at least) one important thing that people would want and that Apple should have done: a much better positioning. The action button is located in the same place as the mute button, which is not the fastest spot to reach (top left side). For a mute button, that would be OK, but for a button that can do much much more and is thus meant to be used much more often, the button should be in the place that is the easiest to access
Is it true that numbering all the components of the iPhone makes its repair more expensive, but in my experience, living in Argentina where it’s very likely that you’ll be robbed, the advantage of them being numbered is that iPhones aren’t stolen because people know that if you lock them via iCloud, they become paperweights. They can’t even sell the parts. Perhaps if Apple numbered them but made repair easier and more accessible, numbering would be an advantage. Because yes, here in Mendoza, which is a province in the interior of Argentina, it’s impossible to find official Apple service centers to fix them.
Im more worried to see how weak the back glass is in various durability tests . I was considering upgrading my iPhone 13 Pro Max to a 15 pro max ,but seeing how flimsy in comparison it is ,I see no point . I mainly go caseless.
Also,my battery health is 100% still ( after the update to iOS 17.01. So, I guess I am doing a better job in preserving my phone. My old 11 that I gave to my mother,years ago, is at 96%.
And I’m noticing nobody is talking about the iPadOS 17 ,how bad it is on something like iPad mini 6. I use my iPad to read books on PDF and before the update was stable af,now crushes the app every few minutes .
yoo, hi. just thought i’d say, i’m usually a 3 year upgrade cycle dude. i thought the 15 pro max was a big enough upgrade though. hell, apple would give me over $1000 (AUD) for my 13 pro max, so why not!
i’m honestly not that happy with the 15 pro max. i will be returning it in a few days. my battery was at 60% by 10am this morning… iOS is getting to heavy for it’s own good. i’m going to go back to the 13 pro max
@@davidjenkins2638 damn, Apple seriously are rushing things . I am guessing it has something to do with the new gen SOC , which they will most likely optimize , but next year one will probably be better tuned .
My main concern remains with the durability issue , though - they can’t fix that with a software tweaks .
13 pro max remains a super stable power house and I’m glad I kept it .
The best setting to change 5G to LTE, on AT&T the LTE is 2x faster and more reliable. Also I get up to 20% more battery life! In several speed tests LTE was around 250mbps and 5G was around 120mbps at most. It’s ridiculous especially in Colorado where there is line of sight connections to most cell towers.
It's an incremental upgrade. The 5x lens is nice, and although new to the Iphone, but it appeared in lots of Android phones. The titanium is utterly unimportant for 99% of all users. Usb-c, standard in ALL android for years is good news. Cheaper cables due to a lack of Apple tax. 11:05
I disagree with your assessment of the importance of titanium. While I agree that the metal’s design isn’t too important, the lightness that is achieved because of it is significant. This is especially true for pro max users who had to worry about suffering a concussion if they dropped their phone while holding it above their heads while laying down.
Android sucks. iOS rocks!
@@stephenwabaxter Spoken as a true follower of the Apple cult. I hope you realise that most features in your phone appeared years earlier in Android devices
@@PieterBreda I guess we should thank Alexander Graham Bell.
The 15 pro wasn't in dark mode, gotta be worth a good few percent
100%. This is honestly a major blunder because if he doesn't understand how OLED screens work regarding dark vs light mode, with OLED being able to turn off the pixels in dark mode entirely, what else is he doing that isn't making this a straight comparison? I get that these comparisons aren't scientific but COME ON man.
Plus the battery hasn’t learned the daily usage patterns.
I wonder why they still don't support reverse wireless charging
Probably not a priority or they’re saving it as a new feature for later.
Cause they will lose money, you wanna charge AirPods or any other phone with your iPhone? Hell NO buy our chargers that’s Apples mentality do you get it now?
so that they can make people buy the magsafe charger just to charge your airpods or buy the watch charger
Probably mag safe fields make it difficult
Because 1) it's kind of inefficient, 2) would be hard to do when you want to charge another item that supports MagSafe (the two things would repel each other or be misaligned), and 3) is not that practical aside from AirPods, which would have the issue with not being able to be aligned because the MagSafe Magnets repel each other
I upgraded from iPhone 11 to the 15 pro and OMG I absolutely love it!! The screen is so sharp… the way I can see it even in the sun now… and the speakers are incredible.. the display is incredible… the camera is incredible…. Everything about this phone is crazy amazing!!! 😁
How’s the battery life
@@54CFC seems ok to me. Not as long as I expected maybe. It’s not worth getting excited about but does the job for sure! :)
The minimum focus distance remaining the same is very disappointing to me. It’s honestly my biggest complaint with my 14 Pro. My work requires me to frequently use a third party app to scan barcodes, and because third party apps only use the main camera, the minimum focus distance more often than not makes this pretty much impossible. And it’s not exactly a niche problem. Most shopping and retailer apps that have the ability to scan barcodes have this same issue and it drives me absolutely insane
I'm a new sub and massive respect for your opinion on reparability, I'll stay subbed just for that.
Maybe all of us as Phone users can just hang onto our phones as long as possible to show Apple and all manufacturers how we really care about the environment impact these products have. I still have my iPhone 11 Pro Max and yeah its nice to have all these new features in a phone but if it doesn’t actually make my daily life better and it doesn’t have a better outcome for the future then its just not worth it for me.
Couldnt agree more with you Luke.
Nowadays it´s almost impossible to repair a recent iphone without apple doing anything.
I had a 6S since 2016 when I bought it used and I replaced the battery 2 times (right now my father uses it ). It´s unfortunate this is happening more and more. I´ll make sure to use my 12 mini as much as possible and i´ll repair it if needed.
iPhone 15 Pro Max is excellent. Battery life better than the 14 Pro Max. USB-C to Ethernet cable lets you access high speed internet. Plugging in an external USB-C SSD lets me see all the contents and record 4K 60P in ProRes with external storage. Is there an Android phone that lets you record video externally to SSD?
Totally agree with you, I planned to switch to iPhone 15 Pro from 12 mini, but as a protest that iPhone 14 Pro had poor battery life and they did nothing I will skip it.
I’m still a bit on the fence with this, but I too have a 12 mini and was planning on upgrading to the 15 pro. At this point I really don’t know
The back glass isn’t serialized on the 15 pro and pro max. PRG swapped the back glass on 2 phones and still worked without errors.
Biggest update in terms of performance to me: 8GB ram. The TSMC 3nm this year is more like one step back with similar performance but way worse power consumption.
Extra GPU core drains energy. Same results since m1 Macbook pro
@DarkPa1adin I agree. But according to SPEC2017 cpu benchmark results specifically using cpu only, alongside the terribly high temperature of A17 pro, it is hard to argue 3nm makes any improvement.
@@Lying29 have you seen Geekerwan? I feel like A17 is an A15++
@@DarkPa1adin Yes exactly. And I saw that SPEC2017 results alongside some other GPU tests right from Geekerwan's video.
Glad I did not upgrade for a few years. I’m coming from iPhone 11 Pro Max, and it’s so rewarding to upgrade to the 15 Pro max.
That’s a really good upgrade path to take. I usually upgrade every two years😅 3 years max.
I'm coming from a XR though my hands are just to small to comfortably hold the Pro Max so it's a normal Pro me. Sad I can't use the 5x though :(
@@jacobperez8921I heard the 15 pro max is getting overheated quickly, how is it for you so far?
I agree 100%. I'm going from a 11Pro to a 15 ProMax. My 11pro's battery had degraded to 78% and I thought it was time to replace it. I had been waiting for Apple to change the Lightning port, and the 5X zoom is a welcome addition.
With Fairphone now promising 8 years of updates and Apple making repairs more and more difficult I’m starting to consider switching back to Android. One of the reasons I switched to iPhone was the long support but that’s not helping if it’s too expensive to repair the phones. They claim to support right to repair officially. I hope they actually do it in practice for next year’s phones.
They made the same promises when they were selling the Fairphone One and Two. And they kept their word. Until they didn't. Try finding a modern motherboard for the Fairphone One, try replacing your Fairphone Two screen for an oled one. They just pour a bucket of marketing sauce over the issue, telling you it's no longer viable to keep offering parts for that old a phone. That parts availability was the sales pitch when they sold it, now the opposite is? They are the same as all the others, they're the phone equivalent of the CO2 emissions protester that flies around the world to be there at every highway blockade.
I like the idea, but other than repairability, that phone is ass. Specs are kind of a let down especially at that price tbh, if they make a repairable premium phone then I'd be interested.
This actually made me reconsider if I want to switch back to iPhone after trying some android in between. I'm clumsy and I would not like to pay expensive fees on top of expensive phone, just to be on the safe side when it comes fixing broken display. I mean, sure all the phones can be pricy to get display changed, but some other manufacturers still make it possible to use other than authorized service only.
Battery would not be an issue. I must be good enough to survive whole day. At least I'll postpone purchase decision.
Thanks for the great vid!
The last real battery bump was on the 11pro. From the X to the 11 was amazing. Since then, it’s been very incremental.
I had the X and upgraded to the 11 Pro as well lol. Still thinking if I should upgrade to the 15 pro or just get the 14 pro since I still love the Gold. Did you upgrade your phone ?
@@9Os_kid I had the 13 pro and upgraded to the 15. The 13 was a beast and had awesome battery life.
not gonna lie as an apple sheep I really can't tell any difference between my 14 pro max and 15 pro max. I might return it as I don't feel like its much of an upgrade lol
Have you seen all the videos popping up of the 15 pro breaking significantly more easily? I feel like thats the real issue with these phones the tech reviewers aren't covering in depth yet.
Finally someone is calling Apple out on repairability. I’m currently using an iPhone and a MacBook but I’m jealous how repairable Fairphones and Framework laptops are. It’s also disappointing that starting this year, the iPhone X (= still a good phone) can’t run the latest operating system anymore. Soon it won’t get any OS updates anymore.
The software update is really not an area you can legitimacy criticise apple tho
@@raminMTL They are doing relatively well, but it’s still bad for users and the environment. Two potential solutions: (1) Let users install Linux on old devices. (2) Charge money for OS updates for old devices.
I’m loving the massive camera improvements and battery life because I upgraded from a 12. That seems like a more realistic upgrade cycle than comparing to a 14.
Coming from a 13 ProMax, it will be a very nice update. 14 Pro Max owners shouldn't update unless the new zoom lens is your thang. You realize now with USB-C we can soon buy a case that will have a connector to a battery pack BUILT INTO it which will solve the batter issue, yes? USB-C opens lots of doors that were not available with the iPhone 14 models.
the only iphone ive had a problem with battery life on is the se 2022, and thats understandable.
Ive got the 15 pro (not max) and it damn near lasted me 2 days on the first charge, very cool.
One positive comment. I ordered 15 pro 256gb (not max either) and was concerned bout every other comments from this video and other videos. Would you elaborate how long you charge abd apps you yse? I use, Outlook, teams, youtube, WhatsApp, Netflix, Amazon prime video, chrome, no games and no social medias . So us it wirth buying pro? Us the battery coming all day? Is it heating up? Im waiting for mine.
@@ashwinkumar2294 to be honest im not on my phone like most people, i use it to call and message, use youtube sometimes, and answer emails, thats about it..
That being said it has not heated up at all.
(I also use it for music and carplay)
@@CyberMichiganBuilds how's camera? How's video battery life responding?
@@ashwinkumar2294 Well after using it an entire day it dropped from 100-88% so im thinking no matter who you are you should be good, and as far as the camera goes, its defo the best ive ever used.
I’m glad you addressed the repair issues. The fact that Apple says that they support right to repair but makes intentional decisions to serialize components makes me wonder what they define as “right to repair.” I just replaced the battery and screen on my iPhone 11 and I now have (1) lost True Tone, and (2) have permanent non genuine part messages on my phone. Woe betide me if my FaceId breaks.
Great work!
And thanks for teaching us about the serialization practice! That is really Big Brother territory.
we do have one hope of this changing and that’s if the EU gets involved and hawks the change on them like they do/did with all of us throughout the years I like Apple undeniably but also I can’t lie I wish they had a Scott Forestall or someone else that is WaltDisney/SteveJobs equivalent because that’s otherwise the only way they would change. I’m using a 13 Pro Max to type this on as a FYI.
I’m migrating to the Fairphone 5 this winter, and for the first time I’ll step out of the techie fast lane.
I’ll happily continue on with a new tech plan contributing less e-waste.
It’s been nice to be with Apple since the first version.
I love that MY iPhone is an iPhone SE (2022). Simple and small, ideal to carry while 🏃🏻 Touch ID, no Face ID. The single back camera is excellent for casual use (stuff I post on IG)… That’s probably how (at least) 80% of iPhone users take photos, no matter how complex their iPhone’s camera system. AND affordable. IF Apple keeps refining original Steve Jobs iPhone design with updated specs, I’ll keep buying even if my current SE still working. Next one Spring 2025 with A17 and USB-C please! 😏
It most likely will have face id unfortunately for you
@@RuviaPawz Face ID and larger screen would add $100-150 (or more) to retail price, for the low-cost choice. And creating a brand new design with Face ID doesn’t make sense for SE. It’s the “special edition” of an existing design with updated specs. iPhone 13 mini just recently left the iPhone lineup, so Apple may update that existing design with A16 and USB-C for release Spring 2024, call it the new iPhone SE (4). But two back cameras, Face ID, and larger screen will increases cost. OR maybe simply call it iPhone mini (with no number) for customers who want smaller up-to-date iPhone design AND keep current (more affordable) SE in lineup with Spring 2025 specs update.
I just had the display replaced on my iPhone 12 Pro last month by a third party repair shop and the face ID still works. I have a warning message in the settings telling me that new OEM display may not be a genuine part and the true tone feature is gone but that is all that's wrong with it. I have had iPhones since iPhone 4 but now I am considering switching to Android just because of the non-repair issue that Apple is putting into place.
So it looks that for many of us that we are not interested in the most fancy or latest features in cameras but use a phone mainly as a phone the only motive to get the i-phone 15 is the USB port, and then this is only justified for the Pro since the non-Pro version is an industry vintage type 2 USB only (vs industry speed type 3 of the Pro). Am i getting this right ?
"New and refreshed design" lmfaoaoao bro I thought you have a 12 pro max, 13 pro max, or 14 pro max, you one of those 😂
The EU will force tech companies to make their products more "user-repairable"... just give it some time. This is actually one of the huge benefits of the legal body of the EU.
I don't think Apple is going to improve their batteries; furthermore, they want to make it impossible for you to repair Apple products. They want you to buy a new iPhone at full price every 2 to 3 years
I’ve shopped on eBay, etc for used iPhones and I’ve come across some that say “no Face ID” or something else is messed up. Now I know why they didn’t get repaired
Completely agree with your concerns. Apple is basically making it impossible to keep a phone for more than a few years and if you do - you better switch to AppleCare on a monthly renewal. My iPad Pro 12.9 is four years old and I still pay every month for AppleCare. Last year the USB port no longer would charge so they sent me a replacement unit, same model. My question is at what point do they tell me we’re sorry you’ve been paying for AppleCare but we no longer have that unit to replace yours with.
My guess is also that Apple is using serialized parts to counter theft. If an iPhone is reported stolen, then all of its parts are red flagged and cannot be used in future repairs on other iPhones. Hence the Apple server “check”.
I’m just a regular user of an iPhone SE (2016) that I buy it on a sale in 2018.
I’m constantly viewing the new releases of the iPhones and this year I was expected to upgrade to an iPhone Pro only because it as more battery and 3 cameras and LIDAR… new stuff to experiment.
When the iPhone 15 was announced I compered all features of iPhone 15 Pro with iPhone 14 Pro and 13 and even with 12 and 11 (all Pro line), because the iPhones continue to be very expensive only to use as a regular phone, nothing pro levels…
What I noticed is that now a days for a regular user that need more battery and extra features the best choice is the iPhone 13 Pro.
It has almost the same battery of 14 Pro and 15 Pro.
The photo lents it’s equal similar.
The 13 Pro it as almost the same features that 14 Pro and 15 Pro has.
I assume that in a few day/ months I’m gonna buy a new iPhone 13 Pro a lot more cheaper than an iPhone 14 Pro or 15 Pro that it has almost the same features that 14 Pro and 15 Pro has.
Great video !! Also be very careful on the 15 PRO MAX back glass. That glass cracks literally just by slightly flexing it. The 15 Pro doesn't have this problem from I can see as of now.
"Slightly" flexing...
Yes I would consider it a slight flex. Think about it. You go to get in your truck or car and your phone is in your back pocket. My butttt cheeek :) is definitely sitting on my phone. My current phone has no problem at 140 lbs but from other videos I saw of the durability I can see that it may not hold up well in the long run for me. This isn't a common occurrence but for the money it needs to hold up well. @@frankniethardt1813
to be fair he had been burning the middle of the screen for some time before he flexed the phone.
Haha true true@@Fear.of.the.Dark.
Loved your previous video of getting the phone in Australia :D I enjoyed the more vlog style of it!
Glad you liked it!!
Things I have noticed so far: much lighter and easier to hold, curved edges making it easier to hold also. The a17 pro chip is noticeably quicker.
I put a 14PM against a 15PM and notice no difference what so ever. Sometimes apps on the 14 opened first and vise versa. I think you just want it to be faster to justify wasting your money like me lol
maybe he's doing heavy loads, editing video or something. That's probably where you will feel and see the difference the most. Opening apps is more of a ssd thing than cpu. The single core performance of the new chip is quite amazing for a phone, faster than the M1 chip.@@paulmichael4094
Luke, your were in Sydney! For the iPhone launch! Humbling moment for an aussie nerd
Thanks for having us Luke! We're excited that the iPhone is finally compatible with VITURE One right out of the box - there's no better way to unlock its full potential than XR. 😎 Enjoy!
Appreciate the honest comments.
I believe the point of the serialized parts, those parts which are part of internal data paths, is to protect the users from parts that could inject malware into your phone.
Thanks for keeping it real, as Apple fans we love their products and the lifestyle it enables but at the end of the day they are a big company that cares more about the bottom line than anything else and it's great that big tech reviewers like you are calling them out. Otherwise, they will just incrementally make things worse for everyone trying to squeeze out a little more profit for shareholders.
Why don't we buy shares in Apple and reap the financial benefits ?
@@stephenwabaxterthat’s fine, but because I’m an everyday user if Apple is messing up their products in some way that could annoy or make my life a little worse every day even if they are simultaneously creating value for me as a shareholder. Also, long term if they are somehow messing up or screwing customers their shares won’t go up indefinitely. Both satisfying customers and shareholders goes hand in hand long term.
Let's talk about the iPhone 15 It cost nearly a 1000 euro in the European market. BUT: refresh speeds of the screen is still 60Hz. Reloading the battery goes slow with a speed of under 30 Hz and USB-C2 dates back to the year 2000. and is much much slower than the Pro and Pro Max. There are android phones under 300 euro's who perform better. But I haven't heard any one about this flaws. ( Sorry for my English because Duch is my native language).
My thoughts are I upgraded from 12 pro max to 15 pro max I slightly expected the camera to include the lidar instead of relying on 3 party app for lidar
Thanks for finally talking about the focus distance issue ! Macro mode is definitely the answer to that but apparently, most people don’t care
Totally my thoughts! Nice video Luke! Hopefully Apple would noticeably improve battery life in the following years, especially when more and more people are complaining and less and less new features can be added.
As for the parts serialization, one way would be for Apple to unlock some parts after a device gets vintage, so at least it would be possible to be fixed with 3rd party parts or technicians.
I agree with you about the whole ecological approach. It seems so contradictory. For example, the new cases that are made of recycled plastic replacing biodegradable leather? Repairability is a key ecological issue since these devices could eventually be used by other people who do not care about having the latest. But locking down everything is going to create a lot of electronic waste. I agree with you.
If they fix the battery life you might *NOT* feel the need to *upgrade* ultimately loosing money....Sometimes the answer is right in front of you
I’m going to preface this with I think one should be able to repair and destroy one’s own purchase however they see fit. But let’s put some perspective to this, not to say that it is right or wrong, but just that it is. If I make something, sell it to you, you modify it with parts that “work” but don’t provide the experience of my original design, is it my product or your device? It still has my logo. Later, you sell this product to someone and don’t disclose your personal modifications. who does this person blame for the bad experience? They just think I make a bad product and probably steer clear of my products. Boo hoo, pity for me. Right? That’s one perspective. Let’s look at theft. If I steal your phone, without a passcode or cloud recovery, the device is useless, as a device. I can still sell the parts, as genuine apple, because they are. But if they are serialized to the original device, they are crippled and useless in grey market theft. It’s a double edged sword. Honestly, with Apple’s repairability where it is and where google is as a wholesale data miner, what are the options?
What I noticed is people with bad battery life are the ones who live all day on Social Media apps or play Gacha Games. A lot of social media apps run background tasks that murder your battery on both Android and iPhone.
“USB c is a pro feature and apple is harnessing it well” WTF, this is not even a pro feature😂
Good day mates 😎🙌🏻🐝✈️ So cool that you guys went to Australia. My first reaction was oh my God you guys are crazy in a good way but then I saw that you’re actually making content over there which is so cool. I love it. Can’t wait to see more. Have fun and enjoy. Apple servers had a problem when I was ordering at 5 AM so by the time I got my order and it showed October 9, but I do have my Apple Watch Ultra 2. One thing that I really like about it is that I usually put it in airplane mode when I’m in the house but I like to wear it and be able to raise to speak and do basic things like opening apps and setting a timer is actually really useful. I like on device Siri. Also, when I cranked up the flashlight to the 3000 nits in a dark room, it pretty much lit up the room which is awesome.
Do you find the iPhone 15 Pro to be brighter outside than the 14 Pro?
At 7:50 you did the wrong calculation there for the battery life. Your testing consumed 21% battery on 15PM and 27% on 14PM and you said it's 6% better. NO. Because, based on your number you can perform the same test on 15PM 4.76 times and on 14PM 3.70 times. It makes 15PM having 28% better battery life than your 14PM. And this is not something I'm claiming, it is based on battery percentages of your phone.
So 15PM battery is 28% better than 14PM not 6% as you mentioned. You can then consider the battery health of your 14PM. Thanks.
Title of the video should say iPhone 15 Pro Max, not iPhone 15 Pro. You said that you spent a day with the 15 Pro Max, and all of the comparisons in the video are comparing the 15 Pro Max versus the 14 Pro Max. Even in the description you say you've been enjoying the new features of the 15 Pro including the 5x lens, which is incorrect because only the 15 Pro Max has the 5x lens. It was a bit misleading for someone looking for a video about the 15 Pro and doesn't care about the 15 Pro Max.
There’s a reason why I follow your channel: honesty and down to Earth reviews and opinions. I totally agree with your concerns, and thank you for expressing them! Love your content!
@lukemiani would you suggest using optimised battery charging or 80% limit?
Very good presentation. I totally agree with your observation of Apple’s non repair tactics which alone creates a lot of e-waste! My watch series 0, AirPods are all sitting as e-waste! Yet Apple stage big dramas boasting of being eco friendly!
Apple saves the planet.
It’s not just ewaste it’s creating, it’s putting people out of business as their phones/laptops are basically locked down now. An excellent and respected repair shop of 20 years near me has just closed down citing this very reason.
Okay but the battery problems with the 14 wasn’t initial battery life. That battery life was fantastic. The issue came later on with how fast the battery degraded. So we can’t really say the 15’s battery is the same or bad until we reach the same point when the 14 degraded. There’s nothing to “fix” battery wise with the 15 pro. Yet. That’s like back when the note 7 had its explode gate, having one explode then the next year getting the note 8 and saying “well the battery life is the same except it hasn’t exploded yet, but last years did so PLEASE FIX THE BATTERY LIFE”. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense does it. If anything, the fact that’s it’s matching the 14 pro’s day 1 battery life using a more demanding chip is impressive. If in half a year it begins to degrade as fast, THEN by all means say it’s just as bad.
The 15 Pro Max apparently overheats even more than the 14 Pro Max, with the same issues relating to that.
Despite all the big deal talk about titanium, the 15 Pro Max bends more easily than the iPhone 14 Pro Max (whether that matters or not).
The glass breaks easily from drops.
Whatever they coated the titanium in appears to scratch fairly easily, though I'm sure most people will buy protective cases to protect it.
There's apparently only $30-worth of titanium in it (watch JerryRigEverything 's teardown).
Very expensive repairs of parts Apple won't supply to third party repair agents who charge vastly less for repairs.
Reviewers now casually talk about Apple Care as though with Apple's changes it's taken for granted that it's mandatory - yet they don't factor in the price of both the phone and Apple care, in their reviews.
Still no 8K video, I think we're all hoping their implementation knocks it out of the park but for yet another years, we're not there, yet.
- or a lot of the features that people with Android phones take for granted.
Photographs are, as you say, incrementally improved but they've improved with other just-released Android phones, Apple's strong selling point is that it scores well for consistency from its AI, which is certainly a big deal, but falls short in detail resolution and several other areas, which considering the way it's marketed and the price of admission, is disappointing. It's saving grace, for me, notwithstanding the lack of 8K recording, seems to be video where it remains class leading. And perhaps that's enough, I just can't justify the price, personally.
Plus there are some welcome new features but like a lot of people, I'm fed up of what amount to almost product placement buy-though-my-links reviews rather anything approaching a well rounded review that details both pros and cons.
Please keep piling pressure on Apple, re right to repair, not enough reviewers have been doing this, and if you could do a product by product break down of the cost of repairing Apple products through Apple, any rebates, etc, that, also, would be really helpful content.
Thanks. Hope it was a fun trip.
I had a full day with my 15 pro max yesterday. The battery was on par with my 14 Pro Max which is at 90 percent battery health. My iPhone 13 Pro Max which is at 89 percent battery heath after two years, still beats the 15 Pro Max.
It's running "new phone" routines, give it two weeks and retest.
@@tonyburzio4107 I had the phone a day early on Thursday. Everything was set up and indexing for Thursday and Friday. Saturday was my full day with it.
100% with you on this!! They're hypocrites acting like they're doing good while destroying their second hand market. Creating loads of e-waste and preventing the less fortunate to own an older but still functional iPhone. Shame on you Apple.
Apple sells recycled phones on their website.
You came all the way here for a phone? Why did we get it earlier? I mean I got mine last week but I wasn't aware it was "early". I can't tell if it's the IOS or the phone but is it me or it heats up a lot? I'm enjoying it over the 12 pro from 3 years ago. I also noticed that with the UsB C, if I connect it to an external screen with power, it actually projects! Didn't happen with the lightning. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed your trip though.
As an iPhone 15 Pro owner I’m embarrassed to report Apple includes a USB 2.0 cable in the box. I would have preferred Apple ship no cable than add in instant e-waste.
Could not agree more on your final thoughts on this video. It's a main reason I am considering my next phone and computer purchases to be in the Android/Windows ecosystems...
9:13 “Faster than lightning” Apple should have used that one in their keynote 😂
You forgot to mention that iphone 15 pro and pro max are literally less durable in a substantial way than the 14 pro series. That is a big deal when they spruce this phone and its allegedly stronger titanium frame as a major upgrade and a unique feature this year.
Thank you Luke. Which one you going to get. 15 pro or pro max ?
Still waiting since for my iPhone Pro Max Natural Titanium that I ordered at September 21. Looking forward to use the 5x lens, with mechanical image stabilization(a must).
I can't agree on the 5x camera. Every single one of those shots looked soft to my eye (with exception of the portrait where the subject is a lot closer to the lens). You could just crop in on the 70mm for a similar result. Maybe it's just the YT compression?
Correct - Apple does not want cost-effective repair. Apple wants you to buy a new one. As a consumer, "Bad, Apple. You are VERY bad." As an AAPL shareholder "Well Done!"
And why does my brain autocorrect 'Miani' to "Miami?" Is it just me? Is it because I live in Florida? This happens EVERY f_cking time! Great video, Luke!
Thanks to Europe, for the USB-C, if they didn't do it, it will be still a Lightning connecter 😃
we do have one hope of this changing and that’s if the EU gets involved and hawks the change on them like they do/did with all of us throughout the years I like Apple undeniably but also I can’t lie I wish they had a Scott Forestall or someone else that is WaltDisney/SteveJobs equivalent because that’s otherwise the only way they would change. I’m using a 13 Pro Max to type this on as a FYI.
Are you playing hypnotic bass frequencies in the background? 😂
The ending / later parts of this video are super excellent. Thank you.
I think the EU is taken measures on user repair ability. This might force apple to make the necessary changes like they did with the type C, so they don’t lose that market.
I wouldn't exactly call them a huge redesign. They added a new build material but still haven't changed the way the device looks. For the last five years it's like looking at the same device each iteration. They haven't even changed the way that the camera housing looks.
how has the heat been for you? i've seen a lot of tech people complain about how hot the phones get
The point of serialising a piece of glass with magnets on it, is they can then tell if the phone has been opened by a 3rd party. Liquid damage shouldn't happen, and should be covered under warranty if it does, as they are water resistant. Not so after a device has had a 3rd party repair. I believe that sort of thing is Apple's motivation. They don't want to have to replace parts in a phone, or the entire phone, because the customer cheaped out on a generic repair and were left with a non water resistant device for example. It's a super pain though, would be easier if this was not the case. Years ago scammers would carefully open a near new iPhone, take out good parts and put bad parts in (like an old battery, defective camera etc) short something out so it wouldn't turn on again, and then have someone take it into an Apple retail store... "Sorry sir, I can see the issue. We'll replace that phone under warranty for you" and Apple would swap the whole device out. From what I've heard this was very commonplace and where a lot of the second hand market of 'genuine' parts came from. So I think that's what Apple's trying to prevent, mass fraud... rather than stopping someone at home from fixing their broken device themselves, which they don't really care about.
Disagree on the night time camera performance differences between the 14PM and 15PM. In your comparison picture at 6:56 you can see that the street lights give less of a glare on the 15PM. That’s due to a new coating on the lenses to reduce light glare.
Otherwise, nice video!
A good service is one that you never need. I use Apple devices since 2012, so far I had zero (0) repairs needed in an Apple device. Yes I always have my phone in a thin case plus a display protection glass, on average I drop it once every 1-2 years. Never been a problem. But yes Apple is in for profit, not for repairability.
The 5x portrait lens is too long for many situations (like indoor), also a maximum of possible bokeh is not necesarily a good thing.
Well this old normal is simple, and has missed a KISS feature that was taken away from me. So the "Action Button" for this normal it will be the return of the "Home" screen button/sensor. On my iPhone 11 Pro still to this day more times than not can not get the swipe up to work. So it is swipe, swipe, swipe up until it returns to the "Home" screen. My hope is that I can map the "Action Button" via "Shortcuts" to a landing page for multiple "ShortCuts".
*** Please find a at least 3 port USB C hub that I could use to rig up to the new Apple 15 Pro Max so I could have power, external storage, and USB C microphone. ***
With you on the battery issue. Would have thought at least a ten percent gain in battery life. Will have to see what the MagSafe battery options are.