Polygamy is celebrated when it favors the man. But is frowned up when it favors women. If the wives or women of those men supporting polygamy decided that they also wanted more than one man, all hell would break loose. It’s selfish and one sided.
exactly..because the man cant control you if the woman have more than one husband ,it is all about control not true love God said he is a jealous God only be faithful to HIM ..
I dont support polygamy, but let's be real. If a woman tries it, it will ruin her life period. She will be a whole immediately without delay, and that's how the world sees it.
If the women who are popular emphasize romance in terms of commercial value and comfort, it sends a message to men that relationships are more about materialism than genuine connection. Meaning you can be bought of the shelve 😢
That is a real point for concern o, that wife is a whole human being not a property , u can seek variety in things not in a human , can they for variety in kids too or go and seek variety in their mothers and families
1. Biologically speaking men are designed to be polygamous . Due to extremely higher levels of testosterone ( men have on average between 17x-23x higher levels of testosterone than women) women are born with all the eggs that they produce. After puberty, they start dropping one egg a month ( on average), until menopause. Men produce millions of sperm cells every day from puberty until death. Once a woman gets pregnant, she’s out of commission for the next 3 years as far as reproduction is concerned, and she can typically only have one child within that time period. Men can have as many kids with as many women that they sleep with. 2. Women are HYPERGAMOUS in nature ( quality over quantity). This is because they are vulnerable, especially during pregnancy and infants nursing. They also require massive amounts of resources and protection, that’s why they’re attracted to taller fit men with excess resources.
That's everything to girl but for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
That's everything to girl but for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
Right!! I'm a Christian by the way! But in the past in our religion. Man were able to have multiple wives of they were capable of doing so. Most of the time those "extra " wives were widow with kids
I am blown about Muslims have multiple wives because of their religion. The Quaran says do not take multiple wives unless you satisfy all of them equally emotionally, physically and financially. Most, if not all, can not fulfill that. It wasn't even fulfilled by their own prophet.
@@duckruler5507 Fr, and it's not because scripture allows men to have multiple wives (it doesn't), but because it says to take care of widows is a way of practicing true religion.
I can't believe you called yourself a Muslim, which one is mostly poor people have many wives. Little did you know the reason behind allowing Muslim men to have more than one wife? Tho it was made clear they should stick to one if they know they can't manage them in terms of justice. Think of the population of women to men (4 to 1), why do you think there are more prostitutes and the likes. Let me draw the curtain here.
Try it please and you'll soon understand why men and women are different. You'll hate yourself more than society will and that's just because women are not wired and even physically and mentally equipped for it. They can cope long enough to fool themselves into liking it but trust me, when the realization kicks in it's down hill from there.
Seems like the brother in white is the only brother there that reads his bible, understands it and follows it. The original design for the family is one man, one wife and children
Oluwole is so we'll spoken and an amazing husband...I pray his marriage lasts for eternity and his wife appreciates him as much as he appreciates her😌🤲 We need to protect him by all means❤
Both men and women have a natural tendency to look at others. But because of love and respect to my husband i do not even allow room for it. But these men be thinking they are the only ones with feelings nonsensical
Mr Chukwuma, animals also steal, kill, practice cannibalism, and even have same-sex relations. We are not like other animals, we are of higher intelligence and should act accordingly.
true ,its a crazy person who tries to say we are like animals they where created after there own kind and humans after ther kind in Gods image ,the sooner people know this the sooner we have love for eachnother and help not blame ,kill and abuse
@Davian775 That is why we have Laws and Religions. So that people don't act like degenerates and kill each other. And we agree as a collective on what is good and what is evil.
Besides being spiritual, as a woman I do not want to share my man or husband. As a Christian or not. Would these men be okay sharing a woman they actually love? I highly doubt. So then, they can't be shared either. I want to be special and the only one. Neither do I want to be cheated on. So this guy saying it's only religion and women need competition.....
They are selfish that's all. A man wouldn't even want to share his side chick (a woman he's using for just sex) with another man. And yet they want women to be perfectly ok with sharing their husband. Another debate topic should be are women polygamous. Men are acting like we don't have eyes and the desire to explore as well... but our upbringing, societal expectations, etc prevents us from admitting anything like that. But time and time again in our society we find married women cheating (and men raising a child that isn't theirs), single women sleeping around, etc. despite all the risks and slut shaming that may come with it.
I don't mean to be offensive but most if not all the guys in the polygamous section are not very knowledgeable. Talking about variety in material possessions and comparing it to human relationship is not a bright thing to do
I swear I felt so irritated seeing them comparing objects to human relationships! Even the elderly man too, they know what they are doing na, comparing objects to human relationships in this context?? Come on na! It's not bright at all..
Dear Ladies, choose a good man, a very kind man who is particular about your feelings, your personal development and your purpose in life. What are these people spewing???😢😢😢😢😢😢
All the panellist who spoke about polygamy, spoke from a selfish point of view, all I kept hearing was what the man wants. Wish they would have been asked what they thought about women marrying multiple husbands. The bible doesn’t endorse polygamy and that’s a statement of fact, so if we are going to uphold polygamy, let’s equally uphold polyandry. Otherwise, stick to your wife. Cheers!
@@davidamen7747 Bible passages promoting Polygamy please… Like one of the panelist’s rightly said, the bible was written from our direction, for correction in righteousness. We are not to emulate the lifestyle of the men in the bible because they all were sinful, if we excuse polygamy, then we can also excuse murder because so many biblical characters murdered. At the end of the day, the question is, what would Jesus do and what would he have us do?
@@Justugoeze If polygamy was really meant to be a sin don't you think God is wise enough to include it in the Bible for us to see... The only restrictions on polygamy in the Bible was when Apostle Paul instructed that any man with more than one wife should not hold position of authority in church so that he can focus more in governing his household. If it was really a since Jesus or any of t his apostle would have mentioned it in the Bible.
Actually most children that grew up in polygamy society they tend to be monogamist because of the traumas, jealous, envy, comparison, insult especially to the mother
😂just realized that one of the men supporting polygamy here supported feminism in a previous episode. I came back to point it out because it's so hilarious 😂😂😂
Biologically speaking men are designed to be polygamous . Due to extremely higher levels of testosterone ( men have on average between 17x-23x higher levels of testosterone than women) women are born with all the eggs that they produce. After puberty, they start dropping one egg a month ( on average), until menopause. Men produce millions of sperm cells every day from puberty until death. Once a woman gets pregnant, she’s out of commission for the next 3 years as far as reproduction is concerned, and she can typically only have one child within that time period. Men can have as many kids with as many women that they sleep with. Women are HYPERGAMOUS in nature ( quality over quantity). This is because they are vulnerable, especially during pregnancy and infants nursing. They also require massive amounts of resources and protection, that is why they’re attracted to taller fit men with excess resources.
11:34 imagine at this age, you are referencing animals for human behavior. Instead of searching human history, it's NatGeoWild. Stay with your fellow animals in the wild 😂😂
@@prophetofanu8933Apes and humans are different because humans have language, which helps us communicate and learn complex ideas more easily. In training, humans can follow detailed instructions and understand reasons behind tasks, while apes learn through simpler instructions and observation. Please don't use this comparison ever.😂
14:37 I want to see his reaction when his wife will go outside for variety 😂😂 it's only about what men want. Omo, I'm not anybody's property, open marriage or monogamy, me sef I get other spec
No, not all men are polygamous by nature. Some are, some are not. I am a man and I am monogamous by nature. The same thing applies for women. Some women are monogamous, some women are polygamous.
I have been waiting so long for another debate from Cruise about modern dating and gender topics! I love these so much! The insight is so much more refreshing than the American jubilee counterpart
Pro polygamy advocates forget that polygamy isn’t only for men. I want to hear their opinion when it comes to polyandry. They’re here shouting variety is the spice of life. Women don’t need spice?? 😂 If anything women have more reason to be polygamous to satisfy different needs
Most time we tend to frown at polygamy forgetting that a woman is always an accomplice to it, and to have polyandry, is difficult because most men will not act as an accomplice... Personally I believe that there is no manual in marriage.. either polygamy or monogamy nor is perfect or better than the other, it depend on various factors involves
Polyandry is nonsense. Sexually, women will never be able to bond with one man if she has several partners. Why do you think prostitutes or women who have more than two sexual partners cheat more compared to a virgin. You are talking from emotions
I enjoy watching this show❤. Been wanting such for a long time. A podcast where we can talk like human beings and respect other people's views without cussing at anyone or bringing violence to the table ❤. Kudos to you, Cruise🎉.
what people do not realise is , polygamy did not arise as a benefit for men, polygamy actually benefits women than men in the sense that , polygamy isnt because men get to have multiple wives but its so because 'every woman' will have a husband Many years ago, when men went to war(this is all over the world,from the vikings to roman empires etc) and lost their lives, they left behind a wife and children, it was necessary that these wives and children were supported therefore other men took on that responsibility thereby giving rise to having mulitple wives etc. it was about support system and it got stuck
Note that they are more unmarried men than women in Nigeria. So more women should take multiple husbands ( polyandry ) rather ,based on your logic. Anyways , I want men to also benefit . I go like marry you and your elderbrother 😂
@@ChallangeAcceptedd thanks for your comment, however what my comment was looking to establish is some form of a background history as to why polygamy might have started. as to whatever happens in our modern era, every man and woman to his or her own. hope this helps
This is a very mature conversation. Polygamy has its own benefits but monogamy proves to be the best. Polygamy works best when a man's riches is enormous
Polygamy doesn't have any benefits abeg. This is the thing with you people😂 other guy brought in research. Oga has probably never read a research paper in his life. The 'research' proves that polygamy is not good and is not doing anything good for anyone except fulfilling the selfish fleshly desires that you people worship so bad😭😭 Results of polygamous marriages are especially hard on the womem because they are more likely and prone to depression, jealousy, overall life dissatisfaction, marital dissatisfaction, etc. They are also more likely to be treated as objects than as a person with humans and emotions because of the many wives the husband has to 'cater' to and if you're unaware, that is how the concept of slaves began. You don't see people as your equal. There are also obvious negative effects on men, more on how they begin to view and value they wives, taking them for granted, good example is the man in a white shirt and jeans with his 'if she vex me, i will go see another woman'🙄. Absolutely so vile. Humans, especially women are built for emotional conmection. Men too, no matter how many times they'll be forming hard guy. That many wives doesn't guarantee providing for them all equally. And notice how it's almost only and always poor men that go into this. Marrying more wives than they can handle and having more children than they can handle as well. Just blindly going after fleshly desires. This is why im the bible says that the flesh is evil. The only 'good' thing I've ever read on this topic is about fulfilling sexual desire. Is it only sex that makes up a human being? Is it only sex that is doing you people? It's not a flex ohh abeg. Not a flex at all!
Something to implement with these series which could reveal itself as interesting is bringing in one person who doesn’t fully agree with any of the sides. after the sides have discussed the given prompt/question.This (neutral) person could now give their input or talk abt which side they are leaning towards This could be a really interesting idea.But it may be difficult to find someone TRULY neutral on the topic
Lol I’m not among ooo. However lots of women equally like variety but they mostly surpress it to honour their matrimonial vows, however, these polygamy upholding men want to eat their cake and have it. Ask same man if he’d allow his wife marry another woman and he’d frown at it. What is good for the goose is supposed to be good for the gander.
why the hell is the man saying if the wife is not behaving giving him whala he will say i go to the woman who not do therefore she will behave what a silly thinking
I wish there was a platform like this were single people would line up and give their opinions about things like this, a great avenue to block lots of people before them mistakenly chyke me. That man’s opinions was just giving me a headache
what a silly thinking, my thoughts exactly. He does not want wahala, just happiness in the marriage. What people don't know is that, your happiness is not dependent on anyone.
The argument about men wanting to follow the path of their fathers as regards polygamous/ monogamous marriages has a faulty premise. There are lot of men who prefer monogamy because they've seen the damage polygamy can do. My maternal grandfather had over 6 wives, and all his male children are monogamous
It is very good that Oluwole clarified it on the last prompt. Romantic love, not just love in general. Because you tell me you sont love all your children equally? What about your siblings? Your parents?
Black American polyamorist here. Just wanted to say that commitment to monogamy and commitment to individual people are two different things. Love while an action, is also abundant in energy. We see it with parents with multiple children. Time, resources, and physical energy are finite though. No two people are the same though so no two relationships are the same so the love will always be different. But unconditional love is possible and not solely transactional love. Also, I do believe majority of humans are nonmonogamous (there is a large umbrella of nonmonogamy. Not just polygamy nor polyamory). Majority of the species on Earth on nonmonogamous (males and females). But I do believe SOME people are inherently monogamous: they only have the capacity to romantically love one person at a time and/or pour into one relationship at a time. But I'm glad they are talking about the impact of colonization and Christianity cause that's real. I align with polyamory though. I as a woman desire multiple partners and the freedom of connection and don't believe that should be reserved for one person while others are monogamous to them.
Ahab - 1 wife Herod - 1 wife Ananias - 1 wife Pontius Pilate - 1 wife Jeroboam - 1 wife Nebuchadnezzar. - 1 wife Haman - 1 wife Zakayo -- 1wife And they all lost their way and betrayed God. 1. Abraham - 3 wives 2. Jacob - 4 wives 3. David - 4 wives 4. Solomon - 700 wives 5. Rehoboam - 18 wives 6. Abijah - 14 wives 7. Elkanah - 2 wives 8. Lemech - 2 wives And they all found favour in the eyes of the Lord. Whatever you do with this information is none of my business Alhamdulillah for Islam 🥰
Polygamy was our culture before the white man, including many unbeneficial things like child marriage, human sacrifices and authoritarian dictators in our Kings and monarchs. I guess we should also go back to those.
Polygamy in African culture was to secure heir 💀 or to show off how rich they are 😂 it was not required in my knowledge to marry more than one so it just became a trend
I'm very ignorant but I think between genders, neither is more "polygamous." Some people can handle having multiple romantic relationships. Some people can't even handle having one. Usually bad to make blanket statements.
It is rare for people to be polygamous, it always starts off mono then eventually they usually go "I'm dissatisfied with this aspect..yeah me too let bring someone else in" then what happens is one ends up leaving, usually the one that was there from the start... adding personal events , a friend of mines was actually kicked out of one because the other two were never satisfied with them ....but I agree that it's possible but it's the poor who do it more , some do it to run away from their certain partners by going to make babies with another, it's sad but it happens
People should know the difference between Culture and tradition. Culture can never be changed or evolve but Tradition can be changed. The lady that said that killing of twins was culture lied because killing of twins was a tradition and that's why it was stopped, it's like saying that the act of having a deity is culture which is not true.Having a deity is a tradition and can be changed not Culture. In Igbo we call it Omenala(culture) and Odinala(tradition).
Diversity is the spice of life and all the other analogies given is all good until we flip it the other way around. I am convinced all the men who defended polygamy would be against a woman having multiple husbands
for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
Apart from religion, the main reason I disagree with polygamy, is because of the affect it has on the children. Polygamy creates absent fathers, as you can't properly bond with many children even if you have financial stability
Kingsley was in theoAyoms reality show to marri a rich guy daughter. How did it go? He end up in the hospital... Polygamy hell. I grow up in one. Nothing good comes out of it..
Polygamy is celebrated when it favors the man. But is frowned up when it favors women. If the wives or women of those men supporting polygamy decided that they also wanted more than one man, all hell would break loose. It’s selfish and one sided.
exactly..because the man cant control you if the woman have more than one husband ,it is all about control not true love God said he is a jealous God only be faithful to HIM ..
I dont support polygamy, but let's be real. If a woman tries it, it will ruin her life period. She will be a whole immediately without delay, and that's how the world sees it.
Polygamy does favour women, as it gives every woman the chance to be a wife. Monogamy leads to leftover women that are bitter.
@@sanguiniuswarhammer4669that is the stupidest thing I’ve probably ever read
rubbish@@sanguiniuswarhammer4669
Is woman food? Is woman car? Why do they keep comparing women to objects???
Because we are property to them, not human beings with feelings, ideas, etc
If the women who are popular emphasize romance in terms of commercial value and comfort, it sends a message to men that relationships are more about materialism than genuine connection. Meaning you can be bought of the shelve 😢
objects to be acquired
SaidaBoj and her likes made sure women are objectified.
That's the danger of allowing people like Saida Boj bring up useless ideology in podcats
That is a real point for concern o, that wife is a whole human being not a property , u can seek variety in things not in a human , can they for variety in kids too or go and seek variety in their mothers and families
Now if the shoe is on the other foot, all hell with break lose. Men love themselves more than they love the woman they choose period.
if u can find a man that will let u marry another good 4 u
Nonsense.
1. Biologically speaking men are designed to be polygamous . Due to extremely higher levels of testosterone ( men have on average between 17x-23x higher levels of testosterone than women) women are born with all the eggs that they produce. After puberty, they start dropping one egg a month ( on average), until menopause. Men produce millions of sperm cells every day from puberty until death. Once a woman gets pregnant, she’s out of commission for the next 3 years as far as reproduction is concerned, and she can typically only have one child within that time period. Men can have as many kids with as many women that they sleep with.
2. Women are HYPERGAMOUS in nature ( quality over quantity). This is because they are vulnerable, especially during pregnancy and infants nursing. They also require massive amounts of resources and protection, that’s why they’re attracted to taller fit men with excess resources.
Esp the African man
Cry
the man (in white clothes)who understands about love is a blessing to the world
I am telling you . From his mindset, I can tell you his wife must be lucky.
@@ChallangeAcceptedd not only his wife any buisness dealings or friends ,his character is to have good intentions
Exactly! I love the fact that he didn't pretend..but he plainly said he chose commitment and with the help of God he will continue in it..
That's everything to girl but for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
That's everything to girl but for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
As a Muslim, it doesn't matter if you're rich. Some just don't want other wives. Mostly, it's always the poor that have many wives.
Right!! I'm a Christian by the way! But in the past in our religion. Man were able to have multiple wives of they were capable of doing so. Most of the time those "extra " wives were widow with kids
I am blown about Muslims have multiple wives because of their religion. The Quaran says do not take multiple wives unless you satisfy all of them equally emotionally, physically and financially. Most, if not all, can not fulfill that. It wasn't even fulfilled by their own prophet.
@@duckruler5507 Fr, and it's not because scripture allows men to have multiple wives (it doesn't), but because it says to take care of widows is a way of practicing true religion.
Your men will still have 72 virgins in heaven that's just how your Allah made it to be and that's just lustful and lack self control.
I can't believe you called yourself a Muslim, which one is mostly poor people have many wives.
Little did you know the reason behind allowing Muslim men to have more than one wife?
Tho it was made clear they should stick to one if they know they can't manage them in terms of justice.
Think of the population of women to men (4 to 1), why do you think there are more prostitutes and the likes. Let me draw the curtain here.
If your husband is giving you headache, carry your phone and call your side dude😂😂
@@black-te4tn real!!
Rabid feminist spotted 😂.
or have multiple
Try it please and you'll soon understand why men and women are different. You'll hate yourself more than society will and that's just because women are not wired and even physically and mentally equipped for it. They can cope long enough to fool themselves into liking it but trust me, when the realization kicks in it's down hill from there.
Competition is good for business after all
Seems like the brother in white is the only brother there that reads his bible, understands it and follows it. The original design for the family is one man, one wife and children
Gbam. Blessed are you and him sef. Na God go bless una.
Two parents and children
And those classless men comparing women to items it’s just disgusting
Oluwole is so we'll spoken and an amazing husband...I pray his marriage lasts for eternity and his wife appreciates him as much as he appreciates her😌🤲
We need to protect him by all means❤
Amen. Thank you ❤
Amen!
Monalisa dey tear English.... Omooooeaaaauuuxxxx 😭
English Abi accent?
I was annoyed everytime she spoke. It’s too forced
Both men and women have a natural tendency to look at others. But because of love and respect to my husband i do not even allow room for it. But these men be thinking they are the only ones with feelings nonsensical
Omo as Monalisa first talk I burst laugh 😂😂
The accent is here and there
forced accent
@ukiastardoll7864 it's obviously not fake
Monalisa o 😂 Phoneé is not by force
@@choirofangels6228it’s obviously fake she’s trying to sound posh British lol
The woman on white is so smart
"If you feel like killing someone, would you say you're murderous in nature?"😂
Mr Chukwuma, animals also steal, kill, practice cannibalism, and even have same-sex relations. We are not like other animals, we are of higher intelligence and should act accordingly.
true ,its a crazy person who tries to say we are like animals they where created after there own kind and humans after ther kind in Gods image ,the sooner people know this the sooner we have love for eachnother and help not blame ,kill and abuse
What happens if we take law and religion away? That’s stopping majority humans from these actions
@Davian775 That is why we have Laws and Religions. So that people don't act like degenerates and kill each other. And we agree as a collective on what is good and what is evil.
@@Davian775 stop acting like you're not benefiting from these legal and moral constraints
Many animals also mate for life too. But their NatGeo wild only allows them to see animals to go around jumping from one female to another
Besides being spiritual, as a woman I do not want to share my man or husband. As a Christian or not. Would these men be okay sharing a woman they actually love? I highly doubt. So then, they can't be shared either. I want to be special and the only one. Neither do I want to be cheated on.
So this guy saying it's only religion and women need competition.....
I want to marry you
They are selfish that's all. A man wouldn't even want to share his side chick (a woman he's using for just sex) with another man. And yet they want women to be perfectly ok with sharing their husband.
Another debate topic should be are women polygamous. Men are acting like we don't have eyes and the desire to explore as well... but our upbringing, societal expectations, etc prevents us from admitting anything like that. But time and time again in our society we find married women cheating (and men raising a child that isn't theirs), single women sleeping around, etc. despite all the risks and slut shaming that may come with it.
Women do need competition. They start behaving lackadaisical towards their husband if allowed too much comfort
The man who spoke on marriage and commitment, Wheres my guy like this omo?
His wife is indeed lucky.
Variety is the the spice of life and a major source of chaos. Choose wisely.
Thank you!
I don't mean to be offensive but most if not all the guys in the polygamous section are not very knowledgeable. Talking about variety in material possessions and comparing it to human relationship is not a bright thing to do
I swear I felt so irritated seeing them comparing objects to human relationships! Even the elderly man too, they know what they are doing na, comparing objects to human relationships in this context?? Come on na! It's not bright at all..
Dear Ladies, choose a good man, a very kind man who is particular about your feelings, your personal development and your purpose in life. What are these people spewing???😢😢😢😢😢😢
Trash
They are spewing biological facts
Cruise... Sha do the Polyandry version
Comparing women, humans o to cars and food is the most stupid thing to do
Thank you
God bless you please
Extremely
But women keep saying things like "can u afford me"
Women objectify themselves a lot without even knowing sometimes
It's not stupid, and I am monogamous by the way.
What is doing me right now is that people's husbands are sitting right there, defending that it's in their nature to cheat
Basically letting them know that sooner or later, I will cheat on you 😂 and yo, it isn’t my fault because I am polygamous in nature 😂
@@LME101_soon now or later ke?? people that are already cheating😂
I thought women wanted honesty?
70% of Many rivalries, hate, killings and jealousy in families occur mainly in polygamous homes, u see step wives and step kids hating each other.
correct, monogamy is best for societal organization
Why That Monalisa girl accent Dey vex me like this 😭the accent get confusion sef😂😂 shey na British or American 🤣
E get touch of Indian inside sef😂😂😂
Reminds me of episode of Junky Students when they got a new teacher😂
Na the comment be this 😂😂😂
She is trying too hard she needs to relax 😂
British
These men in the poly section are werey full time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kingsley looks like Myron from FreshnFit and i cant unsee it...he thinks and talks like him too
@@jaughnekowexactly, maybe they are related😂
All the panellist who spoke about polygamy, spoke from a selfish point of view, all I kept hearing was what the man wants. Wish they would have been asked what they thought about women marrying multiple husbands. The bible doesn’t endorse polygamy and that’s a statement of fact, so if we are going to uphold polygamy, let’s equally uphold polyandry. Otherwise, stick to your wife. Cheers!
And who told you the bible is against polygamy? Use logic instead of emotion
@@davidamen7747 Bible passages promoting Polygamy please…
Like one of the panelist’s rightly said, the bible was written from our direction, for correction in righteousness. We are not to emulate the lifestyle of the men in the bible because they all were sinful, if we excuse polygamy, then we can also excuse murder because so many biblical characters murdered. At the end of the day, the question is, what would Jesus do and what would he have us do?
@@davidamen7747 oya prove how the Bible approves of it.
14:18 I see... this is a good example
@@Justugoeze If polygamy was really meant to be a sin don't you think God is wise enough to include it in the Bible for us to see... The only restrictions on polygamy in the Bible was when Apostle Paul instructed that any man with more than one wife should not hold position of authority in church so that he can focus more in governing his household. If it was really a since Jesus or any of t
his apostle would have mentioned it in the Bible.
The man on white is so sound. His logic and arguments are sound.
“It’s our culture” says men wearing trousers 😂
Is trouser African culture?
Any small thing, "King", "King", "King"
King with this your trouser? 😂
Oluwole is the saving grace of this conversation. Mona Lisa is the comic relief 😂
Actually most children that grew up in polygamy society they tend to be monogamist because of the traumas, jealous, envy, comparison, insult especially to the mother
😂just realized that one of the men supporting polygamy here supported feminism in a previous episode. I came back to point it out because it's so hilarious 😂😂😂
The polygamous men cannot wear one cloth all week. Mmm my question is can their wives wear one cloth all week?
It's them comparing women to clothes for me 😢 .....
Biologically speaking men are designed to be polygamous . Due to extremely higher levels of testosterone ( men have on average between 17x-23x higher levels of testosterone than women) women are born with all the eggs that they produce. After puberty, they start dropping one egg a month ( on average), until menopause. Men produce millions of sperm cells every day from puberty until death. Once a woman gets pregnant, she’s out of commission for the next 3 years as far as reproduction is concerned, and she can typically only have one child within that time period. Men can have as many kids with as many women that they sleep with.
Women are HYPERGAMOUS in nature ( quality over quantity). This is because they are vulnerable, especially during pregnancy and infants nursing. They also require massive amounts of resources and protection, that is why they’re attracted to taller fit men with excess resources.
They have to collectively share 1 piece of dirty cloth.
I think you need to bring children from polygamous homes to come and share their opinions
11:34 imagine at this age, you are referencing animals for human behavior. Instead of searching human history, it's NatGeoWild. Stay with your fellow animals in the wild 😂😂
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Don't mind them😭😭God gave them dominion, but they're still associating themselves with animals😭😭
Broke my tooth😂😂😂😂
Humans are animals. We are of the Ape specie
@@prophetofanu8933Apes and humans are different because humans have language, which helps us communicate and learn complex ideas more easily. In training, humans can follow detailed instructions and understand reasons behind tasks, while apes learn through simpler instructions and observation. Please don't use this comparison ever.😂
Thank you, Oluwole, for such an insightful perspective!
The man on white 👏🏾👏🏾 One crate of cold Pepsi for you 👏🏾wow.
Notice how the polygamist never answered the question " If your daughters husband takes another wife how would you feel"
14:37 I want to see his reaction when his wife will go outside for variety 😂😂 it's only about what men want. Omo, I'm not anybody's property, open marriage or monogamy, me sef I get other spec
Open marriage or monogamy. Gbam!
See how her accent sounds like that of AI😂😂
Monalisa’s accent wan kill me abeg😂
No, not all men are polygamous by nature. Some are, some are not. I am a man and I am monogamous by nature. The same thing applies for women. Some women are monogamous, some women are polygamous.
No, it's not by "nature", it's by choice!!!
stop denying your biology
This would definitely be an interesting episode
I agree😂
Hello, @@mosesmathias7708
We tried reaching out to you for an episode you wanted to feature in.
Please can you send us a DM on Instagram?
Ohh really, will do
Oluwole God bless you
U sound silly. Christianity is stupid and faulse, and ppl can be poly or mono. Its in nibidys nature or dna to be either
Notice how its only men on the polygamy side
That part. Open it up foor everyone. It's never fun when the rabbit has the gun.
It makes sense to me. Because women want a high value man to spend his resources on her and her offspring alone 😂.
@@pkom6418 I see nothing wrong with that
@@VâyasylvanaA rich man marrying multiple wives does the community and future kids a great favor.
@@pkom6418 how
I have been waiting so long for another debate from Cruise about modern dating and gender topics! I love these so much! The insight is so much more refreshing than the American jubilee counterpart
Genuinely curious, is that Monalisa's actual accent? Listening to her was quite hard
Pro polygamy advocates forget that polygamy isn’t only for men. I want to hear their opinion when it comes to polyandry. They’re here shouting variety is the spice of life. Women don’t need spice?? 😂
If anything women have more reason to be polygamous to satisfy different needs
We don't need spice 😞😞
As women all we need is salt 😂
Ask the polygamist if they are also for polyandry.
Thank youuuu, because people here seem to think polygamy is synonymous to polygyny. What about polyandry??
Exactly... They don't get polygamy is an umbrella term.
Most time we tend to frown at polygamy forgetting that a woman is always an accomplice to it, and to have polyandry, is difficult because most men will not act as an accomplice... Personally I believe that there is no manual in marriage.. either polygamy or monogamy nor is perfect or better than the other, it depend on various factors involves
Polyandry is nonsense.
Sexually, women will never be able to bond with one man if she has several partners.
Why do you think prostitutes or women who have more than two sexual partners cheat more compared to a virgin.
You are talking from emotions
I'm so sorry but sista Monalisa needs to relax with the queen's english accent 😂😂... it's giving 'china made' 🙈
she may be from london
@@ilovepdubshe definitely isn’t that’s not an authentic London accent
I enjoy watching this show❤. Been wanting such for a long time. A podcast where we can talk like human beings and respect other people's views without cussing at anyone or bringing violence to the table ❤. Kudos to you, Cruise🎉.
Do one for “are women polygamous?”.
what people do not realise is , polygamy did not arise as a benefit for men, polygamy actually benefits women than men in the sense that , polygamy isnt because men get to have multiple wives but its so because 'every woman' will have a husband
Many years ago, when men went to war(this is all over the world,from the vikings to roman empires etc) and lost their lives, they left behind a wife and children, it was necessary that these wives and children were supported therefore other men took on that responsibility thereby giving rise to having mulitple wives etc. it was about support system and it got stuck
Note that they are more unmarried men than women in Nigeria. So more women should take multiple husbands ( polyandry ) rather ,based on your logic. Anyways , I want men to also benefit .
I go like marry you and your elderbrother 😂
Imagine having the nerve to say “I will clean up this mess I made by forcing you into a life of slavery at my side. You are welcome” 😂😂
@@ChallangeAcceptedd thanks for your comment, however what my comment was looking to establish is some form of a background history as to why polygamy might have started. as to whatever happens in our modern era, every man and woman to his or her own. hope this helps
@@kwahuprince5229 ok , I get your point now. So you are talking about how it originated not justifying it. Valid
5:48 The dude explained everything.
This is a very mature conversation. Polygamy has its own benefits but monogamy proves to be the best. Polygamy works best when a man's riches is enormous
Polygamy doesn't have any benefits abeg. This is the thing with you people😂 other guy brought in research. Oga has probably never read a research paper in his life. The 'research' proves that polygamy is not good and is not doing anything good for anyone except fulfilling the selfish fleshly desires that you people worship so bad😭😭
Results of polygamous marriages are especially hard on the womem because they are more likely and prone to depression, jealousy, overall life dissatisfaction, marital dissatisfaction, etc. They are also more likely to be treated as objects than as a person with humans and emotions because of the many wives the husband has to 'cater' to and if you're unaware, that is how the concept of slaves began. You don't see people as your equal.
There are also obvious negative effects on men, more on how they begin to view and value they wives, taking them for granted, good example is the man in a white shirt and jeans with his 'if she vex me, i will go see another woman'🙄. Absolutely so vile. Humans, especially women are built for emotional conmection. Men too, no matter how many times they'll be forming hard guy. That many wives doesn't guarantee providing for them all equally. And notice how it's almost only and always poor men that go into this. Marrying more wives than they can handle and having more children than they can handle as well. Just blindly going after fleshly desires. This is why im the bible says that the flesh is evil. The only 'good' thing I've ever read on this topic is about fulfilling sexual desire. Is it only sex that makes up a human being? Is it only sex that is doing you people? It's not a flex ohh abeg. Not a flex at all!
I beg to differ monogamy works best Everytime..
What are the benefits to polygamy beyond the man's seggsual options??
I love this show ... I get to learn different perspectives of societal issues/topics
Mr Oluwole may God bless you Sir❤
Something to implement with these series which could reveal itself as interesting is bringing in one person who doesn’t fully agree with any of the sides. after the sides have discussed the given prompt/question.This (neutral) person could now give their input or talk abt which side they are leaning towards This could be a really interesting idea.But it may be difficult to find someone TRULY neutral on the topic
I love this channel walai. God bless the content ideologist
That is a liar not all animals sleep around.
Some animals have one mate for live.
Please check that out.
Barn owls, penguins and so on.
Swansss
Mostly bird species
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Nope. Wolves, termites and many others do
I pray that God blessed this oluwole guy
How about a conversation on polyandry???
The way this Kingsley man is defending polygamy is annoying…. Nawa o
Exactly. I think so too.
Dear ladies, know your worth.
they cannot because they want a superior Man
Is this the African version of Jubilee?
Nigerian 😅
Yes it is
Nigerian
Women who like variety please gather here.
Here!!!
Lol I’m not among ooo. However lots of women equally like variety but they mostly surpress it to honour their matrimonial vows, however, these polygamy upholding men want to eat their cake and have it. Ask same man if he’d allow his wife marry another woman and he’d frown at it. What is good for the goose is supposed to be good for the gander.
why the hell is the man saying if the wife is not behaving giving him whala he will say i go to the woman who not do therefore she will behave what a silly thinking
I know right, as if he is a prize to be won. This same person will be so mad if his wife made the same statement
I wish there was a platform like this were single people would line up and give their opinions about things like this, a great avenue to block lots of people before them mistakenly chyke me. That man’s opinions was just giving me a headache
@@Justugoeze 🤣🤣🤣
what a silly thinking, my thoughts exactly. He does not want wahala, just happiness in the marriage. What people don't know is that, your happiness is not dependent on anyone.
The argument about men wanting to follow the path of their fathers as regards polygamous/ monogamous marriages has a faulty premise. There are lot of men who prefer monogamy because they've seen the damage polygamy can do.
My maternal grandfather had over 6 wives, and all his male children are monogamous
The girl in Orange has an American and English accent at the same time. It's so funny 😂😂😂
It is very good that Oluwole clarified it on the last prompt. Romantic love, not just love in general. Because you tell me you sont love all your children equally? What about your siblings? Your parents?
I actually like the concept please keep up the good work and I’m definitely subscribing
Black American polyamorist here. Just wanted to say that commitment to monogamy and commitment to individual people are two different things. Love while an action, is also abundant in energy. We see it with parents with multiple children. Time, resources, and physical energy are finite though. No two people are the same though so no two relationships are the same so the love will always be different. But unconditional love is possible and not solely transactional love.
Also, I do believe majority of humans are nonmonogamous (there is a large umbrella of nonmonogamy. Not just polygamy nor polyamory). Majority of the species on Earth on nonmonogamous (males and females). But I do believe SOME people are inherently monogamous: they only have the capacity to romantically love one person at a time and/or pour into one relationship at a time.
But I'm glad they are talking about the impact of colonization and Christianity cause that's real.
I align with polyamory though. I as a woman desire multiple partners and the freedom of connection and don't believe that should be reserved for one person while others are monogamous to them.
It's the culture that evolves. It's common sense, mindset and education.
Ahab - 1 wife
Herod - 1 wife
Ananias - 1 wife
Pontius Pilate - 1 wife
Jeroboam - 1 wife
Nebuchadnezzar. - 1 wife
Haman - 1 wife
Zakayo -- 1wife
And they all lost their way and betrayed God.
1. Abraham - 3 wives
2. Jacob - 4 wives
3. David - 4 wives
4. Solomon - 700 wives
5. Rehoboam - 18 wives
6. Abijah - 14 wives
7. Elkanah - 2 wives
8. Lemech - 2 wives
And they all found favour in the eyes of the Lord.
Whatever you do with this information is none of my business
Alhamdulillah for Islam 🥰
Marry 700 wives and sew if they can all love you lmao
Who brought fake UK accent to the scene??😅
Kingsley looks like he has multiple wives and still cheats.
Wetin monalisa come do here? Or they just put her because of the accent?
Everyone was vibing except the lady in orange I think. She seemed pissed
12:12 Shey Monalisa dey read news ni? 😂
Polygamy was our culture before the white man, including many unbeneficial things like child marriage, human sacrifices and authoritarian dictators in our Kings and monarchs.
I guess we should also go back to those.
Polygamy in African culture was to secure heir 💀 or to show off how rich they are 😂 it was not required in my knowledge to marry more than one so it just became a trend
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Just like all the things I said above had use.
Sure it was a trend among rich, but after we knew better we decided to stop it.
True, culture is ever evolving
Fr. Make we go back patapata.
Monalisa sounds like Siri
The Lady on red English dey pain my ear
The man on white is a good and God fearing husband.
Oluwole of hindsight podcast🎉🎉
I'm very ignorant but I think between genders, neither is more "polygamous."
Some people can handle having multiple romantic relationships. Some people can't even handle having one. Usually bad to make blanket statements.
It is rare for people to be polygamous, it always starts off mono then eventually they usually go "I'm dissatisfied with this aspect..yeah me too let bring someone else in" then what happens is one ends up leaving, usually the one that was there from the start... adding personal events , a friend of mines was actually kicked out of one because the other two were never satisfied with them ....but I agree that it's possible but it's the poor who do it more , some do it to run away from their certain partners by going to make babies with another, it's sad but it happens
Finally yall have changed your subscription pitch
Cos they’ve finally gotten to 50k subs I think😅
It’s always men wey Dey talk if na womAn marry 2 husband now she be ashewo 😂
I don't have a problem with men that are polygamous ooo. As long as the women they marry are also allowed to be polygamous too.
This conversation is one of the most uninteligent i've watched on this channel.....But i love CRUISE regardless
The Brother in white tho....Spot On!
Mona lisa accent sounds forced fake. Where is she from what part of Europe
Marry more than one wife now if you get the power. By the time they finish with you. Ara e mabale.
You gerrit😂😂😂
People should know the difference between Culture and tradition.
Culture can never be changed or evolve but Tradition can be changed.
The lady that said that killing of twins was culture lied because killing of twins was a tradition and that's why it was stopped, it's like saying that the act of having a deity is culture which is not true.Having a deity is a tradition and can be changed not Culture.
In Igbo we call it Omenala(culture) and Odinala(tradition).
Polygamy is an African culture not an African tradition
Diversity is the spice of life and all the other analogies given is all good until we flip it the other way around. I am convinced all the men who defended polygamy would be against a woman having multiple husbands
for me I can't cheat I'm principle and always cherish to be responsible but if I have riches I will be polygamist. That sure money change people to go for desires
Apart from religion, the main reason I disagree with polygamy, is because of the affect it has on the children.
Polygamy creates absent fathers, as you can't properly bond with many children even if you have financial stability
This variety that they keep talking about, it's the spice of life, abi? Cos i don't remember it being the spice of men.
i just want to know if the polygamy men would keep this energy if it was a woman that was polyandry
Was I the only one that observed the women were pro-monogamy and the men were majorly pro-polygamy?
It tells you that men generally can’t be with one woman, and the women hate to share their man with other women …
Why is there no polygynist in the conversation?
@15:55 What sort of accent is this one...
Kingsley was in theoAyoms reality show to marri a rich guy daughter. How did it go? He end up in the hospital... Polygamy hell. I grow up in one. Nothing good comes out of it..