Ever since I mounted my first set of Michelins, I instantly became a life time customer. They inspire an incredible amount of confidence from the very first ride.
MESSAGE FOR ALL TYRES COMPANIES !!! ....take it on wet, switch off electronics and drop the knee down, measure the leaning angle, note when the tire loses the grip and use different corner speed, ...that's what I call the TEST and what people wanna see!!!
Ask and you shall receive. Day 2 on the wet Tail of the Dragon while on our way to Alaska on two Yamaha FJ09's. Wore out a set in 6 weeks but 12200 miles. czcams.com/video/Z3jEhcWaPvU/video.html
Just had these fitted today on my 2016 Honda NC 750x and as soon as I left the garage I instantly felt the difference. The bike wanted to lean in the corners more than the stock Dunlop trails. I immediately felt confident in the corners and they have not even been worn in yet! As always a great review Lemmy!
@ Boris Jacquin - I go riding on the country lanes with very steep bends in the UK and the bike feels planted and sticks like glue! best upgrade YET! Enjoy! The Dunlops were horrible tyres!
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Boris Jacquin & OperationFoxley19441, did you choose Standard or GT version Road 5 for yours NC750X? Thank you!
I've just had some PR5s fitted to my daily. I've always used Michelin pilot series. They are the best all rounder but really stand above all others in the wet.
Been using Michelin Pilot Roads since version 2. Undoubtedly the best tyres you can by for use in all weathers on real roads. The wet weather grip (very important in the rainy North of England) is fantastic.
That was probably one of the most informational 6 minutes on a tire there could be. Great job! I think lemy might be trying to get a PR job at Michelin
Got mine in Summer of 2018, and covered Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Missouri and Arkansas twistes on a Kaw Versys. 4,200 miles later these are without a doubt the best tires I've run. They dont't show wear yet. The only pucker moment was laying way over into a curve and hit a loose gravel washout and the rear broke loose momentarily, then hooked back up and flowed out straight. Wet weather it's best ever tire.
Twisties in the rain is a lot of fun and helps to learn smoothness of inputs. Speeds are lower but it is incredibly satisfying. I agree about the sides having solid surface.
Shit I do 😂 rain snow etc got to test bike and personal skills iv road in a storm where I had to have my feet planted doing 50mph in pitch black roads lol scariest shit to experience
I have the pr4 last year and it was great riding in the rain, even through torrential downpours. rode 400 miles one way through the northeast in the rain and it handled marvelously. going into sub 40f temperature it still had grip. nice to see they made even better improvements for the pr5
I have the pilot 4’s on my r1200r, they are simply superb, especially in wet weather. Currently on 5k miles and wear is minimal, when they do need replacing, these will be the ones. Confidence and trust in tyres is priceless.
How are they going 2 months in?? Think these are top of my list but looking to hear from anyone who's put a few miles on them! Any wet weather riding at all by chance? It's very wet where I'm from!
I went from 2CT and my lean speed and confidence went up. I like the feeling of the tire feeling soft at 36/38 when leaning on a roundabout. It means you are gripping. 2CTs felt hard but I think they were old.
I've got these mounted on my 2015 ZX10R and they feel great! You don't need slicks to enjoy the curves! These babys work just great! Looking to go Power 5 next time but Road 5's have been great!
How did it wear over time? I just installed Road 6 on my CB650R, these are supposed to have a bit more tire life than 5s. I've only put around 100 miles on them but they put the stock Dunlops to shame.
I just installed new Michelin Road 5 Tires on my FJR. First impressions after 100 miles: If you are looking for a smooth riding tire like Bridgestone 023 Sport Touring tires, these Michelins are not. They have a stiff sidewall the does not flex much. You can feel every road ripple and small bumps on the road surface even if they are smooth. The trade off is Bridgestones wear faster and the tread squares off sooner than you expect (Florida roads). So it's too early to give a verdict on the Road 5 GT tires. Dialing down spring preload, rebound damping and compression damping plus lower tire pressure on the front fork a click at a time will help.
Husky Jason Momoa knows his tires. I have used PR4's for touring, they were great for durability (2x the life of Angel GT's) but were squirmy and not confidence inspiring in corners (prone to mid corner hops during hard riding or with touring loads) - these sneakers look to have some key tread profile improvements.
Just back from a short canyon run on a new front Road 5 on my FZ6. I have to say it's like I have a new bike. The cornering is amazing - the bike just wants to carve like I'm on skis. i will have to get used to it but it sure makes riding straight lines dull as dirt.
timber_beast glad to see I’m not the only one riding an fz6. Low sided in October due to my old tires not having enough grip. You’ve convinced me on getting these tires over the Q3+ that my friends are riding on
Fz6 rider here. Angel st tires I have are worn out currently (the rear atleast) and I'll be getting pr5's. The grip of the angel st's never let me down. I took them to the tail of the dragon 2 weeks after installing them and I was scraping peg so much at the dragon it freaked me out. I hope the pr5's have the same dry grip that I'm used to. The wet grip attribute is strictly for safety if I get caught in some rain. Angel st rear milage sucked but so does my gas mileage. All because I love to hammer on the throttle everywhere.
I have the same bike with the same front tire. But I am experiencing a very loud annoying noise somewhere between 40-75 mph. The frequency of the noise increases with the speed. Over 75 mph it almost becomes to high-frequent for my human ears. I am not entirely sure about it being the tire, so I would like hear your experience.
@@MetallicaSindre maybe it could be your wheel bearings are going bad. But definitely get it sorted soon. You never want to wreck due to a mechanical problem on your machine
Tire X was hilarious. Let's jerk the throttle on and off thru the corner for some dramatic effect. I've ridden pretty much every brand of 17" rubber over the decades and nothing ever rode like that around a mild bend. Hell, 20 years ago, I'd have the rubber feathered to the edges on both "sport touring" tires in a week. I'd get about 6k out of a rear then too. Nothing's changed, but the model names. The hype never ends. Great video on "The Bike Show" about 15 year old Duc Monster vs a new Monster S. With a pipe and a map, the old Monster 1000 walked away from the brand new 1200 S. The new one has all the electronics to keep the eager newbie from killing himself though...
Got a a set of these on my 2017 SV650. They’ve lasted 17000km so far. Getting a bit thin in the middle now, so I’ve ordered a set of Road 6 to replace them. It rains a lot where I live and I love their wet weather performance. Though in the dry they’re fantastic.
My Pilot4's....couldn't ask for a better wet tire. I run a 2002 BMW K1200RT @ 635lbs and we have blasted down the highway @ 70+MPH in heave rains..... never skipped a beat. I'm all about wet tires...I'll be getting some of these..Thanks!
I got road 5 under my Yamaha R1 and i hope the harder layer will work better. The government agency who take cares of the roads here in Iceland doesn't pave all the roads, instead they use oil gravel that will be compacted by drivers over time, but while it is compacting it works like a sandpaper on the tire...
I don't know man the pr4s were pretty spectacular and anything better is just better. Even if he's reading off of their marketing material, as long as you have functional bs detectors, that should be enough information.
It's raining here in Oregon as I type this. Getting my 5's put on tomorrow. My CBR1000 came stock with these horrible Dunlop Sportmaxx tires. 5,800 miles on them and no confidence in them on dry or especially in the wet. They have always felt like there is no grip or feedback when cornering. Hoping I like these 5's much better. My tires "look" fine but I don't trust em.
I ride an FZ09, my last set were Q3+. I got... 2800... yes.. 2800 miles on the rear. Smh. I definitely felt the softer compound and grab from the Q3+ but now since I switched to the Road 5's I feel the road better. Still learning how hard I can push the grip in twistes but I'm satisfied with the switch. Looking forward to learning with the Road 5's knowing I'll get more life out of them.
Never got on with 4's, IMO, they just didn't seem to like being pushed hard as well as 3's and struggled to get up to temp in the wet and cold conditions we see in the UK. Even more of an irritation was they stopped making 3's in a 190/50, no way I was putting 4's on my 1290 so moved on to a different brand. Hopefully the 5's are much improved, the SDR needs some new boots in the spring.
The ton of siping on the PR4's was great in the wet but made them squirmy when you're riding hard (when new... it improved when the tread life got down below 50%). I just mounted road5's and I'm hopeful I'll get the life of the 4's but without the squirming.
Put a set on today,tomorrow i go off to scuff-land and see.My tire's have been nothing but Bridgestone's,love them but i finally be waiting for that right Michelin to come along,hope this is it.I did try the perelli once,sold them on CL 1 month later,Junk....I ride a 2007 Ducati ST3S ABS..Thanks Revzilla
RevZilla, tell these manufactures they are missing out on a huge market share of smaller bikes (Honda CBR 250, Kawasaki Ninja 300, Yamaha R3) stock sizing.
You can use 150. The way tire fits you look at the rim width and see if they fit in with the manufacturer parameters. If it fits then it won't squish the peaks and you're Gucci. Ari Henning put on a 150 rear for his CBR300R racebike I think.
Glad to see they took away some of the sipes, especially from the front tire. The PR4's were great when new, but went downhill fast. They had a unique wear pattern because of all the sipes that gave the tire a very strange feel past a few thousand k. I found this out on a few bikes that the suspension was properly tuned. I'm interested to give these a try to see how they compare. I'd like to also compare them to the Roadsmart 3's that I'm using now. Thanks for the info.
Ran my first set or Road 5’s Won’t buy again! At 90 degrees outside temperature, back tire is all over the road😬 Cooler temps it’s a great set of tires. Not good for hot days, desert 🌵 states, etc.
That is definitely true here in the deep south I noticed folding in the rear in 90 plus degree heat but cold wet is where this tire shine like a diamond 👍
I bought the DUNLOP ROADSPORT II 's for my yamaha fz09 after cooking through two sets of Bridgestone battlax s20's. The RS2'S ARE an amazing tire. Great performance. I highly recommend them. However i will be getting the Q4s for next season for a street tire.
I am not convinced but probably I am on the wrong track (ops, sorry). How can BOTH wet AND dry grip be improved? How can wet grip be improved by removing rain drainage and adding rubber? I am stumped out on this one! It seems to counter common wisdom.... I have the Road (1, if you will) on my 916, and they are magnificent! Very smooth cornering, excellent grip when wet. And let's be honest, when it's wet one must not ride like crazy right?
Just put a brand new 4 on my cbr1000f hasn't even touched the road. Had to ditch the 3 on the back after a puncture ended its life. The 3 on the front is nearly new looking forward to bedding the new 4 in and see how it feels.
I have had Road Pilot 3's and 4's they were very good tyres. The Road Pilot 5 however is beyond rubbish. Major step backwards. I used to get about 12k miles with a front and about 8k miles rear. With the Pilot 5 the rear is ok but the front is only getting about 4.5k miles and wears very odd. Getting more miles out of a rear than a front, that's just bonkers. This has happened twice now. Michelin refunded the first but not the second. Definitely go elsewhere for your rubber. I don't do off road and tyre pressures are checked every time I go out.
Hey RevZilla, based on mileage alone, should I go for the Michelin Road 5 or the Dunlop roadsmart 4? I currently have a kawasaki z400 but I'm going to upgrade to the Triumph Trident which both tires are available for.
I live in a vert wet climate and want a good wet tire for my sport touring bike. I've been looking at the pr4 and the pr5. I like the road 5 but the center contact patch worries me that I'd hydroplane in a straight line because it has no center tread unlike the pr4. Any input would he greatly appreciated.
That looks more like a dry-biased tire. Hope they keep making the PR4 if first gut reaction is any factor. It seems to have a lot more dry tread on the outer portion of the tire - even with the larger sipes. Looks sketchy. I will have to try them eventually I suppose. Hope some testing can confirm wet weather performance.
Okay so which one is better for my 2010 CBR 600RR ? Michelin Road 5 or Michelin Power RS ? I want to "upgrade" my bike with new tires for the next year. Mostly I use it everyday ( home - work ), city ride on free time, some trips and also next year I want to go to the track, what interests me most is the grip of the tyre especially on cornering, i don't want to be in a corner and my rear tyre to start wiggleing and also I want to stay on 2 wheels in case the rain will begin to fall when I'm on the road (i'm not interesting in doing "agressive" leaning on cornering on wet road, only a bit leaning to turn left/right). Looking forward to your reply. Thank you !
Short answer: Road 5. Long answer: When it comes to tires, the big misconception is that just because a tire is sportier, or designed more for track use, that it will provide more grip. That's only half true-- when used as they're designed and under the conditions they're made for, sure. But for normal road riding, sport touring tires will be way better. The problem is that tires only perform when they're at the correct temperature, and race tires won't get there or stay there on the road, even with "spirited" riding. They require things like tire warmers, laps around the track, etc. So for 90% of people wearing race tires on the street, they're actually experiencing worse performance.
I have a V-Strom 650 and run Anakee 3's for last 2 sets of tyres. Just taken in for service and they couldn't get Anakee 3's any more so fitted these. Any thoughts on this choice as possibly the newer Anakee Adventure may have been a closer alternative and I am wary of occasional light grass and dirt tracks i sometimes go across. I liked the idea the Anakee 3 could cope with almost anything
I'm very curious to see whether this Michelin will break the 10k km (6200 miles) mark. It would be the first rear tyre on my bike (Honda NC750X) to do so. All the others (Bridgestone, Conti, Pirelli) were at the legal tread depth (unfortunately 1.6 mm in Germany) after 6k km (3700 miles) and below the wear marks after 7k-8k km (4300-5000 miles).
I have a 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS and am trying to decide between the Pirelli Angel GT's and these Michelin Road 5's . Doing mostly commuting with weekend fun runs. Would like a tire that last longer than the crappy OEM Dunlops. I am not an aggressive rider and while I may scrap pegs once in a while I am not a knee dragger.
While both tires will offer very similar features, Pirelli always tends to offer a softer compound for performance purposes. I don't think you will be disappointed with either of those choices, however. -Luke
Perhaps this is a “the king is naked” comment… I had Pilot Road (1) twice on my bike, Pilot Road 3 (skipped the PR2), Pilot Road 4 and now Pilot Road 5. My average is about 20 thousand km’s per set of tyres. I have PR 5 for 10 thousand km’s and, honestly, I prefer the PR 4. The PR 4 are more consistent and I have lost far often the grip with the PR 5, especially on pavement marks, both wet or dry conditions. Also, when you are near the edge of the tyre, they seem to be more slippery. So, other experiences are welcome. But unless they come out with a new PR 6, probably I will return to PR 4…
Update... as I said, changed back to Pilot Road 4. Now with 5.000 km's (damn covid...), so far, I don't regret. Saved €70,00 (per set of tyres) and did not loose the grip one single time, unlike happened with Road 5... at least 3 scary times...
Just mounted a front Road 5 in my bike (the Bridgestone it has in the rear still has a lot of life on it). Hella expensive, like 40% over the BT23s, and the bike behavior has changed a lot, I haven't decided yet if for better of for worse, just different... lets see what happens once I put the rear one and the set is complete.
@@ImNotADeeJay Yes of course. In this situation, just buy another BW23 and change both tires next time. Btw, There are new Bridgestone T32 tires available. They should also be great.
Michelin road 5 or dunlop q3+ ? I ride quite a bit, almost any chance I get as long as it's not snowy. I do try to avoid rain....the odd time when the weather switches on me out of no where, I'll get caught in rain but that does not happen much really. I would like to go to the track but probably once or twice at most every summer. I also ride aggressively. Thoughts?
Hi Guys, doing a tyre change for the first time. MT09 - currently want to choose between Angel GTII or the Road5. Your pick? (Mostly just do street riding/commute - long trips once a while)
You're right. However, small displacement bikes still don't have enough market share here in the US. It's going in the right direction though, and there should be more options in the future. -DrewZilla
Which would you recommend for a Triumph Street Triple R (675) - this or the Mettzler Roadtec? Looking for better wet weather grip for commuting. Cheers
We haven't seen any in depth comparisons including the new Road 5 Tires yet, but the Roadtecs seem to have the best wet grip currently. If you need new tires now, go with the Metzelers. Otherwise, you might wait until some comparisons come in. -DrewZilla
Hello. I have a 16 R1 and are in need of a rear tire. I’m considering either these or the s21 bridgestones. I don’t track the bike and got 5k out of my stock s20’s
If you actually need the extra grip of the S21s, then go with them. If you never found the limits of the S20s, then you can probably go with the Michelins and get better tire life. -DrewZilla
Hey guys, I'm happy with my s1000r but would LOVE to get more mileage out of my tires (PP3's) by switching to these. Now, I'm nearly dragging knee on some corners so grip is still very important to me. Will theses do?
Would they be good on a vstrom 650? mostly road use or should I get ankaee adventure? which would be best in the cold and wet? thanks. I ride very occasionally on some fire roads but mostly 95% of my riding is on tarmac.
They are great on Suzuki V-Strom 650, especially compared to shinko 705 which I bought with the bike just over 2 years ago had a rear puncture replaced it with road 5 absolutely love it in South Florida rain, spirited riding, daily commuter 20,000 mi ready for a new one👍
Hy! i'm interested in these tires for my honda cbf, but from time to time i have to go on a gravel rods, have will they handle in those condition or maybe you can suggest some other tyre that would be good on long trips and daily riding? thanks in advance.
What motor size is the CBF? If you let me know the specific CBF model, I can recommend tires that are available in the correct sizes. If you can include your stock tire sizes, that will help. If you only ride on gravel occasionally, street tires should be fine. -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla the bike is 600cc, cbf600s 2009 and i would say i'm riding 70/30% rods gravel or 80/20%. front is 120/70/17 rear is 160/60/17. but so far these tyres looks like the best choice.
We don't have enough feedback on the Angel GT 2 yet, but people are please with the grip and life of both so far. Generally, the Michelins have a more linear turn-in feeling, while the Pirellis like to tip into corners a little quicker. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-5-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires
Doubt anyone will reply to this but so curious about that street triple, how come it's only got one side of the light on - I know that's not standard, weird to see it though in the michelin video...
I've run two sets of the PR4 tires and both have slipped on high lean angles. My bike is a 99 Honda VFR800 and tbh, I should run a sport tire, but the T30 EVO doesn't slip, where these do, leaned over and rolling on the throttle. I've nearly highsided 3 times, twice on the track. I am wondering how these will compare to the 4 series. They last a long time, but I have to dial back my speed with these on.
I don't think it's fair to blame these tires for losing grip on a race track. It's not what they were designed for. Not saying you can't run 'em at the track but you have to adjust your riding and expectations.
Do these have as much or more dry grip as the pirelli rosso 2? Are the tire profile on the sharp sporty side or more square off like a sport touring tire?
Yes, they have similar dry grip to the Rosso 2 but more tire life. The Pirellis have a steeper profile, while the Road 5s have a rounder profile. -DrewZilla
Hi Revzilla ! I need help. I'm considering these three option for my new set and I'm wandering what would be your recommendation for me. No 1 for me is dry wether grip and secondary longevity. I ride s1000xr and im picking between conti road attack 3, bridgestone t31 and road 5. I believe they all perform well in wet... Thank you in advance
I ride mt 07 tracer 700 and plan to switch the Stock PR4. I would love to have better grip (esp. Dry) on twisties I am between the PR5, roadtech01 and diablo Rosso 3. Sometimes rain catches but no aggressive riding while raining. Could you please advise
Yes, we now have pricing on the Road 5 Tires, but keep in mind that these are the prices here in the United States. European pricing will probably be different. See the link below for more info. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-5-tires
Ever since I mounted my first set of Michelins, I instantly became a life time customer. They inspire an incredible amount of confidence from the very first ride.
About to get mine next month for the first time. Genuinely excited
MESSAGE FOR ALL TYRES COMPANIES !!! ....take it on wet, switch off electronics and drop the knee down, measure the leaning angle, note when the tire loses the grip and use different corner speed, ...that's what I call the TEST and what people wanna see!!!
Ask and you shall receive. Day 2 on the wet Tail of the Dragon while on our way to Alaska on two Yamaha FJ09's. Wore out a set in 6 weeks but 12200 miles. czcams.com/video/Z3jEhcWaPvU/video.html
Exactly. That's how you really compare wet grip performance between tyres.
thanks valentino
well that sounds extremely dangerous
@@EllaBananas Crash bars exist for a reason banana man
Just had these fitted today on my 2016 Honda NC 750x and as soon as I left the garage I instantly felt the difference. The bike wanted to lean in the corners more than the stock Dunlop trails. I immediately felt confident in the corners and they have not even been worn in yet! As always a great review Lemmy!
@ Boris Jacquin - I go riding on the country lanes with very steep bends in the UK and the bike feels planted and sticks like glue! best upgrade YET! Enjoy! The Dunlops were horrible tyres!
Boris Jacquin & OperationFoxley19441, did you choose Standard or GT version Road 5 for yours NC750X? Thank you!
I've just had some PR5s fitted to my daily. I've always used Michelin pilot series. They are the best all rounder but really stand above all others in the wet.
Been using Michelin Pilot Roads since version 2. Undoubtedly the best tyres you can by for use in all weathers on real roads. The wet weather grip (very important in the rainy North of England) is fantastic.
You all do the community a great service.....thank you!
I got pilot road 5 on my Kawasaki Z900. Drove 400 km up to Lofoten 🇳🇴 yesterday. Wet, only 6-10 degrees. No problems at all with grip.
That was probably one of the most informational 6 minutes on a tire there could be. Great job! I think lemy might be trying to get a PR job at Michelin
Got mine in Summer of 2018, and covered Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Missouri and Arkansas twistes on a Kaw Versys. 4,200 miles later these are without a doubt the best tires I've run. They dont't show wear yet. The only pucker moment was laying way over into a curve and hit a loose gravel washout and the rear broke loose momentarily, then hooked back up and flowed out straight. Wet weather it's best ever tire.
You're not gonna carve the twisties too hard when it's wet anyways, it's gpod that they left a wider flat rubbed band near the edge of the bike.
Twisties in the rain is a lot of fun and helps to learn smoothness of inputs. Speeds are lower but it is incredibly satisfying. I agree about the sides having solid surface.
Shit I do 😂 rain snow etc got to test bike and personal skills iv road in a storm where I had to have my feet planted doing 50mph in pitch black roads lol scariest shit to experience
I have the pr4 last year and it was great riding in the rain, even through torrential downpours. rode 400 miles one way through the northeast in the rain and it handled marvelously. going into sub 40f temperature it still had grip. nice to see they made even better improvements for the pr5
I have the pilot 4’s on my r1200r, they are simply superb, especially in wet weather. Currently on 5k miles and wear is minimal, when they do need replacing, these will be the ones. Confidence and trust in tyres is priceless.
Bought my Road 5's a month ago finally mounted them 2 days ago....Man do i like them...Better than the PR3's & PR4's i had on my other bikes...
How are they going 2 months in?? Think these are top of my list but looking to hear from anyone who's put a few miles on them! Any wet weather riding at all by chance? It's very wet where I'm from!
I went from 2CT and my lean speed and confidence went up. I like the feeling of the tire feeling soft at 36/38 when leaning on a roundabout. It means you are gripping. 2CTs felt hard but I think they were old.
They FINALLY made these in my bike's size. 110 front 140 rear
I didn’t know Michelin made 10 speed bicycle tires! 😂
@@tammyforbes2101 😝it's an odd bike. Bicycle tires, but more torque than a hayabusa
I've got these mounted on my 2015 ZX10R and they feel great! You don't need slicks to enjoy the curves! These babys work just great! Looking to go Power 5 next time but Road 5's have been great!
Good to know
This tyre is great. Use it in my cbr650r. Suitable for dry and wet road and the price also affordable.
How did it wear over time? I just installed Road 6 on my CB650R, these are supposed to have a bit more tire life than 5s. I've only put around 100 miles on them but they put the stock Dunlops to shame.
I just installed new Michelin Road 5 Tires on my FJR. First impressions after 100 miles: If you are looking for a smooth riding tire like Bridgestone 023 Sport Touring tires, these Michelins are not. They have a stiff sidewall the does not flex much. You can feel every road ripple and small bumps on the road surface even if they are smooth. The trade off is Bridgestones wear faster and the tread squares off sooner than you expect (Florida roads). So it's too early to give a verdict on the Road 5 GT tires. Dialing down spring preload, rebound damping and compression damping plus lower tire pressure on the front fork a click at a time will help.
I just bought some for my FJR.. Previously had Dunlap roadsmart 3. Picked up a cotter pin in the rear tire. Decided it was time for a new set.
I was unsure which tyres to get for my 8th gen VFR until I watched this, thanks for helping me make my mind up
Husky Jason Momoa knows his tires. I have used PR4's for touring, they were great for durability (2x the life of Angel GT's) but were squirmy and not confidence inspiring in corners (prone to mid corner hops during hard riding or with touring loads) - these sneakers look to have some key tread profile improvements.
Tip: In the long description box for the video on a specific tire video, put in the range of tire sizes it comes in.
Just back from a short canyon run on a new front Road 5 on my FZ6. I have to say it's like I have a new bike. The cornering is amazing - the bike just wants to carve like I'm on skis. i will have to get used to it but it sure makes riding straight lines dull as dirt.
timber_beast glad to see I’m not the only one riding an fz6. Low sided in October due to my old tires not having enough grip. You’ve convinced me on getting these tires over the Q3+ that my friends are riding on
Fz6 rider here. Angel st tires I have are worn out currently (the rear atleast) and I'll be getting pr5's. The grip of the angel st's never let me down. I took them to the tail of the dragon 2 weeks after installing them and I was scraping peg so much at the dragon it freaked me out. I hope the pr5's have the same dry grip that I'm used to. The wet grip attribute is strictly for safety if I get caught in some rain. Angel st rear milage sucked but so does my gas mileage. All because I love to hammer on the throttle everywhere.
I have the same bike with the same front tire. But I am experiencing a very loud annoying noise somewhere between 40-75 mph. The frequency of the noise increases with the speed. Over 75 mph it almost becomes to high-frequent for my human ears. I am not entirely sure about it being the tire, so I would like hear your experience.
@@MetallicaSindre maybe it could be your wheel bearings are going bad. But definitely get it sorted soon. You never want to wreck due to a mechanical problem on your machine
Tire X was hilarious. Let's jerk the throttle on and off thru the corner for some dramatic effect. I've ridden pretty much every brand of 17" rubber over the decades and nothing ever rode like that around a mild bend. Hell, 20 years ago, I'd have the rubber feathered to the edges on both "sport touring" tires in a week. I'd get about 6k out of a rear then too. Nothing's changed, but the model names. The hype never ends.
Great video on "The Bike Show" about 15 year old Duc Monster vs a new Monster S. With a pipe and a map, the old Monster 1000 walked away from the brand new 1200 S. The new one has all the electronics to keep the eager newbie from killing himself though...
I love the 4’s. I can’t wait for them to wear out now so I can try the 5’s
Joseph Marton Haha Very true. They are simply the best. Fingers crossed the new 5’s will be even better 😀
Got a a set of these on my 2017 SV650. They’ve lasted 17000km so far. Getting a bit thin in the middle now, so I’ve ordered a set of Road 6 to replace them. It rains a lot where I live and I love their wet weather performance. Though in the dry they’re fantastic.
Hey wanted to ask how they are in more sporty cornering (dry). Ever feel like you reach the edge or a wiggle/falling sensation?
@@Mech.E ended up switching to Bridgestone T32’s. I like them better
@@danmunro01 oh damn you are even making this harder haha I have the t31s and like hem too but I will try michelin just to switch things up
@@danmunro01 which one would you describe as a sportier tire?
which one u prefer road 6 or power 5 and why?
My Pilot4's....couldn't ask for a better wet tire. I run a 2002 BMW K1200RT @ 635lbs and we have blasted down the highway @ 70+MPH in heave rains..... never skipped a beat. I'm all about wet tires...I'll be getting some of these..Thanks!
Too soft for my Blackbird.Wore out front in about 3.5k kms/Rear tyre 1/2 worn. Need GTs. Now on Pirellis Angel GTs.
Road 5 GT have been out since mid year 2019.
I got road 5 under my Yamaha R1 and i hope the harder layer will work better. The government agency who take cares of the roads here in Iceland doesn't pave all the roads, instead they use oil gravel that will be compacted by drivers over time, but while it is compacting it works like a sandpaper on the tire...
I don't understand how you can review a tyre without even taking a test ride on it. This is basically a pre release for Michelin.
Digital marketing dude! DIGITAL MARKETING!!!
I don't know man the pr4s were pretty spectacular and anything better is just better.
Even if he's reading off of their marketing material, as long as you have functional bs detectors, that should be enough information.
Thanks very much, I've just bought an FJR1300AE and am going to fit these tires immediately.
It's raining here in Oregon as I type this. Getting my 5's put on tomorrow. My CBR1000 came stock with these horrible Dunlop Sportmaxx tires. 5,800 miles on them and no confidence in them on dry or especially in the wet. They have always felt like there is no grip or feedback when cornering. Hoping I like these 5's much better. My tires "look" fine but I don't trust em.
I ride an FZ09, my last set were Q3+. I got... 2800... yes.. 2800 miles on the rear. Smh. I definitely felt the softer compound and grab from the Q3+ but now since I switched to the Road 5's I feel the road better. Still learning how hard I can push the grip in twistes but I'm satisfied with the switch. Looking forward to learning with the Road 5's knowing I'll get more life out of them.
Picking a pair up this week for my striple 675. Just gotta wait for winter to pass 😭
Never got on with 4's, IMO, they just didn't seem to like being pushed hard as well as 3's and struggled to get up to temp in the wet and cold conditions we see in the UK. Even more of an irritation was they stopped making 3's in a 190/50, no way I was putting 4's on my 1290 so moved on to a different brand. Hopefully the 5's are much improved, the SDR needs some new boots in the spring.
The ton of siping on the PR4's was great in the wet but made them squirmy when you're riding hard (when new... it improved when the tread life got down below 50%). I just mounted road5's and I'm hopeful I'll get the life of the 4's but without the squirming.
I have Pilot Road 4 on my DRZ, and recently Pilot Road 5 on my SV650.
E2Moto How do you like the 5s compared to the 4s?
Aren't they just the "Road 5's" now?
Yeah, they are. At least that's what's written on the sidewall. ;P
The 5GT is coming out end of 2018
Right. The word "Pilot" was dropped.
That's what I have
How about Road 5 XS?
Put a set on today,tomorrow i go off to scuff-land and see.My tire's have been nothing but Bridgestone's,love them but i finally be waiting for that right Michelin to come along,hope this is it.I did try the perelli once,sold them on CL 1 month later,Junk....I ride a 2007 Ducati ST3S ABS..Thanks Revzilla
RevZilla, tell these manufactures they are missing out on a huge market share of smaller bikes (Honda CBR 250, Kawasaki Ninja 300, Yamaha R3) stock sizing.
psychotic memories true i use my r3 as a daily for work i wanna hold off to see if they can make it for my bike
İdd, i am dealing with cold wet roads with bridgestone battlax bt45, and its not very good
they carry the 150 size which fits with no problems. The new Ninja 400 uses a 150
You can use 150. The way tire fits you look at the rim width and see if they fit in with the manufacturer parameters. If it fits then it won't squish the peaks and you're Gucci. Ari Henning put on a 150 rear for his CBR300R racebike I think.
Just received my first set of Road 5s from RevZilla. Replacing my Pilot Road 4s at the end of this week.
Bill Fabian how did you like them
Glad to see they took away some of the sipes, especially from the front tire. The PR4's were great when new, but went downhill fast. They had a unique wear pattern because of all the sipes that gave the tire a very strange feel past a few thousand k. I found this out on a few bikes that the suspension was properly tuned. I'm interested to give these a try to see how they compare. I'd like to also compare them to the Roadsmart 3's that I'm using now. Thanks for the info.
Did you try them yet?
I have a 08 zx10r, and just put a fresh set of road 5s on. Just worn them in and they feel realy good. I will stick with michelin they no there stuff.
I’m on my second set on Pilot Power 3’s on my Kawasaki C14. They are excellent and cheaper than the PR4. Hopefully they continue making them.🌬🏍
Ran my first set or Road 5’s
Won’t buy again!
At 90 degrees outside temperature, back tire is all over the road😬
Cooler temps it’s a great set of tires.
Not good for hot days, desert 🌵 states, etc.
That is definitely true here in the deep south I noticed folding in the rear in 90 plus degree heat but cold wet is where this tire shine like a diamond 👍
I bought the DUNLOP ROADSPORT II 's for my yamaha fz09 after cooking through two sets of Bridgestone battlax s20's. The RS2'S ARE an amazing tire. Great performance. I highly recommend them. However i will be getting the Q4s for next season for a street tire.
I am not convinced but probably I am on the wrong track (ops, sorry). How can BOTH wet AND dry grip be improved? How can wet grip be improved by removing rain drainage and adding rubber? I am stumped out on this one! It seems to counter common wisdom....
I have the Road (1, if you will) on my 916, and they are magnificent! Very smooth cornering, excellent grip when wet. And let's be honest, when it's wet one must not ride like crazy right?
I literally just put PR4s on my bike....😔
Mac 215 return the pr4s
alexcazacu1 I can't now, they're already mounted on my bike
They will last a while. At least you’ll find all sorts out from other users once it’s due for a change.
Better get out there and put some miles on them then! -DrewZilla
RevZilla 🏍🏍🏍👍
Just put a brand new 4 on my cbr1000f hasn't even touched the road. Had to ditch the 3 on the back after a puncture ended its life. The 3 on the front is nearly new looking forward to bedding the new 4 in and see how it feels.
Just purchased a set
I have had Road Pilot 3's and 4's they were very good tyres. The Road Pilot 5 however is beyond rubbish. Major step backwards. I used to get about 12k miles with a front and about 8k miles rear. With the Pilot 5 the rear is ok but the front is only getting about 4.5k miles and wears very odd. Getting more miles out of a rear than a front, that's just bonkers. This has happened twice now. Michelin refunded the first but not the second. Definitely go elsewhere for your rubber.
I don't do off road and tyre pressures are checked every time I go out.
Hated the pilot road 4s in my opinion wasn’t happy with cornering felt slips but these pilot road 5s 😍😍 just put them on and they are perfect
i had no issues with grip in the wet or dry on k1600gt with the p4gt
Being installed tomorrow!
Just bought a set for my 2006 fz6
Given the reduced siping on the edges of the tire, perhaps they will have better side grip.
After 13000 miles Pirelli Angel GT I changed the tires to M5. See how many miles I'll pass.
My bike its Kawasaki z1000sx.
Remigiusz Rubanowicz i am looking into Angels vs M5 myself for my z900... how you like the M5? 13000 on the angels sounds great
Is the front any less squirrely now?
Hey RevZilla, based on mileage alone, should I go for the Michelin Road 5 or the Dunlop roadsmart 4? I currently have a kawasaki z400 but I'm going to upgrade to the Triumph Trident which both tires are available for.
I live in a vert wet climate and want a good wet tire for my sport touring bike. I've been looking at the pr4 and the pr5. I like the road 5 but the center contact patch worries me that I'd hydroplane in a straight line because it has no center tread unlike the pr4. Any input would he greatly appreciated.
That looks more like a dry-biased tire. Hope they keep making the PR4 if first gut reaction is any factor. It seems to have a lot more dry tread on the outer portion of the tire - even with the larger sipes. Looks sketchy. I will have to try them eventually I suppose. Hope some testing can confirm wet weather performance.
Okay so which one is better for my 2010 CBR 600RR ? Michelin Road 5 or Michelin Power RS ? I want to "upgrade" my bike with new tires for the next year. Mostly I use it everyday ( home - work ), city ride on free time, some trips and also next year I want to go to the track, what interests me most is the grip of the tyre especially on cornering, i don't want to be in a corner and my rear tyre to start wiggleing and also I want to stay on 2 wheels in case the rain will begin to fall when I'm on the road (i'm not interesting in doing "agressive" leaning on cornering on wet road, only a bit leaning to turn left/right). Looking forward to your reply. Thank you !
Short answer: Road 5.
Long answer: When it comes to tires, the big misconception is that just because a tire is sportier, or designed more for track use, that it will provide more grip. That's only half true-- when used as they're designed and under the conditions they're made for, sure. But for normal road riding, sport touring tires will be way better. The problem is that tires only perform when they're at the correct temperature, and race tires won't get there or stay there on the road, even with "spirited" riding. They require things like tire warmers, laps around the track, etc. So for 90% of people wearing race tires on the street, they're actually experiencing worse performance.
Haha gave so much more love to these than any other reviews. Lol
Can’t wait for my pr4s to wear out. 4k in and they still look nearly new.
If mine are an indicator, you're going to be waiting awhile!
I'm just over 6000km and believe me, the treads are just mocking me.. I could sell them as brand new
I can attest. 3K on my PR4, still look new. I don't think I'll ever see the 5's. By the time I need new tires, Michelin will have a PR6.
can we get a video for michelin power 6?!??!??!?!??!??
Best tires out for Sports/Touring larger bikes in 2019.
Road 5
Well i love the 4’s I get my rears last 9500 and fronts double I wonder if these will be as good
How is the PR5's compliance over rough and patchy pavements? Lots of that around here, and stiffer-construction performance tires don't fare so well.
Nice job on the video, Lem-Lem.
Michelin are the best tires i want no other brand (and i used a lot so i can judge)
I have them on my bikes and car.
I have a V-Strom 650 and run Anakee 3's for last 2 sets of tyres. Just taken in for service and they couldn't get Anakee 3's any more so fitted these. Any thoughts on this choice as possibly the newer Anakee Adventure may have been a closer alternative and I am wary of occasional light grass and dirt tracks i sometimes go across. I liked the idea the Anakee 3 could cope with almost anything
Indian bike TVS RR310 USED THIS TYRE AND THE BIKE COST IS UNDER 4k USD
I'm using more dry surface.which is best?pilot road 4 or 5?
I'm very curious to see whether this Michelin will break the 10k km (6200 miles) mark. It would be the first rear tyre on my bike (Honda NC750X) to do so. All the others (Bridgestone, Conti, Pirelli) were at the legal tread depth (unfortunately 1.6 mm in Germany) after 6k km (3700 miles) and below the wear marks after 7k-8k km (4300-5000 miles).
I have a 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS and am trying to decide between the Pirelli Angel GT's and these Michelin Road 5's . Doing mostly commuting with weekend fun runs. Would like a tire that last longer than the crappy OEM Dunlops. I am not an aggressive rider and while I may scrap pegs once in a while I am not a knee dragger.
While both tires will offer very similar features, Pirelli always tends to offer a softer compound for performance purposes. I don't think you will be disappointed with either of those choices, however. -Luke
Looks like an upgraded Power RS
I thought the same thing
You mean downgraded Power RS.
Perhaps this is a “the king is naked” comment…
I had Pilot Road (1) twice on my bike, Pilot Road 3 (skipped the PR2), Pilot Road 4 and now Pilot Road 5.
My average is about 20 thousand km’s per set of tyres.
I have PR 5 for 10 thousand km’s and, honestly, I prefer the PR 4. The PR 4 are more consistent and I have lost far often the grip with the PR 5, especially on pavement marks, both wet or dry conditions. Also, when you are near the edge of the tyre, they seem to be more slippery.
So, other experiences are welcome. But unless they come out with a new PR 6, probably I will return to PR 4…
Update... as I said, changed back to Pilot Road 4. Now with 5.000 km's (damn covid...), so far, I don't regret. Saved €70,00 (per set of tyres) and did not loose the grip one single time, unlike happened with Road 5... at least 3 scary times...
Which has better cornering performance, the Road 5 or the Power 5?
I'm not racing around in the rain, don't think I'm alone saying
Just mounted a front Road 5 in my bike (the Bridgestone it has in the rear still has a lot of life on it). Hella expensive, like 40% over the BT23s, and the bike behavior has changed a lot, I haven't decided yet if for better of for worse, just different... lets see what happens once I put the rear one and the set is complete.
Always use the same tire for front and rear. They are designed together. Changing your rear tire to a R5 will increase handling to its best.
@@sv7017 problem is they don't wear out at the same time, I am not throwing away a tire with 40% of use
@@ImNotADeeJay Yes of course. In this situation, just buy another BW23 and change both tires next time.
Btw, There are new Bridgestone T32 tires available. They should also be great.
Michelin road 5 or dunlop q3+ ? I ride quite a bit, almost any chance I get as long as it's not snowy. I do try to avoid rain....the odd time when the weather switches on me out of no where, I'll get caught in rain but that does not happen much really. I would like to go to the track but probably once or twice at most every summer. I also ride aggressively. Thoughts?
Still the best road tyre in 2020
While i'm trying to finish up my pr4, about 12k km now 180/55/17, then pr5 come out. Just don't confident with the pr5 thread.
Hi Guys, doing a tyre change for the first time.
MT09 - currently want to choose between Angel GTII or the Road5.
Your pick?
(Mostly just do street riding/commute - long trips once a while)
Both are really really good tires. Michelin is maybe a little better in the rain though. -DrewZilla
I wide range of tires should have a 140/70 its a common tire size for 250/300cc bikes
You're right. However, small displacement bikes still don't have enough market share here in the US. It's going in the right direction though, and there should be more options in the future. -DrewZilla
Need to replace my rear Road 4. The Road 4 on the front has loads of life yet. Any issues in matching a Rear Road 5 with a Front Road 4?
We cannot officially recommend mixing the tire models like that, since Michelin designed the front and rear tires to work together. -DrewZilla
Which would you recommend for a Triumph Street Triple R (675) - this or the Mettzler Roadtec? Looking for better wet weather grip for commuting. Cheers
We haven't seen any in depth comparisons including the new Road 5 Tires yet, but the Roadtecs seem to have the best wet grip currently. If you need new tires now, go with the Metzelers. Otherwise, you might wait until some comparisons come in. -DrewZilla
I have PR4s on my ST-R and will be going to 5's - love em.
Hello. I have a 16 R1 and are in need of a rear tire. I’m considering either these or the s21 bridgestones.
I don’t track the bike and got 5k out of my stock s20’s
If you actually need the extra grip of the S21s, then go with them. If you never found the limits of the S20s, then you can probably go with the Michelins and get better tire life. -DrewZilla
A lot better than the 4s for grip imho.
Is there any good reason these are not available in a 140 size?
Hey guys, I'm happy with my s1000r but would LOVE to get more mileage out of my tires (PP3's) by switching to these. Now, I'm nearly dragging knee on some corners so grip is still very important to me. Will theses do?
Yes, you'll still get good edge grip with these, so I recommend them. -DrewZilla
Would they be good on a vstrom 650? mostly road use or should I get ankaee adventure? which would be best in the cold and wet? thanks.
I ride very occasionally on some fire roads but mostly 95% of my riding is on tarmac.
They are great on Suzuki V-Strom 650, especially compared to shinko 705 which I bought with the bike just over 2 years ago had a rear puncture replaced it with road 5 absolutely love it in South Florida rain, spirited riding, daily commuter 20,000 mi ready for a new one👍
Hy! i'm interested in these tires for my honda cbf, but from time to time i have to go on a gravel rods, have will they handle in those condition or maybe you can suggest some other tyre that would be good on long trips and daily riding? thanks in advance.
What motor size is the CBF? If you let me know the specific CBF model, I can recommend tires that are available in the correct sizes. If you can include your stock tire sizes, that will help. If you only ride on gravel occasionally, street tires should be fine. -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla the bike is 600cc, cbf600s 2009 and i would say i'm riding 70/30% rods gravel or 80/20%. front is 120/70/17 rear is 160/60/17. but so far these tyres looks like the best choice.
Yes, these tires should be good. -DrewZilla
Hey there, quick question... I have a 08 VFR 800, should I get the regular Road 5 or the GT version? Thanks for helping!
For a VFR, stick with the regular version. Your bike isn't heavy enough for a GT version. -DrewZilla
Hey revzilla. How are these road 5 compared to the angel gt 2? Which is a better tyre in your opinion?
We don't have enough feedback on the Angel GT 2 yet, but people are please with the grip and life of both so far. Generally, the Michelins have a more linear turn-in feeling, while the Pirellis like to tip into corners a little quicker. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-5-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires
What is the difference between the PR5 and the PR5 trail?
Tire size, trails are for larger adventure/touring bikes.
Doubt anyone will reply to this but so curious about that street triple, how come it's only got one side of the light on - I know that's not standard, weird to see it though in the michelin video...
I've run two sets of the PR4 tires and both have slipped on high lean angles. My bike is a 99 Honda VFR800 and tbh, I should run a sport tire, but the T30 EVO doesn't slip, where these do, leaned over and rolling on the throttle. I've nearly highsided 3 times, twice on the track.
I am wondering how these will compare to the 4 series. They last a long time, but I have to dial back my speed with these on.
PR4 are crap tires with a huge marketing machine behind them.
I totally agree, worst sport touring tyre for a sport tourer. far better the bridgestone t30 evo battlax.
Logan Wild It was a last minute opportunity to go. I didn't have time to switch and they were brand new tires.
I don't think it's fair to blame these tires for losing grip on a race track. It's not what they were designed for. Not saying you can't run 'em at the track but you have to adjust your riding and expectations.
Kobayashi Maru I agree. However, I have had it happen on the street too, in the canyons where I live. The Bridgestone T30 EVO grips so much better!
Do these have as much or more dry grip as the pirelli rosso 2?
Are the tire profile on the sharp sporty side or more square off like a sport touring tire?
Yes, they have similar dry grip to the Rosso 2 but more tire life. The Pirellis have a steeper profile, while the Road 5s have a rounder profile. -DrewZilla
Hi Revzilla ! I need help. I'm considering these three option for my new set and I'm wandering what would be your recommendation for me. No 1 for me is dry wether grip and secondary longevity. I ride s1000xr and im picking between conti road attack 3, bridgestone t31 and road 5. I believe they all perform well in wet...
Thank you in advance
All three have very similar grip, but the Continental Road Attack 3s have slightly better dry grip. -DrewZilla
I ride mt 07 tracer 700 and plan to switch the Stock PR4. I would love to have better grip (esp. Dry) on twisties I am between the PR5, roadtech01 and diablo Rosso 3. Sometimes rain catches but no aggressive riding while raining. Could you please advise
I'd recommend the Rosso 3s if you want more dry grip. -DrewZilla
Hey revzilla merry xmas and a happy new year soon..do you now the price about road 5's???it will be helpfull if you tell me in euros thanks a lot!!!
Yes, we now have pricing on the Road 5 Tires, but keep in mind that these are the prices here in the United States. European pricing will probably be different. See the link below for more info. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-5-tires