Should You Use The Dehydrator In Stardew Valley 1.6? - Now with MATH
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
- I love new artisan equipment in Stardew Valley. And it's always exciting to figure out just how efficient different methods of processing are. The dehydrator is one of the newest machines in Stardew Valley 1.6 and it's... interesting?
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TL;DW:
Most Money - High value, low quality fruit - still not as good as a keg, but can get you money fast!
Best Value - Overflow fruits you wouldn't process like blueberries or cranberries. I also like it for Bananas specifically.
Always Solid - Mushrooms when you have artisan, with further notes below.
Don't use for - Any Idirium fruit, regardless of whether you have Artisan.
Edit: Preserves Jar is arguably better for Morel, Chanterelle, and especially Purple Mushroom and Magma Caps. I wasn't aware of Preserved Mushrooms when originally working this video out. Only Pumpkins, Red Cabbage, Starfruit, Ancient Fruit, and Pineapples make better use of the Preserves Jar than Purple Mushrooms in 1.6. Magma Caps should almost certainly be jarred.
I tested it on the only thing I had on hand (the stack of iridium blackberries I keep in my inventory) when the update first dropped and found out that iridium quality wasn't great for the dehydrator.
So this is basically ''we have keg at home''
I think you need to reconsider the last part, as mushrooms can now be put in preserves jars. I'm pretty sure it's quite a bit more profitable, but would be interesting to see a spreadsheet.
I thank you so much for the short version. I have no access/space for preserves jars or kegs in my current playthrough and just wanted a short confirmation of what I stumbled upon in the game. Liked the video because of the short version at the beginning. Much love and stay awesome!
This TLDR is confusing in one aspect. Do iridium quality mushrooms count as "crops" that should not be dehydrated?
"They're a good way to burn through your 600 cranberries, you filthy hoarder"
Lmao, I feel called out 🤣
Same! 😅
I literally have 500+ on this new farm I started after 1.6 came out and got the dehydrator in the ticket machine and I'm using it to get rid of them so I literally am being called out
My sin was blueberries haha this should help
I sold my hoarded blueberries, cuz I wasn't gonna bother putting them all in preserves jars, should've probably thought about putting them in dehydrators instead
I feel like where the dehydrator shines is fruit that you would have sold raw being turned into a profit in a single day. Normally in the summer I sell all my blueberries raw, with the dehydrator I can increase that profit by 25% plus an additional 40 % if I have artisan.
I don't have the jars or kegs to process hundreds of fruit, especially early on. But the dehydrator allows you to process hundreds of fruit with only a few dehydrators in a week.
Yes! That's basically it. Overflow fruits, and all your mushies. I didn't know about mushrooms in preserves jars yet though, which I see from another comment. 🤔
25% is not enough to bother with all that.
it's a waste of time.
i just sell the blueberries as is.
So fruits that have a shorter regrow time are better like blueberries, grapes and strawberries.
this is 100% the use-case i see it perfect for.
@@moontan91 it's not a waste of time at all, I chose the mushroom cave and everyday I just take 5 blueberries and run to the cave and put it in, I made it a habit so that way I don't forget to collect the mushrooms
Best ever format of answers for those with no time and then letting us nerds hang a bit to see more.
I was hoping that would make it easier for both types! People that just want the answer and people who want to dig into it a little more.
Subbed just from that! Here's the takeaways, here's the math, and here's a walkthrough of the math is a great format.
For me it's not just a math solution. Playing Stardew Valley effective always ends up with a quarry and a desert full of kegs. It's a huge impact on what you have on your screen. You will need 35 times less dehydrators than kegs, to munch through your weekly harvest. Times 7 because they need one day instead of nearly 7 days and times 5 because you process 5 fruits at once.
If you go for it in a mathematical way again, it's best to have a few dehydrators around at the beginning, as long as you don't have enough kegs for your harvest.
And you could also put some mushroom logs in your oak resin farm and go for dried mushrooms to get some added value out of it, too.
ADDED: It's about your preferred playstyle. I'm much more likely to fill 20 dehydrators as a daily chore than filling 700 kegs once a week. And the map doesn't look like something out of factorio.
I think the game changer with the dehydrator for me is that I always choose the mushroom cave for the free renewable energy. I end up with so many mushrooms i just chomp a bunch in skull caverns. Dehydrating them makes the energy and health stats so good, and even with botanist, the mushrooms from the cave do not pick up that iridium quality (only ones you pick as forage do) so it's a great way to gain easy high end snacks for cave days
Good call!
But the bat cave will still allow you to complete CC a loot sooner as it allows you to forego the purchase of the horribly inefficient fruit saplings.
@@DrZaius3141The bat cave mostly just gives me forage fruit. I have had horrible rng luck with the CC fruits.
@@b3thamphetamine I have reached perfection 7 times. The first was with the mushrooms, the other 6 with the bats. I've always gone for CC and even in unlucky runs I got everything I needed by spring of year 2. Granted, I usually play with remixed bundles, so I don't always get the 3 apples - but if you check regularly and clean out the trash, so to speak, it's virtually guaranteed.
As for apples: If they come, I might want to wait for foraging 5 (Gatherer) and reset the day if I only pick up one apple, try again the next day.
@@DrZaius3141 did you follow any guide for the perfection?
Some things to note, it multiplies the energy snd health regain of whatever you put in it by 3 and it can also turn certain inedible fruits edible, like rhubarbs for example which when dried end up healing 275 energy and 123 health, so it is good for making certain foods better early on
Omg its magolor
That's 3x the base fruit though right? So like a blueberry goes from 25 to 75 energy. But if you just have 5 blueberries in your pocket they're worth 125. I can really only see that being useful in edge cases like the rhubarb you mentioned or in multiplayer where time doesn't pause while you eat.
@@Leapalot stopping and eating 5 berries (likely getting hit in the frames between too) every time a serpent hits me sucks, if i can get that health eating 1 dried rhubarb instead, i will :)
@@AqualightninIts not hard to not get hit between frames though. Just press your button for interacting with the food and then press Y and then repeat as soon as you can
I've got the mushroom logs and the bat cave - so I'll probably use the dehydrator for that. Thanks for figuring this out
I really want to dive into the mushroom logs more... 🤔
Mushroom logs?
I've been using the mushroom log as one of my main money methods this playthrough (me and my friend usually like to use different unique methods every playthrough so the new mushy logs are nice). So far I've been trying to look every day if anybody had info online about some good setups yet for them lol, but i guess itll take a bit for those videos to start popping up. So far i have a layout for the quarry that i'll fill out eventually. It's defo not completely optimal since not every log gets the max 5 mushroom output, but it works decent enough. The moss is fucking brutal to collect though. I really wish the green rain event wasn't once a year.
@@jordantyler148 New craftable item if you have foraging level 4, costs 10 hardwood and 10 moss and produces mushrooms every few days
hey how do you get the logs?
I have no idea if this is particularly profitable, but this is what I do:
Kegs for star fruit and ancient fruit
Preserves Jars for roe
Dehydrators for tree fruits and other overflow fruits/mushrooms.
Dried cherries and pomegranates tend to fetch a high price, as do dried morels, chanterelles, and purple mushrooms.
You can put the mushrooms in the jars now for pickled mushrooms. It sounds like just about the most disgusting thing in the world, but you can do it.
It is a culinary thing. Why it's a culinary thing, I don't know.
pickled mushrooms in vinegar are actually really good, of course if you like that kind of taste. My grandma makes good ones, you can buy them at the store here (Poland), I think they're also popular in Italy? Anyway, don't beat it 'till you try it!
pickled tea leaves are insanely good.
i personally really like it when i make ramen, its quite nice
Omg you are missing out on pickled mushrooms! They are one of my favorite things to eat in the world😍 even when i was a child and couldn’t stand mushrooms, would never pass on some pickled ones
Spreadsheets and math - this is the 1.6 content I’ve been looking forward to!
I do believe the dehydrator is a way to burn large numbers of fruits to make quick cash , ofc on the long run, the preserve jar/keg is better but like you said, these large product numbers will never make it... Definitely gonna use on the countless fruits i have from fruit trees and grapes
Yeah I could never process all my blueberries before. But now.... I can at least try lol.
Bold of you to assume I only have 600 cranberries
It seems good for crops which mass produce such as cranberries and early game when you don't have much kegs and preserves jars it's just extra cash
Another thing is it's cost it's way easier to get a bunch of dehydrators than a bunch of kegs and preserve jars
Definitely. Overflow crops!
also dehydrators takes less space in your farm, one full capacity shed can dry like 4000+ fruits per day if you have a nasty amount of blueberries but who plant 1500 blueberries anyway?
Pineapple is the best imo for dehydrators.. 1 dried pinapple sells for 3185g, and the trees are one time plant.. Ancient fruit also works if you all only have ancient fruits everywhere..
Also if you place mushroom logs in between the new mystic trees, almost always results in purple mushrooms..
I'm very interested in looking into mushroom logs... 🤔
@@LeapalotTBH I find the mushroom logs are better than the cave itself. All they need is a nice forested area nearby and they can produce up to 5 mushrooms at a time. Quality varies but I get purple mushrooms sometimes but quality doesn't matter when you use the dehydrator. I just have 4 on my farm and they can also produce in winter which is amazing.
pineapple is similar to ancient fruit though,it regrows every 7 days which is same with keg processing time
@@b99b12I'm not sure how the mushroom cave production works if it's random or based on the date, but having a mushroom log with your tree tapper setup just seems a lot of profitable later on since you can put in a lot more logs which you can farm from fiber seeds and moss from the green rain
@@tissueaddict2033the mushroom cave gives out mushrooms every 2nd day. It was accidentally changed to every day in 1.5 but should be fixed in 1.6 now
Seems like dehydrators are a perfect time and place to use hoppers.
That will easily manage all the different types of mushrooms. Plus you can dump all the suitable overflow crops into the hopper and get regular daily products to sell.
I agree! This is a good place for hoppers. I also use them for bone mills and deconstructers!
@@Leapalot I've yet to try 1.6 but hoppers are probably good with the fish smoker as well. 🤔
Deconstructors seem to be the #1 use for hoppers. They are so expensive and take up so much space it's difficult to find good uses them.
I also like using a hopper with the geode crusher. I have a crusher+hopper in my "stuff to grab in the morning" line.
TLDR;
For the same amount of tiles
ancient fruits with kegs will do 550 (points / week /action)
ancient fruits + pineapples + few dehydrators: 629
dehydrators+crystalariums: 899
Calculations:
It makes sense to consider one more denominator: per action. I mean, speed-gro starfruit wine may give more gold a day per tile, but who cares if you have an ancient fruit plant?
The same might work for kegs vs dehydrators. It's approx 5 times less clicks for half of the profit. And you require 35 times less space: to process 35 ancient fruits you need 35 kegs a week, or 1 dehydrator.
let x be fruit_base_price and ignore +25g.
then for dehydrator: x*1.5 per 1 + .2 + .2 actions ~= 1.07x
for keg : x*3 per 1 + 1 + 1 actions = x
It's even a hair-bit better.
Additionally,
In early-mid-game. It takes ~35 less resources to craft.
In late-game: every of 34 tiles can be replaced with a crystalarium or a pineapple pot.
To simplify calculations, let's normalize actions to week.
then, 35 ancient fruits with dehydrators ( actions: 35 + 7 + 7, tiles: 36 ) = 35 * 550 * 1.5 *1.4 = 40425
34 crystalariums (actions: 47.6, tiles: 34 ) = 34*975*7/5 = 46410
33 pineapples with dehydrators ( actions 34 + 7 + 7, tiles: ~34.97 per 34, so let's do 35 ) = 21420
35 ancient fruits with kegs (actions: 35+35+35 ) = 35* 550*3 = 57750
kegs will do 57750g per 105 actions per week ( per 70 tiles total ). dehydrators+crystalariums will do 86835 per 96.6 actions ( per 70 tiles ). with pineapples: 61845 per 97 actions ( per 71 tile ).
Moreover, if we have unlimited ginger island farm tiles: dehydrators will do 78604 per 95.27 actions ( per 70 tiles ), which breaks down to 825 / week / action.
Screw the kegs, dehydrators are the best. Crystalariums ftw.
I immensely appreciate how you got to the conclusions, and then got into the small details. Instant subscribe.
I literally LOVE THIS DEHYDRATOR. My main money maker throughout my year 1 and 2. On my year 2, I could be able to befriend with the wizard and got junimo huts. I have a max crop field layout that is full of strawberry/blueberry/cranberries. but it’s not making good money as iridium starfruit wine still. But it’s the additional way to make money while waiting for starfruit wine to become iridium!
To put it simply, year 1, I am still constructing my massive keg far, so my 2000 cranberries don’t yet have a keg to call home, and in previous playthroughs I’d end up selling the rest of my cranberries that didn’t make it on winter 28, but this time, I was able to process all of them, and it didn’t cost me any metal bars or coal :)
i do use the automate mod, where you can put a chest with items in it, touching a line of kegs, and then an output chest, and it will just grab whatever in the input and poop it out in the end box when its done, (same for preserves jar, furnaces, etc). its quite nice to just dump all your crops in a box, then check the output in the mornings and whatever is done you can sell/use. problem i had was often i had far more fruit than my machines could keep up with, even with 0 downtime. Now i will have stacks up to 100 (or a full stack if its something like blueberries) in the line for kegs/preserve jars, and everything in excess of that plus mushrooms will go in a line for the dehydrators (plus some for the unique items like raisins). should be a welcome addition!
One aspect I think is over looked is the dehydrator does fill in a way to improve prices early game. I argue it's easier to make more of the dehydrator than a keg and less costly than the jar (Coal is gold early game)
I'm mostly talking year one, where your trying to get money back faster to reinvest immediately. A day is no problem in most cases, 2-3 for the jar is fine... if you got enough jars and really how much better are you getting. Kegs I seldom find useful until fall harvest when I can better wait for my ROI and yet again getting the needed materials (Oak resin) is much more likely to have a good amount going.
Later game it still serves a purpose with the raisins.
By no means do I think it's a great item but I do think it has it's place besides raisins. I do think it should be buffed a little more. Only adding 5g per fruit (25g total) after the multiplier makes me ask the question why bother to even add it. I would not go crazy but maybe 15g/(75g total) this way it still leaves a place for the jar while offering better incentive for the dehydrator.
I like the idea of a 100g rider to make it feel like the next step from the preserves jar, but your 75g might be a little more balanced. 🤔
need your money back in time to buy strawberry seeds but dont want to sell it raw? dehydrator is your friend!
@@Aqualightnin That would be an option if choosing the mushroom cave, don't forget if you want to make them it costs 10K. I doubt most people could get that kind of money together by then to have it be worth the turn around. After the fair however is a different matter and would help with the strawberries you get.
Not saying it's impossible to do but you would also need to get to lvl 80 in the mines to make it so trying to get money and cave diving in two weeks would be a huge ordeal for most.
@@Leapalot I think later game the preserves jars still hold up with the lesser crops while I don't see the dehydrator doing the same.
One nice thing however is the dehydrator takes up at least 9 less spaces, You need 10 jars min to use up the same amount of fruit as the dehydrator in the same time period.
I'm wondering if it's a way to get cranberries some more later game life? Not needing a ton of area to process a field.
Really appreciate the summary right at the start!
I’m watching the whole video but I’ve never seen your videos before and I *was* just looking for a quick answer until I realized how interesting the math is
Dehydrators are going to be clutch for avoiding the inevitable Cindersnap forest full of kegs, since it's processing five at a time
I usually do okay with just the quarry and bus tunnel! Sometimes the train area too lol.
Smart people build big sheds, you know
@@peterlyaskovsky1473 nope, upgraded cabin is bigger. This works only in singleplayer, since another players don't want to make a home into a factory. And I don't like the way it looks, but it's quite an effective way to spare space
There's one other thing to spend your mushrooms on, put the brown mushrooms into the seed maker for fall seeds. Turn those mushrooms into plums and grapes!
Blueberry & cranberry best for this!
I mainly use common mushroom for fall wild speeds.
The dehydrator was definitely added with mushrooms in mind. They didn't really serve much of a purpose beyond crafting, and there wasn't much of a way to get them reliably. Now you're able to reliably obtain them, and profit off of them in a way that makes foraging a lot more viable.
This update really helped bring foraging and fishing a little more in line with farming in terms of reliable profit.
I'm very excited about fish smokers!
Always love your analysis videos, Leap. Your spreadsheets are always great.
However, as usual, I'm going to give my unwarranted thoughts:
Dehydrators seem to fill the same niche as agriculturist - namely, a way to increase your raw harvest production/a way to actually process said production. A massive farm with 1000+ blueberry or cranberry plants will LOVE the dehydrator, as there is no reasonable way to process that much produce in jars and kegs. And being able to earn a bit more from all of those plants rather than just selling them as is will be awesome. Honestly, I want to try it just because it sounds funny.
Problem is, much like agriculturist, the dehydrator's weakness is the fact that artisan is just too strong. Focusing on small scale wine making will still out complete doing something silly like the afore mentioned massive cranberry farm. And it'll be much less work. Combined with the fact that blueberries will be competing with star fruit wine making in summer and cranberries with sweet gem berries in autumn, and the fact that your operations don't have a suitable crop for spring means that kegs will remain the dominant strategy year round. Plus, you can still cover the valley (the quarry) with kegs, which means you will rarely produce fruit to the point that your kegs begin to fall behind.
Still a fun item with a funny niche use.
Concerned Ape is really dedicated to avoiding power-creep in each update. Arguably the best money-making strategies were established in like... 1.1 I want to say? But artisan is still busted as ever. Without doing the math I'm not really sure what adjustments would make it competitive, but 40% is an enormous modifier. It's a bummer that you can take 2 animal related professions and make less money from animal products than if you just went artisan.
Finally I can live out my fantasy of possessing an infinite supply of dried mangos.
More seriously, thanks for the informative video! 😊
Thank you so much for tldr. Its not that i dont watch the whole video i just still struggle with object permanence math style.
I think another optimization with dehydrator that isn't covered is how insanely *fast* you can reach capacity with them. They are *thirty five* times faster than kegs. For example, say you've get 280 pineapples per week. This could be covered by 100 preserves jars, selling for about 254k, at 910 gold each. Or, you could use 8 dehydrators as a stopgap measure, until you can use 140 kegs and 4 dehydrators selling for a total of 266k, or an average 949 gold each. And this is for less wood, less gold of materials, and less hassle (168 checks per week at the same time every day, instead of 280 checks at awkward times). And of course, once you hit all kegs, you make more money.
If you're on any goal besides perfection, getting 5-10 dehydrators may be easier to manage than 100 preserves jars. If you're on the road to perfection, you'll want all kegs eventually, but you can use dehydrators to fill the production gap while you wait.
I was looking for a video just like this yesterday and couldn't find one, spent hours googling "is the dehydrator worth it in stardew valley" haha
Then this popped up in my feed today! Thanks for all the work you put into this 😊
Glad you were able to find what you were looking for!
this video made me realize i wasnt missing a new fish under collections. I was missing a smoked fish! THANK YOU!!! Thanks for also telling me how to make raisins was also puzzled by that. 😍😍👍👍
I mean, with that high of productivity (processing time is quick and you process 5 at once), it makes sense to keep the gold value gain lower. It's the same with preserves jars, kegs, and casks. The longer the processing time, the more value added. Optimal way to do it will depend on how much you've grown and gathered to process. I think doing a mix of things is usually best. Dehydrator has the special benefit of being the only way to increase mushroom value. Also, the value increase to health and energy could be useful for mine food. I don't think you'd necessarily want a full shed full of them, but they definitely have their uses, and I like that we have a processing method that's very quick now.
I was wrong about mushrooms because you can jar them now. I haven't done that math on those yet though. 🤔
@@Leapalot We can jar mushrooms now?! Dang, so much new stuff. I'd assume jarring them is worth more then, but I guess we'll see. With the mushroom logs too, lots happening with mushroom farming.
yeah it seems that a bunch of the forageables have been added to artisan processing now. of the top of my head: leeks, wild horseradish, all mushrooms, hazelnuts, winter root and show yams can all be turned into juice or pickles
Love the fact that you do TL;DR / TL;DW, I felt the respect for my time, which is extremelly rare (and appreciated) these days.
Liked, commented, suscribed. H̶o̶p̶e̶f̶u̶l̶l̶y̶ t̶h̶a̶t̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶s̶ u̶p̶ t̶h̶e̶ 4̶ m̶i̶n̶u̶t̶e̶s̶ I̶ d̶i̶d̶n̶'t̶ w̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ NVM, super interesting video, ended up watching all of it. Thank you for not stretching your content for the algorithms.
Glad it had the info you were looking for! Appreciate the kind words! I do a lot of digging for info and I hate when the conclusion is 13 minutes into a 16 minute video. 😅
You gave us the essential information we needed and allowed us to determine if the rest of the video was worth our time. Thank you for that. Subscribed.
Instantly subscribed by the way. Perfectly concise tldw at the beginning, and really clear explanation of the maths for us nerds that want to hear it anyways. And even your pinned comment is a perfect summary of what to do and not do with the dehydrator. Seriously incredible stuff.
I have no idea what you’ve just said, but like I enjoy that you made this. Can anyone give me a quick summary?
Dehydrators are a thing that exist in stardew valley now
I think the TL;DR is hopefully good, but here's an even shorter one. Use the dehydrator for your overflow fruits like cranberries and blueberries when you have so many that you'll never be able to process them with kegs and preserves jars.
@@Leapalot Thats the comment I needed thanks mate
Just wanted to comment thanks for making the video so accessible and efficient. Very nice to just put the main findings at the start of the video.
Very educational! I'm very much interested in Fish Smoker too, and perhaps the new bait-makers as well!
Bait makers do seem interesting!
Lovely presentation. I'm waiting for mobile but learning this before the update gave me a heads up. I don't have to regret choosing only one food processor at this point. I will make all 3 just for food and profit though especially the berries type since those produce more then the rest unless I sell for cash.
Perfect! Hoping you mobile players get the update soon! 🤞
This thing is mainly for the shrooms. Haven't tested out yet but I'm thinking mass mushroom logs on Ginger island, then we raise pigs on our main farm and make it rain every day on the island, cutting the time essentially to 2 days for theoretically 5 purple mushrooms (as long as we can mass mystic tree seeds--I don't think the trees need to be fully mature to count for the logs). Dehydrated purple mushrooms should come at 2660 G, so we are looking at ~1300 G/day per log. That's around the same as a gold chicken (made into mayo) in terms of G/day--not bad for a single log! Also. finally a reasonable profitable use for fairy dust (I tested, you can use dust on the log--and the mushrooms pop out immediately, but only once per day) if my math works out.
Do the mushroom logs work off the farm? Like the forest, backwoods, train station ...?
@@slwrabbits Tested, it does! Anywhere on Ginger Island, and also the railroad.
@@kb27787 Awesome, thank you! I need to save my farm land for growing grass for my horde of rabbits.
Liked the video and I am leaving it running just because of your TLDR. Appreciate it.
"It's a good way to burn through your 600 cranberries you filthy hoarder"
I am in this picture and do not like it. 🤣
Another important thing to note is space efficiency. 1 Dehydrator consumes the same amount of materials as 5 kegs/jars for a roughly similar end G.
Basically you are trading overall profit for QoL, speed, and needing to craft 80% less machines to process the same amount of items.
Thats a good point. I can spend a few in game houre just restocking the kegs.
I'm not sure about that, by the time you have processed 1 fruit in a keg, you'll have processed about 35 fruits in a dehydrator.
But I need my cranberries and blueberries for the Late game color quest, that's why I hoard them D:
Good video!
That's totally fair. I actually usually just buy stuff if I need to do that quest tbh. 😅
That quest (and the craftinv/shipping perfection reqs) is why I'm a filthy hoarder. Though my poison of choice tends to be dwarf scrolls (just to get rid of them), salmonberries, copper ore/earth crystals, sap, fiber, blackberries/frozen tears/blue trash, iridium ore/void essence/bug meat.
@@willb5278Dwarf Scrolls are ultra cheap liked gifts for the dwarf, if you haven't maxed him out yet
I was mainly here for the TLDR, but because it was so easy to get to, and this video actualy sounds quite interesting, I'll be saving this to watch later. You've earned a sub from like 5 mins of me watching, that's impressive :0
Very useful video, appreciate the quick explanation at the beginning
ive seen a few other people mention it but its nice for early game. i personally enjoy using it bc my partner and i do have a shed with preserves jars and we'll save our low quality blueberries and cranberries and it just takes sooo long and im not really a fan of how long it takes. i was mostly avoiding spoilers n so i also avoided yknow videos like yours for the first little while so i can play but even i noticed that dehydrators werent...really that much better. however, i still enjoy using them and plan to have a lil part of my farm to use them especially bc i accidentally ended up with 4 fruit trees AFTER picking fruit bat cave (i almost always pick mushroom but my partner converted me and now look where we are). im not always a money focused and hyper efficient player so im just making a point to use the new items! overflow for crops like blueberries is where i ended up using the dehydrators most for sure
Thank you! This was very helpful. I watched the whole video, but the quick summary before the explanation was nice to simplify everything. Thank you for mentioning the exception with Botonist and no Artisan. I will be using Coopmaster for some time.
Said all the info up front instead of dragging me through 10 minutes for an answer. subbed and watched the rest.
This is kinda what I was thinking it would be. I figured the dehydrater would be best for a fast infusion of cash vs longer timed machines. So something to use early on then as a backup/specific use machine. Like how once you have a bunch of kegs you slow down the use of your preserves jars.
I'm not filthy! I bathe at least once a year! :P Great video. I always love when you pop out a good spreadsheet and explain this stuff. It does actually help some of us.
Automate with this in the mushroom cave is nice too
Dude thanks so much for the video. I like how you give TL;DW at the start, go into math at points, and reiterate the final points at the end. Great job!
There are a few ways to get regular quality mushrooms with botanist professions such as mushroom caves or drops like the mushroom enemies in volcano
I got to the stopping by part, liked and left. Great tutorial, keep it up
Thanks for giving the tldr in the beginning. Appreciated!
The fact that you put not only a tldw comment but had the tldr in the video within the first minute is amazing! Thank you so much for being so concise.
I hugely appreciate the TLDR at the top, you saved me fr, subscribing for sure
"I would be really surprised if anyone is building their entire farm around the banana crop in particular."
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Oh, hi Argon 😅
I did this with my friend. We were very poor
I LOVE LOVE the dehydrator because waiting on crops to process and filling 100 kegs is boring. Honeslty having the smaller boost, but tomorrow and 5 at once, is just so good for me. I can see myself processing most things in the dehydrator that i was previously selling raw out of laziness for quick profit
Solid, love the tldr and the maf👍
Fire quartz can be thrown in a crystalarium, and clay is available from the dig site, but of course both of those take longer to get.
For mushrooms, the competing strat is tea bushes, especially once you get some seed makers to throw your commons into. 5 common mushrooms -> about 10 seeds -> about 5 bushes (250g each after the 1.6 price nerf) -> about 2500g, vs 5 common mushrooms (40g each) -> 1 dried mushroom (40 * 7.5 + 25 = 325g) -> 455g (with artisan)? Am I getting all the arithmetic right here? Crafting tea bushes also eats into your wood and fiber a bit, but considering the new summer weather...
This is pretty interesting! I don't want to discount it at all, but you'll need to be at level 9 farming for the seed maker or finish the dye bundle which I suppose is technically summer? By the time I'm at farming 9 I'm not sure I'm still doing tea sapling strats? Maybe it would be worth it depending on how much wood and fiber you can pile up. 🤔 Thanks for giving me something to think on!
I wonder if this changes the math on cranberries vs pumpkin s or starfruit vs blue berry? The cost of the machine starts to matter there and being able to get the value quickly might make high volume crops better for runs trying to minimize in game days
It's a good question! I like that I can buy all of the materials for a preserves jar though. Kegs are a little different obviously, but the materials are still really reliably easy to find. With the dehydrator I'd have to buy the recipe first and then hunt down fire quartz and clay. Those aren't the worst things to hunt for... I dunno! Worth digging into!
Really fantastic breakdown. Thank you!!!
That is everything I expect from Leap. Top quality, factual and very much needed information!
I would love a video on everything new? And how it’s used, like this video. I learn best with video content and I find them very helpful.
Don’t you call me a filthy hoarder, it might be true, but don’t call me a filthy hoarder
love the TL;DR at the top, Ik YT punishes you for it but I appreciate you sticking to it
thanks for making a tldr! i think its even the first time i saw someone do that and i love it.
I'll be honest, food that requires fewer clicks to eat is always solid. You can stock up on food without going to Ginger Island.
Yeah, I don't trust myself to eat more than one food item before something else comes along and clobbers me into oblivion. I have poor reaction time and low tolerance for stress. When I get there, I'll have to see if some dried fruit will replace my stack of gold cheese.
you can put mushrooms in a preserves jar tho?
also the new mushroom log can give iridium mushrooms.
idk if that's new, I don't remember it being a thing but it is.
Jarred mushrooms are new! I didn't know about them yet so I'd have to recheck my math for sure!
To be fair it makes sense that there isn't a 100% obvious best choice, like if 1 of the 3 was objectively the best option all the time then that would be dumb for a game such as Stardew Valley, the various money making options are meant to be roughly balanced in terms of profit so you can freely experiment.
With preserves jars, kegs and now dehydrators it's not a question of "should you use them?" but rather "when should you use them?"
This is true! But unfortunately there are some choices that are basically 100% slam dunks, so it was worth investigating. When's the last time you took Tracker at foraging 10 for example? 😅
I don’t understand any of the math! But I’m watching anyway for that sweet watch time bonus for you :)
Also because heck why not! I like your voice, and even though I don’t understand I’m still entertained haha!
Going forward I will be dehydrating my mushrooms and no fruits! (E…exept maybe my 600 cranberries 😂😂. God it’s so crazy you guessed the exact number I have)
Thank you! Cranberries are great to dehydrate! So are other low value fruits like blackberries, apples, etc if you have a whole stack of them just, sitting around. 😊
This video could benefit so much from plotting some of the numbers on a graph.
Excellent video man
Fantastic video!
Thanks for answering that questions :)
I wish thes analyses took into account the cost if a keg, jar or dehydrator respectively. Wood isnt free, robin do be making money off you shed full of kegs. Like the size footprint of dehydrators makes na interesting use case even if the product is less valuble becuase each machine eats 5 at a time. No shed costs. No deforestation to build kegs. No half kf farm dedicated to tapping oak trees
love that this update gave us more non farming options and made the other profession choices at lv 5 and 10 a better option
More options are always good! I wouldn't cry about an artisan nerf either tbh.
i never got the blueprints for this. so im here watching to find out why or how to get :)
got blueprints from pierre's! thanks :)
Like and a comment for yhe algorithm.
Thanks for opening with a summary! You're a champ
Thank you for this!
Update on mystic trees calculations:
TLDR;
Logs can be better than crystalariums!
Heavy tapper mystic tree + mushroom log gives about 227/day per 1 tile with my layout, or 247/day per tile with tapper skill.
Or 1114 per action, 262 per tile per action. ( Crystalarium has 195 for both /tile/day and /tile/action ).
The only issue is to find 1k+ Mahogany Seeds.
Formulas:
( price_per_shroom * avg_harvest * dried_coeff * artisan ) / tiles_per_1log_cluster / days
tiles_per_1log_cluster in my layout contains exactly 1 mystic tree and 1 log, takes 3.5 tiles, but due to required trees on layout edges it's not 3.5, but 4.25. With 213 logs in 3 double-lines it's 4.25.
purple = (255*4.2616 * 1.5 * 1.4) / 4.25 / 4 = 134
common = (45*2.7 * 1.5 * 1.4) / 4.25 / 4 = 15
tapper = 1250 / 4.25 / 3 = 98
total = 134 + 15 + 98 = 227
Now for (per action)
(purple_gain + common_gain + mystic tree gain) / (actions_collect_7_shrooms + actions_to_dehydrate + actions_to_collect_syrop)
((255*4.2616 * 1.5 * 1.4) + (45*2.7 * 1.5 * 1.4) + 1250) / ( 1 + 2*7/5 + 1) ~= 789
789/4.25 = 186 per action per tile. On par with 195 of crystalarium.
Personally I used it for random fruits and mushrooms from the mushroom logs, coconuts from the desert or ginger island plus I ended up with a bunch of mango and banana saplings from golden coconuts so those usually ended up in the dehydrator. Definitely not something to focus on but a nice little bonus for fruit and mushrooms you don't know what to do with
I do wish you could put truffles in it though, I understand why you can't but I still want it to work
i think it would be cool to make an anticapitalism route using dehydrator with a mushroom log-three farm and a fish smoker if you choose the riverland farm
That's a fantastic idea.
@@Leapalot thanks 🥹😊
im in late game so a lot of my overflow crops are high quality ancient fruit, but i think dehydrators will be a good way to process my crops like pineapples and misc tree fruits that i have around mostly for decoration
a full greenhouse of blueberries with 24 dehydrators can easily carry you very early on, making 300-350 fruits every 4 days, taking 4 days to fully use the dehydrators making it a self efficient building with around 12,000 gold per day, more or less, every cheap to mount since it only cost 24 fire quartz and 48 clay + wood.
this crops are the most valuable one with dehydrators, the second is cranberries.
you can use this until you have a good amount of kegs to change your greenhouse to one more profitable, but since it's faster to harvest now with mastery, i wonder if it's worth it
By the way. You can now put common mushrooms in the kegs. Figured that out by accident. Not sure if it works for anything else.
It does work for lots of new stuff! I updated my pinned comment to reflect for now, but I might update the actual verbiage and do a bigger video once I have more info on everything!
The only two i know of and have tried are winter root and common mushroom, so my guess is most positive-energy forage? But I’ve not checked code or heard anyone else mention this
Just came back from Al Gore’s video, looks like lots of forage can be kegged, all can be jarred aside from negative energy stuff. Notably leek artisan goods are horrible once you have the leek sell price multiplier
You should emphasize, that it is a good processing item for the early game, since you get your money more quickly (-> can reinvest in new seeds quicker) and the building cost is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than a keg. In the late game its still kegs though.
Don't dehydrators require fire quartz? Given, there's not a lot of uses for fire quartz, but they're definitely not as common as copper and iron for kegs. You may be able to get a handful of them without grinding, but it's definitely easier to just get a few iron and copper bars. The most tedious part of kegs is honestly just waiting for oak resin. But, that's not hard, it's just a bit of waiting, and can be farmed relatively easily.
waiting for oak resin is basically losing money if you could have built dehydrators instead. You can get fire quarz easily with a crystalarium (which you get from the commutiy center), it takes less than a day for 1 fire quarz and you are ready to go. 1 oak resin takes 7-8 days. So dehydrators are definitly easier to aquire.@@amokriinprolgiid3409
thank you!
as soon as you have access to the greenhouse and the seed maker you will make an infinite supply of ancient fruit anyway right?
unless you fill the greenhouse with coffee instead for that tasty speed boost
You should make the first part a 60 second short for a nice TLDR
Dehydrator is good for mushrooms and normal & silver quality of overflowing fruits
I appreciate the quick explanation at the beginning so I'ma leave the video mute in the background for watch time
I have like 900 ancient fruit ready every week basically, i think i can separated the high quality ones like 200/300 and use the rest to dehydrated
Honestly I really like using the dehydrator to make raisins mostly because I like the sprite texture lol
They can be pretty handy too!
don't overthink the 7 days vs the 6.25 day part. unless a player is hyper efficient and calculate going to it as soon as it finishes, most likely they'll round it to 7 too
I'm still a new player and had started a Riverlands farm to learn fishing on my Switch. I still consider it the farm in actively playing since its abben a really good farm with lots of Supercucumbers caught and, a fished up dino egg, 2 Ancicent Seeds before Summer, and 3/4 Dwarve scrolls midsummer. Cant wait to login in a couple weeks whenn I'm off work to try out new stuff assuming 1.6 dropped on the Switch. Too bad I've got 10 days left in Summer and I need to get in the mines and not fish after spending 3,000 G on bait and trapper bobbers trying to catch the Crimson on the Switch only to fail on 1.5.