Everything Wrong With Battle Los Angeles In 18 Minutes Or Less
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- Battle: L.A. had a fantastic trailer!!! And that's about the nicest thing I can say about it. Also... here are its sins...
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I'd like to imagine that in all these movies with hilariously ineffective alien invaders, said alien invaders are not actually an army or organized invasion force, but more like the galactic equivalent of a Somalian pirate gang.
id buy that because a real well trained force with true alien weapons, yeah we would be fucked , till we reverse engineered their tech, on the bright side firearms work in space, long as you can counteract recoil they still fire and everything
I like this idea and will copy it from now on.
I can see that. Because a unified and organized alien species would either not waste time invading one populated planet when they can strip mine every uninhabited rock in our system without issues or they would just bombard us from orbit with asteroids or those Hammer of the Gods things from GI Joe.
Some of the scientific community believe if aliens did want to invade; we wouldn't even know - some brand new super virus would pop up out of nowhere and we'd all be dead before they even bother to set foot on the rock.
I like to equate that to smallpox and the native americans.
Koshiro2k3 Thank you
"The Marines consider the most comfortable introduction to a civilian is to scream loudly while pointing a rifle at them. It's in the manual and everything!"
No, literally, it is in the manual.
Markius Fox Huh I guess you Learn something new everyday 🤔
Markius Fox that's what he meant by "it's in the manual"
you cant be serious.... pls dont be shitting me.
Well that's fucking stupid.
Markius Fox Marine humor...
"military watching the news to find out whats happening" uh yeah that's how it works in real life too
So the billionaires were the generals all along....
Typical american civilian thinking the military is some kind of finely tuned machine or some shit
Gotta wait to hear from the BBC
on god right lolz
@@HiyoruMikiyazoya If we don't know what the fuck we're doing, how is the enemy going to figure out how to counter us?
Checkmate.
Actually a decent amount of these are not sins but actually a pretty accurate portrayal of Marines. There are a mild few but that's about it.
Oh shit mate, remember desert storm ? (It is about name)
@@grummanf14tomcat40 i might change my name to AH-64 Apache if this keeps up
This makes me happy
Remember me from Taco Bell?
And CS f*cked up at 14:18; the official term is "marinading."
@Supes Is fodder lol wut?
Can we start having a "Michelle Rodriguez tough Latina chick" cliche? She's basically the same character in this, SWAT, fast and furious, resident evil, etc.
Don't forget Avatar
You forgot to add "hot" to that cliche, sir. Michelle Rodriguez is hot as hell.
Hot isn't always a necessity, sometimes they substitute butch functionality for style/hotness.
butch functionality can be hot :P
And Lost. Was no different there either.
0:30 Actually....I used to be an intelligence analyst in the US Army, and yes, we watched the news all the time on the watch floor. During Operation Desert Fox we had CNN on constantly because the reporters hunkered down in Baghdad could get video of the air strikes out much faster than proper military channels. In a scenario like the one in the movie, every military installation with access to cable television worldwide would be tuned in to the reports from the scene, including those in the Pentagon and White House.
As far as front-line Marines hanging out at a stateside base during what was peacetime, no--they do not have access to classified information.
Well said, but you can't expect someone who never served to know all that. The average civilian has no fucking clue what we really do. I was a line medic for about half of my career, by the way. You would've been in our battalion S3 I believe. Just so ya know I wasn't some pencil pusher.
I always preferred the title "chairborne ranger". :)
Yup. When I left the good life at Campbell to be a POG at the hospital at Belvoir, I became a ChairAssault clinic NCOIC. We started working with Chair Force medics from Andrews a few years before I got out. Hottest military women I've ever seen.
I did AIT on an air force base, I well remember the wonders of USAF women.
"7-4-7 rollin' down the strip, MI daddy on a TDY trip..."
Harv72b bahahahahaha, you watch the Clinton **news** Network .
I actually enjoyed this movie
Me too, but I don’t know shit about the military other than a few books I’ve read
i just not satisfied with the ending
Me to
Me too
Me too
I was in a unit in the air force that required a high security clearance, and yet we still had TVs that was always tuned to the national news. So technically that's not a sin that troops with access to intelligence would watch the news. The reason why we watched the news was because often the news reporters on the ground had access to intelligence quicker than we were able to see it and pass it to the appropriate ranks. So that part of the movie was realistic.
Cinemasins, once again I beg of you. Please, in the name of God. My children are starving. My well is dry. My wife is crying. The citizens call out for justice. They call for you to DO SHARKBOY AND LAVAGIRL
Mynameisnotjoshua omfg yesss
I read my "wife is dry" lmao
Aww yiss. This needs to happen. I'd pay any amount of money.
This is so of the best pharsing I've ever seen
I actually liked this movie... But only because it's basically X-Com the movie. Half your squad dies saving 3 Damn civilians.
Hunter Baker at least they didn't have Chrysalids (from the original X-Com)... 《shivers》
Hunter Baker I love this movie simply because even though it's based on a fake thing. It's accurate to military standards and it shows good companionship
Great... now I remember the pain in the ass that are the Chrysalids.
Everything else, I can handle with poise and grace, aside from the occasional RNGesus falling asleep at the helm.
Chrysalids can die in a fire...
That being said. You're spot on, I didn't make that connection until now but it makes more sense. XD
Areanyusernamesleft what about the new Xcom where the Chrysalids hack open a civilian and turn them into another Chrysalid. But nothing a rocket couldn't take care of
That's XCOM baby
I was in the Persian gulf in 2003 during the "Shock and awe" campaign, we watched our bombs hit their targets on CNN.
That's so savage
@@ncrtransport5993 Not so much, was just doing my part.
@@Themadoutbacker I mean savage like amazing that you would be able to watch it cnn. Regardless. Thank you for your service!
@@ncrtransport5993 yea it was pretty surreal watching the efforts all the crew put in just to get mutations dropped on the other side of the world. Thank you.
@@Themadoutbacker how does it feel like killing men severing thier country, that you invaded?
The scene with the dog is actually pretty accurate. Marines and soldiers aren't cold, robotic professionals as some people think. They do dumb shit like this all the time, and even crack jokes in the middle of firefights. Just saying that shouldn't have qualified as a sin.
Big facts the dog would have definitely made it way back with the squad after the patrol
A lot of these sins don’t fit
Also, there’s a base full of Marines and Ships and San Diego. Meh, let’s send Marines from fucking *N E B R A S K A*
@@obi-wankenobi6036 the aliens only landed on coastal areas from what I saw, so it made sense to send everyone. The ones in San Diego were the ones setting up everything while the others were arriving
@@chlaco8739 hmm, maybe instead of setting things up, they could be the ones, oh I don’t know,
*F I G H T I N G*
Like bruh, it’s not like they’re a reserve unit.
I love how he pointed out that the lieutenant is in charge despite the ssgt having more experience. It's funny cause that's basically the entire military.
Yeah this isn't a sin, it's just reality. Officer NCO dynamic.
The fact that it's real doesn't make it any less of a sin.
The purpose of a lieutenant's position is to learn how to work with his NCOs and communicate between his unit and his superiors. Basically, just to train new officers how to be officers, platoon sgts could replace them no problem.
Well yeah it makes it less of a sin, it's the way the military works. A older NCO essentially takes a new Officer under his wing to show him the ropes before the Officer goes on to lead large formations of men. But even if it where not sensible, the fact that it happens in real life makes it good screenwriting rather than something sinable.
That is literally the military lol and leave it up to butter bars to get you lost even with excellent Intel.
movie sin #4 doesn't count cause unless you are a general or intel branch you dont know shit as military personel, so them sitting around watching the news is prob the most accurate thing in this movie.
you mean 3
lesryglrhfohser its 4
Yeah, but after you've just been ordered to move out? I would think you would, you know, start moving out ASAP.
What boggles my mind is that the alien weakspot is "to the right of where the heart would be" you know what's to the right of the heart? Center-of-mass, you know, where you were aiming already?!
Exactly
Yeah that was the worst part for me. I still like the movie but I always roll me eyes at that part.
Isn’t the heart(for humans) center mast.
@@theglitchcounter264 No, left side of the chest. Lungs are center of mass.
I mean, these are aliens, completely unknown creatures to the combatants.
did he just give a sin for having a dominos in the background...
That's what they do. Sin random shit nobody notices, makes it better in my opinion
People need to understand he does these for ENTERTAINMENT.
And says nothing about the Shell station across the street.
He doesn't know how significant Domino's is to the military. It's a lifesaver on Thursday nights when they make you clean the barracks for so long you miss chow.
@@joshuaohara5472 facts, military and dominoes go hand in hand
"Classified army personel watching the news to see what's happening". As a soldier this is actually legit.
The only thing not legit is that, in an area that size, there are usually multiple TVs tuned to the same news broadcast. You know, just in case you wanted to watch it from a different angle.
"This is need to know information."
(Turns on TV)
hahahaha
Aviv Gannon nowaday i feel like this CZcams channel is becoming way to picky with things that aren't even bad about the movies
So fucking true...... I'm so glad someone said this
"LT. It's in charge even though SSG. Has more experience" congratulations, you just summed up the US military in a single sentence
Yup.
Exactly
Its called chain of command...thats not even a sentence
Mikey Menthol maybe make sure you know what you’re talking about before you comment so you don’t look fucking stupid eh pal?
UrsinRath shut up boot
Lets all agree that the helicopter scene with the alien ships crashing on the coast was glorious.
Sin #34: Cinemasins is unaware of how Christians study the Bible. "For" is in parentheses because some translations do not include that conjunction. The highlighted words are likely for doing a word study of their Greek counterparts--their definition and usage. No Bible translation is perfect.
As a Marine that did combat patrols in Fallujah I must state..... at 6:18 there should be no sin. We stopped and pet and gave names to many random dogs, cats, donkeys, goats, ECT. This is the one accurate scene in this movie.
Not while under attack though? Cause if you did while under attack - i am very concerned about troops training....
Why hot lead was flying around your ass?
They were not under attack at the moment the dog came out. Yes i would stopped to pet a dog that came out after a fire fight.
-US Army vet
Dude they were IN A COMBAT ZONE. With possible hostiles around them. They don't know it's safe or even that they are not being watched.
And if you are seriously telling me that you would be ok being distracted and petting a dog IN A COMBAT zone, instead of watching for hostiles and covering your teammates - I highly doubt you were ever in ANY army. Or possibly you could have been in a office.
@@cl1cka Wow. You're telling veterans what to do in combat. Wow.
"Soldiers with access to classified intel have to watch the news for intel"
TRUTH
1 sin removed
smokebomb.exe and 20 more sins for each time he called Marines soldiers.
not everyone has access , so yeah news media is faster
truckman63 I mean, for anyone who isn't a part of any of the US military branches, it's totally accurate and acceptable to call Marines "soldiers." I get that within our military system "soldier" refers to members of the US Army, but for all of us normal civilians who never served, Marines are soldiers.
and that always twists a vets cookie a lil
True. Even the president is doing that nowadays
“Or do the aliens think its fake news” how much I love you already .
that solder wasn't yelling 25 minutes he was yelling 25 meters
How it actually happens: everyone just gets bombed to shit from Space
Yup. "It's the only way to be sure" since 1986.
That's what they do in Halo and low in behold the only reason the humans survive is cause of a civil war.
Baker's Bread They technically wouldn't even need to go near our planet. Just go to the asteroid field and send a large asteroid towards our planet. done.
+Goob... and they need humans to use Forerunner tech (the halo at least)
As seen in Starship Troopers.
"So this one massive structure controls all of our aircraft?"
"Yep"
"And it's that big because..."
"It has to look imposing. Psychological warfare my dude!"
"Great... and what if it gets targeted by our enemies?"
"Well, I doubt anyone would figure out they need to bomb the giant floating space thing, so I didn't bother adding any armor. Also, if it goes down we lose all of our air power immediately..."
"Bob?"
"Yeah?"
"You're fired..."
Why it's always Bob's fault? I bet Steve and Larry makes mistakes too.
Lol I think it’s all they had....and what else would control them? Usually you need a command post and they did try to hide it....so I’m not sure what your getting at here
Pretty sure 1 meter is 3 yards or I'm tripping
Must be the same guy that designed the Death Star! Anyone? Anyone?
The armor was the drones, the drones tanked most of the missiles. If they did add armor it wouldn’t be that effective.
Even after doing 4 years in the marines, I still love this freaking movie.
The main purpose of the movie was to entertain with a lot of action, which I think they did a great job. It's a bit like 300, crappy movie, but really entertaining
I watch it every Nov 10
I think you missed the mark on some of the sins related to the military. This was actually pretty accurate in a lot of ways. Soldiers below the rank of general get all their information from the news or internal gossip, unless it's directly related to the mission their about to go on (and it's deemed important that they know). Also the fact that the staff sergeant is far more experienced is just normal for the military. Lieutenants are generally new with very little experience. This would not create conflict.
Yeah staff Sergeant Nantz fought in iraq so he's by far more experienced than the LT that is why you the NCOs are the backbone of the Military.
He also missed a major sin. 20 years in the Marines and Nantz is still just an E-6 Staff Segt.??!! Nantz must have been a fk up or ran over some Japanese people while drunk driving in Okinawa or some shit.
You're not a real Marine unless you have at least 3 ninja punches.
20 years as a staff, I'm more shocked he wasn't "encouraged" to separate for being utterly useless. Unless that's just an Air Force thing where they tend to remove you if you aren't taking the time to test when qualified too.
@@TheGLORY13 shit happens. If you don't have an NJP, you aren't trying. And of course that's an airman thing. You can afford to.
I’ve met a few 16 and 17 year Ssgt’s in the Infantry that were pretty far from being garbage. So I don’t doubt there is a few 20 year staff sausages in seeing the 03 field now a days is hard for promotions
Okinawa, Okinawa never changes....
"Man, this movie's gone a long time without a jump scare cliché, so maybe I should take off a sin."
*ALIEN THAT SOUNDS LIKE SKIDDING TIRES*
I just laughed at that part because of how much it actually sounded like skidding tires.
One of my top ten. This is so good to watch over and over again.
6:45 - I love how he sins the news for showing DOW Jones during more important, worse shit - and yet News Channels are doing the exact same now during the Coronavirus pandemic.
exonwarrior I know your comment is old but an ALIEN INVASION IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from hunkering down at home due to a virus! Seriously though, if you're at home/at work and you hear that cities/towns are being invaded by ALIENS, would you suddenly go on a (stock) selling spree? NO, you'd be contacting your family/friends and making plans to get the hell out of town!
Yeah covid is not quite as bad as alien attacks.
@@HDGuy001 They also did it during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The fact that something extremely important is going on actually supports having the ticker be on the stock market. It is the most common use of the ticker, it isn't like they have someone manually adding to the ticker for it constantly updating it. It will continue to display until someone goes through the effort to stop it. The guy in charge was busy with the invasion.
It's funny because a lot of the sins pointed out on the military end aren't actually sins. Yes, we watch the news too. Yes, a lot of people retire- no, retirement doesn't mean you can't get called back. Yes, lieutenants are cocky and know-it-all as fuck. I could go on but you get the point.
Not to mention the amount of inexperienced lieutenants that just graduated.
It's satire...
@@deanstewart2382 This isn't satire. That's not what that word means. This is a comical list of annoyances. Godzebra is saying being annoyed at the way the military is shown is misplaced because it's not far off from the real thing.
Jon Dyson
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/satire
Read the second definition, please.
This movie was like some crapy military recruitment campaign.
Should have sinned the fact that the guy retiring after 20 years is still only a Staff Sergeant. He should have pinned gunny by now.
Maybe he's a real marine and was NJP'd a couple times lol (I say as someone that wasn't NJP'd lol)
Smartasshole in that case he deserves all of the shit that his junior marines gave him.
Yea because a bunch of rowdy Marines really hate someone who was NJPed...
My best friend was almost NJP'd like 6 times lol somehow manage to avoid all 6
I was almost NJP's once but it was minor and I ended up making it to formation anyway...eventually lol
Your buddy was prolly blowing the Battalion Commander.... maybe even regiment....
The alien in the pool was spec ops and could have been sporting tougher cybernetics
2:51 fun fact Aaron Eckhart actually broke his arm performing a stunt and he never missed a day of filming because of it
when I have kids I will tell them I survived Battle: Los Angeles and 2012
not a bad idea tbh
"When i get kids" lol do u go to kids r' us or smthin to buy them?
lmao
Etay curkeuc he said HAVE not get
Dont Get It TWISTED edited my dude
lol you're probably not a vet because we help each other with MANY things including shopping and wedding planning. Also this is how we brief each other and not EVERY troop has access to classified info and yes we watch the news.
Insultimg cinema sins 10000 sins for u
Insulting*
It isn't an insult, learn what an insult is.
TheDoge Pro101 the video is S-A-C-A-R-S-A-M
@@noblenormie1179 Well sure, but if you're talking about the comment, then...
Sin: you don't go to parties in uniform unless you're deployed and the party is on base
Sin: learns important info on alien hearts, doesn't radio it in
Correct me if im wrong , didnt one of alien ships took out the radio tower ?
I watched this movie when it came out, and watched it again recently on Netflix. I read reviews from when it came out and the movie was universally seen as not good. That sucks because this movie was way ahead of its time then. It shows exactly how the military would engage an unknown threat. Also, it shows how just because aliens have superior technology, we could still be able to beat them. This movie really felt like a video game. It did a very good job of putting the viewer in the shoes of the marines and showed us exactly how it would feel to be on the battlefield.
>we could still be able to beat them
Bullshit. In reality aliens would place their ships in orbit, and then bomb our cities with asteroids. We would be lucky, if them could hear our capitulation message. That's why I loved Half-Life 2's "7 hour war", because it made sense.
@@DamianOchramowicz someone pointed out in the comments that its super dumb for everyone to always assume that an invading alien "army" is the super advanced equivalent of a first world nations military. And i tend to agree with that statement. Frankly this military force that our guys went up against seemed a lot more like the equivalent of an organized pirate organization than some galactic civilizations military force. Their gear had that whole second hand kind of feel to it. And even their craft seemed almost second rate. Theres any number of reasons that that kind of force wouldnt just use an orbital bombardment of asteroids. in the case here where i believe they were taking water, im not 100% sure on that its been awhile since i watched it, an orbital strike with asteroids large enough to wipe us out would quite possibly vaporize a significant portion of our oceans as the earths temperature skyrocketed. Fling enough giant space rocks with metal cores and its possible you might accidentally do that. Then too, if they are after other mineral resources, inwhich case as was stated they should be mining the entire damned solar system... You face the problem of accidentally liquifying said resources. Actually, speaking of the rest of the solar system, both oxygen and hydrogen are incredibly abundant in our solar system, it shouldnt be hard for a spacefaring civilizations military to, oh idfk, MAKE WATER. Almost makes you think this force didnt have that tech. Oh..and then theres europa, soooo...
@@canisarcani
RE: ". . . an orbital strike with asteroids large enough to wipe us out . . ."
The aliens wouldn't have to wipe us out. All they would have to do would be to destroy our military and industrial capability. This movie, while it was an entertaining shoot-'em-up, fails the realism test on two major grounds. (1) The aliens could get plenty of water from capturing a few comets in the Oort Cloud. (2) If the aliens, for some reason, chose to invade Earth, they wouldn't need to put troops on the ground; asteroid bombardment from low Earth orbit (LEO) would do the trick. Of course, if the aliens did that, then we wouldn't have much of a movie, would we?
@@spaceman081447 If you want to occupy Earth, you definitely do have to land. If they want to eradicate us, then yeah, just chuck asteroids at us. Occupation requires more than just bombardment.
Accurate strikes on point targets would be difficult from long distances without midcourse correction, but lower orbits make you more vulnerable to potential response from ground-based missiles, depending on what the defenders can field. But of course, if you want to be ferrying rocks to Earth, that takes a while, too, so that's time to developing ground based missiles with larger boosters to try to return fire to higher altitudes.
So, yeah, it's not as simple as just sitting in orbit and dropping shit, unless you are just aiming to wipe everyone out.
@@DavidEllis94
RE: ". . . but lower orbits make you more vulnerable to potential response from ground-based missiles, depending on what the defenders can field."
It takes a while to get to even low Earth orbit from the surface. So the aliens would be able to easily spot missile launches from their heat blooms and take them out with either lasers or kinetic kill weapons. Then, of course, the aliens would nuke the missile launch sites.
I agree, though, that occupation, actual alien "boots on the ground," presents a different situation. But why would the aliens give up such a significant advantage, the space "high ground," without prior preparation? The aliens could conceivably bombard the planet, either with rocks or nukes, until most of the planet's population is either dead or hiding in small disorganized groups in caves.
However, as I've said before, the basic premise of the movie (that the aliens want our water) is faulty. It should be easy for anyone capable of interstellar travel to harvest a few comets from the Oort Cloud to get all the water (plus a lot of other useful stuff) they could want and they wouldn't even have to worry about any pesky humans.
I believe he was yelling "25 meters!" Not minutes.
Indeed.
The Marine was yelling 25 meters. When you make contact with the enemy, the drill is to call out distance and direction. It helps cue your buddies where they should be scanning. In theory, it sounds simple, but as soon as that first round wiz by, all hell breaks loose and it's very difficult to communicate. Interesting things you didn't mention. Beginning on helicopter ride, they were having conversations. Can't do that on a military helicopter as there's no sound proofing from the turbine engines and blades, so unless they all have comms, you can't hear then next person beside you even if you're yelling. Also, if anyone remembers the tank fight, the dude rocking the fifty cal, the brass falling were blanks. You can tell if you look at the necks of the casings they are crimped indicating they're blanks. Finally, the rocket launcher used by Air Force chick is not guided. The AT4 has no guidance systems nor does it have a smart warhead. All you have is Kentucky windage and an effective range of 300m (a little over 300 yrds). Cheers!
Relieved that this was here and not buried!
Bro I love when someone fires launchers in movies because that damn backblast would fuck everyone up😂
We have found potential history!
Except instead of tanks it’s modern weaponry
resolute 123 thanks for your service dickhead
@@dukedevilAXCLps3 no need for obscenities
Having served... I can tell you one of the most realistic parts of this whole film is soldiers sitting round watching the news for information... mushrooms...Also... shopping for flowers with your mucker? Happens. (Thats two so far right?) Me again.... after contacts things do get quiet and people have empathy... so learning a dogs name could, would and does happen.OK, I get it, you've never been in the forces therefore you've never been wounded or seen someone wounded... but trained or not, getting hurt makes people act weird sometimes, despite their training.
One second you're saying a wounded soldier is trained and acting outside his training while wounded, the next you're saying trained soldiers using the correct method to indicate an LZ are doing it wrong? Jezz.
Again... An officer, especially in the American military is generally considered the leader. The senior NCO is there to guide him or her and if necessary correct what their experience tells is a poor decision. The military is a hierarchy and there are boundaries.
They also got the units...partly right. 61th Wing didn’t exist, but 1st Marine Div. and 40th ID exist and are operating. USMC tank battalions wer still active. So yeah, they also got that right.
13:13 he sinned. Should be oo-rah not hoo-rah.
He's a Marine from 2/5, sin for his last words being hoorah and not "Retreat Hell!" Probably never went up 1st SGTs hill.
Too lazy to watch the whole movie so ill look at cinemasins
TacticalFaceplm _ thx
Crash Gaming CG™ for me its one of my favourite movies
sometimes, its better to watch cinema sins than to do the exact same thing while watching at your local theater.
Amen
Another military based movie that stars a pop star? You sure Peter Berg didn't direct this?
17:40 remember switching to your pistol is faster than reloading
Mw2 reference
Medal of honor reference?
@@santi5079 cod4, actually.
Gaz says it to soap in the training center.
Then says soap's fruit killing skills are remarkable
Super Herbie Gaming Soap get back to station 1!
Actually, it's also a real life tip too. Its quicker to bring up your side arm then to hit the mag release, slap new mag in, release the bolt, then reacquire the target. And with a hostile force pushing up, its quicker.
I love how many "military" come out in the comments in war movie sin videos.
Actual military life is far more mundane than the movies make it seem. That's one way to tell a real veteran from a fake. About 95% of military life is waiting around for the other 5% to happen.
@@thatguy22441 and when the 5% happens, you wish you're doing the 95%
I've loved this Movie for the longest time. It's great to see you made a video on it.
Everything wrong with ice age 2,3,4,5
Citarah Ntwatwa there was a 4 and 5?
Doing all four of those would be it's very own movie with how many sins they'd have to cover.
In 50 years or less
he needs to do Shrek sequels and and specials
8:00 He yelled "25 METERS", not "25 minutes". He was indicating the aliens' position, not saying how much time they had.
yelling '25 meters!' in a country who do not use the metric system makes no sense...
@@comradetiedanski6038 The US military uses meters and kilometers frequently since they have to work with multiple foreign nations in NATO or the UN. So it does make sense, and Suzuki was correct.
@@comradetiedanski6038 The military does use meters and kilometers. Dont try talking out your ass ok.
Danny Campbell damn man calm your shit
@@comradetiedanski6038 Imagine thinking you know anything about the Military...
This episode just shows exactly how little CinemaSins knows about the military
Yeah this movie is the closest thing to my actual life in the Marine Corps
Love how all major countries get hit simultaneously. Globe spins once in 24 hours. Either staggered approach of at least 16 hours to reach different countries while approaching from same direction or coordinate various approach angles in an encirclement maneuver.
They weren't hit simultaneously.
@@milescoburn1845 did you watch the movie?
Who else friggin loved this movie
Room temparature Ice bag It’s relatively harmless and entertaining
me
I LOVED IT, it’s coming onto Netflix on the 26th! Get ready! Time to binge watch over and over
WAIT REALLY????!?!??
APRIL??
CinemaSins, where you go when you want to hear a brief summary of a movie.
Ikr, I came here once just so I didn't have to watch that pile of steaming poop called Batman V Superman. I'm glad because it's a lot shorter, and is made fun thanks to Jeremy.
Josh Womble "brief"
Josh Womble
yea 20 minutes is brief.
Zain Chupacabra lol no.....
Idk...this is exactly the way I sound in my mind when I'm saying the same thing...love this...one of my favorite channels for sure....keep em coming please!!!
Just repeating the sentiment that this gentleman hosting this video has no idea how the military works, how tactical resources are deployed alien or human probably makes no difference, he is clueless about military tech, and obviously was struggling to find things to complain about. Most legitimate sins were directing issues, not issues with the realism of the action. And those are acceptable for the sake of drama and cinematography.
dude this is a COMEDY channel made for the sole purpose of being nit picky and mostly sarcastic, but yea please tell me how the military works. Maybe next video they will have it up to your standards of portraying the military.
@@SleepinInsomniac there are layers of comedy in that.
He's right about Nebraskans being smug that the breaches were all along the coastline. I'm Nebraskan, and whenever I see a movie about some kind of invasion, and it happens on the coasts because that's where all the people live, I just kind of giggle to myself that we're in the safest part of the country. It's empty, not many people are here, and nothing important to attack!
Micah Philson Aside from maybe Offutt...
true but honestly, I kind of hate being here for being in a safe place. I don't know about you but I am the kind of person who likes danger and fear
Nothing important..... except for the nation's food supply
Denis, actually, you'd be amazed at how much farmland is in every state. As it is, most states just specialize in a few things, but if something really went down, each state would have plenty of land to raise crops and animals of all kinds for food, and it would take less than a year to be fully self-sufficient in that regard. Expensive and time-consuming and stressful until it's all up and running, but in reality, most of the food produced in the midwest is exported to other countries as it is now.
What about Offutt AFB
A lot less sins if Jeremy knew how the military worked . Lol
tony kidd he’s a liberal tard. He doesnt understand it
@@NoCumBacksiFunny *Libtard
Yeah like when he said the freeways should've been packed, but they're only used by the military in emergency situations.
@Uncle Freddy yeah because if they shot them the libtards will go on a nerd rage
@Uncle Freddy if they had killed them then liberal fucks would have thrown a shit fit
The secret vulnerable spot is basically in the middle of the chest. None of our soldiers thought to shoot center mass before.
Except it wasn't in the middle of the chest. It was to (our) right of the heart. Meaning, on the left side.
"are we getting out too? or are we expendable?"
um... you're combat marines operators sent to retrieve random civpop because... America. "being expendable" is an existential crisis I'm sure you've probably already contemplated and accepted when you signed up.
CinemaSins, you need to sin yourself..... The marine screams "25 meters!....25 meters" not 25 minutes, .... ***Ping****
Literally 🤣
@@gshs21 Did you just reply with literally for no reason what so ever?
@@OriginalPuro don't disturb me. I depressed
When do they say this?
I heard 25 minutes and I just sat through this nightmare of a 'movie'
Holy shit! A movie where Michelle Rodriguez has sleeves!!
Troggie42 I think she also had them in the first Resident Evil.
Now we just need rico Rodriguez. I'm sorry I'll leave
@@miy1925hassun they realised after the first one something wasn't right.
Ignoring majority of the sins, just being a civi, and only knowing military tactics/terminology/mechanics etc. from video games and military movies and documentaries, this movie is awesome. I can personally call this one of the best underrated sci-fi films
Screaming MARINES! is exactly what the manual says lol
Military personnel doesn't get news on military stuff as fast as the media does.
EAGLEFNV LOL right.. CNNhas much better communication technology, I mean they have to report during rain and stuff, whereas military gear relays information in the desert, cities, outer space, gunfights, explosions, ect. nice job being a moron
A fucking enlisted marine that gets 1 thousand bucks per month won't have the same classified access as a SF kick-ass guy
A good exampel is the fact thatt Colonel Ferrando of the 1st recon batalion right before the iraq invasion in 2003 started had to listen to the BBC everyday to hear any news on the situation. The military doesnt inform people of everything thats going on since its a waste of time and can breed ideas among enlisted or NCOs that go against the COs orders or overall commands orders which is a big problem.
Except that the Marine, especially a low level grunt, only gets their information directly from their superiors and if their NCOs and COs are busy getting briefed or they decided the grunts don't need to know yet, they aren't told a damn thing.
Scuttlebutt is oftentimes faster than S2 intel reports....though not as accurate.
He's right. If a reporter or correspondent is on the ground, they have the information much sooner than the grunts who have to wait for intel to filter through from battalion to company to platoon to squad level.
And that's only what S2 feels pertinent to the mission.
The news will be much less filtered and in real-time.
FYI, it's not a squadron. It's a platoon. Army and Marines have platoons. The term squadron is used only for air units such as Air Force, Army air aviation, or Naval Aviation.
*ding* for a sin. :P
Brian Stuart nerd
Also, a veteran. :P
US military anyway, but other countries use squadron but only for mechanized units i believe
Air-wing has Squadrons, bro.
i know i was thinking about land forces, pretty sure the british use squadron for tanks
For some of those sins he doesn’t understand how the military can execute stuff
I like how the spend so much time trying to figure out how to kill it when its just like an organic creature, just shoot it with bullets that seems to work fine.
They wanted to know how to kill it without using all their ammo. Sooner or later, they'll run out.
The majority of Military Personal don't have access to classified information, especially not the Pissant grunts like seen in this movie. They have access only to the information pertinent for their immediate mission.
Just cause we're in the military doesn't mean we all have access to classified info and we're allowed to put the news on
Back when this was posted, a YT user who was part of the military (?) took time to correct all of CinemaSins misunderstandings or lack of knowledge regarding the reality of the US marines : I remember points about night vision, about watching the news given that the guys don't have the same info the commandement has, like you're saying, but there were so many other things explained. It was really well done, respective and informative and really interesting for viewers, to have a better understanding the movie. But..... I can't find it anymore, I have a suspicion it was actually deleted? If that's a case, that's a real loss.
Agreed! I was part of the Naval Hospital Corps (the guys who are combat medics for the Marines), and I really would have liked to watch that. I like wanting CinemaSins, but every time he does a war movie, especially one that depicts pretty accurate military operations, you realize how little he knows wtf he is talking about.
I think you missed the point
@@Chris-nj4yn you can't take it too seriously
it took me a year to get a security clearance and I still watch the news to figure out what the hell is going on.
I can appreciate the fact that Cinema Sins is constant. I expect 1 sin for logos and I expect every movie involving space to have a comment about HBO. I was not disappointed.
This movie was really entertaining and fun I loved it
As for the pulling the SSG back in, that is more than likely for this situation. He has much more experience with this specific unit than a new SSG so this is more than realistic.
If this drastic of a situation came about and someone was on leave, there is no way in heck they would pull them back fast enough unless they were right down the road. They would definitely find a temporary replacement.
An SSG is normally a squad leader, so knowing he was promoted to the position of PSG (normally a SFC) actually is important. Otherwise it would be a sin for an SSG being a PSG.
The marksmen, they may be a part of the platoon but based on the number moving out this is not a full platoon movement. Also, it is important for the SSG to know what his subordinates and employ them in accordance with their capabilities. If he needs an overwatch, these would be the people he would send to do that. So I would say it is not the fact that the information is useless, but rather the sin is that the LT is telling the SSG this information. Also, this is based on the level of marksmanship in the platoon, so no, someone else would not become the first and second best marksmen. Not to restate what I said before, but the reason this discussion was not led with the first and second marksmen is that they know who they are, but the LT or SSG may no know them.
Overseas things can happen that lead to people being killed. As was later explained in the movie, the SSG was in a situation where either way he went he was done for. All the reason it was probably okay for this SSG to be on the mission.
The reason they sent the Marines in rather than just helicopters is because helicopters do not do well without cover, especially with as much fire as these guys were taking. Also, helicopters take more space than a city street to land so the Marines are going in to extract the civilians to a safer landing zone.
To me it seems like bomb drop was in quotes because it was a time event, which in the military also tend to be given code names, or are just given a name as in this case. Because of this, it is no longer A bomb drop, but rather THE bomb drop.
Not going to bash the dog part too much, but it seems like it was an attempt to humanize the Marines and make a connection with them.
Accuracy during a situation such as the combat seen here causes accuracy to decrease severely. One can go from 38/40 range quals to 12/40 without a problem in this situation. Also, when one is lying on their back firing up, accuracy tends to once again decrease.
The combat scene also shows the amount of communication, movement, firing, and confusion in a combat situation. I actually see it to be an attempt to more accurately represent combat.
One of the few guys we were introduced to that we don't remember is now missing. He was one of the top marksmen, but that information wasn't important.
At least a few are gone after the ambush, but part of any soldier's motto is to always place the mission first. Also, those big fancy assault packs on their back are not just for decoration. There does tend to be medical supplies and ammo in there. Also, when we get into a position of cover, we like to take those assault packs off. They are heavy and often have supplies we need in them, like extra ammo.
Smoke for signalling a helicopter is a by the books practice. Also the pilots have the coordinates of the LZ and the color of the smoke notifies the pilot of the threat level of the LZ. Not to mention the added concealment benefits while they maneuver the wounded to be picked up.
The Marine introducing himself to the civilians did not know if it was a threat so he made noise as a surprise (harder to think right except "oh $#^&") and the use of the light was to blind anything in that area. The better sin would be "How did he know to point his rifle down when we saw these aliens were definitely taller."
We can assume a chain of command because the one is moving around checking on subordinates and seems to have less armament than the others (like most REMFs). Also, based on the unity of control and span of control, it is highly realistic that there is some form of a chain of command.
The alien doesn't need to be half-dead to get to it's heart. There is a reason we have rifles and other firearms.
Aiming right of the heart is not that hard to do. A few center mass shots will easily do enough to allow for a stationary target long enough to get someone calmer to place rounds to the right of where the heart would be. This is also the reason that soldiers tend to fire in bursts at close range. The likelihood of hitting something vital drastically increases. Also, the protection will not last to a 5.56x45mm NATO. While it is a smaller round, those things still pack a punch and would easily pierce the armor the Marines are wearing.
The alien could have only been shot at most 30 times and based on a 30% accuracy that even the most experienced shooters will have in that type of situation, that means likely only 10 rounds found their mark.
You could explode the aliens to death if you had enough explosives for that. M203 rounds are much larger and heavier than 5.56x45mm rounds, and not to mention the M203 is much slower to reload. Also, in close combat situations the Marines would be killed by there own rounds and the blast from those rounds.
The alien ship decided not to destroy the bus because it was looking for the radio signals and at that moment the SSG turned the radio on in a different location, causing the ship to redirect its course.
The SSG being more experienced than the LT is absolutely realistic. A good LT sits back and listens to the senior NCO, but when it comes down to it, that LT is still a higher rank and he is still in charge. Also, that SSG has had 20 years of experience but that LT has only just graduated, probably from Annapolis or NROTC, and has no combat experience whatsoever.
Why would an airman not be helping? Any Marine or soldier could tell you that one. The Air Force is not known for their ground combat skills and range time is minimal in basic training compared to the other branches. This TSG was definitely better than the normal airman. Also, only a few were ordered to jump up on that garbage truck and she could have easily gone somewhere else to assist.
Based on the angle, those bullets could have still been hitting where the right side of the heart should be. Also, enough rounds on target will probably kill the things just as it would a human.
You can see a hole go to the right of the center of the heart as the civilian is shooting.
The alien ships have one main center because they need a unity of command, just like we have a unity of command with our troops. Also, that command post was more like a forward operating base than a central command.
The map may have been less accurate from time, but based on how this was going, this is only the night after they left for the city meaning that not much would have changed in that time. The only thing that would have probably changed is the closing of this LZ.
A fully loaded vehicle that either this unit loaded, or that was prepared to enter the combat zone but was shut down because of the direct attack. That vehicle being loaded and ready is more realistic than it sounds.
The Marine laughing in the humvee, yeah that was actually realistic. If you can't find something to lighten the mood you will go crazy in combat. That is the reason there are so many military prank, military fail, and funny military videos on CZcams.
The civilian more than likely knew what the SSG meant by the letter for Martinez's wife. She watched Martinez's sacrifice and probably knows that soldiers tend to write those notes.
The sewer combat scene is really a demonstration of the fog of war and how much confusion there really is when something like that happens.
The command center pokes an antennae above the street so that it can control the drones and have communications with other aliens.
Right of the heart was used, but several rounds were fired and they expected that in the heat of it all one would be paying attention to something other than where the rounds were going.
The rifle is a primary weapon, but the sidearm is just as effective with the range of combat in that situation. Within 25yds I would consider switching to the sidearm rather than finding cover more than reasonable.
The ship will more than likely have a piece sticking above the ground because as previously mentioned. That piece is an antennae to control the communications and the drones.
You missed a sin that I thought was an annoyance as well. Most soldiers and Marines alike will call a forward operating base a fob and even say that rather than continually calling it an F-O-B.
You are pretty spot on with this analysis except for one point; the 5.56 NATO Green Tip penetrators will not easily penetrate the sapi plates that the Marines are wearing. The Level IV plants that they are wearing is designed handle up to 30.06 armour piercing rounds. I personally seen one of these plates after it was hit by three of 5.56 penetrates and it held up fine.
I almost feel like CinemaSins should take a second look at this movie and subtract a few sins. Even the parts with the Marine helping out his buddy pick out flowers and the dog seen are pretty darn accurate of how grunts actually are.
@@noooneofimportance its exactly how us marines actually are. CinemaSins need to stop pretending they know how military, especially marines work.
CjGaming Yeaa ppl don’t Understand that it’s about chain of command not who has more experience
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My man just wrote the 8th harry potter book
Sin #4... not all military personnel have access to classified info... and even for those who do, it might not get distributed in a timely way. The news is a commonly used way to keep up to date.
Yup, even the President watched the news during the First Gulf War. Because they were the best source of combat footage at the time. Not a sin.
The saying "military intelligence isn't" is there for a reason. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought sin 4 was wrong.
Was thinking the same thing.
Battle Los Angeles was more like Battle of the Freeway. Then it ended.
THis movie tried to be to much horror movie with jump scare, instead of showing a Battle of Los Angeles.
This was my favorite Sci-fi movie
Also, don't forget that the whole premise is ludicrous: if you have interstellar travel capability, you don't need to attack a dominant species within a gravity well to acquire resources. There are tons of freely available mineral resources (and water) floating in the solar system, much more easily accessed with less expenditure of existing resources. If you want the planet, for some reason, bombardment from space is the first and easiest first action to take against a civilization that can't be bothered to have any rapid access to planetary orbit, let alone interplanetary travel.
Maybe the aliens were also interested in our hydrocarbon-based resources for energy? Drain those non-renewable resources dry and move on. Those do not exist in the solar system outside Earth. Great point on pulverizing us from orbit first, but then we wouldn't have this cheesy, instantly forgettable ground war action movie, eh?
Spot on Jace, If aliens with interstellar travel turned up their science would be off the scale. One genetically engineered virus and we'd all be believing they're our gods and they could take what they wanted, do what they wanted without bloodshed. And we would be happy to help.
Thank you, human. We will keep this in mind when we invade in 2023.
@@AndreS-xq5nk Oh Great Alien Invaders when you do arrive in 2023, can you make me Grand Pooh-Bah, High Lord Overseer of the humans, with exclusive breeding rights of all the really hot women (plus the power of life and death and all that stuff, etc.). With my insider knowledge, I could be of great benefit to you when it comes to dealing with these primates.
@@gawdsuniverse3282 Actually we already got a guy called Sean on that.
Hey guy, "On Leave" means "on vacation." As in, with the proper prior permission, a service member On Leave could be thousands of miles away, or even in another country. So yes, it's perfectly reasonable for such a person not to be able to show up for work on a few hours' notice.
And as such a random NCO in the battalion might be needed to fill his slot in a platoon. Like Staff Sausage Nantz here
“CinemaSins knows nothing about the military cliche.” Ding!
Your Commentary Is Hilarious!! Love your channel👍
The part where the Marines stop to hang out with the dog is like the most accurate part of the Movie. We love animals, and we always fuck with the wild life.
I loves that he said Nebraskans would be all smug and shit cause I'm a nebraskan
lol nebraskan here too. corn cows and football. just saved you a trip
Vandal Abold is that one of the state's I fly over from Cali to Chicago? jk, I've been there.... its a pretty nice place.
NE boy here too. Football. Fishing. Corn on the cob. Camping. Farm equipment everywhere. Etc.
Sup fam. Born in GI, living in Lincoln now.
Renaissance Manchild born in GI too
Everything wrong with Sausage Party
I had sex with my date in the theater during that movie
Rick K He didn't say no one noticed. They probably had sex and didn't care who saw
Rick K might be his way of saying nobody else was watching that garbage...
Kevin Aigbe Bullshit
+Rick K
Because he's trolling.
I generally don’t agree with most of these sins, but the “Do the ALIENS think CNN is fake news?!” part got me good 😂
Gotta love the middle of his Urah being interrupted for an Oregon measure 109 ad featuring a Navy Seal.
*Cinema Sins Voice* "We lost communications with San Francisco and San Diego. We are the last defense on the west coast" So what happened to Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Camp Rilea, Umatilla Chemical Depot, Camp Murray, The Yakima Training Center, NAWS China Lake, NB Coronado, NAS Lemoore, NPS Monterey, NAS North Island, NB Point Loma, NB Ventura County-NAS Point Mugu, NB Ventura County-NCBC Port Hueneme, NBK Bangor, NBK Bremerton, NAS Whidbey Island, NS Everett, Beale Air Force Base, Edwards Air Force Base, Los Angeles Air Force Base, March Joint Air Reserve Base, Travis Air Force Base, Vandenberg Air Force Base, JBLM McChord Field, and Joint Base Lewis-McChord? So you're telling me the aliens wiped out 25 military installations EXCEPT in/ around Los Angeles when they started landing? Yeah, and I was born F-cking yesterday! di- Hold your horses! This screw up was so bad that i'll add 5 sins for each installation missed! *+125 sins* *multiple dings*
ApatheticCareBear bro no ones reading this
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thank fucking Christ maybe they blew up NTC
You forgot Pendleton, Miramar, Fort Irwin Yermo, Barstow and 29 Palms
Waliq Knolle clearly the OP forgot about the Marines.
I liked this flick, but it may as well have been called "Cliche. The movie". Every military trope, archetype, and situation was here: The aging, super capable sarge, who's seen some shit, the commanding officer who's a jerk at first, then dies heroically, the recruit who just had a baby born back home( he's a dead man), etc.. you knew who was gonna die way before they actually did. Fun, but predictable in the extreme.
I like the sarcasm in these things, but as other have pointed out below, a lot of the things you were 'sinning' were actually spot on.
But keep up the good work. I don't expect perfection, just entertainment.
Hilarous commentary thank you!
3:43 but what man? But what?
This happened in his last video too.
are you joking or serious?
sarcasm
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a review full of sarcasms.
look at the subtitles :P
'but... wat?' Is enough.
where the fuck is the armoured divisions
and the air support
Most of Americas armor is based in Fort Hood, Texas, and will take a bit to get there, look at the timeline of events. Yes the Marines do have armor and you see it throughout the movie. Same issue with the "Air support". Unless we know something is comming weeks in advance at any given time a good portion of our Air Power isn't flyable, or in a better case scenario is NMC, or non mission capable, due to needed maintenance. It can take days of people working their asses off around the clock to get some of these birds ready to go (if you have the parts see current events.) and several hours to get them armed up and ready to fly. That's why days of lead in time is critical.
well the thing is that there was a flippin' APC lying around there wouldn't be just one in that base, unless they were all deployed
Pendleton and 29 palms dont have more than 100 tanks between the two and less jets.
100 tanks is A lot. plus you see a lot more then 1 LAV25 throughout the movie. heck you see an abrams tank in one point on the bridge. and the marines are not heavy on armor as the army armored division. this isn't the old soviet union.
the whole reason they blew up the command thing was because the aliens shit on our air support so they pulled back
Dude! A Parker Lewis reference?!? No effin’ way! So glad I subscribed!
-1 sin every time Jeremy calls a Marine or Airman "soldier"
*0 sins*
Do "Everything wrong with Saving Private Ryan" good luck
rangers didn't land on Omaha. they landed at point du hoc and scaled the cliffs to disable shore gun batteries.
Sam-E G well Saving Private Ryan maybe go down as having the best depiction of Omaha beach after that the movie is made up there was never any mission to find a Private Ryan.
Actually, the 5th Ranger Battalion along with A,B and C companies of the 2nd Ranger Battalion did land on Omaha Beach. Only D,E and F companies of the 2nd Ranger Battalion scaled the cliffs of Point du Hoc.
McLarenHonda the mission depicted in the movie is completely fictional. Go look at history buffs channel.
McLarenHonda hey chill bro i ain't saying it isn't i live it to.
Okay, I haven't watched till the end yet.
If he doesn't make the Tropic Thunder joke about "Lance... The fuck kind of name is Lance?" "Nantz, I said Nantz!", then I will be a sad boy.
Edit: He didn't. I'm a sad boy.
Lmao, I didn't even think of that
"You turned the tide against a alien invasion in 6 minutes and that's sinful as shit" was soooo funny and idk why😭😭😭
Ok, funny mental image:
Aliens come ashore in LA, start shooting. It being LA, the beachgoers pull guns out and start shooting back.
I was going to point out that LA is in California, a communist stazi style nanny state were people mostly aren't allowed to own guns. But then I remembered, super restrictive draconian gun laws only stop the good guys, the law abiding citizens, from having guns, but it also virtually guarantees that EVERY SINGLE CRIMINAL THUG THERE IS will have at least one illegal gun. So yeah I could see that.
Until you realize only 1/4 of these civilians own firearms, all of them owning some percussion or flintlock or a rifle with a limited magazine
@@m1a1abramstank49 Thanks. Now I have a mental image of the civilians forming battle lines like you saw during the Revolutionary war. In their swimsuits.
@@Alamandorious That sounds like R34 material
@@m1a1abramstank49 ...sadly, yes it does lol
I actually enjoyed this movie. I liked the idea that the aliens werent rediculously overpowered and that they had come for water. In my opinion its a really good plot, and I'd love to see a series like this but without the tropes of humans winning everything etc. Almost like how a real war would be.
Love how a majority of the sins related to the military stuff is actually how things are done. Most Junior officers are younger than SNCOs, and most SNCO are more experienced than a Junior Office, the SAW gunner would call 25 meters to inform the distance of the enemy contact, and the LT giving the SSGT a run down of who the expert shooters in the platoon are would be pretty typical debrief of your unit assets to new leadership with the unit.
19:21 that screem in the background lines up perfectly with his mouth😂
"Nantz survives this". Gosh it cracks me up all the time. :D